Thread: Stupid Anime Details: Battle City

Damn you, I wanted to make this thread after I had started Battle City so I would have a better recollection of it! (I still can, but...it's a matter of principle, dammit!)

Anyway, to start off with: Malik's introduction---LAWL.

A certain final Norse god battle comes to mind...

Originally Posted by Arynis

One difference I noticed was the whole Pandora vs Yugi duel. In the manga, they are duelling in a smaller room with various decorations on the wall, the anime has a bigger chamber with a puppet sitting behind curtains (Who was supposed to be Catherine). I have the untranslated manga from the forum, so I can't really read the dialogue, but it seems like the whole deal about Catherine is absent from the manga, making Pandora a "simple" Dark Magician-user Ghoul. (If she's referred to in the dialogue, let me know, and I'll delete this in that case.)

She isn't referred to by name, but just after Malik tells Yuugi about the Silent Doll, he notes that Pandora had tried to kill himself twice, once over the death of his mother, and again after his lover died in a magic trick gone wrong. The anime just decided to elaborate on/adjust details.

Originally Posted by cypsiman2

She isn't referred to by name, but just after Malik tells Yuugi about the Silent Doll, he notes that Pandora had tried to kill himself twice, once over the death of his mother, and again after his lover died in a magic trick gone wrong. The anime just decided to elaborate on/adjust details.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing it up! I'll change my post, then.

(But, the anime changed her to be alive, then? She was just driven away by Pandora, if I remember correctly.)

I believe he drove her away, because he deemed hismelf too ugly.

Another question about Pandora; In the manga, Marik makes him commit suicide (off-screen) after he releases control of him, does this happen in the anime?

Malik was more "well, maybe I awaken all his sorrow again and blah blah blah," so it isn't really defined whether he made Pandora kill himself after he woke up. (The English manga took some liberties with that translation, if I remember correctly.)

Do we have to speak about the Noah Arc too?? (It was in the middle of the series)

Eh... I forgot, were talking about the anime and the manga...

What about Kaiba - Jounouchi�s duel?... That wasnt in the manga, as far as know....

I have some questions about the Yuugi-Pandora duel because I haven't read the manga chapters of it. First, I want to know whether Pandora's face was shown in the manga. Second, I'd like to know if Pandora was killed by the buzz saws. Thanks in advance!

Ji_Aasu

No and no.

However, the tip of the buzzsaw blade did nip his legs a bit before Yugi did his super special awesome rescue.

Here's a stupid anime detail that's been bugging me for a while; in the episode just after Yuugi finishes his duel with Pandora, it's the next day! WTF was the point of that? The whole tournament took place over one day, yet for no apparent reason the anime split it into two. Not only does this change not improve anything, it really mucks up the timing of events. Seriously, WTF?

Originally Posted by cypsiman2

Here's a stupid anime detail that's been bugging me for a while; in the episode just after Yuugi finishes his duel with Pandora, it's the next day! WTF was the point of that? The whole tournament took place over one day, yet for no apparent reason the anime split it into two. Not only does this change not improve anything, it really mucks up the timing of events. Seriously, WTF?

You sure about that? IIRC, the whole thing before Battle Ship lasted one day in the anime, too.

As for the topic, Battle City probably had the best anime adaptation out of all three major arcs. I mean, it had its fair share of stupidness, but apart from Malik's intro, nothing that really bothered me.

Aye, it's indeed true. After the Pandora duel, only 3 hours had passed since the tournament started. However, in the anime, a whole day had lapsed.

How about 75? Anzu took that pill but the anime made it a crate, and they removed the cell phone scene. And the silent doll, the manga explains that the doll killed his family and was turned insane in hopes of forgetting.

I'm back from holiday and now this topic will FEEL MY WRATH!

- Mask of Light placed a chastity belt on Kaiba's Duel Disk in the manga to get his attention, in the anime he...piloted a helicopter...with Mokuba tied up with rope...through the city...
- Wicked Goddess Nuvia got cut from the Light Mask/Dark Mask duel even though she was in the opening theme. What the heck? Since when has the anime shortened a duel? Usually they're busy adding Perfectly Ultimate Great Moths to lengthen it.
- The warehouse duel with Keith. Don't get me started.
- Extending the Rare Hunter's duel even after Exodia got killed with some crap about Demon Summon. The Rare Hunter despaired after he lost Exodia in the manga, which is how it should have ended...
- As cool as it was, who came up with Dark Sanctuary?

Originally Posted by supremeking

How about 75? Anzu took that pill but the anime made it a crate, and they removed the cell phone scene.

The pill was great, because it literally was a foolproof way of getting the duel to commence. Unless a sniper could shoot it out of her mouth, anybody makes a wrong move and she dies. The anime's crate was just so stupid in comparison.

Also, nobody better mention the Jean Claude Magnum episode. Filler it may have been, but I enjoy that episode. It's just slightly fanservicey fun, which is fine by me every so often. "Argh, Goddamn boya!"

While we're on the subject of that duel, it's a small thing, but cuffs on arms>>>cuffs on legs XD. Also, Shizuka diving after Jonouchi was stupid.

The anime also made Shizuka's outfit skimpier. Dunno why, guess they just liked messing around with character designs.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

The anime also made Shizuka's outfit skimpier. Dunno why, guess they just liked messing around with character designs.

These are the people that changed the badass "finger game" into a game of drawing the strongest monster with an attempted rapist.

The perverts. D:

Random RAGE inducing thing for me.

Bakura's fashion crisis!

In the manga he doesn't wear the blue jacket while on the Blimp, only his striped shirt. For some reason the anime changed his outfit to include the jacket at all times.

Bakura summoning Ra against Malik. WTF?!

Originally Posted by JACK_ATLUS

Bakura summoning Ra against Malik. WTF?!

That actually makes perfect sense. Bakura is one of the chosen wielders of Millenium Items and he also had the help of a piece of Malik's soul during the duel. So there's no reason at all for him not to be able to wield a God card.

I thought you had to have some kind of connection to ancient Egyptian royalty to control a god, but that's not really what I was getting at. It's just that pretty much the entire duel after Bakura took Ra from Malik was so out of character for both Bakura and the two Maliks that it almost hurts.

Originally Posted by JACK_ATLUS

I thought you had to have some kind of connection to ancient Egyptian royalty to control a god, but that's not really what I was getting at. It's just that pretty much the entire duel after Bakura took Ra from Malik was so out of character for both Bakura and the two Maliks that it almost hurts.

Well Bakura did take the Millennium Ring from Mahad and thus is one of the chosen Millennium Item wielders, so it doesn't matter if you're a priest or not. The only pre-requisite is being able to wield a Millennium Item.

But how is a duel out of character..? Which part are you talking about? The part where Bakura didn't know that the sum total of the attack of the tributes for Ra make up its attacks? I'm not seeing your point of view.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Well Bakura did take the Millennium Ring from Mahad and thus is one of the chosen Millennium Item wielders, so it doesn't matter if you're a priest or not. The only pre-requisite is being able to wield a Millennium Item.

But how is a duel out of character..? Which part are you talking about? The part where Bakura didn't know that the sum total of the attack of the tributes for Ra make up its attacks? I'm not seeing your point of view.

I'm pretty sure he means the childish bickering between Bakura and Marik and Yami Marik picking his ear and making "married couple" jokes.

Originally Posted by Uboa

I'm pretty sure he means the childish bickering between Bakura and Marik and Yami Marik picking his ear and making "married couple" jokes.

Oh that?

Hell, I thought that was freakin' hilarious XD

Dunno if this was listed:

The part when Yami-Bakura released Bakura during his match with Yugi to make Yugi forfeit-

First off , Osiris was a hologram, even if it had some power, I don't remember any of the cards killing an enemy when they attacked them directly before (and it didn't happen here either) so why are they worried now?

Also, Bakura had a cut on his ARM, not him stomach..it it were a severe wound it'd make some sense but I don't see how the blast could kill him like this, at worst make him faint..big deal..

I add to this that Bakura fell on his knees and such..of come on! the cut was on his ARM- almost the shoulder, the part where it hurts the least! Geez he's THAT sensitive?

I'll bet he's in intensive care for weeks when he gets a cold..

So the whole "don't attack him with that hologram of a monster! He has a nasty cut on his arm so he will die from it!" is total bulls*it to me..

I hope Little Kuriboh makes fun of this one it's a scene that deserves parodying..

Anybody else find this scenario hard to believe?

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

So the whole "don't attack him with that hologram of a monster! He has a nasty cut on his arm so he will die from it!" is total bulls*it to me..

Well, to defend the scene slightly, in the manga his arm is bleeding far worse (since Dark Bakura really went at it with his knife), plus Bakura is generally understood to be a bit of a wimp. Also, 'Solid Vision' is supposed to be somehow more than a hologram (which is what Duelist Kingdom was). They seem to have pain simulators somehow. Either way, it is made obvious that they're more realistic than the Duelist Kingdom holograms.

Finally (lol), God Cards don't appear in holograms, when they're summoned they're pretty much summoned for real. Not exactly, but that's why Yugi is hesitant to summon his Gods except in important circumstances.

Finally (lol), God Cards don't appear in holograms, when they're summoned they're pretty much summoned for real. Not exactly, but that's why Yugi is hesitant to summon his Gods except in important circumstances.

Yes I think the next episode(?) shows what happened to Pegasus' crew after they saw the cards so the creatures were more like spirits then cards, however it's not like Bakura's the 1st person to get attacked by a god card and THE OTHERS didn't die , why would he?

I think if he was to faint and all, it's more likely be from the cold wind, bloodloss and waiting too much for Yugi to attack/not attack than Osiris..

plus Bakura is generally understood to be a bit of a wimp

btw I loled at this one, so true hah

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

Yes I think the next episode(?) shows what happened to Pegasus' crew after they saw the cards so the creatures were more like spirits then cards, however it's not like Bakura's the 1st person to get attacked by a god card and THE OTHERS didn't die , why would he?

Well, people who've been attacked by God Cards in the past weren't exactly too fresh afterwards, and being hit by a semi-real Thunder Force probably wouldn't have helped matters.

I guess but it's borderline ridiculous, especially since to excuse it you need at least 10 min and 3 episode summaries worth of discussion when telling someone about it (like we are now)

So, like I said, it's A material to make fun of (like Mariks' short shirt, which MAY be purple, but i see it pink..oh yes he is very menacing )..

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

Yes I think the next episode(?) shows what happened to Pegasus' crew after they saw the cards so the creatures were more like spirits then cards, however it's not like Bakura's the 1st person to get attacked by a god card and THE OTHERS didn't die , why would he?

I think if he was to faint and all, it's more likely be from the cold wind, bloodloss and waiting too much for Yugi to attack/not attack than Osiris..



btw I loled at this one, so true hah

The attack from a god card would have been most likely to kill Bakura because he was already injured. Although I'm a little confused as to why it would have a lesser effect on him with Dark Bakura posessing him.

Probably cuz he has/can control better the power of the ring.
Just like Atemu AND his gang was protected from the fire of Player Killer(Panik) in DK.

Although I'm a little confused as to why it would have a lesser effect on him with Dark Bakura possessing him.

Well I think when Yami Bakura takes over, the body strengthens A LOT.
In the manga he takes out guards in Pegasus' dungeon who were twice his size and in the anime (dunno if that's in the manga) he twists Zigors (jpn name?) arm right back and pins him -while that guys a gorilla! 0.o

So I think he's very strong unlike the real Bakura (who probably can't hold open a door ) and probably doesn't feel pain either.

It lead me to believe that Yami Bakura is a bit de-synced with the body, showing it's a host and not his real body, so some of the things like coldness , pain, etc don't apply for him..

That scene in the anime was somewhat in the manga, but Bakura didn't go around materializing Duel Monsters cards all willie nillie. You just sort of see the guard on the ground and then Bakura with the keys to Honda's cell. The scene with Bakura twisting Satake's arm is also not in the manga. That whole duel, sans the fact that Bakura defeats Kotsuzuka, is not in the manga.

Plus, an explanation as to why the God cards are unlike normal cards was given in one chapter. Although, I can't remember which one, offhand, but I do remember something of the sort.

I don't think that Dark Bakura's completely impervious to pain. It probably just doesn't affect him too much. He seems like the kinda guy who likes pain anyways. He has a real body, albeit not his own. So to some extent he must feel pain.

Maybe but not as much as his host, that means he and the body he's in don't work the same way as when Bakuras in it..

I'm thinking of that thing when someone is posessed in a series and suddenly they can do things they couldn't do before..

He seems like the kinda guy who likes pain anyways

Yeah I like this idea a lot, it's quite possible..

You just sort of see the guard on the ground and then Bakura with the keys to Honda's cell.

I read that chapter so if he didn't seal the guards soul in an object (like he did in vol 7) he must've you know, knocked him out? Outpowered him somehow? That'd make him pretty strong, IMO..

The scene with Bakura twisting Satake's arm is also not in the manga. That whole duel, sans the fact that Bakura defeats Kotsuzuka, is not in the manga.

Oh ok I only saw the page with him killing Kotsuzuka so I was wondering if he did anything to them before that. But in the anime, it implies that he's pretty strong..in the same episode he lifts a guy by his shirt , again something I don't think the normal Bakura could do..

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

Maybe but not as much as his host, that means he and the body he's in don't work the same way as when Bakuras in it..

I'm thinking of that thing when someone is posessed in a series and suddenly they can do things they couldn't do before..

It's basically like a power-up. While the posessed person can now do things that they couldn't before, they still have a mortal body and are susceptible to being wounded, pain, and even death.

Yeah pretty much, but the pain, wounds feel differently than when they aren't possessed...

Originally Posted by girlwithnonick

I read that chapter so if he didn't seal the guards soul in an object (like he did in vol 7) he must've you know, knocked him out? Outpowered him somehow? That'd make him pretty strong, IMO..

He could have done a number of things to him. Mind Doll'd him, knocked him with a blunt object, used those mystic laserbeam powers he did against Pegasus in the anime (lawl,) etc, etc.

Oh ok I only saw the page with him killing Kotsuzuka so I was wondering if he did anything to them before that. But in the anime, it implies that he's pretty strong..in the same episode he lifts a guy by his shirt , again something I don't think the normal Bakura could do..

He "beat" Kotsuzuka. Whether he killed him is up to interpretation. (Even though the Gospel of Truth says slightly otherwise.) Also, anyone can lift someone by the shirt. It's not really all that hard to do. (Especially when you're not really lifting them off the ground, but just pulling them forward.)

I don't think swapping out souls really gives you any sort of physical increase in strength, so Dark Bakura would be just as physically strong as Bakura is.

It's basically like a power-up. While the posessed person can now do things that they couldn't before, they still have a mortal body and are susceptible to being wounded, pain, and even death.

Well, considering Dark Bakura stabbed himself twice (while laughing like a crazy fucker no less,) he just seems to have a higher tolerance for pain than normal Bakura would.

Well, about the whole holograms things...the duel monsters generated in a duel are not holograms. They're "solid vision." Only the dub calls them holograms. They're literally "solid light" or a "volumetric display" as one poster in the forums explained. The technology actually exists, and is called...volumetric display. It's essentially where a display device can physically display an object in three physical dimensions.

Solid Vision in YGO makes the monsters tangible to a degree. You can feel them and see them. Furthermore, Egyptian Gods are not manifestations from Solid Vision. They are literally spiritual beings who can inflict terrible physical and mental damage on someone. Only someone with a Milenium Item can withstand a direct attack by a god card and not be phsyically and mentally broken by the experience. So being shocked by Osiris's Thunder Force or burned by Ra's fire would hurt...a lot.

Also, the wound on Bakura's arm was deep. And there's a major artery in your arm. If you're cut there you could bleed to death, and Ryou's arm was constantly bleeding through the bandage. When he was possessed bythe dark spirit, he felt no pain but when he returned to normal, he felt terrible pain and dizziness from blood loss.

And Horoko, didn't the Gospel of Truth say Ghost Kotsuzuka was killed by Bakura? I thought it was pretty clear that he died in the manga and anime...or at least devoured by the shadows which is essentially the same thing XD

The Gospel of Truth said he was "quickly killed" by Bakura. But I've seen that word used as an expression for "quickly defeated" in other stuff and characters appear...you know, not dead. And in the anime, Bakura says that Kotsuzuka and his group are getting "dragged down to hell," and considering it was a Penalty Game, the entire thing could have been one big drug hallucination. And considering its the anime, they probably forgot it ever happened.

LOL but this is Bakura we're talking about. He really is a killer! I think he even calls himself that during his duel against Yugi during the Memory arc.

First the priests in the past, then Pegasus, and now Ghost Kotsuzuka. Considering its a penalty game of a killer like Bakura, I'd bet the result would be death.

....And to be honest, I'm kinda glad Kotsuzuka is dead. Annoying cheater and freak.

Dark Bakura doesn't seem like the guy to leave a job half-done or a victim half-killed. He even got rid of Shadi, somehow.

Poor Kotsuzaka. He has the lamest luck.

Mask of Darkness seemed to take Obelisk's fist pretty well. I don't remember anything being said about Item holders being the only ones who can take a hit from a God card. Ra's fire burned Jyonouchi the way it did because of Malik's Game of Darkness, not because it was a god card.

Granted, the god cards are no ordinary cards, but causing deat I don't think so.

Wait, when did Kotsuzuka cheat? Sure, Keith coached him through the Jyonouchi duel, but, who can blame him?

Hmm. I liked the duel against Roba a lot more in the manga, but I don't think that's actually a "Stupid Anime Detail."

Originally Posted by JACK_ATLUS

Mask of Darkness seemed to take Obelisk's fist pretty well. I don't remember anything being said about Item holders being the only ones who can take a hit from a God card. Ra's fire burned Jyonouchi the way it did because of Malik's Game of Darkness, not because it was a god card.

Well I'm just speaking generally. Some duelists are tougher than others. But even Mask of Darkness looked pretty f*cked up despite it all. It certainly took something out of him. Same goes for Koji Nagumo. When Kaiba beat his face with Obelisk in Battle City, he not only just sat there staring blankly while Kaiba walked off, he screamed in pain and torment. Something must've snapped in his mind.

Granted, the god cards are no ordinary cards, but causing deat I don't think so.

I'm sure the card designers who originally tried to create those god cards would disagree with you. Vehemently.

Wait, when did Kotsuzuka cheat? Sure, Keith coached him through the Jyonouchi duel, but, who can blame him?

I consider aiding in the kidnapping of a duelist so they're forced to play in the arena where you hold the distinct advantage, kind of cheating. Also, scaring people into dropping their stuff so you can steal it and qualify for a tournament is cheating too. That and he also had an arrogant attitude. He was a little twerp.

Hmm. I liked the duel against Roba a lot more in the manga, but I don't think that's actually a "Stupid Anime Detail."

Roba...now thats definitely a cheater, but I can't help but like him after he loses and the way he has that sickeningly sweet family moment. XD

Like Little Kuriboh said, why DO they all look the same? lol
Even the baby

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Well I'm just speaking generally. Some duelists are tougher than others. But even Mask of Darkness looked pretty f*cked up despite it all. It certainly took something out of him. Same goes for Koji Nagumo. When Kaiba beat his face with Obelisk in Battle City, he not only just sat there staring blankly while Kaiba walked off, he screamed in pain and torment. Something must've snapped in his mind.

The main thing was that it wasn't a dark game, especially the types Yami Malik started.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Also, 'Solid Vision' is supposed to be somehow more than a hologram (which is what Duelist Kingdom was). They seem to have pain simulators somehow. Either way, it is made obvious that they're more realistic than the Duelist Kingdom holograms.

That's right. The 'Solid Vision' holograms are volumetric, as in they take up actually physical space somehow. Think Star Trek holodeck. The Duelist Kingdom holograms were just 3D images projected on the flat walls of the duel boxes they played inside.

Anyway, I think Yugi was more worried about a god's attack throwing Bakura in to shock (like it does Jonouchi later in the series) rather than physically killing him. And considering Bakura was such a weak wimp, he probably wouldn't have been lucky enough to survive like Jonouchi barely did.

edit: On second thought, that probably wouldn't have happened either since Yugi vs. Bakura wasn't even a game of darkness.

Has anyone ever noticed that in episode 79 where Bakura and Ghost Kotsuzuka duel, Ghost takes his mask off, but a few seconds later, he takes it off a second time?

Just a silly detail. Not sure if it's a "Stupid Anime Detail" though.