Thread: Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Special

Originally Posted by YYugi

There's a speculation that says that Paradox could be possessed by the mask.

I was thinking of that possibility, but it reminded me of Darkness and Fubuki from GX, and well... The Mask. But then again, with all those Darkness theories about Paradox's future... it could've just taken a new mask form and possess Paradox. But why would Darkness destroy Duel Monsters, the "origin of the world"? Darkness only wanted Instrumentality, not destroying the world. (Granted, that would've "killed" the entire human population...) But now, if the future was indeed corrupted by Darkness and the Light of Destruction, it could've turned into an entirely new evil.

The glowing mask could be another evidence for the possession, too. (See my signature.)

Of course, the possession plot has been done so many times, but as long as it's pulled off well enough, I suppose there's no need to complain.

Wow...I'm speechless on that video. Gotta say, the animation is...way too gorgeous! Who cares if horrible plot and all, this is f*cking awesome! =D

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

If you read my post better you would have seen that I meant Judai is able to fuse the easiest out of the two, Yugi in the middle and Yusei last. Judai has more ways to fuse monsters than he does a change of underwear.

Well, yeah; He runs a Fusion-based deck. But your post makes it sound like Yugi and Yusei won't be able to combine their monsters at all. With Atem's topdecking abilities, getting Polymerisation for a Dark Magician Girl/Junk Warrior fusion (or whatever) ain't gonna be difficult. Neos + Dark Magician + Stardust might easily be a Contact Fusion...

Originally Posted by Kai Yamato

Black Luster Soldier + Neos eh? What will we call it? Since it's Japanese name is Chaos Soldier.... Chaos Neos! ... Oh wait, we already have that.

"Elemental Hero Neos Soldier", then. Or possibly "Elemental Hero Neos, Envoy of the Middle" :p

Black Luster Neos in the dub, presumeably???

Originally Posted by Cassius335

Well, yeah; He runs a Fusion-based deck. But your post makes it sound like Yugi and Yusei won't be able to combine their monsters at all. With Atem's topdecking abilities, getting Polymerisation for a Dark Magician Girl/Junk Warrior fusion (or whatever) ain't gonna be difficult. Neos + Dark Magician + Stardust might easily be a Contact Fusion...



"Elemental Hero Neos Soldier", then. Or possibly "Elemental Hero Neos, Envoy of the Middle" :p

Black Luster Neos in the dub, presumeably???

But you still didn't read my post entirely through. It's true that Yugi/Atem/Yami Yugi have incredible luck, but he only has one or two Fusion cards in his deck. Judai is able to fuse much quicker out of the three. Does it mean he is more skilled than Yugi? Hell no, I was simply making a comparison based on their strategies.

Regardless, your second point is true. I could see a contact fusion between the three of them.

Looking back, when Yusei meets up with Judai, he looks dirty since there was some mess on his pants and his cheek. Sooo, Yusei meets a hobo?

Originally Posted by Kyte

Looking back, when Yusei meets up with Judai, he looks dirty since there was some mess on his pants and his cheek. Sooo, Yusei meets a hobo?

He had just been attacked by Stardust, thus he got messy from that.

Originally Posted by YYugi

There's a speculation that says that Paradox could be possessed by the mask.

Like Fubuki ? It's possible but I don't believe Paradox is possessed.

Maybe at a moment of his life he was happy. And his life is become a tragedy. His mask represents this: he would retrieve the feeling of hapiness. Zero Reverse is seen in the precedent trailer. Maybe there a link, maybe Zero Reverse had killed his family ? So, he will become alone and his sadness would starting at this moment. Zero Reverse is arrived because the seals, which are the cards, hasn't work. So, Duel Monsters is responsible of Zero Reverse.

Paradox suffers definitively of a split personnality. Why he suffers of a split personnality ? Arynis has noticed that masked Paradox has polite speech by the word "kimi". And unmasked Paradox has a rude speech by the word "omae". It is interesting to notice that It's the first time a character use two speech for himself in his speech. Y�gi is the only character who use a polite speech instead of Atem uses a rude speech. But It's two differents persons. The difference is that Paradox, uses two speeches in the same time for himself. The polite speech show his light side and the rude speech shows his dark side. It's the real sense of his name: his personnality is a paradox.

It is interesting of notice that It's masked Paradox so "Dark Paradox" who steals dragons. The mask prevent him to see bad actions that he does. The mask makes the things more easy. Paradox don't see with his real eyes when he do bad actions. He see with the mask.

Light Paradox, according his speech, is someone who is certainly honest, acts good. I would add even "innocent". Maybe I wrong but Light Paradox don't imagine that his action is bad. He acts to help everyone. A priori, there no problem. However, It's here that the mask comes into the scene.

Unconciously, he realizes that his actions are bad. So, wear a mask prevent him to see the reality of his actions. It's why his speech change: he try to escape, he refuses to realizes that It's really him who steals dragons, him who wants destroys the future. Simply, Paradox makes himself blind behind another personality.

Concerning the eyes on his mask, maybe It's a demonstration of his Psychic powers.

Originally Posted by Kyte

Looking back, when Yusei meets up with Judai, he looks dirty since there was some mess on his pants and his cheek. Sooo, Yusei meets a hobo?

Oddly enough, I pictured Judai as Phoenix Wright from the fourth game for a moment when I read this, except KENN voices Apollo in the Japanese version of the game... so yeah. XD

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

He had just been attacked by Stardust, thus he got messy from that.

Kyte is referring to the rooftop scene, I think. The voiceover at that point in the video talks about how Yusei reached Judai with a time slip (and something about how Paradox travelled into the past as well). This implies that the rooftop scene is either:

- Indeed the GX period. We know that Judai travels all over the world to aid those who are in need of his powers. Maybe he just happened to be in a wrecked place where he was helping people out and it's his work which made him look dirty.

- The rooftop scene is after the confrontation at the mansion area, the grandfather paradox(es) has(have) occurred, transporting everyone to some special space reserved for lost and/or destroyed timelines. (*coughDarknessBeyondTimecoughChronoCrosscough*)

- The rooftop scene is in the ruined future, the grandfather paradox(es) has(have) occurred.

He doesn't look dirty when he's asking for Yugi's help with Yusei, however. The dirt marks on his face from the mansion battle do resemble his rooftop ones, though.

Originally Posted by Allana

Like Fubuki ? It's possible but I don't believe Paradox is possessed.

Maybe at a moment of his life he was happy. And his life is become a tragedy. His mask represents this: he would retrieve the feeling of hapiness. Zero Reverse is seen in the precedent trailer. Maybe there a link, maybe Zero Reverse had killed his family ? So, he will become alone and his sadness would starting at this moment. Zero Reverse is arrived because the seals, which are the cards, hasn't work. So, Duel Monsters is responsible of Zero Reverse.

Paradox suffers definitively of a split personnality. Why he suffers of a split personnality ? Arynis has noticed that masked Paradox has polite speech by the word "kimi". And unmasked Paradox has a rude speech by the word "omae". It is interesting to notice that It's the first time a character use two speech for himself in his speech. Y�gi is the only character who use a polite speech instead of Atem uses a rude speech. But It's two differents persons. The difference is that Paradox, uses two speeches in the same time for himself. The polite speech show his light side and the rude speech shows his dark side. It's the real sense of his name: his personnality is a paradox.

It is interesting of notice that It's masked Paradox so "Dark Paradox" who steals dragons. The mask prevent him to see bad actions that he does. The mask makes the things more easy. Paradox don't see with his real eyes when he do bad actions. He see with the mask.

Light Paradox, according his speech, is someone who is certainly honest, acts good. I would add even "innocent". Maybe I wrong but Light Paradox don't imagine that his action is bad. He acts to help everyone. A priori, there no problem. However, It's here that the mask comes into the scene.

Unconciously, he realizes that his actions are bad. So, wear a mask prevent him to see the reality of his actions. It's why his speech change: he try to escape, he refuses to realizes that It's really him who steals dragons, him who wants destroys the future. Simply, Paradox makes himself blind behind another personality.

Concerning the eyes on his mask, maybe It's a demonstration of his Psychic powers.

While this is all an interesting theory, I don't think we can assume a possession or a split personality based on the few clips we have seen. If Paradox was using more than one form of "I" for himself (meaning switching from say "boku" or "watashi" to the more masculine/rude "ore) then I would be more quick to agree with this. But the usage of "you" in Japanese widely shifts depending on the situation. The shots shown in the trailer could be from two different points in the movie. At the start he may be addressing the three rudely, but if he comes to understand and respect them by the end of the Duel somehow, he may change his form of addressing them, reflecting the change you saw.

I think, if anything, as you touched briefly on, he just acts differently when he wears his mask. He could be similar to how Aki was with her mask. It could be another personality or just his unconscious anger built up. Either way, we will need to learn a bit more before coming to that conclusion.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Oddly enough, I pictured Judai as Phoenix Wright from the fourth game for a moment when I read this, except KENN voices Apollo in the Japanese version of the game... so yeah. XD



Kyte is referring to the rooftop scene, I think. The voiceover at that point in the video talks about how Yusei reached Judai with a time slip (and something about how Paradox travelled into the past as well). This implies that the rooftop scene is either:

- Indeed the GX period. We know that Judai travels all over the world to aid those who are in need of his powers. Maybe he just happened to be in a wrecked place where he was helping people out and it's his work which made him look dirty.

- The rooftop scene is after the confrontation at the mansion area, the grandfather paradox(es) has(have) occurred, transporting everyone to some special space reserved for lost and/or destroyed timelines. (*coughDarknessBeyondTimecoughChronoCrosscough*)

- The rooftop scene is in the ruined future, the grandfather paradox(es) has(have) occurred.

He doesn't look dirty when he's asking for Yugi's help with Yusei, however. The dirt marks on his face from the mansion battle do resemble his rooftop ones, though.

Well he could have cleaned up somehow by the time the meet Yugi. I'm fairly certain that those dirt marks were from his battle on the mansion.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

While this is all an interesting theory, I don't think we can assume a possession or a split personality based on the few clips we have seen. If Paradox was using more than one form of "I" for himself (meaning switching from say "boku" or "watashi" to the more masculine/rude "ore) then I would be more quick to agree with this. But the usage of "you" in Japanese widely shifts depending on the situation. The shots shown in the trailer could be from two different points in the movie. At the start he may be addressing the three rudely, but if he comes to understand and respect them by the end of the Duel somehow, he may change his form of addressing them, reflecting the change you saw.

I think, if anything, as you touched briefly on, he just acts differently when he wears his mask. He could be similar to how Aki was with her mask. It could be another personality or just his unconscious anger built up. Either way, we will need to learn a bit more before coming to that conclusion.

It's possible and this idea is interesting but the scene where Paradox say the word "kimi" seems came from the beginning, when he arrives in Yugi's time. I think this because the background of the scene and the fact he pronunces "Duel Monsters" in his line. I suppose that in this scene, he explains the reasons of his actions. At this time, It's Light Paradox who talks: his action is good, he wants save the world. It's why he is so quiet. He will realzes a good action. After, Yugi, Judai and Yusei realizes the consequences of his speech. Yusei talk him that If he wants to sucess, he must fight himself, Yugi and Judai. At this moment, Paradox must fight. He is obliged to fight. So, he take the mask and Dark Paradox arrives: he can't leave Yugi, Yusei and Judai prevent his good action. And, the duel starts.

I suppose that Paradox split personnality is like two face of the same person. Light Paradox is good, he acts for everyone. His polite speech exprims this: he is a good person who shows respect and politeness at everyone. Dark Paradox is bad, he use a rude speech. His speech exprims his bad actions. Dark Paradox use all solutions for fight which is Psychics powers. They are so powerful that Neos must do a shield between Stardust Dragon attack's and Judai. Dark Paradox will be ready to kill with his Psychics powers to prevent Judai, Yusei and Yugi to stop him. Paradox knows his Psychics powers are powerful. Light Paradox, who acts good, must feel pain because he knows he hurts people. So, Dark Paradox must fight because Light Paradox can't realizes that he hurts people, that he steals dragon. When he must do bad actions, the mask arrives and Dark Paradox comes into the scene. It's unconcious. He wears the mask by a reflexe.

He shows his face before the duel, If I'm right about the moment of the scene. This don't mean that he reveals his real name. Just his face. I suppose that the revelation of his name came at the end. I don't think the writers reveals his name at the beginning: the suspense will be destroyed.

For Aki, It's different: she wears the mask for not think like Divine explains her. The mask prevent Aki to think at the consequences of his Psychics powers. It's her way to create another self: the one who don't think at the damage that her Psychics powers gives at the others duelists.

But Paradox and Aki has something in common: the pain. According to Divine, Psychic powers appears because of the pain. Consequently, his Psychic powers appears because his pain is become impossible to bear like Aki. They seems more developped, more powerful than Aki. Psychics powers seems be proportional at the pain. Paradox's pain must be immense.

Originally Posted by Cassius335

Well, yeah; He runs a Fusion-based deck. But your post makes it sound like Yugi and Yusei won't be able to combine their monsters at all. With Atem's topdecking abilities, getting Polymerisation for a Dark Magician Girl/Junk Warrior fusion (or whatever) ain't gonna be difficult. Neos + Dark Magician + Stardust might easily be a Contact Fusion...

I don't think that it will be a contact fusion.I think that Judai will activate super polymerization and fuse the 3 monsters.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

But you still didn't read my post entirely through. It's true that Yugi/Atem/Yami Yugi have incredible luck, but he only has one or two Fusion cards in his deck. Judai is able to fuse much quicker out of the three. Does it mean he is more skilled than Yugi? Hell no, I was simply making a comparison based on their strategies.

One or two should be plenty, if we assume we're only going to get 1 Yugi-Yuusei combination. Sure, Judai can fuse the way the rest of us breathe, but Yugi and Yuusei will manage just fine.

If Yuusei needs to have a Polymerisation of his own in Deck, he can, theoretically, borrow Jacks beforehand. Alternately, Saviour Dragon + Egyptian God = Lolz.

Originally Posted by Prismamaster

I don't think that it will be a contact fusion.I think that Judai will activate super polymerization and fuse the 3 monsters.

Or that... *shrug* I mainly suggested Contact Fusion because of Neos.

Originally Posted by Cassius335

One or two should be plenty, if we assume we're only going to get 1 Yugi-Yuusei combination. Sure, Judai can fuse the way the rest of us breathe, but Yugi and Yuusei will manage just fine.

If Yuusei needs to have a Polymerisation of his own in Deck, he can, theoretically, borrow Jacks beforehand. Alternately, Saviour Dragon + Egyptian God = Lolz.



Or that... *shrug* I mainly suggested Contact Fusion because of Neos.

Neos can only do contact fusion with the neo spacians.Yusei will not play polymerization.

I have a theorie, now we all know 5d's takes place in the year 2021(its date was in the 3rd opening) and zero reverse takes place 17 years before 5d's so that would make it the year 2004. but 2004 is also the same year yuki judai left duel academy and went off traveling. what if yuki judai died in the zero reverse incident and would pretty much explain why we don't ever hear about him in 5d's. ok when paradox steals yuseis stardust dragon and goes to gx times, there he fights yuki judai at the burning mansion but what if that is pegasus mansion and paradox went to gx time to kill him to test if somthing would change,thats what he said in the trailer and I quote paradox "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished". meaning he killed pegasus in gx to just to test what would happen and we all know judai is at the mansion as well, why we may ask, well if johan and o'brien could work for pegasus then so can judai. now in the trailer we see zero reverse happen meaning zero reverse will kill judai and it did but when yusei came to gx time and met judai and we all know for some reason judai knows what paradox is up to? how? oh wait he works for pegasus and he saw paradox kill him and judai failed to protect pegasus. so yusei and judai both go to the time slip to head to dm timeline but before they enter yusei see's zero reverse happen, yusei then goes in the time slip quickly with judai and head to dm timeline. now since yuki judai is in dm timeline, he was not killed in zero reverse because he is in the past meaning thanks to yusei/paradox/ judai was saved and now is alive and well in 5d's(in the future of course)

so yea I hope my theorie helped answer alot of your questions,and sorry about my english, i'm french

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

I have a theorie, now we all know 5d's takes place in the year 2021(its date was in the 3rd opening) and zero reverse takers place 17 years before 5d's so that would make it the year 2004 when zero reverse happend but 2004 is also the same year yuki judai left duel academy and went off traveling. what if yuki judai died in the zero reverse incident and would pretty much explain why we don't ever hear about him in 5d's. ok when paradox steals yuseis stardust dragon and goes to gx times, there he fights yuki judai at the burning mansion but what if that is pegasus mansion and paradox went to gx time to kill him to test if somthing would change,thats what he said in the trailer and I quote paradox "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished". meaning he killed pegasus in gx to just to test what would happen and we all know judai is at the mansion as well, why we may ask, well if johan and o'brien could work for pegasus then so can judai. now in the trailer we see zero reverse happen meaning zero reverse will kill judai and it did but when yusei came to gx time and met judai and we all know for some reason judai knows what paradox is up to? how? oh wait he works for pegasus and he saw paradox kill him and judai failed to protect pegasus. so yusei and judai both go to the time slip to head to dm timeline but before they enter yusei see's zero reverse happen, yusei then goes in the time slip quickly with judai and head to dm timeline. now since yuki judai is in dm timeline, he was not killed in zero reverse because he is in the past meaning thanks to yusei/paradox/ judai was saved and now is alive and well in 5d's(in the future of course)

so yea I hope my theorie helped answer alot of your questions,and sorry about my english, i'm french

Your idea is interesting but very complicated. I'm not sure to understand all. But in timeline it isn't possible. Arynis had stated that Judai starts his studies in 2004 and finished them in 2007. I thought the same thing when I saw for the first time Arynis's timeline. You said Paradox kill Pegasus in Judai's timeline. There a problem: Duel Monsters is already created at this time. And Yugi ? What is his role ? He is excluded.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

"iku zo" = "Let's go[!]"

Ehhhh...my mistake.

Originally Posted by ChibiYuseiFudou

EDIT: Was I the only one that went 'WTF' when discovering that Paradox's seiyuu and the guy who sings the OP for the movie are the EXACT same people? o.o

Probably yes, cuz that's not something new.

Originally Posted by Allana

Your idea is interesting but very complicated. I'm not sure to understand all. But in timeline it isn't possible. Arynis had stated that Judai starts his studies in 2004 and finished them in 2007. I thought the same thing when I saw for the first time Arynis's timeline. You said Paradox kill Pegasus in Judai's timeline. There a problem: Duel Monsters is already created at this time. And Yugi ? What is his role ? He is excluded.

yes he killed him in gx to see if duel monsters would be deleted from the world, it was a test and now he is going to dm timeline to kill pegasus so duel monters wont exist at all

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

yes he killed him in gx to see if duel monsters would be deleted from the world, it was a test and now he is going to dm timeline to kill pegasus so duel monters wont exist at all

So, your idea is that Yugi is killed first by Paradox and there that Yusei and Judai to stop Paradox ?

Originally Posted by Allana

So, your idea is that Yugi is killed first by Paradox and there that Yusei and Judai to stop Paradox ?

no I said he killed pegasus in gx time, I never said anything about yugi

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

no I said he killed pegasus in gx time, I never said anything about yugi

Paradox kill Pegasus in GX's timeline and after Paradox returns in DM timeline to kill definitively Pegasus ??

Ummm...I don't know about you guys, but I have a headache after reading so long and detailed theories.
Every scene that was shown till now leads to this - theories, analyses and at the end, no confirmed info about the story.

ok this is my theorie. I will type it step by step

*yuki judai works for pegasus at his mansion(in gx time)

* zero reverse happens and kills both judai and pegasus.

*since paradox came to kill pegasus, he cant kill him in 5d's because he is dead

*so paradox goes to 17 years in the past where pegasus is still alive

*he kills pegasus and says "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished" meaning that paradox killed pegasus just to see if the future would change

*yuki judai then see's paradox kill pegasus, so they fight

*paradox then goes to dm time.

*yusei meets judai and judai explains Paradox's true intentions to yusei

*now zero reverse is to happen right about now

*but yusei and judai follow paradox to dm timeline before they are killed by zero reverse

*since judai is now in the past it means that the timeline changed and judai was not killed by zero reverse

*yusei therefore saved judai from being killed

*judai is now alive and well in the in the future due to yusei saving him in the past

3-D Movie Q & A (in japanese)
http://www.yugioh10th.com/diary/2009/12/

more screenshots
http://www.cinematoday.jp/movie/gallery/T0008190

Originally Posted by Lia

Ummm...I don't know about you guys, but I have a headache after reading so long and detailed theories.
Every scene that was shown till now leads to this - theories, analyses and at the end, no confirmed info about the story.

It's true. We speculate but finally we know nothing or at least little things in reality.

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

ok this is my theorie. I will type it step by step

*yuki judai works for pegasus at his mansion(in gx time)

* zero reverse happens and kills both judai and pegasus.

*since paradox came to kill pegasus, he cant kill him in 5d's because he is dead

*so paradox goes to 17 years in the past where pegasus is still alive

*he kills pegasus and says "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished" meaning that paradox killed pegasus just to see if the future would change

*yuki judai then see's paradox kill pegasus, so they fight

*paradox then goes to dm time.

*yusei meets judai and judai explains Paradox's true intentions to yusei

*now zero reverse is to happen right about now

*but yusei and judai follow paradox to dm timeline before they are killed by zero reverse

*since judai is now in the past it means that the timeline changed and judai was not killed by zero reverse

*yusei therefore saved judai from being killed

*judai is now alive and well in the in the future due to yusei saving him in the past

I understand ! Thanks darkininfernal to have explain again your idea !

So Paradox kill Pegasus twice ! Your idea is mainly to use differents timelines to explains the chronologic problem concerning the death of Pegasus.

Originally Posted by Allana

It's true. We speculate but finally we know nothing in reality.



I understand ! Thanks darkininfernal to have explain again your idea !

So Paradox kill Pegasus twice ! Your idea is mainly to use differents timelines to explains the chronologic problem concerning the death of Pegasus.

no problem

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

I have a theorie, now we all know 5d's takes place in the year 2021(its date was in the 3rd opening)

It was never explicitly stated as a date. It could be a store name, for all we know. The manga stated the date as 20XX, though.

If Judai would be killed in 2004, then GX wouldn't happen, which, well, doesn't make sense. Nor he could have the Power of Gentle Darkness or Yubel at his disposal in that case. Either Zero Reverse occurs sometime after GX's events (possibly at least a decade later), or a split after DM occurred, making 5D's an AU and leaving GX's period intact. (If we assume 5D's indeed occurs in 2021, in which case Zero Reverse and GX's events can happen simultaneously as the two periods are on different timeline branches.)

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

yes he killed him in gx to see if duel monsters would be deleted from the world, it was a test and now he is going to dm timeline to kill pegasus so duel monters wont exist at all

Hmm. But it would be a pointless test - killing Pegasus post-GX would yield the least amount of changes, or seeing how there's no mention of I2 in 5D's, no changes at all. And considering the very little information on Pegasus' past, he would destroy the only means of finding anything out, unless he can find something in the mansion... which, by this point, would be wrecked from the battle anyway.

If anything, killing the future Pegasus would make sure he has absolutely no way of intervening with Paradox killing his past self.

Still, your theory sounds pretty interesting. Unfortunately, it contradicts with what we know about the timeline.

Originally Posted by Lia

Ummm...I don't know about you guys, but I have a headache after reading so long and detailed theories.
Every scene that was shown till now leads to this - theories, analyses and at the end, no confirmed info about the story.

I like it personally - Yugioh isn't really something I see in-depth discussion for (as far as the story is concerned), so I welcome these discussions greatly.

The hyping will come up in the upcoming weeks, so who knows what will happen. Besides, the movie isn't far away - only four weeks to go!

cant wait to see that movie

Originally Posted by Arynis

I like it personally - Yugioh isn't really something I see in-depth discussion for (as far as the story is concerned), so I welcome these discussions greatly.

The hyping will come up in the upcoming weeks, so who knows what will happen. Besides, the movie isn't far away - only four weeks to go!

You're also right Arynis.

We know pratically nothing at the beginning. We know simply main plot. After, elements come add news informations. And after, new elements arrives... The link continue and we can speculate. At final, we know so little things ! We know main plot and elements in the film. It's so little compared to the entire film ! I speculate today in psychology on Paradox's personality according somes lines. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. I will wait and see.

I like create theories because I can share them. It's thanks to the main plot and theses elements that I can speculate. Create theories is an interesting exercise because we can create them in starting by little things. Certains theories will be exacts, other no. Thanks to the differets teasers, we learn a little more and we can speculate again and again ! It's the paradoxe of the speculation: we speculate and nothing confirms our ideas. But speculation open the door to the discussion, the suppositions, persons are agrees with a speculation, others not...

Originally Posted by Allana

It's possible and this idea is interesting but the scene where Paradox say the word "kimi" seems came from the beginning, when he arrives in Yugi's time. I think this because the background of the scene and the fact he pronunces "Duel Monsters" in his line. I suppose that in this scene, he explains the reasons of his actions. At this time, It's Light Paradox who talks: his action is good, he wants save the world. It's why he is so quiet. He will realzes a good action. After, Yugi, Judai and Yusei realizes the consequences of his speech. Yusei talk him that If he wants to sucess, he must fight himself, Yugi and Judai. At this moment, Paradox must fight. He is obliged to fight. So, he take the mask and Dark Paradox arrives: he can't leave Yugi, Yusei and Judai prevent his good action. And, the duel starts.

I suppose that Paradox split personnality is like two face of the same person. Light Paradox is good, he acts for everyone. His polite speech exprims this: he is a good person who shows respect and politeness at everyone. Dark Paradox is bad, he use a rude speech. His speech exprims his bad actions. Dark Paradox use all solutions for fight which is Psychics powers. They are so powerful that Neos must do a shield between Stardust Dragon attack's and Judai. Dark Paradox will be ready to kill with his Psychics powers to prevent Judai, Yusei and Yugi to stop him. Paradox knows his Psychics powers are powerful. Light Paradox, who acts good, must feel pain because he knows he hurts people. So, Dark Paradox must fight because Light Paradox can't realizes that he hurts people, that he steals dragon. When he must do bad actions, the mask arrives and Dark Paradox comes into the scene. It's unconcious. He wears the mask by a reflexe.

He shows his face before the duel, If I'm right about the moment of the scene. This don't mean that he reveals his real name. Just his face. I suppose that the revelation of his name came at the end. I don't think the writers reveals his name at the beginning: the suspense will be destroyed.

For Aki, It's different: she wears the mask for not think like Divine explains her. The mask prevent Aki to think at the consequences of his Psychics powers. It's her way to create another self: the one who don't think at the damage that her Psychics powers gives at the others duelists.

But Paradox and Aki has something in common: the pain. According to Divine, Psychic powers appears because of the pain. Consequently, his Psychic powers appears because his pain is become impossible to bear like Aki. They seems more developped, more powerful than Aki. Psychics powers seems be proportional at the pain. Paradox's pain must be immense.

Well you certainly make some good points. Although I personally would rather avoid a split personality since we have so many of those in the YGOverse already. But you explained your theory quite thoroughly and I can see it as a possibility. Only time will tell us.

Originally Posted by Cassius335

One or two should be plenty, if we assume we're only going to get 1 Yugi-Yuusei combination. Sure, Judai can fuse the way the rest of us breathe, but Yugi and Yuusei will manage just fine.

If Yuusei needs to have a Polymerisation of his own in Deck, he can, theoretically, borrow Jacks beforehand. Alternately, Saviour Dragon + Egyptian God = Lolz.



Or that... *shrug* I mainly suggested Contact Fusion because of Neos.

Well I wasn't inferring that the other two need to fuse or anything. I was talking more about the showcasing fused Monsters between the three.

I would piss my pants if they actually had a Savior God Card, lol.

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

I have a theorie, now we all know 5d's takes place in the year 2021(its date was in the 3rd opening) and zero reverse takes place 17 years before 5d's so that would make it the year 2004. but 2004 is also the same year yuki judai left duel academy and went off traveling. what if yuki judai died in the zero reverse incident and would pretty much explain why we don't ever hear about him in 5d's. ok when paradox steals yuseis stardust dragon and goes to gx times, there he fights yuki judai at the burning mansion but what if that is pegasus mansion and paradox went to gx time to kill him to test if somthing would change,thats what he said in the trailer and I quote paradox "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished". meaning he killed pegasus in gx to just to test what would happen and we all know judai is at the mansion as well, why we may ask, well if johan and o'brien could work for pegasus then so can judai. now in the trailer we see zero reverse happen meaning zero reverse will kill judai and it did but when yusei came to gx time and met judai and we all know for some reason judai knows what paradox is up to? how? oh wait he works for pegasus and he saw paradox kill him and judai failed to protect pegasus. so yusei and judai both go to the time slip to head to dm timeline but before they enter yusei see's zero reverse happen, yusei then goes in the time slip quickly with judai and head to dm timeline. now since yuki judai is in dm timeline, he was not killed in zero reverse because he is in the past meaning thanks to yusei/paradox/ judai was saved and now is alive and well in 5d's(in the future of course)

so yea I hope my theorie helped answer alot of your questions,and sorry about my english, i'm french

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

ok this is my theorie. I will type it step by step

*yuki judai works for pegasus at his mansion(in gx time)

* zero reverse happens and kills both judai and pegasus.

*since paradox came to kill pegasus, he cant kill him in 5d's because he is dead

*so paradox goes to 17 years in the past where pegasus is still alive

*he kills pegasus and says "with this,my grand experiment has been accomplished" meaning that paradox killed pegasus just to see if the future would change

*yuki judai then see's paradox kill pegasus, so they fight

*paradox then goes to dm time.

*yusei meets judai and judai explains Paradox's true intentions to yusei

*now zero reverse is to happen right about now

*but yusei and judai follow paradox to dm timeline before they are killed by zero reverse

*since judai is now in the past it means that the timeline changed and judai was not killed by zero reverse

*yusei therefore saved judai from being killed

*judai is now alive and well in the in the future due to yusei saving him in the past

I agree with Arynis on this. Don't get me wrong though, your theory also has some interesting points, some of which could have some truth to them. The only thing I doubt is Paradox killing Pegasus in the GX timeline. The only way he would really accomplish stopping Duel Monsters is by killing Pegasus before he created it. Unless he just couldn't travel back that far.

But I do like your theory of Judai being killed in Zero Reverse. That would be an interesting twist.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

Well you certainly make some good points. Although I personally would rather avoid a split personality since we have so many of those in the YGOverse already. But you explained your theory quite thoroughly and I can see it as a possibility. Only time will tell us.

I agree with Arynis on this. Don't get me wrong though, your theory also has some interesting points, some of which could have some truth to them. The only thing I doubt is Paradox killing Pegasus in the GX timeline. The only way he would really accomplish stopping Duel Monsters is by killing Pegasus before he created it. Unless he just couldn't travel back that far.

But I do like your theory of Judai being killed in Zero Reverse. That would be an interesting twist.

Thanks GoldenUmi.

Darkinfernal's idea is interesting, it manipulate several timelines and explains differents problems. It's true I had noticed somes problems but except this, It is interesting particularly in Zero Reverse's manipulation. It explains why Judai isn't mentionned or present in 5d's.

Zero Reverse is the real problem. We don't know who, among GX's and DM's characters, had survived and who is dead. Because we had no mention, we can suppose they are died. They can be stay alive but because we had no mention, we don't know.

Finally, we had in a standstill.

And as an exact opposite of what you guys are discussimg, I think how much I want The Egyptian Gods to make an appearance in that movie.

Originally Posted by Lia

And as an exact opposite of what you guys are discussimg, I think how much I want The Egyptian Gods to make an appearance in that movie.

I imagine yugi using osiris, but as for the other 2..... meh you never know

Originally Posted by Prismamaster

Neos can only do contact fusion with the neo spacians.

So far...

Originally Posted by Prismamaster

Yusei will not play polymerization.

The only reason he hasn't used it before is because because the writers haven't given him a Fusion monster yet. Yuusei can always put Polymerisation in his deck if the writers are planning to have him fuse one of his monsters with one of Yugi's.

Judai will probably play magma neos,flame wingman,chaos neos,,neos wiseman,and some new fusions.

Yusei will probably play junk warrior,nitro warrior,armory arm,turret warrior,and such.

Yusei won't play polymerization.He's a synchro guy.

Originally Posted by Prismamaster

Yusei won't play polymerization.He's a synchro guy.

Jack's Multi-Piece Golem would like a word with you.

Jack can play polymerization.Yusei can't.I just don't think that yusei will play polymerization.It's not his style.

Originally Posted by Prismamaster

Jack can play polymerization.Yusei can't.I just don't think that yusei will play polymerization.It's not his style.

As said, there's no reason Yusei can't or won't, except lack of an appropriate Fusion monster, something that can easily be provided by the writers.

EDIT: 150 posts. Finally...

Let's see, Judai has Neos, a magical monster that can create fusions with anything, now, what does Yusei have that can magically Synchro with anything...?

The thing with Synchros is that you can use any monster to summon something completely different, but Savior Dragon upgrades any monster. There's no need for Yusei to use Polymerization.

Originally Posted by Lia

And as an exact opposite of what you guys are discussimg, I think how much I want The Egyptian Gods to make an appearance in that movie.

Yeah, I would like them to appear, so long as they don't pull some weird fusion of the god cards again. It was a little cool in PoL, but it wouldn't be cool a second time.

anymore news yet ppls?

Not really. We're just throwing a bunch of theories out in the open.
Though, what are the odds of Yami No Yuugi/Yuugi having the God cards? /is thinking it might be zero

Originally Posted by ChibiYuseiFudou

Not really. We're just throwing a bunch of theories out in the open.
Though, what are the odds of Yami No Yuugi/Yuugi having the God cards? /is thinking it might be zero

Well, odds are that Yusei and Judai'll be timewarped to a period in Yugi's era where he still had them, since we've seen Atem with him, and we all know where he went and what happened to the God cards at the end of DM. They did it with GX, after all, so I could see them doing it here. Not to mention, having Osiris and Ra around helps out the dragon fetish going on lately...

Atem has the god cards, and he will use them, that much is expected. Judai will use a powerful Neos fusion, we can also expect that. But what will Yusei use that is so good, as Stardust is corrupt?

Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99

Well, odds are that Yusei and Judai'll be timewarped to a period in Yugi's era where he still had them, since we've seen Atem with him, and we all know where he went and what happened to the God cards at the end of DM. They did it with GX, after all, so I could see them doing it here. Not to mention, having Osiris and Ra around helps out the dragon fetish going on lately...

But then again, it could very well happen that Yugi will be time warped to Yusei's time during the time he obtained the God cards. The Zero

Originally Posted by Allana

Zero Reverse is the real problem. We don't know who, among GX's and DM's characters, had survived and who is dead. Because we had no mention, we can suppose they are died. They can be stay alive but because we had no mention, we don't know.

Zero reverse doesn't matter because we're dealing with time warps and such. Yugi could be time warped during the time he obtained the God cards while Judai, during the end of GX which is before Zero Reverse.

If this would be the case, it would turn out that Paradox is a living creature who wants his life to end to atone for the sins he made.

Originally Posted by Beejay1231

Zero reverse doesn't matter because we're dealing with time warps and such. Yugi could be time warped during the time he obtained the God cards while Judai, during the end of GX which is before Zero Reverse.

If this would be the case, it would turn out that Paradox is a living creature who wants his life to end to atone for the sins he made.

Yes but we don't know what are become Judai and Yugi in the future. Paradox wants save the future. He wants create the hope. You think that he will be responsible of the future ruined by one of his actions ?

2chan post 878

『makemagic』
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言いたいことが言えなくて　(???)　変わりたいのに変われない　虚しい　(???)

(サビ)さぁ勇気を出して　希望を持って　過去を捨てて未来拾って　
手を取り合って　励ましあって　光を思いのまま操ってみないか?

不安な夜は一人きり　寂しい　さ　さ　寂しい　怖くて一歩踏み出せない　(???)
何もせずに　ここで待つの?　変われるはずさ　輝くmakeをしてあげる

(サビ)きめ細かな肌　綺麗なリップ　とろけるようなキュートな瞳
きらめくネイル　髪を飾って　綺麗に仕上がった君…　抱きしめてもいいか?

なりたい自分になれない　(???)　マイナス思考止まらない　(???)
信じること諦めるの?　強くなれるさ　魔法のmakeを君にしてあげる

(サビ)シルクののような肌　艶やかリップ　果実のような甘い匂い
目元にパール　小悪魔ウエーブ　綺麗に仕上がった君　抱きしめてもいいか?

(間奏&よくわからないごつい声の英語)

きめ細かな肌　綺麗なリップ　とろけるようなキュートな瞳
きらめくネイル　髪を飾って　綺麗に仕上がった君　抱きしめたい

(サビ)シルクのような肌　艶やかリップ　果実のような甘い匂い
目元にパール　小悪魔ウエーブ　綺麗に仕上がった君　抱きしめてもいいか?

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(???)の部分は英語っぽいしなんか聞き取りづらかったからスマン
それ以外の?はそのまんまの意味。

なんかとても遊戯王の主題歌に聞こえないぞ…

I think they tried to write down the lyrics for makemagic, from what we could hear of the song in the trailers/other videos. I was actually wondering about them, since the lyrics are connected to the movie's events.

I observed the lyrics with a translator. There's a bit about throwing away the past (Paradox destroying the past?), the future, loneliness, and, well...

(Rust) cute eyes and beautiful skin like fine-grained melt-lip
You finished in sparkling nail hair adorned with beautiful ... Can I hug you?

(CHORUS) Sweet smell like fruit or lip gloss or silk-like skin
Can I hug you finished in the beautiful Pearl Wave goblin's eyes?

Sooo... who wants to hug who? :V

Originally Posted by Arynis

(Rust) cute eyes and beautiful skin like fine-grained melt-lip
You finished in sparkling nail hair adorned with beautiful ... Can I hug you?

(CHORUS) Sweet smell like fruit or lip gloss or silk-like skin
Can I hug you finished in the beautiful Pearl Wave goblin's eyes?

It's strange. All lyrics talks about Paradox ? Or maybe these lyrics talked about someone else ?

Originally Posted by Allana

It's strange. All lyrics talks about Paradox ? Or maybe these lyrics talked about someone other ?

Well, that part of the lyrics (providing the machine translation is somewhat accurate) sounds somewhat romantic. As if Yugioh didn't have enough Ho Yay already... XD

I'm not sure who are the lyrics referring to. I only know the lyrics is connected to the movie. While it is Paradox's VA singing the song, I don't think that necessarily means Paradox is the one singing... It can't be determined until we have an accurate translation of the above lyrics or we have the full lyrics at our disposal.