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    Who here has seen the subtitled version of the YGO: Pyramid of Light movie done by GoldenUmi?

    ....You haven't? Screw you, go download it and watch it. Right now. And then come back.

    Watched it? Good. Now did you notice something that jumped out at you regarding the plot between all the dueling?

    ....No? Well go back to around 1:10 where Yugi, Jou and Honda confront the mummified corpse of Anubis, who states:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    When light and darkness clash, light will fill the world. And when the King of Light is ruined, the King of Destruction will revive...The King of Destruction will come with the Ultimate Light, and fill this world with the Light of Destruction!
    Anubis wants to fill the world with...the Light of Destruction? Really?

    Who wrote this movie? Did Yoshida? Did Yoshida really go back to the YGO Movie for a plot device in GX's season 2, which was ALSO meant to be a movie as well?

    If so, I can't help but applaud that nod of continuity. Apparently the Light of Destruction was around even back then...

    I'm seriously surprised no one said anything about this.

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    Default Re: The Light of Destruction - More relevant than we thought?

    Unfortunately the Movie was not written by Yoshida. So that was a plot point that was simply forgotten.
    At the Konami Headquarters one day...

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    Hey, you bastard, is there any chance you may not interfere with ZeXal's plot this year?
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    No we won't. By the way, we have a gift for you for your great help in advertising Duelist Revolution and Storm of Ragnarok last year.
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    Thanks. What is it?
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    An extension of 90 episodes for ZeXal anime, bringing it to a total of 110 episodes, solely used for advertising our creations.

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    Even so, it's rather funny he reached that far back and used it anyways. Granted he made it into sentient space radiation which..wasn't what it was back then but still. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenghost View Post
    Unfortunately the Movie was not written by Yoshida. So that was a plot point that was simply forgotten.
    I would say that the Japanese dub of the movie holds way more water than the 4Kids version, since NAS actually writes the Yu-Gi-Oh! animes.



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    Shin Yoshida didn't direct the seasons in which the Light of Destruction were relevant. Those were coordinated by Takegami Junki.

    Who interestingly enough was behind the Screenplay for Pyramid of Light along with long time Duel Coordinator Hikokubo Masahiro. And for relevance here. Takegami was responsible for DM until the Alcatraz arc. Respectively, Takegami Junki with GX was responsible for 1 to 156, roughly. Shin Yoshida only dealt with plot coordination for DOMA, Goofballs Millennium World, and the Darkness Arc for DM and GX.

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    Well it makes even more sense now, thanks Ark!

    See, I just kinda thought that it was interesting they had that plot point from DM tie into GX. That kinda threw me for a loop.

    I thought Yoshida did more with GX though.

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    Mere coincidence in my eyes. Was this perhaps an extra scene that the Japanese version had that the dub did not? Just curious.

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    http://www.janime.eu/threads/47247-D...enwriter-Index
    http://www.janime.eu/threads/47252-D...enwriter-Index
    http://www.janime.eu/threads/47289-5...enwriter-Index

    Yoshida on average has written the most episodes out of every writer in DM, GX, and so far in 5D's. But for half of DM, Takegami was the guy running the story direction and for 6/7ths of GX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post
    Mere coincidence in my eyes. Was this perhaps an extra scene that the Japanese version had that the dub did not? Just curious.
    Iirc, the movie came out around late season one GX. Considering they have the same writer, I'd say it's probably more than coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragna View Post
    Iirc, the movie came out around late seaon one GX. Considering they have the same writer, I'd say it's probably more than coincidence.
    Considering the movie was made for the American release which aired before the end of Battle City, I don't think so.

    Besides, I think you got your dates wrong, the movie came out in 2004, GX didn't start until late 2004, meaning the ned would of season 1 would have been late 2005.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post
    Considering the movie was made for the American release which aired before the end of Battle City, I don't think so.

    Besides, I think you got your dates wrong, the movie came out in 2004, GX didn't start until 2005.
    The JPN version of the movie came out in 2005. GX started in Japan in 2004.

    Also...

    I would say that the Japanese dub of the movie holds way more water than the 4Kids version, since NAS actually writes the Yu-Gi-Oh! animes.



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    Whatever, as I said, it was made more for America, unlike the 3D movie Bonds Beyond Time. If the scene was an extra scene, then I see you point.

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    Shame the Light of Destruction didn't do a lot more. I liked the idea of light being evil for a change instead of going the cliche route and making darkness evil.
    ...Which they also did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTDmaster View Post
    Shame the Light of Destruction didn't do a lot more. I liked the idea of light being evil for a change instead of going the cliche route and making darkness evil.
    ...Which they also did.

    The line between light and darkness was always pretty thin with YGO. Like how Yugi's ace monster is DARK and Kaiba's is LIGHT. Even Malik's ace monster was the god of the sun. It's pretty much always been about how to exactly handle that light/darkness rather than one always being evil. Atem experienced this mental challenge in Manga!Duelist Kingdom.

    I really wish this movie would have been more of a mini-spinoff like YGO:R instead. Anubis had a lot of potential, and his design wasn't that bad. Out of all of the plot points in the original manga, Shadi's "Servant of Anubis" line was the one we never got to see explored.



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    Perhaps it was supposed to be canon, as per the original concept Kaz had before he got ill doing the manga. We don't know the full content what the manga would have been had he not fallen ill during the Momory Arc. We know he would have expanded on Priest Seto, but perhaps he had something for Anubis, the death God of Egypt, planned as well.

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    I think that the Light of Destruction is just a simple personification of the source of all evil in the YGO verse that's probably been around since the beginning of the universe(when... it was being created by cards after the ****ing big bang? I dunno). I hear that unlike the Western views we hold, East Asian cultures tend to think that black/dark is good while white/light is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoKING View Post
    I think that the Light of Destruction is just a simple personification of the source of all evil in the YGO verse that's probably been around since the beginning of the universe(when... it was being created by cards after the ****ing big bang? I dunno). I hear that unlike the Western views we hold, East Asian cultures tend to think that black/dark is good while white/light is bad.
    ....................Those Race Acceptance seminars in Japan are some serious shit. *shot*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Who here has seen the subtitled version of the YGO: Pyramid of Light movie done by GoldenUmi?

    ....You haven't? Screw you, go download it and watch it. Right now. And then come back.

    Watched it? Good. Now did you notice something that jumped out at you regarding the plot between all the dueling?

    ....No? Well go back to around 1:10 where Yugi, Jou and Honda confront the mummified corpse of Anubis, who states:



    Anubis wants to fill the world with...the Light of Destruction? Really?

    Who wrote this movie? Did Yoshida? Did Yoshida really go back to the YGO Movie for a plot device in GX's season 2, which was ALSO meant to be a movie as well?

    If so, I can't help but applaud that nod of continuity. Apparently the Light of Destruction was around even back then...

    I'm seriously surprised no one said anything about this.
    ... you must be kidding, right? I saw the movie subbed for the first time some days ago, thought the EXACT same thing and commented on the youtube video about that.
    still, is Anubis actually talking about the GX Light of destruction? He might have used just a term that is translateable as Light of Destruction which was never actually used in GX as it was actually a name in gx.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtrgMXnYBU#t=3m51s
    could anyone with translation skills find out please?
    Last edited by Neptun; 12/21/10 at 03:08 PM.

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    It's Hakai no Hikari in Pyramid of Light. It's Hametsu no Hikari in GX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Anubis wants to fill the world with...the Light of Destruction? Really?

    Who wrote this movie? Did Yoshida? Did Yoshida really go back to the YGO Movie for a plot device in GX's season 2, which was ALSO meant to be a movie as well?
    You're giving GX's writers waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post
    Besides, I think you got your dates wrong, the movie came out in 2004, GX didn't start until late 2004, meaning the end would of season 1 would have been late 2005.
    Maybe it was done specifically to cause this kind of discussion. That way GX would seem deeper than the poorly-written, poorly-animated and poorly-received piece of shite it turned out to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoArkadia View Post
    It's Hakai no Hikari in Pyramid of Light. It's Hametsu no Hikari in GX.
    And that's when it's actually called by name. Usually, they just call it "Hikari no Hadou" (Surge/Wave of Light).

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    I pre-ordered the movie from Amazon UK. It should come to my house in August. What I don't understand is that why is there such thing as the uncut English dubbed version of the movie only on the UK DVD?
    Because in the UK we don't **** around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDust_Dragon View Post
    You're giving GX's writers waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.
    I dunno, there's not a lot of "evil light that brings destruction" in YGO. It's kinda hard to just...stumble into that plot device. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    I dunno, there's not a lot of "evil light that brings destruction" in YGO. It's kinda hard to just...stumble into that plot device. XD
    Well, if in Japan Light is considered evil, I wouldn't think it would be so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoArkadia View Post
    It's Hakai no Hikari in Pyramid of Light. It's Hametsu no Hikari in GX.
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDust_Dragon View Post
    And that's when it's actually called by name. Usually, they just call it "Hikari no Hadou" (Surge/Wave of Light).
    All right, so for the sake of reference:

    "Hakai no Hikari"(Pyramid of Light) = "The Light of Annihilation"
    "Hametsu no Hikari"(GX) = "The Light of Destruction"
    "Hikari no Hado"(Other) = "The Surge of Light"
    "G???NO??HIKARI????"(???) = "The Light that Saved Car Insurance By Switching to Geicko"
    "Satellite no Shometsu de Sono Nazo no Hikari"(5D's, maybe?) = "Momentum/The Light that Caused Satellite to Cave In"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post
    Well, if in Japan Light is considered evil, I wouldn't think it would be so hard.
    Light isn't always considered evil. It depends on the context and belief system, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    I dunno, there's not a lot of "evil light that brings destruction" in YGO. It's kinda hard to just...stumble into that plot device. XD
    Uh... yes there is, apparently, 'cause a different one has been in all 3 shows.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoKING View Post
    All right, so for the sake of reference:

    "Hakai no Hikari"(Pyramid of Light) = "The Light of Annihilation"
    "Hametsu no Hikari"(GX) = "The Light of Destruction"
    "Hikari no Hado"(Other) = "The Surge of Light"
    "G???NO??HIKARI????"(???) = "The Light that Saved Car Insurance By Switching to Geicko"
    "Satellite no Shometsu de Sono Nazo no Hikari"(5D's, maybe?) = "Momentum/The Light that Caused Satellite to Cave In"
    Lolwut. No srsly, lolwut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nike View Post
    I pre-ordered the movie from Amazon UK. It should come to my house in August. What I don't understand is that why is there such thing as the uncut English dubbed version of the movie only on the UK DVD?
    Because in the UK we don't **** around.
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