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    Is anyone else getting tired of the protagonist always having some one-of-a-kind card as an ace? I mean, it can be cool, and Yusei and Stardust were really cool... for a while... But now I'm personally getting tired of it.

    For one thing, it eliminates the possibilities of things like Yugi vs. Pandora, where an enemy uses a deck with other copies of the main character's ace and they duel to prove just why the main character is the one who deserves to be the "master" of that card.

    There's also the point that it makes the hero look like less of an "underdog" when they're going against other duelists because they have a weapon that nobody else can have. Like when Sorano dueled against Judai with a deck built to lock him down, but Judai used his one-of-a-kind Neos cards and contact fused to get around Horus' effect. There's also things like th eTeam Taiyo duel, where they were a group of friends who struggled through hardship and made it into the quater finals of a tournament against all odds... only to be defeated by one of a kind dragons with high ATK power. It betrays the entire theme of the series.

    Lastly, it makes for really stupid moments, like when Yusei was undercover and dueling Clark. He doesn't think Clark knows who he is, so he does the only logical thing and summons the card that only he has and that he's won matches in major tournaments in. Good going genius.



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    I agree. I was quite annoyed at the Taiyo instance myself.

    As for Sorano, he should have planned for Neos. Being such a huge Judai fan, he must have known Judai could do that. It's like he was channeling Season 1 Misawa - "I'll just counter Polymerization and win by default".

    That aside, the fact that only Judai has Neos (or that Neos even exists, actually) is annoying.

    ZEXAL has taken this to its logical extreme. Yuma doesn't have just one one-of-a-kind monster, he has seven or so and will probably have ninety-ninety at the series end (granted, only Hope is his ace).

    Yugi vs Pandora was a very entertaining. Even with different E-Heroes, Judai was Edo was similar. That's missed after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesedude View Post
    That aside, the fact that only Judai has Neos (or that Neos even exists, actually) is annoying.

    ZEXAL has taken this to its logical extreme. Yuma doesn't have just one one-of-a-kind monster, he has seven or so and will probably have ninety-ninety at the series end (granted, only Hope is his ace).
    In Neos' case, Judai did design him, so that makes it a bit less annoying in my eyes. As for Yuma, he'll have 100 if he collects them all, since there are 100 Numbers, not 99.
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    It has always bugged me how characters in general in YGO have 'one of a kind' cards. Not just the heroes, but the villains as well... My problem isn't so much it leaves the chance of someone dueling the hero with a similar deck less likely... And more the fact that why is it so many cards are 'one of a kind'? I can see it happening for the Cards that appear out of thin air... But the Signer Dragons didn't appear out of thin air, at least the early versions...

    Thinking about things like the E-Heroes it's a bother that only Edo and Koyo seemed to use E-Heroes other then Judai. Not only that but only Edo and Judai used anything HERO, as no one else used D-Heroes, M-Heroes, Evil-Heroes, or V-Heroes.

    And it's amazing how there weren't more people running around trying to make Homage decks... Though it can be assumed if only 3 BEWDs, 1 real DM, 1 Copy of each signer dragon, and such existed... No one could make an homage deck period... Cause they couldn't get the cards... Which, is lame... It's a card game, why aren't there more copies of these cards? I'm ranting again... >.<;;

    Though I wonder could one consider the fact that all of the main antagonists in Zexal use Numbers monsters be considered into this? Seeing as numbers only appear out of thin air, people don't actually build decks for them, they apparently make themselves 'fit' in the deck of whomever they possess... Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd2000 View Post
    In Neos' case, Judai did design him, so that makes it a bit less annoying in my eyes. As for Yuma, he'll have 100 if he collects them all, since there are 100 Numbers, not 99.
    I actually think him having the only copy sort of clashes with his character. He seems like the type that would WANT the card to mass-produced so that others could enjoy it too. Actually, I suppose it was never stated that it was one-of-a-kind. Pegasus could have made copies after meeting Judai. Though that's speculation.
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    It is weird that the Signer Dragons (I include Power Tool in this case) were not copied, given how good most of their effects are, but you know, fate, destiny and all that lovely stuff.

    I liked that they actually gave a reason that's not attributed to fate or destiny why the Egyptian Gods remained one-of-a-kind. I think they should have done that with the Signer Dragons.
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    Sans the God cards, Blue-Eyes White Dragon was the rarest card, so every card in the DM era has at least 5 copies of it in existance.

    The problem with Judai having one of a kind cards was that he was supposed to be the protaginist that players could relate to. He loved playing the game and he enjoyed seeing all kinds of cards. He was normal. When the anime started giving him one of a kinds and super powers, that was lost entirely.

    It's even more hilarious that his deck was supposed to be a deck that both beginners and veterans could play with and win, and still have fun. Pfft.
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