Thread: Stupid Anime Details: Duelist Kingdom

Originally Posted by CatAlin

@Dr Watson: That emoticon you used in that post was SCARY! o.o

For shame, it's all kinds of cute .

But why did Mai get red hair?

Is that a reference to the teacher (Chuno) in episode .. 11? Was that it?

Same reason Kaiba got neon green hair in the series, I guess.

Oh, and lol @ retcon in ep 41. Mokuba says that the locket was the key to Kaiba Corporation's storehouse. But in ep 7 (or whenever it was, 8, maybe,) we see a physical card being the key. And it still begs the question "Why didn't Pegasus just read his mind?"

@ Horoko's spoiler tags: I wonder what hidden treasures it will contain... Actually, after spending many pages pointing out the stupidities both large and small of anime Duelist Kingdom, I'm not sure I want to know. XD

Random filler and Battle City ahoy? You go rest now, Horoko. And prepare for that Stupid Anime Details: Battle City which I foreshadowed. The time will soon come, and the details will be stupid.

Well, I'm at the last episode of DDM in the anime and all I can say is---Wow, the manga was 10x better.

How low can Jonouchi go down on the totem pole? Keith judo-masters his ass, Otogi beats him in Duel Monsters and he's forced to wear a dog suit and make barking sounds? Where is Jono's GAR? Anyone? Please? I'd like to know.

Oh, and boo @ Otogi's dad being replaced by douche with sweater wrapped around neck.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

Well, I'm at the last episode of DDM in the anime and all I can say is---Wow, the manga was 10x better.

How low can Jonouchi go down on the totem pole? Keith judo-masters his ass, Otogi beats him in Duel Monsters and he's forced to wear a dog suit and make barking sounds? Where is Jono's GAR? Anyone? Please? I'd like to know.

Oh, and boo @ Otogi's dad being replaced by douche with sweater wrapped around neck.

Indeed. I mentioned NASs "butcher DDM arc" plan way back.

The hell with Jono's GAR, lets put im' in a dog costume for laughs =P They totally took Dark Bakura out(which was one of the coolest parts of the manga) and just said "da hell with Otogi's physco dad and Sugoroku's backstory". IMO, they totally decreased the significance/epicness of the entire arc by just giving away the Save Yugi in the Fire conclusion to Mind Slave-Kieth and his warehouse. =|

The ending to episode 49 is so hokey it's not even funny.

"OMG! I2 just sent me an offer to draw up the papers for DDM's official release! How convenient that this would happen at the exact same time I my ass getting handed to me was broadcast all over the Internet! Geez, wish all defeats ended up this lucrative. Then, maybe Kaiba Corporation wouldn't have had its reputation go down the tubes!"

Spoiler: By the way...

I've finished all of DK. Herk. *dies*

Somebody may have already covered this, but what was Pegasus' "joke" when he duel Yugi via the vhs?

I noticed they skipped right past the "possibly cheating with technology" and when right to magic powers in the anime version.

Pegasus used Jar Djinn (Tsubo Majin/Dragon Charmer...or whaetver.) And when Pegasus destroyed Silver Fang he goes onto a "This is omou-tsubo in Japanernese, aren't it? LOLOLO" I forget the exact dialogue, check my script for ep 2 for it.

I felt like being nitpicky about some of the details, so here're some more observations. (I kind of blame NGE, because after watching THAT, I want to find (a) meaning(s) in EVERY detail. GAH! :C )

Well, I was rewatching some episodes again, and it just made me wonder - how on EARTH did Anzu and co. manage to climb up on the Sanctuary tower's walls?

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I know they used the grappling hook on the roof to climb up to the window, but what about the walls? And even if they climbed up the walls, there's that edge thing they're walking on later (the gray one), and I don't know how they could manage that. They're either expert climbers, or... I just don't know.

And Pegasus' diary fails to make any sense, as in... when did he write it? He didn't expect to lose (I think), so my guess is that he made it up on the spot. As for when Bakura comes in, why doesn't he just read his mind and run away? (Yeah, I'm aware he was supposed to get his Eye taken and all, but...) Unless this was justified in Episode 28, where I heard him saying something about not being able to read Bakura's mind. (Well, the subtitles, that is. He said something like "Mie nai!", which -from what I've found via Internet dictionaries- means "Not shown!" or something... I have very little Japanese knowledge, so I have no idea.)

And something I've never understood - how does Shadi know about Pegasus' heartache? As far as I know, you can only see someone's thoughts (Room of the Soul?) only if you use the Key on someone's head, and go inside. Shadi simply gave back Pegasus' hat to him and told him that he won't ease his pain here. So, how? In the manga, he might have done it while Pegs was observing the Millennium Ring thief (a bit that wasn't in the anime - a pity though, I thought his concern about that stranger added some to his character). Either way, we don't get to see it happening. Or, he had visited him before and checked his mind then...Because the "I know your feelings right here right now" ability is more like the Eye...Unless I missed something.

Yeah, I know... fillers and writers. I should simply give up and quote Yugi - "This is a ********ing bizarre episode!"

I was wondering, though, if I should attempt the impossible and try to analyze the Mind Screwy What Do You Mean It's Not Symbolic I Am Not Making This Up scenes in these fillers...Blargh. D8

Originally Posted by Arynis

Well, I was rewatching some episodes again, and it just made me wonder - how on EARTH did Anzu and co. manage to climb up on the Sanctuary tower's walls?

They borrowed the power of Kaiba's Briefcase of Death. ^_^

Unless this was justified in Episode 28, where I heard him saying something about not being able to read Bakura's mind. (Well, the subtitles, that is. He said something like "Mie nai!", which -from what I've found via Internet dictionaries- means "Not shown!" or something... I have very little Japanese knowledge, so I have no idea.)

As far as I know "mienai" means "invisible" or "can't be seen".

To make matters worse in the first one, they are sort of bellying across that narrow edge, and then two seconds later they are seen standing on it. So, not only can they climb vertical ascending walls with little to no effort, evade tons of security detail, and rope climb, the said tower also morphs in steepness around its roof on the spot. Go go animu.

And, well, he had to have made the diary sometime in advance, because it was made addressed "To the individual who defeats me and becomes the new Duelist King." But, since that whole episode was an excuse to have Pegasus get injured before he was supposed to, tell his backstory without him telling it, and effectively kill an episode's worth of time all at the same time...Yeah...

That last one can't really be attributed to the anime all that much, because that was in the manga--it was just better executed there than in the anime. Shadi didn't just blurt it out his fourth line in, in the manga. It was sort of said in the middle of a more lengthy discussion...sort of like a really specific form of reading someone's signals ("That boy had read my mind!" is what Pegasus said, which can be taken literally or figuratively.) Or maybe others had come seeking for their lost ones and they went through the same trial of the Millennium Items (and died because of it.) Who knows? It's sort of those off-color "I'm Mystical So This All Makes Sense Somehow" moments characters like Shadi has.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I felt like being nitpicky about some of the details, so here're some more observations. [FONT=Tahoma](I kind of blame NGE, because after watching THAT, I want to find (a) meaning(s) in EVERY detail. GAH! :C )

Funny you should say that; if anything, NGE kind of made me stop doing such things XD.

As for when Bakura comes in, why doesn't he just read his mind and run away?

Maybe the Millennium Items just don't work that well against other item possessors. Like how Shadi nearly lost his mind when he was probing Yugi. Plus, there's the whole after-effect-of-losing-a-game-of-darkness thing. It's apparaently exhausting, as even dub!Bakura noted.

As far as I know "mienai" means "invisible" or "can't be seen".

Ah, I see. Thanks JuJube!

To make matters worse in the first one, they are sort of bellying across that narrow edge, and then two seconds later they are seen standing on it. So, not only can they climb vertical ascending walls with little to no effort, evade tons of security detail, and rope climb, the said tower also morphs in steepness around its roof on the spot. Go go animu.

Haha, good one!

Maybe the Millennium Items just don't work that well against other item possessors. Like how Shadi nearly lost his mind when he was probing Yugi. Plus, there's the whole after-effect-of-losing-a-game-of-darkness thing. It's apparaently exhausting, as even dub!Bakura noted.

Hmm. Makes sense.

And, thank you for the explanations, Horoko and Dr_Watson!

Funny you should say that; if anything, NGE kind of made me stop doing such things XD.

Really? Haha! xD

(Alright, alright, back on topic now! )

I've got other things to add/ask.

I noticed that when Pegasus gets grabbed by Shadi's henchmen (The men in the black clothes), the canvas he was carrying magically disappears. I know, it's not much of an importance, but it made me wonder where the heck did it go. He was being ambushed, then a moment after, the canvas is gone! Pegasus must've mastered Hammerspace, or something, after watching so many cartoons/reading manga... Did the guards take it away? It happens both in the anime and manga versions.

Speaking of Hammerspace, the Cyndia painting magically gains a chair and a rose bouquet in Episode 40, whereas in Ep. 28 and before, she's shown with a blue background behind her, without flowers.

Other thing that awfully bugged me was the whole "vision" scene. How did that happen? As far as I know, the Eye doesn't have the ability of viewing "other worlds" or whatsoever. Unless it has to do something with the "it makes wishes come true" part. For some reason I believe that Shadi is behind it, because it's kind of suspicious that Pegasus sees the exact scene which Shadi told him about. (Unless Pegasus believed he'd see a scene exactly like that) I've read that the Key can "also force images, scenes, or visions into the minds of others"...Which would explain this, but...

I'm further confused over by the fact that Cyndia's expression appears to be sad in the manga, instead of happy, or anything. Not that it matters much...I thought she was reacting on her own, or something, but that's too far fetched. Jossed.

Once again, I have no idea. :/

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4...shadow2fa8.png <--- What the heck is with that perspective, anyway? I never got it...
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When Pegasus screams in pain as the Eye was shoved into his socket, the hat falls off him, behind his back. Where it is after the scene? Somewhere next to him. Also, for some reason, the light/door appears above/behind him, where in the manga, it appears in front of him. Not to mention Cyndia is surrounded by some purple light...Although it appears around her briefly when she's vanishing.

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And in the end, we get even more symbolism. Rose petals falling from above! (In a closed room, I might add...)

I find it odd that Yugi is seen holding the Cyndia card before the flashback, and when that ends, the card is nowhere to be seen. I guess he put it back into the diary. Also, when Pegasus is looking at the Soul Prison Cards, there are 6 books on the desk, and there're 7 after Yugi and co. are done reading. (Not including diary)

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...Where'd that chair come from, anyway? More Hammerspace? Apparently it was present when Bakura appeared. Oops.

I think I pretty much covered everything I wanted to say. Phew!
Either way... "Screw the rules! We have Hammerspace!"

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

- Kaiba's secret lair with talking computer. I tell you, the manga's version of events where Blue Eyes stops attacking because Kaiba just came out of his coma was a million times better than that melting Blue Eyes virus rubbish.

- Addition of Yugi versus Jonouchi duel. The manga offered a much cleverer explanation as to why they agreed not to duel, it was really just an excuse for the anime to show off cards.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

In the manga, Kaiba walked right up to Pegasus' castle, looked Crockets straight in the eye and busted that f***er in the face with his duralumin case and then proceeded to kick even more ass until he got to speak with Pegasus.

Oh. My. God.
I need to get the manga.


(Uhm... suggestions are welcome?)

Other thing that awfully bugged me was the whole "vision" scene. How did that happen? As far as I know, the Eye doesn't have the ability of viewing "other worlds" or whatsoever. Unless it has to do something with the "it makes wishes come true" part. For some reason I believe that Shadi is behind it, because it's kind of suspicious that Pegasus sees the exact scene which Shadi told him about. (Unless Pegasus believed he'd see a scene exactly like that) I've read that the Key can "also force images, scenes, or visions into the minds of others"...Which would explain this, but...

The wish is how it happened. Aknadin did the same thing when he embedded the eye into his socket. (He wished to make his son King.) And we are told that the Millennium Items have a dark will of their own (in the manga at least,) so they are able to act semi-dependently from their user. (Like how the Tauk showed Yugi that one last vision after losing its powers or how the Millennium Ring acts as a detector for other Millennium Items.) *Shrugs*

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

The wish is how it happened. Aknadin did the same thing when he embedded the eye into his socket. (He wished to make his son King.) And we are told that the Millennium Items have a dark will of their own (in the manga at least,) so they are able to act semi-dependently from their user. (Like how the Tauk showed Yugi that one last vision after losing its powers or how the Millennium Ring acts as a detector for other Millennium Items.) *Shrugs*

Just wow :brainexplodes:. Thats what you get when you don't give enough attention to such things.
Well i always thought the Dark presence in the Ring at least was Zork.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

The wish is how it happened. Aknadin did the same thing when he embedded the eye into his socket. (He wished to make his son King.) And we are told that the Millennium Items have a dark will of their own (in the manga at least,) so they are able to act semi-dependently from their user. (Like how the Tauk showed Yugi that one last vision after losing its powers or how the Millennium Ring acts as a detector for other Millennium Items.) *Shrugs*

Ah! I heard about the Aknadin incident, but I didn't really know what they meant with the "evil intelligence" deal. Thanks again, Horoko!

hmm not something in particular to nit-pick on (YGO TAS did it for me) but why did they change the order of events (or completely remove them) and characters so much?

The one with puppet kaiba and player killer I'd understand because of violence and stuff and ity refers to stuff that happened in earlier volumes so they couldn't include it anymore, but everything else?

For example, I saw in the manga that they changed outfits a couple of times since they arrived on the island..what, was the animation budget too small to make clothes design change to fit the manga?

Originally Posted by Arynis

Ah! I heard about the Aknadin incident, but I didn't really know what they meant with the "evil intelligence" deal. Thanks again, Horoko!

I agree that all the items seem to have some will of their own. But when Pegasus told Yuugi about the "evil intelligence" in the Millennium Items, I think he was speaking of an actual person's consciousness (Atem in the Puzzle's case, and Zorc in the Ring's).

Originally Posted by russ869

I agree that all the items seem to have some will of their own. But when Pegasus told Yuugi about the "evil intelligence" in the Millennium Items, I think he was speaking of an actual person's consciousness (Atem in the Puzzle's case, and Zorc in the Ring's).

That would make sense... I was wondering about that the other day, how did Pegasus figure out that the Items have a will of their own?

But I think "evil intelligence" could refer to both the consciousness and the Items' will.

girlwithnonick: To answer about the not changing outfits. That's simply because for animation, you can't have too much details and costume changes for the animators to deal with. They're working with hundreds of cells a second and for them to draw the scenes effectively and efficently, the art can't be too complex. So best way is simple soild colored outfits with not to much changing going on. Mangas allow for changes becuase of the fact that it's only one non moving drawing, but if you notice that too is fairly simple save for some Mangas, because a lot of artist, espeically ones working for Weekly, don't want something hard to have to draw when they have a short deadline.

Originally Posted by russ89

I agree that all the items seem to have some will of their own. But when Pegasus told Yuugi about the "evil intelligence" in the Millennium Items, I think he was speaking of an actual person's consciousness (Atem in the Puzzle's case, and Zorc in the Ring's).

Hmm, well, not really. What Yugi says beforehand about not know about the Puzzle's powers and some sort of will leading him to his other self (normal Yugi) sort of solidifies what Pegasus meant when he replied with the Items having an "evil will."

Originally Posted by Arynis

That would make sense... I was wondering about that the other day, how did Pegasus figure out that the Items have a will of their own?

If you remember correctly, Pegasus witnessed the thief putting on the Ring and being immolated by it. (He also had to go through getting the Eye rammed into his eye to briefly see Cyndia again.) So, he could probably piece everything together.

Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster

To answer about the not changing outfits. That's simply because for animation, you can't have too much details and costume changes for the animators to deal with. They're working with hundreds of cells a second and for them to draw the scenes effectively and efficently, the art can't be too complex. So best way is simple soild colored outfits with not to much changing going on. Mangas allow for changes becuase of the fact that it's only one non moving drawing, but if you notice that too is fairly simple save for some Mangas, because a lot of artist, espeically ones working for Weekly, don't want something hard to have to draw when they have a short deadline.

Well, that's not entirely true. While it is commonly better to stick to a set way of drawing characters for animation, the only people who actually do change clothes in Duelist Kingdom are Anzu, Bakura and Honda (with the two latter being just a removal of their jackets and sweaters much later on in the arc.)

It wouldn't be that hard to dress them in something different for a set span of episodes. This holds doubly true when you consider Battle City, in which Anzu and Honda both changed outfits in the span of a good 10 episodes or so when they really shouldn't have.

So, it was either because they didn't feel it was important enough or they just didn't feel like putting them in two sets of outfits (which is odd, considering a majority of DK settei for those three characters have them dressed in their manga outfits as well.)

Probably though considering that a lot of studios do this, they needed a quick way of reusing animation for certain moments and the best way to cover that is to have the same outfit for a long period of time.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

If you remember correctly, Pegasus witnessed the thief putting on the Ring and being immolated by it. (He also had to go through getting the Eye rammed into his eye to briefly see Cyndia again.) So, he could probably piece everything together.

Ah, yeah! That would make sense. Shadi asked the thief if the "Sennen Ring agrees that he's his holder", and the Ring's "response" was burning the man.

Speaking of Pegasus receiving the Eye, that scene always seemed a bit ambigious to me in the manga... (Since in the anime it's just Shadi pushing it in.) We saw that the Ring was put on the thief by the servants. The only thing we see in Pegasus' case is the servants approaching him with the Eye and a knife, then Pegasus screaming, while holding his face where the Eye was inserted in. I read somewhere that his real eye was stabbed and taken out from his skull, but I thought the knife would be used for intimidation. ("If you refuse, we'll kill you!") I guess that's unlikely, since he stated he'd go ahead and accept the Eye's test.

As for more stupid anime details, I noticed that the Toon monsters are a bit more lively (and rude) in the manga. They say words (Such as "Wow!" or the F word), laugh a lot, and flip their opponents off. BETD did it twice to Kaiba, and if I'm right, Manga Ryu-Ran did it once to Yugi. Just little details like that made them a lot more badass in my book. XD

Originally Posted by Dr_Watson

Maybe the Millennium Items just don't work that well against other item possessors. Like how Shadi nearly lost his mind when he was probing Yugi. Plus, there's the whole after-effect-of-losing-a-game-of-darkness thing. It's apparaently exhausting, as even dub!Bakura noted.

If that's the case how come Pegasus had no problem reading Yugi's mind before the whole switching-minds-every-five-seconds thing?

Originally Posted by russ869

If that's the case how come Pegasus had no problem reading Yugi's mind before the whole switching-minds-every-five-seconds thing?

Good point.

There could be an explanation for Bakura. In Episode 28, when the gang is in that imaginary Egyptian room, Pegasus attempts to read Bakura's mind, but then says, "I can't see his!" and we see Dark Bakura taking place. It could've been a Mind Shuffle of some sorts. Or perhaps it is impossible to read his mind.

As for Shadi... in the flashback of episode 85, he knew Shadi's name, which pretty much retcons the manga. Shadi is a "weird" person to begin with, we don't even know if Mind Scan would work on him. Perhaps he told Pegasus his name, but...bleh.

Something I just noticed the other day. Pegasus had his video cameras in the labyrinth where Yugi and gang meet the Meikyu Brothers. He sees Bakura holding the Millennium Ring.

So how the heck is he surprised later when Bakura reveals that he has it?

Originally Posted by russ869

If that's the case how come Pegasus had no problem reading Yugi's mind before the whole switching-minds-every-five-seconds thing?

Yes, good point. I don't know, bad theory or plot hole? Either way, in the case of Pegasus, I think he was pretty much crushed after the duel with Yugi, and that probably reflected on the efficiency of his item, as well.

Originally Posted by JuJube

Something I just noticed the other day. Pegasus had his video cameras in the labyrinth where Yugi and gang meet the Meikyu Brothers. He sees Bakura holding the Millennium Ring.

So how the heck is he surprised later when Bakura reveals that he has it?

Another plothole?

If you mean Pegasus freaking out in Episode 28 though, I think that was because of Bakura's other side emerging. When Pegasus watches the gang with his cameras, it's the normal Bakura at that time.

To justify this issue, dub Pegasus does know that Bakura has the Millennium Ring. "And now I'll gain control of your Millennium Ring!" ...Or something like that.

Originally Posted by Dr_Watson

Either way, in the case of Pegasus, I think he was pretty much crushed after the duel with Yugi, and that probably reflected on the efficiency of his item, as well.

That's likely, yep.

I remembered this as I was reading the "has anyone ever thought about it" thread in the General Discussion. In the anime, Pegasus tells his story to explain why he created Duel Monsters. In the manga, he does so because Yugi wanted to know where he got his Item, and what was his purpose. The anime also merged Crocketts' little explanation about why Pegasus wanted to obtain control over Kaiba Corp into Pegasus' diary, as well... Poor Crocketts.

Well, İshizu's Millenium item proved wrong in her fight with Kaiba, maybe Pegasus was out-powered or his power started fading as well when he met with Bakura?

Maybe the items have different levels of power and the stronger can negate the power of the weaker (the infamous " ancient egyptian lazer beams!!")

Though, in all honesty, İ think Takahashi didn't think this far ahead so it's a plothole he just overlooked..in the anime it turned out much worse IMO..

I don't think we'll ever figure out the true meaning behind the "Ancient Egyptian Laser Beams" scene. I think it's a sort of Game of Darkness, but really...I don't know. I just don't know. :P (Especially because the beams distort the dimension around the point where they collide, AND knock Pegasus back from the impact...)

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

Though, in all honesty, İ think Takahashi didn't think this far ahead so it's a plothole he just overlooked..in the anime it turned out much worse IMO..

Well, in the manga, the whole sanctuary deal didn't happen (It was different in the manga - all that happened was the gang examining the portraits in the dining hall, and that's it), we don't know much about the creation process of the God Cards (I think... so we don't know if Pegasus encountered Shadi multiple times), and we don't know what happened during the period between Pegasus being left alone and being attacked/killed/robbed of the Eye by Bakura. The anime tried to explain these parts in more detail, which led us to some of these oddities.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though. Especially the God Cards bit.

Also, is it just me, or Pegasus is seen drinking wine a lot more in the anime? I've seen him drinking only once in the manga, and that was while he was reading Funny Rabbit.

A thought just crossed my mind regarding the Mill items and the whole reading minds. Something Mahado said later that caught my attention just now. When he was telling Atem's father that there was darkness in the ring, it seemed that he was the only one that could feel it. Could it be that the Ring had more energy in it, or maybe it was one of the first one's made, and because of this it might govern the other items in a way. A yang to the Puzzle's Ying. That's why Pegasus couldn't do anything to the ring, where as he could read Yuugi's becuase there's less darkness in the puzzle?

Hmm. That's an interesting theory.

Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster

When he was telling Atem's father that there was darkness in the ring, it seemed that he was the only one that could feel it.

In the anime, Pegasus felt the Ring's presence (or at least that's what I think it was) when he got ambushed by Bakura in his sanctuary.

Originally Posted by Episode 40

Pegasus senses something (the screen goes inverted/red(?) for a moment), then turns around.

Pegasus:
Who is it?!

Bakura's Ring shines, along with Pegasus' Millennium Eye.

Pegasus:
You're also a special user of the Dark Powers.

He could've been just referring to the fact that Bakura was a holder of a Millennium Item.

And I just remembered that Pegasus couldn't have remembered Bakura (or anything of the night for that matter), if we go by the theory that he got brainwashed (along with Anzu and Honda) when the two Items' powers clashed in that Egyptian room...Unless he was immune to it due to the protection of the Eye. We don't see what happened to Pegasus at the end of Episode 28, so I don't know.

Bah, fillers and Mind Screw. Really.

Ah but Mind Screws are fun. XP Were it not for them would we really have that much to talk about? At least it wasn't like the end of Samurai deeper Kyo where they wind up in modern day Tokyo. O_O;; Now that was one weird ending.

I don't know that anime, but looking at the title, I assume it was pretty odd.

Yeah, Mind Screws are fun, since they make you think about what were you watching. They are annoying when you just can't seem to get an explanation for whatever happened, though.

How would you explain Yugi's dream in Episode 28, for example? Or, Anzu, Honda and Bakura are in Pegasus' sanctuary with the man inside, they get transported to a Game of Darkness (Well, that's what it was according to Pegasus), and when Pegs and Bakura do Ancient Egyptian Laser Beams Round One, the gang end up in their bedrooms. Unless they were dreaming as well, but Anzu, for instance, clearly wasn't sleeping yet.

As for the topic itself, I've run out of ideas... and I also lost track of what has been mentioned and what hasn't. Bah! (Unless the filler discussion counts.)

Originally Posted by Garlyle

Actually the very first Yugioh episode I saw was the Yugi vs. Bakura in Duelist Kingdom. It was pretty good back then, and I started to watch the series from the beginning. It was still a pretty good episode, but then I heard about the manga, which made a lot more sense in this plot(Table RPG). Ever since I read that manga part(couldn't find the whole version), I simply can't think the same way about that episode as before. Now I think it's just a LOL. (if anyone has that manga, PM me ^^)

I think that was the first one I seen to, Bakura is my favorite character. The duel was before Panik, right, cuz I remember seeing that one too.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Also, I can't stand how in the anime, Ryo Bakura is just essentially written out of the group. He goes from close friend and "part of the group" in the manga, to the "outsider." In the original manga, Ryo is part of the group shot of friends blocking out Pegasus's "Mind Scan" but in the anime..he is conveniently omitted. I have no idea why that happened.

This is one of the things that annoyed me the most, after I read the YGO mangas. >_< Bakura always been part of the gang! Then, in DK and Battle City (anime) he barely appeared, and when he did, there was no importance about his presence D:

Originally Posted by Arynis

Well, I was rewatching some episodes again, and it just made me wonder - how on EARTH did Anzu and co. manage to climb up on the Sanctuary tower's walls?

I know they used the grappling hook on the roof to climb up to the window, but what about the walls? And even if they climbed up the walls, there's that edge thing they're walking on later (the gray one), and I don't know how they could manage that. They're either expert climbers, or... I just don't know.

Those kids these days, they just play too much Tomb Raider. 8DD

Besides, there's one more thing they changed from the manga, of wich anyone mentioned yet o.o That cute scene between Yugi and Tea, after the gang had lunch with Mai, and before Panik/Player Killer caught her. WHY THE HECK DID THEY TOOK THAT OFF?! >_< It was just so adorable! D: