Thread: Bobasa-Shadi-Hasan

Bobasa was Shadi in disguise and at the same time was Hasan. But, in the manga, Hasan was an avatar of the Pharaoh Aknamkanon's soul, which was changed to being the souls of past Pharaoh's in the anime...but that gets even more confusing when who was underneath the mask changes between the manga and the anime! So, Bobasa = Shadi = Hasan = Aknamkanon = Shadi?! @___@

Wow, thinking about it makes my brain reach Critical...

That really did my head in the first time I read Millennium World. In the end I decided that Hasan was Aknamkanon’s ka (well, maybe that’s not the proper term), possessed/invoked/awakened by Shadi/Bobasa, who was himself no regular mortal, what with all the freaky stuff he did in either manga or anime or both. I think of him as the ultimate keeper of the Millennium items, the one who’s job is to see the entire thing through. He did sort of start the whole Millenium item shebang and he did appear at the end of the manga before the items were buried forever and the whole thing was over.

I could probably think of something else, if I were to go through the entire Millennium World again, but I really don’t need that sort of a headache at the moment…

Probably he was something like Mahado to Pharaoh Aknamkanon ?
But i don't know how much consistent that idea is whit the Creation of the Millennium Items.

So Bobasa was Shadi in a fatman suit? Why would Shadi go to that length to disguise himself and pretend to be sent by himself? So Aknamkanon sealed his soul to create Hasan, so Hasan is bascially Aknamkanon, but doesn't have his personality. That's fair enough.

This is why the character guide should have waited until the end of the series. And why when we get to these chapters the Reprint Volumes need retcons. This is easily the most confusing thing ever. Is there even an answer? Or did Takahashi just sort of...forget?

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

Wow, thinking about it makes my brain reach Critical...

As anime-Bobasa said, "Sa is for sayonara" - Sayonara my brain...

Well, among other things, maybe because he thought Yugi and co. would kick the crap out of him for what he put them through in the early manga. So he disguised himself as the next worse thing . A fat and ugly next worse thing. He's like the Quato of Yugioh.

Takahashi-sensei really wasn't feeling merciful when he wrote MW, was he?

Probably he was something like Mahado to Pharaoh Aknamkanon ?

Only without the purple hair? Lulz. No, I think this was something different than the way others had their kas sealed. But IIRC, Hansan was sealed in a stone, too, so yeah...

Ooh, here's some more puzzles for those who want to pound their grey matter with a croquet mallet:

- If Bobasa was a Non-Player Character from the present day, how could he turn into Hasan who had been created by Aknamkhanen in the Egyptian timeline? Shouldn't Hasan already be there?
- If Bobasa turns into Hasan, how come we already saw Hasan before, greeting Yugi in the cave after the fight with Diabound at night?
- If Shadi is the three-thousand year-old ghost of Aknamkhanen's soul, why should Bakura think that he killed him in the present day?

Originally Posted by Dr_Watson

Takahashi-sensei really wasn't feeling merciful when he wrote MW, was he?

Maybe that's why he killed off half the population of Egypt throughout the arc, to avoid having to explain.

Yeah, the anime Memory Arc may have been a bumbling mess but I admit that I like it much better when Shadi, Bobasa and Hasan are three different entities.

I'm pretty sure Shadi is in no way Aknamkanon's soul. If he was, you'd think he'd recognize his own son back when he played that game of darkness with him. Of course, that's provided that Spirit!Aknamkanon's memory hasn't been wiped in a similar manner Atemu's was. Shadi also didn't know what the power of the Millennium Puzzle was, which I'm sure Aknamkanon did. Not to mention that he looks nothing like the late pharaoh, and in the world of Yugioh reincarnations/spirits of people tend to look exactly the same as they did in their previous lives.

But remember that panel when he first met Yugi? He was looking at the mummy of some pharaoh, and Yugi asked him why he was crying. He said that his tears are a manifestation of that Pharaoh's grief at being denied eternal sleep. So maybe Shadi is some sort of a proxy for the spirits of the Egyptian pharaohs. Who knows? I bet even Takahashi didn't back then.

Originally Posted by Dr_Watson

He said that his tears are a manifestation of that Pharaoh's grief at being denied eternal sleep. So maybe Shadi is some sort of a proxy for the spirits of the Egyptian pharaohs. Who knows? I bet even Takahashi didn't back then.

I think that's the problem. Back then before Takahashi got the main plot going, characters could have throwaway lines which could be confusing later on. In those chapters Shadi says he's never told anyone his name before. Canon? I don't know.

And the manga itself says that Hasan was a spirit sealed into the Millennium Stone by Aknamkhanen's soul. So he's not actually Aknamkhanen, just a person created by him.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

I think that's the problem. Back then before Takahashi got the main plot going, characters could have throwaway lines which could be confusing later on. In those chapters Shadi says he's never told anyone his name before. Canon? I don't know.

Yep. Loose ends. And hows about this: if Shadi was part of the Tombkeeper's tribe, wouldn't he have seen the memory tablet at some point? And then wouldn't he be able to recognize the young Pharaoh with the ridiculous hairdo when he bumped into him?

And the manga itself says that Hasan was a spirit sealed into the Millennium Stone by Aknamkhanen's soul. So he's not actually Aknamkhanen, just a person created by him.

True, but like you said, Hasan already appeared to Yugi before the whole Bobasa-to-Hasan thing in tha manga, so it doesn't preclude the possibilty that Hasan was indeed a separate entity later possesed (it's a game, maybe 'played' is a better word?) by Bobasa/Shadi. And just how Shadi's present self ended up in the game? Beats me.

A Shadi event which I'd forgotten about was the section where he meets Pegasus. It was pretty helpful, actually.

When Pegasus meets Shadi he thinks "It was a boy...or was it?" and always refers to Shadi as a boy. Shadi is clearly not a boy when he meets Yugi at the museum and plays the Games of Darkness with him (The chapter is even called 'The Man from Egypt'). This would suggest that he is, well, growing up. Which 3000 year-old ghosts don't do. Dark Bakura also spends quality time looking at the portrait of Shadi in Pegasus's castle.

In Pegasus's flashback the Millennium Stone is in Kul Elna, in a similar-but-different underground hall to the one where it was in the Memory Arc. But seeing as how the Stone is seen in several places (the Ceremonial Duel cavern, for example), one can guess that it is movable.

Yeah, well, to Pegasus, everyone is a boy (lol Shadi-boy XD) . But the fact that Pegasus didn't know his name is kind of in line with what Shadi said to Yugi (about never telling anyone his name). It all depends on what you want to take as canon, and what you want to discard as early screw-ups. Shadi also refered to himself as a disciple of Anubis, btw. Which is becoming, considering he was the keeper of the Millennium Scales.

The cavern being similar but not the same could also be a case of something that needs retconning. Even as late as Battle City, some of the Egypt stuff apparently wasn't fully thought out/designed (from Seto and Atem's clothes to bigger things).

In the end, I think that many questions can be solved by Shadi's two pages in the Gospel of Truth character guide. Since the guide covers all of the series up 'till the end of the Alcatraz finals, it's unlikely that Shadi's character profile says "Lol, ignore this line, it's non-canon". Takahashi's description would have to cleanly tie up all Shadi's events in the series.

So, until it's translated, the Truth is in the Gospel. Except for the whole Hasan thing, which isn't in the guide because it came later.

I could always look in said book to see, but I don't remember much about Shadi being said.

EDIT: Yeah, nothing really of importance that we already know. "Shadi is mysterious indeed," "He has two Millennium Items," "Shocked reaction out of Bakura," "Tested Yugi to check his soul," "Told Malik his father's death was the Pharaoh's soul's fault," "Gave Pegasus the Millennium Eye."

They also list his appearance as "Volume 17"...which is odd. (Maybe that was fixed in later versions.)