I got the first volume a little while ago, and was relatively pleased with how it turned out, but I do agree with you about the hexagrams and Machiners. The Machiners bit I don't mind that much, but why change the hexagrams now? They've never bothered to before.

However, in an amusing coincidence, by removing one of the two triangles, Viz ended up making Spellbinding Circle and DMG's broach look a lot like the symbol for Jyashinism, as used by Hidan in Naruto. Two unrelated works, yes, but I find the concept of Dark Magician Girl following the preachings of "Jyashin-sama" to be pretty funny. You'd think Viz would have caught that, seeing as they also own the license to Naruto.

In the Spanish version of the Yugioh manga, the Spellbinding Circle is also edited

Great review, Ryusaki! The proper text boxes do sound good. Sad to see the Devil Gods' flavor text being replaced, though.

And LOL, "Forbidden Bread". That is plain awesome, indeed.

Wow! I'm working for Intel right now, and I had no idea that the Yu-gi-oh R characters were named after our processor codewords. That's incredible.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

It's also disappointing to see the Wicked Gods' characterful flavour text replaced by the boring TCG effects.

N..No, this does not compute. The Devil's Dreadroot had the greatest flavor text in history.

Why are you so awesome Ryusaki? I haven't bought R yet, but I might purchase it in the near future.

Seems weird that Viz would edit Hexagrams to Triangles...especially in a 13+ Manga. (Considering that Duelist was untouched in that respect) But yay, no terrible text boxes of doom!

But what's this I hear about awesome flavor text? Would someone be so kind as to post it, or tell me where I can find it? :O

Originally Posted by Siliva

But what's this I hear about awesome flavor text? Would someone be so kind as to post it, or tell me where I can find it? :O

The Devils had flavor text in plain, cryptic English in the original Japanese version(Just like the Egyptian Gods IIRC). Apparently Viz replaced these with the flavor texts Konami gave the cards in RL. I'm ticked "ＦＥＡＲ　ＤＯＭＩＮＡＴＥＳ　ＴＨＥ　ＷＨＯＬＥ　ＷＯＲＬＤ．．．" became "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or..."

they didn't change the hexagrams, the original manga was like that (I own the japanese set)
they are triangles, choice of Akira Itou

Originally Posted by pokeslob

they didn't change the hexagrams, the original manga was like that (I own the japanese set)
they are triangles, choice of Akira Itou

Umm, no, I own the Japanese volume and it has hexagrams.

Nice review, Ryusaki.
Good to hear that's there's none of those huge boxes (I never really minded them before actually. lol)

Originally Posted by pokeslob

they didn't change the hexagrams, the original manga was like that (I own the japanese set)
they are triangles, choice of Akira Itou

Unless your version was edited for some reason... yeah...

Excellent review, sir. As lame as editing hexagrams sounds, I'm glad to hear that's as far as they went with visual edits. I agree about the logo, it does look kind of bad, especially with completely different and visually incompatible typography, but eh. As long as they continue trying to do Yugioh justice (at least noticeably more so than that other company does), I guess a few slip ups can be forgiven. I'll see about ordering my copy next time I'm employing amazon's services.

I'm reading the first volume right now.

I think I like the translation for this series a little better. It seems a little more literal than Viz's work on the other Yu-Gi-Oh! manga. While they still use the TGC card names, the card guide in the back now has the original kanji or katakana for the japanese card names along with the romaji pronounciations. Also, Yugi actually says things like "Reverse card, open!" Whereas before they would have always translated it as "I activate my face-down card!" every time.

I gotta say, Spellbinding Circle looks pretty stupid with just a triangle on the card. Especially since it's supposed to be called Curse of the HEXAGRAM (Rokubousei no Jubaku), where "Rokubousei" is "Six-Pointed Star" or hexagram.

Out of interest just how accurate is the UK translation of Yugioh and R?

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Umm, no, I own the Japanese volume and it has hexagrams.

deff not a hexagram bro..
regardless of wether this an edit or not, it was done by the japanese not the Viz

Yeah, because that one's not Spellbinding Circle / Hexagram Curse. That right there is Spell of Illusion. I happen to have the volume in Japanese as well, and I don't recall Spellbinding Circle getting the edit. Maybe they changed it in later releases for the volume you got, but for me and Ryusaki, at least, the hexagrams remain.

Originally Posted by Eliteslayer

Yeah, because that one's not Spellbinding Circle / Hexagram Curse. That right there is Spell of Illusion. I happen to have the volume in Japanese as well, and I don't recall Spellbinding Circle getting the edit. Maybe they changed it in later releases for the volume you got, but for me and Ryusaki, at least, the hexagrams remain.

thats what I'm sayin, you guys got the old versions, the new versions in japan are edited. same with old yugioh manga, they changed Kakurano's hexagrams n stuff in the Bunkouban

Interesting. And by interesting I mean disturbing. Obviously if the later releases were already edited then Viz is not at fault. I haven't got any Bunko volumes that have Hexagram Curse in it to check, but on her cover BMG has a pentagram instead of a hexagram. However, that doesn't prove much since she alternates between hexagram and pentagram, so I'll have to take your word for it.

I'm sure there have been hexagrams in 5D's though.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Interesting. And by interesting I mean disturbing. Obviously if the later releases were already edited then Viz is not at fault. I haven't got any Bunko volumes that have Hexagram Curse in it to check, but on her cover BMG has a pentagram instead of a hexagram. However, that doesn't prove much since she alternates between hexagram and pentagram, so I'll have to take your word for it.

I'm sure there have been hexagrams in 5D's though.

if you have the first check out kurokano's head band...
Pre-Editing Viz manga:


Bunkouban:



ON A SIDE NOTE:
I was pissed when I got the Bunkouban, I was hoping for no edits at all!!

Well, I'll sum it up: lame. One question, however; in your volume of R, Pokeslob, was the hexagram broach on Black Magician Girl's chest erased completely, or was it turned into a pentagram broach? Because in my English R it's erased completely, but the Bunkoban cover uses a pentagram, and she has a pentagram in the Anniversary Pack art. I'm pretty sure they're not editing pentagrams too.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Well, I'll sum it up: lame. One question, however; in your volume of R, Pokeslob, was the hexagram broach on Black Magician Girl's chest erased completely, or was it turned into a pentagram broach? Because in my English R it's erased completely, but the Bunkoban cover uses a pentagram, and she has a pentagram in the Anniversary Pack art. I'm pretty sure they're not editing pentagrams too.

I'll check, ...
nope its a triangle, but so is my english R



in other words, Viz did nothing, they simply used the newest version...

In that case, Viz's volume is 98% good. Well done, guys. And shame on the moron who decided that after over a decade of using hexagrams everywhere in the manga it's no longer possible.

And in this rare case. The Japanese Moron.

So we can blame VIZ only for any bogus translations and English Logo for R or what ever that issue was.

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

And in this rare case. The Japanese Moron.

So we can blame VIZ only for any bogus translations and English Logo for R or what ever that issue was.

the english logo SUCKS!!!
I made a more legit looking one on Macromedia Fireworks

Yes that issue X).
We all agree it can be done better. But others are OK with it as along as they can read that manga.

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

Yes that issue X).
We all agree it can be done better. But others are OK with it as along as they can read that manga.

lol I keep having to tell myself,
its whats inside that counts XD
Can't judge a manga a logo XD

Well, I've started reading the second volume now and I just wanted to mention a few things of note. As usual, Jonouchi's monster Psycho Shocker is mostly called "Jinzo" but I noticed one time where they referred to it as "Cyber Shocker." Misread it perhaps...?

The next one totally cracked me up. There's one page where they replaced Anzu's name with some amalgamation of her real name and her 4kids! dub name, calling her "Anzu Gardner." The reason this was so funny was because they got her correct name, Anzu Mazaki, just few panels before ON THE SAME PAGE!!!" It wasn't just one time either. I think I saw at least one other instance of "Anzu Gardner." It's especially weird because unlike Viz's release of the original manga, the character guide in the front doesn't discuss the characters' corresponding 4kids! names. So how are n00b readers suppose to understand the sudden name change (not that it makes sense anyway).

Now this is the first time for me reading YGO: R, and I gotta say the story is making less and less sense. Yako Tenma is basically as insane as Pegasus was. He thinks he can somehow use all of Kaiba's hi-tech mumbo jumbo to bring someone important to him back to life. When are people going to realize that KaibaCorp is not in the business of communicating with the dead?! This is like the equivalent of someone violently taking over Microsoft because they think they can somehow use the XBOXLive servers to transport someone's dead soul into a new body. Can there really be that many crazy people in the world? Well, I guess that's what made the original Yu-Gi-Oh! so interesting was that there's always another lunatic who wants to hurt Yugi or his friends for some weird reason. But I was hoping at least that Yako would have more original motivations and goals.

Originally Posted by russ869

As usual, Jonouchi's monster Psycho Shocker is mostly called "Jinzo" but I noticed one time where they referred to it as "Cyber Shocker."

There's one page where they replaced Anzu's name with some amalgamation of her real name and her 4kids! dub name, calling her "Anzu Gardner."

QUALITY

Originally Posted by russ869

Now this is the first time for me reading YGO: R, and I gotta say the story is making less and less sense. Yako Tenma is basically as insane as Pegasus was. He thinks he can somehow use all of Kaiba's hi-tech mumbo jumbo to bring someone important to him back to life. When are people going to realize that KaibaCorp is not in the business of communicating with the dead?! This is like the equivalent of someone violently taking over Microsoft because they think they can somehow use the XBOXLive servers to transport someone's dead soul into a new body. Can there really be that many crazy people in the world? Well, I guess that's what made the original Yu-Gi-Oh! so interesting was that there's always another lunatic who wants to hurt Yugi or his friends for some weird reason. But I was hoping at least that Yako would have more original motivations and goals.

Tenma's plan may be insane, but it is expanded upon later in the series. And I'm pretty sure nobody else has ever tried to use Kaiba Corp to communicate with the dead. He's got originality on his side.

I remember Duelist had this weird thing, especially early on, where they'd call a card by its dub name (which didn't bother me to be honest), but then used its original name as a subtitle. They even did it with Slifer once (although I guess it *would* technically work there since "Slifer, the God of Osiris" technically works) and I found this to be really annoying.

Honestly, if you're going to change names (and like I said, I didn't mind them changing the card names to their dub names), at least go for consistency.

Actually, I didn't mind when they used the real card names as a sort of supplement to the TCG ones. Stuff like referring to Celtic Guardian as an 'elf swordsman' in later speech bubbles. I thought that was a pretty creative way of getting round the fact that for some reason Yugioh isn't allowed to actually just use the right damn names. But 'Cyber Shocker' is simply incorrect.

Originally Posted by russ869

Well, I've started reading the second volume now and I just wanted to mention a few things of note. As usual, Jonouchi's monster Psycho Shocker is mostly called "Jinzo" but I noticed one time where they referred to it as "Cyber Shocker." Misread it perhaps...?

The next one totally cracked me up. There's one page where they replaced Anzu's name with some amalgamation of her real name and her 4kids! dub name, calling her "Anzu Gardner." The reason this was so funny was because they got her correct name, Anzu Mazaki, just few panels before ON THE SAME PAGE!!!" It wasn't just one time either. I think I saw at least one other instance of "Anzu Gardner." It's especially weird because unlike Viz's release of the original manga, the character guide in the front doesn't discuss the characters' corresponding 4kids! names. So how are n00b readers suppose to understand the sudden name change (not that it makes sense anyway).

Now this is the first time for me reading YGO: R, and I gotta say the story is making less and less sense. Yako Tenma is basically as insane as Pegasus was. He thinks he can somehow use all of Kaiba's hi-tech mumbo jumbo to bring someone important to him back to life. When are people going to realize that KaibaCorp is not in the business of communicating with the dead?! This is like the equivalent of someone violently taking over Microsoft because they think they can somehow use the XBOXLive servers to transport someone's dead soul into a new body. Can there really be that many crazy people in the world? Well, I guess that's what made the original Yu-Gi-Oh! so interesting was that there's always another lunatic who wants to hurt Yugi or his friends for some weird reason. But I was hoping at least that Yako would have more original motivations and goals.

Anzu Gardner? Oh dear.

It's made funnier by the fact when later on someone says that Yakou is just like Pegasus. Although that line is from the fan translation days, so I'm not sure how much truth there is to it. And when you think about it, they are pretty much the same in general.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Tenma's plan may be insane, but it is expanded upon later in the series. And I'm pretty sure nobody else has ever tried to use Kaiba Corp to communicate with the dead. He's got originality on his side.

While Pegasus wanted to bring Cyndia's card back to life, we don't know what his exact plans were with it. It could have meant merely reanimating her in appearance with the help of Solid Vision, or go as far as trying to channel her through the card. (Or that might be a little too absurd... XD)

Originally Posted by Arynis

While Pegasus wanted to bring Cyndia's card back to life, we don't know what his exact plans were with it. It could have meant merely reanimating her in appearance with the help of Solid Vision, or go as far as trying to channel her through the card. (Or that might be a little too absurd... XD)

I was only ever under the impression that Pegasus wanted to use Solid Vision to create a realistic image of her.

He wanted to use Kaiba's new Solid Vision technology (which was the basis for the Duel Disk) to create a realistic image of Cyndia.

Also, this isn't the first time Viz has done that. Look at their "Duelist" releases where they can't seem to decide between Pegasus J. Crawford or Maximillion Pegasus.

I guess I thought too much into it. Thanks guys. XD; I watched Evangelion a bit too much, I suppose...

Hmm, volume two is out by this point, isn't it? (Although I don't remember its release date.) Planning to do a review of that as well, Ryusaki?

Yeah, I'll review it. I enjoy doing the reviews. It'll probably be out a tad later over here though.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

And I'm pretty sure nobody else has ever tried to use Kaiba Corp to communicate with the dead. He's got originality on his side.

No, it's not original. That was exactly Pegasus's plan. He had to get Yuugi defeated so that he could make his little backdoor deal with the KC shareholders because he thought that he could somehow use all Kaiba's pretty machinery to see his dead lover again. Now, I know he never actually explained his plan like this or anything, but it's either that or he was just such a lunatic that wanted to take over Kaiba's company for no reason.

I guess the difference is Pegasus wasn't trying to put Cyndia's soul in Grandpa Suguroku's body. Even he's not that mad. But like I said, not original.

Originally Posted by russ869

No, it's not original. That was exactly Pegasus's plan. He had to get Yuugi defeated so that he could make his little backdoor deal with the KC shareholders because he thought that he could somehow use all Kaiba's pretty machinery to see his dead lover again. Now, I know he never actually explained his plan like this or anything, but it's either that or he was just such a lunatic that wanted to take over Kaiba's company for no reason.

I guess the difference is Pegasus wasn't trying to put Cyndia's soul in Grandpa Suguroku's body. Even he's not that mad. But like I said, not original.

I'd say creating a Solid Vision hologram of someone like Pegasus wanted to do is different to actually trying to revive them from the dead, like Tenma wants to do. Pegasus's plan involved no magic; Tenma requires the Wicked Gods.

Originally Posted by russ869

No, it's not original. That was exactly Pegasus's plan. He had to get Yuugi defeated so that he could make his little backdoor deal with the KC shareholders because he thought that he could somehow use all Kaiba's pretty machinery to see his dead lover again. Now, I know he never actually explained his plan like this or anything, but it's either that or he was just such a lunatic that wanted to take over Kaiba's company for no reason.

I guess the difference is Pegasus wasn't trying to put Cyndia's soul in Grandpa Suguroku's body. Even he's not that mad. But like I said, not original.

Gah, and I thought Pegasus' soul in Anzu's body would be bad. That imagery definitely tops it. D8 *runs for brain bleach*

Crocketts told Yugi about Pegasus' plan. To Crocketts, the success of Pegasus' plan was important (he was worried about Pegasus' plan being ruined when he was held as Kaiba's hostage) and he was one of the people closest to Pegasus, so we can assume he trusted him. Therefore, we can assume his plan would've gone just as Crocketts said.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

I'd say creating a Solid Vision hologram of someone like Pegasus wanted to do is different to actually trying to revive them from the dead, like Tenma wants to do. Pegasus's plan involved no magic; Tenma requires the Wicked Gods.

Good point. Pegasus is a bit like Kaiba - just as how Kaiba wanted to recreate the illusions Yugi gave him with the Penalty Game, Pegasus wanted to recreate the illusion he saw of Cyndia.

We can add a new a new inconsistency to Viz's big pile of goofy mistakes.

"Anzu Guardner".

Just a panal or two after "Anzu Mazaki".

Originally Posted by Looking

We can add a new a new inconsistency to Viz's big pile of goofy mistakes.

"Anzu Guardner".

Just a panal or two after "Anzu Mazaki".

I've noticed that at the end of Volume 1 Dreadroot's attack was written as "Fierce Knockdown", but at the beginning of Volume 2 Viz changed it to "Fear's Knockdown" (at least in my copy). Also in the fight between Yami and Mrs. Maico Yami refers to a card as "Illusion Curse" but on the card itself it says "Spellbinding Illusion". And did anyone notice Queen's Knight has King's Knight's TCG effect on the card?

Originally Posted by jesheslove

I've noticed that at the end of Volume 1 Dreadroot's attack was written as "Fierce Knockdown", but at the beginning of Volume 2 Viz changed it to "Fear's Knockdown" (at least in my copy). Also in the fight between Yami and Mrs. Maico Yami refers to a card as "Illusion Curse" but on the card itself it says "Spellbinding Illusion". And did anyone notice Queen's Knight has King's Knight's TCG effect on the card?

lol as far as the names of cards go, I've always kinda liked the funny mis translations in the manga, and video games. how one card could have several english names, its kinda funny lol

I haven't got Vol. 2 yet; I don't believe it's out over here until January. US Amazon has posted the blurb for the final volume, though:

Originally Posted by Volume 5

When the follower of an old enemy returns to take revenge, Yugi Mutou must duel to save a friend's life. But can he overcome the power of the three "Jashin," the terrifying Evil God Cards? Final Volume BONUS! Card inside! (First Pring Limited Quantity Available)

It's down to the 11th hour as Yugi and Jonouchi fight to save their friend Anzu's soul! Bandit Keith, the ruthless American duelist, challenges Jonouchi to a rematch using his own God Card, the "Wicked Eraser"! Meanwhile, Yugi faces Yako Tenma, Pegasus's favorite pupil, in a battle which pits god against god! The shocking 296-page climax!

I wonder why they make it seem like this is the last chapter or something. (I will still never get used to "Jashin." That's like using "Kami" for the God cards--why not just say God, you know? And did they even use the word "Sangenshin" as a collective term for the Gods once? )

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

I wonder why they make it seem like this is the last chapter or something.(I will still never get used to "Jashin." That's like using "Kami" for the God cards--why not just say God, you know? And did they even use the word "Sangenshin" as a collective term for the Gods once? )

Well, Volume 5 is the last volume.

It is strange that they use Evil God and Jashin, when they might as well use Wicked God, since 'Wicked' is in all their TCG names.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

I wonder why they make it seem like this is the last chapter or something. (I will still never get used to "Jashin." That's like using "Kami" for the God cards--why not just say God, you know? And did they even use the word "Sangenshin" as a collective term for the Gods once? )

It's strange. Viz Media don't read the translation before the realeasing ? It seems they translate each volume individually. Maybe it isn't the final version of the summary that Amazon had used ?

Originally Posted by Allana

It's strange. Viz Media don't read the translation before the realeasing ? It seems they translate each volume individually. Maybe it isn't the final version of the summary that Amazon had used ?

yes one of the main problems Viz has had was the fact that they change editors randomly (within a series) so the flow o the dialogue changes ever so slightly...

Originally Posted by pokeslob

yes one of the main problems Viz has had was the fact that they change editors randomly (within a series) so the flow o the dialogue changes ever so slightly...

I understand better. Thanks !

Well, Volume 5 is the last volume.

Lol, I thought it was a blurb for Volume 2. My mistake.

I'm Brazilian and here the hexagrams were replaced in #31 (Original Series). These are some images, the first from #19 and the other from #31

PS: In Brazil the originals onomatopeias are used unlike the American version.