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    Default Season Three is Red?

    It just occured to me, for no reason in particular (and you can feel free to lock/delete this if there's already a post like this here or I'm annoying anyone with the inanity of all this), but GX is sticking very very much to alchemy as it goes on its merry way. Season one with Amnael and the Seven Stars was obvious; it's a little more subtle in season two since not everyone knows the paralells between alchemy and the tarot, and leaning much more towards the spiritual/psychological side of the art/science/cult. And that's kind of where this something else I noticed comes in.

    Nigredo, Albedo, and Rubedo. Not the Xenosaga characters. We saw Amnael use cards in representation of them. . .but looking at what THEY represent, as phases, I'm seeing a trend in the two seasons we've had.
    First comes Nigredo--blackness, trial, putrefecation; the 'cooking' and breaking down, the basis of the work or formula. Compare to the first season, which lays a base, boils things down, drags in the deep dark angsty cultists, and is most certainly a trial and tribulation. Out of it comes new life (or, a new school year). Psychologically nigredo is a process of redirecting oneself and seeking new knowledge. There are a lot of paralells, I think, and some fairly blatant references so I could go on for hours if I had gotten more sleep yesterday. But.
    Next comes Albedo--whiteness, purification, duality and unity, the rising of light from the depths of darkness (and what that light means is up for grabs, as albedo is associated with Lucifer as well as Mercury; Lucifer being associated with rough, tainted, or impure metals and the general dregs and dross of 'man-ness'). Transitions, and revelations--as nigredo is 'lead', Albedo is 'silver'. We're not done with this season of course, but it doesn't take half a glance sideways to see that a lot more than just the white jackets are fitting the bill. You should look it up sometime! I'm interested to see just how many more flat-out references come up.
    The third and thus far season-less phase, Rubedo (if you ignore the 'peacock's tail' which may be before or after albedo), is red. This is cementing the permanence of the 'pure essence'--philosopher's stone type stuff--and is 'gold'. It's the diamond body, corpus incorruptibile, complete unification and just Where This Stuff is Headed; to make a tarot reference it is the Fool coming to the end of his journey. The revelation that one is what one has always been but never knew one was. Theoretically, when rubedo has manifested a man is master over both the physical and spiritual worlds.

    Point of all this disjointed semi-coherent alchemic geek-babble. . .with the way things are going, and the amount of sleep I haven't been getting, I just see a trend and I wonder if I'm the only one. Could there be a Force of Great Evil waving Judai's beloved red as their banner sometime in Duel Academy's future? And is there some symbolism after all to the boy who turned down leaving red at the beginning of the series being our apparent roadbound Fool?

    Thoughts? Opinions? Theories? Threats to my life for not shutting up? Corrections? I'm way too shot to have not gotten something wrong. Please share and care.

    Also, speaking of not-subtle hints, Manjoume will wear a red dorm jacket at last. XD Black->White->Red. ZOMGHESALCHEMYRIFFIC. ::twitch:: That's it. I'm going to go get some sleep.
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    That's a very interesting theory, and I think that this "Force of Great Evil" is probably the man who manipulated Saiou(and I think Hell Kaiser and Kagemaru), and a Chaos user ( in season one the enemy is darkness, in season 2 the enemy is light: Light + Darkness= chaos). Another theory that I have is that in season 3 the origin of the sangenmas will be explained.

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    Yet more `proof` (or at least speculation) regarding the excellent writing of this show. Good work.

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    I thought alchemy transformation process needed at least 4 steps (Black, White, Red and Yellow), up to 76 if I remember well. Maybe I'm wrong, but if not, would this mean there would have a 4th season...? Judai in Ra Yellow, or Judai in Pro League?

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    Hmmm..........one loophole, though.

    You're saying that the order is Black, White, Red, Yellow, correct?

    Amnael used the cards in this order: Black, White, Yellow, Red.

    Something just doesn't add up here............

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    Quote Originally Posted by greydragon
    I thought alchemy transformation process needed at least 4 steps (Black, White, Red and Yellow), up to 76 if I remember well. Maybe I'm wrong, but if not, would this mean there would have a 4th season...? Judai in Ra Yellow, or Judai in Pro League?
    There is another step in there, but as I recall there's a little bit of contention as to whether it comes before or after albedo. . .so, I suppose there would have to be and that makes my theory of red coming up next (since we seem to be going nigredo-albedo instead of nigredo-whateveritscalledidon'tremember-albedo) a little shaky. Not all texts list a fourth step, however, so I guess it all depends how long they want the series to be. =B

    Quote Originally Posted by Testaros25
    Hmmm..........one loophole, though.

    You're saying that the order is Black, White, Red, Yellow, correct?

    Amnael used the cards in this order: Black, White, Yellow, Red.

    Something just doesn't add up here............
    The yellow phase is the colored phase or 'peacock's tail' I mentioned down there, and it can come either before or after albedo. Not all alchemic texts list it, so I wasn't sure it would be as much of a shoe-in for a season--which is why I only mentioned it in passing down there. ^^; Also, because I was tired. But yeah, it's there. I'm just not paying attention to what I type. XD
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    If Chaos shows, I'll lose all interest in GX. Unless all Elemental Heroes start being competitive, but blah, no possible.

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    I'm so damn lost! can some one please simplify this for me (I did read the first post but I'm still lost)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hell no Majin InFeRnODeMoN
    If Chaos shows, I'll lose all interest in GX. Unless all Elemental Heroes start being competitive, but blah, no possible.
    It `showed` in Judai's duel versus Kagurazaka.

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    ....

    I think you're digging a little too deep into this. GX doesn't seem very well written to be...particularly the later episodes...reverting back to the convoluted, episodic formula of the first season. There's a lot of loose ends that need to be tied, and only what, fifteen episodes to do it in? If the GX writers were really that clever, they would certainly learn how to make a coherent storyline that flows well together. It can still be episodic, but there's a difference between the choppy "showcase a specific kind of deck!" episodic they're doing right now, and an episodic show that still manages to tie together well.

    But still, that is an interesting analysis, even though I know nothing about alchemy and I don't particularly take any stock in it (I'm one of those "empirical evidence!" people...) It does make sense, though I really don't think it's intentional. But I do NOT want to see Manjoume in red. I was hoping for him back in Obelisk Blue soon...sigh.
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    I like this theory. It acutally plays into something I have been waiting for in GX for a long time: The Osiris Revolt.

    They have set up for some time that the Reds are the bottom of the barrel. And now, with the Ras and the Obelisks falling into white, it sets it up for the Osiris Reds to rise up and take down the other dorms, with Judai caught in the middle.

    I can see 1 Osiris duelist, mad over the fall of the other sutdents and how they all got slaps on the wrists (And you know they will! They won't be punished for being power hungry little duelists that fall for Saiou. No, it will be all hugs and puppies and christmas) rising up and organizing his fellow Red blazers, and then leading a new revolt against the school and the other dorms. An almost French Revolution, which the commoners rising up against the royality.

    I know it will never happen. But I seriously want the Osiris' to finally realize they are treated like crap and revolt. Have the other two dorms on the run, have them fearing the Osiris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolas Payne
    It `showed` in Judai's duel versus Kagurazaka.
    I meant Chaos Deck, not a Chaos monster in a wacky deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Poet
    Also, speaking of not-subtle hints, Manjoume will wear a red dorm jacket at last. XD Black->White->Red.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bickabubbles

    But I do NOT want to see Manjoume in red. I was hoping for him back in Obelisk Blue soon...sigh.
    I would love to see Manjyome in an Osiris red jacket. I doubt Manjyome can get away with breaking the school dress code forever. I also have a gut feeling that Manjyome will not be going into Obelisk Blue anytime soon.

    If Samejima makes Manjyome wear the Osiris red jacket, I bet that Manjyome will complain like there is no tomorow. I would love to see that, I bet it would be so funny.

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    personally I want , even though it won't happen in a million years, Judai to turn evil and rally all these underground duellists and fellow osiris's to his side and march upon the academy and then the world only to be stopped by his friends.Although like I said it won't happen.
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