Thread: Duelist Stats

Yeah, winning percentage doesn't really mean anything unless it factors in who the opponent is, and how often they duel. Likewise losing percentage as well. Sherry and Bakura being that low makes no sense.

Yugi lost 5 times? That's weird, what were the five duels he lost? I only remember Pegasus, Kaiba, Rafael, and an implication against Jounouchi since he got his Red-Eyes back after Battle City.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Yugi lost 5 times? That's weird, what were the five duels he lost? I only remember Pegasus, Kaiba, Rafael, and an implication against Jounouchi since he got his Red-Eyes back after Battle City.

Rebecca and...no idea.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Yeah, winning percentage doesn't really mean anything unless it factors in who the opponent is, and how often they duel. Likewise losing percentage as well. Sherry and Bakura being that low makes no sense.

Yugi lost 5 times? That's weird, what were the five duels he lost? I only remember Pegasus, Kaiba, Rafael, and an implication against Jounouchi since he got his Red-Eyes back after Battle City.

Peggy, Kaiba, Yami/Atem, Rafeal, and Rebecca.

Originally Posted by Starry

Peggy, Kaiba, Yami/Atem, Rafeal, and Rebecca.

Ahhhh. See that's a bit confusing cause you're also including the loss of the ceremonial duel against Atem...when you're also including the wins and stuff of Yugi and Atem as one. So he'd never be able to have a perfect record since he has to lose against "himself."

And yeah, Rebecca. Totally forgot about her. Oops.

And this is only taking into account dueling. Atem also suffered a loss against Thief King Bakura. Likewise Bakura would have way more wins if we included the old school Egyptian duels of death with ka that were in Millennium World. Those weren't card games, but they still were games that involved the actual spirits of Duel Monsters.

Thanks for making this thread, Starry~

Originally Posted by Starry

Top Duelists based on winning percentage:
1. Anzu (100%)

I know the stats are stacked, but that's still hilarious.


Hmm, so Sherry is the only other main to win 0 duels…? I smell a new crossover crack ship~ (Supposedlybadasscharacterswhoneverwin Shipping?)


I'm…. also honestly shocked that Mai had 14 duels! That's really not too bad!

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Ahhhh. See that's a bit confusing cause you're also including the loss of the ceremonial duel against Atem...when you're also including the wins and stuff of Yugi and Atem as one. So he'd never be able to have a perfect record since he has to lose against "himself."

And yeah, Rebecca. Totally forgot about her. Oops.

And this is only taking into account dueling. Atem also suffered a loss against Thief King Bakura. Likewise Bakura would have way more wins if we included the old school Egyptian duels of death with ka that were in Millennium World. Those weren't card games, but they still were games that involved the actual spirits of Duel Monsters.

Haha, well should I edit that out to make it more accurate?

Ahhh yes. I wasn't including ancient dueling shenanigans, as its harder to check manually then through lists.

Well Millennium World would significantly change Bakura's stats for one, and adding those wins would probably change Yugi/Atem's win stats as well.

They don't list them but I guess the episode/character bios would tell who won or lost. Thief King Bakura basically beat almost every Priest after all.

Wow... Didn't even realize Anzu dueled three times on screen... I had heard something about her having a duel early in the series, and there was the one against the big 5 penguin guy... Sad she's got the best record, with so few duels...
Looking at people like Fubuki and Edo having such bad win/lose records... Makes me a bit sad, but goes to show how few times they were actually allowed to duel.
And WOW Judai really stole the show there in GX... Didn't realize they were short selling everyone else THAT badly... I mean I love E-Heroes, but that's a bit too much... Especially since after season two it was mostly Neos junk... Which I hate. <.<
And pfft, Yusei only lost in some flash backs and such if I recall correctly... Didn't realize Jack got that much air time though. Good for him?

Also, if I'm calculating this right, the total duels (among the main characters) for the three series is:
DM: 124
GX: 134
5Ds: 153

That's interesting. And pretty weird for 5D's even considering that a majority of 5D's duels are doubled, due to them being between two characters on the list. (And with a few characters who had their own dueling episodes not on the list too!) Especially, since it has at least 40 episodes less than the other series! Of course, DM's number would increase too if we added the Dia Diank duels from the Ancient Egyptian arc.

But I suppose those stats aren't very good for anything, considering how many numbers stack on to each other. I wonder what the total number of unique duels per series was? (I'm thinking GX is probably going to pull ahead again, with it's one-shot tendency.)

I still say the stats aren't even fully representative of DM though, considering Millennium World is mostly unaccounted for, just because they played out the original games of darkness with stone tablets instead of cards.

I mean, YGO wasn't JUST about the card games. Some of the main conflicts of the Games of Darkness were played out in the original form of the game. And that win/loss record would count too, seeing as how...that's how the characters dueled as well.

Well for the MW duels. Even if they were not played with card games.
I guess the manga would be more accurate there. But since its the manga it does not count for these stats ?

Well the manga doesn't need to be used. Just follow the anime and include the Millennium World characters and the actual Dia that were done by the characters as well. Seeing as how that would affect Yami Yugi's record, and Yami Bakura's record considerably.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Ahhhh. See that's a bit confusing cause you're also including the loss of the ceremonial duel against Atem...when you're also including the wins and stuff of Yugi and Atem as one. So he'd never be able to have a perfect record since he has to lose against "himself."

Ah yes, by these standards Yugi beat himself, which as we all know isn't as fun as getting beat by someone else. *flees*

Gosh it must take a lot of work (or memory) to put this sort of list together...

Though, I'd say, like Makoeyes, it matters WHO you're dueling. Manjoume is at least (theoretically) supposed to be close to Judai in skill (or closer than most of the other characters), but he ended up dueling mainly only the very strong duelists (Saiou, Judai more than once, etc...), so he ended up with a majority-loss record. Anzu, meanwhile, only dueled an angsty beauty queen, a creepy penguin and someone I can't remember, so the 100% is no surprise.

EDIT: Wait a sec... the third person Anzu dueled was Jouu, wasn't it. Of course, that was back when his deck had no spell or trap cards...

I'd say Anzu isn't a bad duelist (no doubt some of Yugi's skill could have rubbed off on her, and she did beat Mai, who supposedly goes around winning tournaments), and she has that big powerful pink dragon of hers... forgot the name.

EDIT 2: I'm sure Asuka must have lost more than 3 times. There is Judai, then Amnael right(?), then the loss that got her under Saiou's control, then losing to Jun to pull her out of Saiou's control. So that's at least 4 losses.

Originally Posted by Altair

Gosh it must take a lot of work (or memory) to put this sort of list together...

Though, I'd say, like Makoeyes, it matters WHO you're dueling. Manjoume is at least (theoretically) supposed to be close to Judai in skill (or closer than most of the other characters), but he ended up dueling mainly only the very strong duelists (Saiou, Judai more than once, etc...), so he ended up with a majority-loss record. Anzu, meanwhile, only dueled an angsty beauty queen, a creepy penguin and someone I can't remember, so the 100% is no surprise.

EDIT: Wait a sec... the third person Anzu dueled was Jouu, wasn't it. Of course, that was back when his deck had no spell or trap cards...

I'd say Anzu isn't a bad duelist (no doubt some of Yugi's skill could have rubbed off on her, and she did beat Mai, who supposedly goes around winning tournaments), and she has that big powerful pink dragon of hers... forgot the name.

I'm not sure if Starry is counting "off-screen" losses or not. If so, it's really five losses total, since she also lost to Trueman.

The loss to Amneal wasn't off-screen as much as the Trueman loss was. For all we know, Trueman absorbed a lot of his victims intot he World of Darkness without a duel. I mean, I have a hard time thinking that Trueman could beat Johan, who's probably a better duelist than Judai is considering his performances in their tag duels.

Anzu's perfect record isn't really anything new. It's been a joke in the fandom since before GX actually. Though it is nostalgiac tosee it again.

Originally Posted by Ragna

The loss to Amneal wasn't off-screen as much as the Trueman loss was. For all we know, Trueman absorbed a lot of his victims intot he World of Darkness without a duel. I mean, I have a hard time thinking that Trueman could beat Johan, who's probably a better duelist than Judai is considering his performances in their tag duels.

True. Some of Asuka's card were seen flying through the air just before Trueman absorbed her though, so it implies there was a Duel, at the least. And he didn't beat Johan. Rainbow Neos destroyed all the Truemans when Judai and Johan Dueled Fujiwara. Johan sort of randomly disappears with Fujiwara afterwards when Judai leaves. The Darkness appears.

Originally Posted by cheesedude

True. Some of Asuka's card were seen flying through the air just before Trueman absorbed her though, so it implies there was a Duel, at the least. And he didn't beat Johan. Rainbow Neos destroyed all the Truemans when Judai and Johan Dueled Fujiwara. Johan sort of randomly disappears with Fujiwara afterwards when Judai leaves. The Darkness appears.

From what I recall near the end of the 4th season of GX Trueman was abusing that one kids Horus lock down deck to beat all of the heroes 'off-screen'. He only had a duel or two that even had part of the duel shown. I think one was Kenzan, most of the others were just seen throwing their cards up in the air as they lost. As for Johan, he was probably absorbed by Darkness after Fujiwara beat him during the double duel. So when Darkness showed up, since Johan had technically lost he was just sent to the 'darkness' like everyone else.
Curious were these stats taken from YGO Wiki, some of the magazines/books written with duel stats, or just from observation while watching episodes?

Originally Posted by blue knight wm

From what I recall near the end of the 4th season of GX Trueman was abusing that one kids Horus lock down deck to beat all of the heroes 'off-screen'. He only had a duel or two that even had part of the duel shown. I think one was Kenzan, most of the others were just seen throwing their cards up in the air as they lost. As for Johan, he was probably absorbed by Darkness after Fujiwara beat him during the double duel. So when Darkness showed up, since Johan had technically lost he was just sent to the 'darkness' like everyone else.
Curious were these stats taken from YGO Wiki, some of the magazines/books written with duel stats, or just from observation while watching episodes?

Sorano, yes. He beat Sho (off-screen) and Kenzan as Sorano, along with most of the rest of the school. In episode 173, he resumed his true form again, so he presumably used his archetype Deck against Manjoume and Asuka.

Johan fell unconcious after he lost, but wasn't absorbed. He revives after Judai defeats Fujiwara, then randomly disappears, so Darkness probably just absorbed him without a Duel.

Originally Posted by cheesedude

Sorano, yes. He beat Sho (off-screen) and Kenzan as Sorano, along with most of the rest of the school. In episode 173, he resumed his true form again, so he presumably used his archetype Deck against Manjoume and Asuka.
Johan fell unconcious after he lost, but wasn't absorbed. He revives after Judai defeats Fujiwara, then randomly disappears, so Darkness probably just absorbed him without a Duel.

I would have loved to have seen some of Trueman's duels, just like I'd love to have seen Amnael's other duels against the very same two duelists.
I can some what assume Darkness didn't absorb Johan as much as he just didn't 'invite' him into whatever zone he dueled Judai into. (Almost said Yusei, must punish himself XD)

Just realized this: ...Edo's percentages add up to 110%. I think it was supposed to be 44% and 56%.

I think it would be better having Yugi and Atem separated. Also, taking special circumstances in account, such as, Kaiba's suicide threat. Does it really count as a win, skill-wise? Things like that.

Anzu is the Top Duelist? With 100% no less?

brb loling forever

I commend you for taking on something like this though. Must have taken a lot of time.

Originally Posted by Patorikku

I think it would be better having Yugi and Atem separated. Also, taking special circumstances in account, such as, Kaiba's suicide threat. Does it really count as a win, skill-wise? Things like that.

I really do think those two should have a separate win/lose record. Especially since many of Yugi (little yugi's) duels alone were actually against atem... At least two of them at least. <.<
Yeah, there should be an * for duels that were lost by cheap means. Like cheating, shadow duel related fainting, cheap threats, accidents in the midst of the duel and such.

Cheap or not, if the duel had a clear outcome and life points went down to zero, they count. Likewise if the outcome's obvious but a random variable interrupted, it should count as well.

Kaiba didn't cheat. He was desperate, and wanted to do whatever it took to save Mokuba.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Cheap or not, if the duel had a clear outcome and life points went down to zero, they count. Likewise if the outcome's obvious but a random variable interrupted, it should count as well.

Kaiba didn't cheat. He was desperate, and wanted to do whatever it took to save Mokuba.

Are you talking about duels where character X should have won, but something interrupted them moments before victory? Joey fainting against Marik, Kaito leaving to check on Haruto, Yusei crashing? Cause those should have been wins for the person whom got 'distracted'.
Call it not cheating, but he abused Yugi's moral charity to force him to loose.

Originally Posted by blue knight wm

Are you talking about duels where character X should have won, but something interrupted them moments before victory? Joey fainting against Marik, Kaito leaving to check on Haruto, Yusei crashing? Cause those should have been wins for the person whom got 'distracted'.
Call it not cheating, but he abused Yugi's moral charity to force him to loose.

That's strategy!

Originally Posted by blue knight wm

Are you talking about duels where character X should have won, but something interrupted them moments before victory? Joey fainting against Marik, Kaito leaving to check on Haruto, Yusei crashing? Cause those should have been wins for the person whom got 'distracted'.
Call it not cheating, but he abused Yugi's moral charity to force him to loose.

Jou literally lost consciousness. He lost the Battle City tournament.

Kaito against Yuma wasn't a tournament though. And the duel was literally inconclusive. But its pretty obvious Yuma and Astral would've lost had he declared an attack that turn.

And yeah, Kaiba did, but that was also a tournament. Kaiba was willing to do whatever it took to get inside the castle and duel Pegasus for his brother's soul. So he had to do what he had to do.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Cheap or not, if the duel had a clear outcome and life points went down to zero, they count. Likewise if the outcome's obvious but a random variable interrupted, it should count as well.

Kaiba didn't cheat. He was desperate, and wanted to do whatever it took to save Mokuba.

Are you talking also about that duel of Dark Bakura VS. Kaiba ?

I don't even remember that duel, it was an anime filler one. It seemed genuinely inconclusive didn't it?

awesome job compiling this ^ ^

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

Are you taking also about that duel of Dark Bakura VS. Kaiba ?

I don't remember what interrupted that one?

The sun rising, and Dark Bakura getting what he wanted.

I just checked again, and Dark Bakura literally forfeited the duel. He just chose to leave cause he already absorbed the Blue-Eyes "Burst Stream of Destruction" attack with his Diabound.

There was no need for him to continue dueling him.

He should have just bought the card BSoD instead XD.

Yeah. That's what I meant. It was a pretty ridiculous excuse for not beating Kaiba and taking his soul or something and instead surrendering. Even if he did not probably said the word "Surrender" from what I remember.
But that would brake so much the canon and main idea of Kaiba's character and all that... Well call it filler and be done with it.

Funny thing is that with such bad filler we usually get some really long lasting memes.

And here we probably got the biggest and first one of DM.

Bad filler = good meme worth material almost every time

Part of the problem with doing a breakdown like this for the manga is that...well, I guess the root problem is that people dislike reading, because out of the manga's 387 chapters, maybe a third of them have articles on the Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki, and there aren't tables up for each character's manga duels.

Here's what I found starting with the initial four games of Duel Monsters seen in the first seven manga volumes, up through Kaiba's match against his computer:

	Duels	Wins	Losses	Win Ratio
Yugi	13	11	2	84%
Kaiba	6	3	3	50%
Jonouchi	7	5	2	71%
Anzu	1	1	0	100%
Ryuzaki	3	0	3	0%
Haga	2	1	1	50%
Pegasus	3	2	1	66%
Mai	5	2	3	40%
Mako	1	0	1	0%
Mokuba	1	0	1	0%
Player Killer	2	1	1	50%
Sugoroku	1	0	1	0%
Meikyuu Bros	2	0	2	0%

Anzu is still a vicious blood goddess of dueling.

Goddamn, Anzu is still at the top with 100%.

Someone get a leash on her.