Thread: Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Special

Originally Posted by Arynis

Well, that part of the lyrics (providing the machine translation is somewhat accurate) sounds somewhat romantic. As if Yugioh didn't have enough Ho Yay already... XD

I'm not sure who are the lyrics referring to. I only know the lyrics is connected to the movie. While it is Paradox's VA singing the song, I don't think that necessarily means Paradox is the one singing... It can't be determined until we have an accurate translation of the above lyrics or we have the full lyrics at our disposal.

Yes, It's true. I the impression that the lyrics evocates a man who loves a woman. Like someone who wants see someone else for the last time.

Originally Posted by Allana

Yes, It's true. I the impression that the lyrics evocates a man who loves a woman. Like someone who wants see someone else for the last time.

It would make sense. After all, the trailer and the song puts emphasis on the world's fate, as well.

The issue is the lack of female-male relationships in the series, though... unless Paradox has a love interest somewhere. (*snerk* Save the world and the girl who died because of the destruction in the future!) But honestly, I doubt that would be likely.

Also:

http://yugioh5ds-world.net/article/136725889.html

Yugioh 5D's World wrote down the script/summary of the Ene! broadcast. The broadcast contained an introduction to the series, an introduction to the movie (basic story summary from the official site). The VA's messages don't contain anything new, although Atsushi said Paradox would use an awesome monster, the most powerful card in history. (Or most powerful enemy?) This implies that his signature card might be a monster after all, which may also be the monster in the middle in the movie card chart. Or he might go the Pegasus route - Pegasus' signature card was Toon World, but his other big card was Relinquished. Paradox's signature card could be still Sin World, with his "awesome monster" being his other big card.

Originally Posted by Arynis

It would make sense. After all, the trailer and the song puts emphasis on the world's fate, as well.

The issue is the lack of female-male relationships in the series, though... unless Paradox has a love interest somewhere. (*snerk* Save the world and the girl who died because of the destruction in the future!) But honestly, I doubt that would be likely.

Also:

http://yugioh5ds-world.net/article/136725889.html

Yugioh 5D's World wrote down the script/summary of the Ene! broadcast. The broadcast contained an introduction to the series, an introduction to the movie (basic story summary from the official site). The VA's messages don't contain anything new, although Atsushi said Paradox would use an awesome monster, the most powerful card in history. (Or most powerful enemy?) This implies that his signature card might be a monster after all, which may also be the monster in the middle in the movie card chart. Or he might go the Pegasus route - Pegasus' signature card was Toon World, but his other big card was Relinquished. Paradox's signature card could be still Sin World, with his "awesome monster" being his other big card.

It's true Paradox don't seems have a love relationship but these lyrics evocates this sense.

Atsushi Tamura evocates an awesome monster. I bet It's the monster who is represented on his D-Wheel. I bet It's a dragon, like all his Sin Monsters shown.

Originally Posted by Allana

It's true Paradox don't seems have a love relationship but these lyrics evocates this sense.

Atsushi Tamura evocates an awesome monster. I bet It's the monster who is represented on his D-Wheel. I bet It's a dragon, like all his Sin Monsters shown.

I can picture his dragon being somthing like, sin paradox dragon?

Originally Posted by darkinfernal

I can picture his dragon being somthing like, sin paradox dragon?

I don't believe that this monster is a Sin monster. I imagine that this monster is a dragon who represents the light because his apparence and particularly his color. He is white and it contrast with the personnality of his owner. For the name, I don't know. I imagine a name which represents the light.

Originally Posted by Allana

I don't believe that this monster is a Sin monster. I imagine that this monster is a dragon who represents the light because his apparence and particularly his color. He is white and it contrast with the personnality of his owner. For the name, I don't know. I imagine a name which represents the light.

Virtue Dragon, perhaps? Virtue is the opposite of Sin, after all.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Virtue Dragon, perhaps? Virtue is the opposite of Sin, after all.

It's interesting when I think at Paradox's personality. Only... It sounds me strange. This dragon think me at word "Light" and "Silver". I imagine a name like "Light Dragon" or "Silver dragon".

Why I think this ? I don't know myself.

Originally Posted by Allana

It's interesting when I think at Paradox's personality. Only... It sounds me strange. This dragon think me at word "Light" and "Silver". I imagine a name like "Light Dragon" or "Silver dragon".

Why I think this ? I don't know myself.

I can see what you mean by that. However, Light Dragon isn't a possible choice because there's already a Light End Dragon.

The D-Wheel could be simply a representation for his deck, like how some people had special Duel Disks. Sherry has her horse D-Wheel, for instance. It could be merely a design choice, in the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DXHgDES_Qw

3:11 - 3:20
You can hear Paradox faintly talking in the background. I wonder what he's saying?

Is this possible that Paradox is possesed by the Darkness and the Light of Destrucion(Ruin)?
Or this is a new kind of power?

Originally Posted by JunkWarrior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DXHgDES_Qw

3:11 - 3:20
You can hear Paradox faintly talking in the background. I wonder what he's saying?

The only thing I can make out is "[...] Sonna koto... [...] ...Fudo Yusei! Watashi kara... [...]" ("Such a thing... [...] ...Yusei Fudo! I'm saying...")

At 3:33 I can hear him say "Shoukan" or "Summon".

Originally Posted by J_BYYX

Is this possible that Paradox is possesed by the Darkness and the Light of Destrucion(Ruin)?
Or this is a new kind of power?

That is a theory, yeah. Darkness represents the despair of humanity, while Light of Destruction is an entity capable of brainwashing which wanted to destroy everything. If the two combined somehow or possessed Paradox at the same time, it would result in what Paradox's goal appears to be. A man, who in his despair after realizing the world would be destroyed, goes back in time to destroy the past, thus destroying everything, believing he might save the future.

The power could be a side-effect of the possession, kind of like how Fujiwara was able to toy with Fubuki during their duel (although I might be wrong). One of the V-Jump articles stated that Paradox has the ability to transform the stolen monsters into Sin monsters, however.

Originally Posted by JunkWarrior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DXHgDES_Qw

3:11 - 3:20
You can hear Paradox faintly talking in the background. I wonder what he's saying?

It's really hard to make out through the other talking, but I listened closely. He is essentially telling the three that he wants to beat the three of them and test the potential of their legendary powers. In the second clip, even harder to make out, from what I could hear he appears to be arguing with them about the future he witnessed.

Ah and Allana, after seeing the clip again I would have to disagree that he is talking politely to the three. While he does use the form "kimi", his tone of voice is that of mocking and arrogance. It sounds more like he is speaking polite on purpose in order to look down on them. But still, that's only my opinion. We will have to see the full scene to understand.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I can see what you mean by that. However, Light Dragon isn't a possible choice because there's already a Light End Dragon.

The D-Wheel could be simply a representation for his deck, like how some people had special Duel Disks. Sherry has her horse D-Wheel, for instance. It could be merely a design choice, in the end.

Yes, It's possible but Sherry's D-Wheel represents a horse because she like the speed.

In Paradox's case, his D-Wheel seems represents the light because his color. Paradox's D-Wheel seems me be like an artwork, like something he cares by his apparence. Someone who don't like cards and riding Duel would have build something like that ? I think not.

Again a paradoxe.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

It's really hard to make out through the other talking, but I listened closely. He is essentially telling the three that he wants to beat the three of them and test the potential of their legendary powers. In the second clip, even harder to make out, from what I could hear he appears to be arguing with them about the future he witnessed.

Ah and Allana, after seeing the clip again I would have to disagree that he is talking politely to the three. While he does use the form "kimi", his tone of voice is that of mocking and arrogance. It sounds more like he is speaking polite on purpose in order to look down on them. But still, that's only my opinion. We will have to see the full scene to understand.

Is that so? Interesting. Didn't someone (EvilAzn, I think?) say earlier in this thread that Paradox might be actually testing the protagonists?

Perhaps that's what "With this, my grand experiment has been accomplished." is referring to. He tested the powers of the three duelists with a success, seeing how he seems to laugh about it.

That's an interesting interpretation. In that case, it's not too far from "omae"... heh.

Originally Posted by Allana

Yes, It's possible but Sherry's D-Wheel represents a horse because she like the speed.

In Paradox's case, his D-Wheel seems represents the light because his color. Paradox's D-Wheel seems me be like an artwork, like something he cares by his apparence. Someone who don't like cards and riding Duel would have build something like that ? I think not.

Again a paradoxe.

Hmm, good point. Well, in that case, let's take a look at Paradox's D-Wheel and clothing... let's take a look at Paradox from a Trope view!

According to Color Coded For Your Convenience:

Good Guys:

[The sad half of Paradox's mask, his skirtcoat, his D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] White and off-white - The Hero, The Messiah, Staff Chick

Bad Guys:

[His shirt/chestplate?] Bloody Red - Ax Crazy
[His pants] Dark Blue - a favorite of evil Chessmasters and Aristocrats.
[His D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] Silver
[His D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] All white - A hint of madness, religious zealotry, or a church that oversteps its bounds. Also, due to Asian cultures associating white with death as mentioned above, characters who dress all or mostly in white or have white hair are often strongly associated with death, the supernatural, etc.

Neutral Guys/Transition colours:

[Paradox's mask] Black and White in equal amounts (see also: referees)
[His "Sin hair lock" is grey-dark grey instead of black and white] Light Grey (black and white; neutrals, transitions)

You can also find spikes on his bracelets/shoes, which may or may not qualify for Spikes Of Villainy. According to Atsushi Tamura's comment on Paradox, he may also be a Yangire.

Originally Posted by Atsushi Tamura

“Now that we’ve finished adding audio to the movie, I think the kids will see that the ‘cute guy’ really turns out to be a scary character.”

He also has blond hair.

His goal likely puts him in the Well Intentioned Extremist category, too.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

It's really hard to make out through the other talking, but I listened closely. He is essentially telling the three that he wants to beat the three of them and test the potential of their legendary powers. In the second clip, even harder to make out, from what I could hear he appears to be arguing with them about the future he witnessed.

Ah and Allana, after seeing the clip again I would have to disagree that he is talking politely to the three. While he does use the form "kimi", his tone of voice is that of mocking and arrogance. It sounds more like he is speaking polite on purpose in order to look down on them. But still, that's only my opinion. We will have to see the full scene to understand.

I listen again the scene and execept the scene when he say "Duel Monsters" and "Kimi" I hear pratically nothing. Just some word who ressemble at something like "sonna kotto" Sorry, I don't know write Japanese. GoldenUmi, you have a keen hearing. In the scene when he said "kimi" Paradox seems to be cocky. Arrogant ? Possible particularly If he is sure to win.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Good Guys:

[The sad half of Paradox's mask, his skirtcoat, his D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] White and off-white - The Hero, The Messiah, Staff Chick

Bad Guys:

[His shirt/chestplate?] Bloody Red - Ax Crazy
[His pants] Dark Blue - a favorite of evil Chessmasters and Aristocrats.
[His D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] Silver
[His D-Wheel, depending on how you look at it] All white - A hint of madness, religious zealotry, or a church that oversteps its bounds. Also, due to Asian cultures associating white with death as mentioned above, characters who dress all or mostly in white or have white hair are often strongly associated with death, the supernatural, etc.

Neutral Guys/Transition colours:

[Paradox's mask] Black and White in equal amounts (see also: referees)
[His "Sin hair lock" is grey-dark grey instead of black and white] Light Grey (black and white; neutrals, transitions)

I didn't know that the white is the color of the death in Asia. It means also the color of the innocence ?

Thanks to Atsushi Tamura, Paradox is officially a good person who become a bad person. His bacground story will be revealed in the movie.

Originally Posted by Allana

I didn't know that the white is the color of the death in Asia. It means also the color of the innocence ?

Thanks to Atsushi Tamura, Paradox is officially a good person who become a bad person. His bacground story will be revealed in the movie.

In the West, white stands for purity and innocence, yes.

Actually, he either means Paradox is indeed a Yangire - seemingly adorable person who is actually insane deep inside. (Think of Pegasus, sort of: He's childish and harmless on the surface, but plain twisted and insane deep inside.) Or Paradox is just a scary, frightening person, with the "cute guy" description just coming from people looking at his promotional picture and simply going "Aw he's adorable!".

Originally Posted by Arynis

In the West, white stands for purity and innocence, yes.

Actually, he either means Paradox is indeed a Yangire - seemingly adorable person who is actually insane deep inside. (Think of Pegasus, sort of: He's childish and harmless on the surface, but plain twisted and insane deep inside.) Or Paradox is just a scary, frightening person, with the "cute guy" description just coming from people looking at his promotional picture and simply going "Aw he's adorable!".

The white two in same time. Thanks Arynis.

I prefer the first possibility. I don't like the second.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Is that so? Interesting. Didn't someone (EvilAzn, I think?) say earlier in this thread that Paradox might be actually testing the protagonists?

Perhaps that's what "With this, my grand experiment has been accomplished." is referring to. He tested the powers of the three duelists with a success, seeing how he seems to laugh about it.

That's an interesting interpretation. In that case, it's not too far from "omae"... heh.

Originally Posted by Allana

I listen again the scene and execept the scene when he say "Duel Monsters" and "Kimi" I hear pratically nothing. Just some word who ressemble at something like "sonna kotto" Sorry, I don't know write Japanese. GoldenUmi, you have a keen hearing. In the scene when he said "kimi" Paradox seems to be cocky. Arrogant ? Possible particularly If he is sure to win.

I don't want anyone to think I am a fluent Japanese speaker, because I'm far from it. The only saving grace I have when it comes to subbing is that I have a darn good ear and a fairly wide vocabulary, but that doesn't mean I'm always right. Certainly Horoko would be able to pick up on more things than me.

As I said, it's still extremely hard to make out, even with my good ear. I am going to download the trailer off Youtube and listen to it more closely on my PC so I can rewind it easier. I'll try and write down the words I make out and look them up.

EDIT: Okay, I was definitely wrong about the first line, as I can hear it much more clearly as an MP4 file. The first line is said without any voice over, although it appears to actually be pieces of two different lines combined into one. As for the second line, I just can't make out much, even with my headphones on max.

Line 1: I am having trouble with the word he uses (shinjiryoku). "jiryoku" means "magnetism"/"magnetic force" literally. If you ask me, it sounds like he's insulting the three by saying they're sticking to one another like magnets, although I can't be certain if I can't find the full word. He then proceeds to say "I will thoroughly crush you in Duel Monsters" (The first term he uses actually literally means "mincemeat" and the second word means "to crush".) So you can interpret that as you like, but the meaning is pretty much the same.

His second line appears to be more angry. It sounds to me like he is telling them not to be so full of themselves or something to that effect. He then proceeds to start talking about the future. That's about all I can grasp. Perhaps he is blaming them for the downfall of civilization in the future somehow.

Hopefully we will get at least one more trailer that will show a little more.

any news? pllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

Originally Posted by Volroc

any news? pllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

Dude, if there was any news it would be posted. Don't spam.

I don't know if this has been said already or not. But if it has, then forgive me.

Apparently, to be a main character in Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary, your seiyuu has to have sung something or be in a band of some sort.

Kazama Shunsuke - A singer
KENN - Sang 'Wake Up Your Heart' with Nabs.
Yuya Miyashita - Sang 'Run & Gun', the ending for Sonic X
Atsushi Tamura - The main singer for jealkb and sings the OP theme for the 3D Movie

I find this to be a scary coincidence.

Originally Posted by ChibiYuseiFudou

I don't know if this has been said already or not. But if it has, then forgive me.

Apparently, to be a main character in Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary, your seiyuu has to have sung something or be in a band of some sort.

Kazama Shunsuke - A singer
KENN - Sang 'Wake Up Your Heart' with Nabs.
Yuya Miyashita - Sang 'Run & Gun', the ending for Sonic X
Atsushi Tamura - The main singer for jealkb and sings the OP theme for the 3D Movie

I find this to be a scary coincidence.

But Atsushi recently joined that band, and before, he made Hiruma of Eyeshield 21.
And wasn't Run&Gun the name of the band Miyashita sings in?

Yeah. But, still. Atsushi's still singing something. (The theme of the only YGO related thing he's in so far, no less.)

And yup. My mistake. "Mi-Ra-I" by Run&Gun. But, I've read somewhere that Yuya-san sang that first ending for Sonic X, along with the rest of the members of Run&Gun. I know at least that much.

Originally Posted by ChibiYuseiFudou

I don't know if this has been said already or not. But if it has, then forgive me.

Apparently, to be a main character in Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary, your seiyuu has to have sung something or be in a band of some sort.

Kazama Shunsuke - A singer
KENN - Sang 'Wake Up Your Heart' with Nabs.
Yuya Miyashita - Sang 'Run & Gun', the ending for Sonic X
Atsushi Tamura - The main singer for jealkb and sings the OP theme for the 3D Movie

I find this to be a scary coincidence.

Not that scary of a coincidence when you realize that it's common for voice actors to be singers as well as actors. It's not that surprising, really. We have a lot of English VA's who are singers as well(Paul McCartney as Roxas in KH2, etc.) including some of the 4Kids actors. Some VA's tend to be ex-comedians too, Atsushi Tamura is an example, and Jaden's dub VA is another.

Originally Posted by NeoKING

Not that scary of a coincidence when you realize that it's common for voice actors to be singers as well as actors. It's not that surprising, really. We have a lot of English VA's who are singers as well(Paul McCartney as Roxas in KH2, etc.) including some of the 4Kids actors. Some VA's tend to be ex-comedians too, Atsushi Tamura is an example, and Jaden's dub VA is another.

You mean JESSE McCartney^^;;. And you're right, in order to have the set of pipes that they do, it's not surprising that some voice actors go through singing in order to practice.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

Dude, if there was any news it would be posted. Don't spam.

its not spam, you guys are speculatin so much its kinda hard to tell wats news& wat isnt

i want news, not a bunch a theories thatll end up bein wrong lol

im excited bout the movies, and we know yugi is gonna whoop ass XD

Originally Posted by Volroc

its not spam, you guys are speculatin so much its kinda hard to tell wats news& wat isnt

If there was any news, it would've been posted already. Arynis would've said if it was news or if it was one of his theories. You'll just have to patient.

Originally Posted by Volroc

i want news, not a bunch a theories thatll end up bein wrong lol

Let them speculate, it's not doing any harm.

Originally Posted by Volroc

im excited bout the movies, and we know yugi is gonna whoop ass XD

While some people know that Yugi will probably take a backseat while Judai & Yusei do all the work.

So I know someone probably asked this.
But what is that Neo's Preview Monster?

And what is the chance's of *******s appearing for this the night its released?

xD

Originally Posted by TheWhiteRose

So I know someone probably asked this.
But what is that Neo's Preview Monster?

And what is the chance's of *******s appearing for this the night its released?

xD

We don't know the official name of this monster. He was just shown in preview before the beginning of the episode of the week.

I hope when it comes to the US.
We get kinda a "Exclusive" pack like we did for the Pyramid of Light.
Wasn't that good of a Movie, but none the less good idea for a pack.

DX
Mind you I hope if we get promo cards at the movie theater that we don't get like 1 card per entry.

A "Exclusive" pack per entry would be nice.

Originally Posted by Volroc

its not spam, you guys are speculatin so much its kinda hard to tell wats news& wat isnt

i want news, not a bunch a theories thatll end up bein wrong lol

im excited bout the movies, and we know yugi is gonna whoop ass XD

So... what, should we just sit around and twiddle our thumbs until more news is posted? Just relax and join on on the theories. It makes things more interesting and helps make the wait less annoying.

FYI, anything that is true news will usually include a link to an article or pics, or both. Usually posted by LeRat, Arynis, Horoko and a few others. You can easily tell when some new news pops up.

Originally Posted by TheWhiteRose

And what is the chance's of *******s appearing for this the night its released?

xD

About 0%. Making a ****** for a crappy cam-raw would be utterly pointless. And that's assuming a camraw even comes out. Just ask one guy on the Arlong Parks forum who snuck a quick clip of the new One Piece movie. Trying to get away with that in Japan is literally risking your life.

But don't worry. Once the DVD comes out, I am quite certain Horoko will be doing it and probably others as well. Our group will, although I'm certain Horoko will have his done much faster. And I'll be purchasing the DVD, so I can provide for anyone who needs the raw when the time comes.

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

I don't want anyone to think I am a fluent Japanese speaker, because I'm far from it. The only saving grace I have when it comes to subbing is that I have a darn good ear and a fairly wide vocabulary, but that doesn't mean I'm always right. Certainly Horoko would be able to pick up on more things than me.

As I said, it's still extremely hard to make out, even with my good ear. I am going to download the trailer off Youtube and listen to it more closely on my PC so I can rewind it easier. I'll try and write down the words I make out and look them up.

EDIT: Okay, I was definitely wrong about the first line, as I can hear it much more clearly as an MP4 file. The first line is said without any voice over, although it appears to actually be pieces of two different lines combined into one. As for the second line, I just can't make out much, even with my headphones on max.

Line 1: I am having trouble with the word he uses (shinjiryoku). "jiryoku" means "magnetism"/"magnetic force" literally. If you ask me, it sounds like he's insulting the three by saying they're sticking to one another like magnets, although I can't be certain if I can't find the full word. He then proceeds to say "I will thoroughly crush you in Duel Monsters" (The first term he uses actually literally means "mincemeat" and the second word means "to crush".) So you can interpret that as you like, but the meaning is pretty much the same.

His second line appears to be more angry. It sounds to me like he is telling them not to be so full of themselves or something to that effect. He then proceeds to start talking about the future. That's about all I can grasp. Perhaps he is blaming them for the downfall of civilization in the future somehow.

Hopefully we will get at least one more trailer that will show a little more.

Excellent! Thank you for the translation, GoldenUmi. :]

Paradox comes across as a fascinating individual. The video puts him in a shade of gray - from what we can hear from his speech, it appears as if the protagonists were the villains, not him. (Granted, the protagonists probably answered as well, such as Judai saying all that Paradox doing is destruction.) I'm curious how does their full argument play out.

Originally Posted by Volroc

its not spam, you guys are speculatin so much its kinda hard to tell wats news& wat isnt

i want news, not a bunch a theories thatll end up bein wrong lol

im excited bout the movies, and we know yugi is gonna whoop ass XD

As GoldenUmi said, it's pretty easy to tell if we post anything new.

For theories, you may never know if you are right or wrong. It's what adds excitement to this waiting period - you gather up your possibilities, discuss it with others and see if you were right or not. It's what makes a discussion. If there were no guessing, this thread would be pretty much empty, save for reactions to various news. That would be... dull.

But if you want to know when we can expect any news, take a look at this advertising schedule posted on 2chan (the one Lia posted previously):

Originally Posted by Lia

2ch.net - Posts № 789,790,791

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The closest event is the Anison Plus New Years Special. It is going to air at 2:10 AM - 3:40 AM on the 1st of January, Japan time. Now, the UTC time for this would be Thursday, 2009. December 31. 17:10:00 (5:10:00 PM). For USA Eastern Coast (New York), the date would be 2009. December 31. 12:10:00 (12:10:00 AM). Tune into Keyhole if you want to watch it, I'll try to rip it from there myself and upload it on Youtube. If you have a different timezone, use this site to calculate the correct time for yourself.

Of course, with one month to go until the movie, pretty much everything will hype it, as you can see in the advertising schedule. V-Jump and Shonen Jump will feature it as usual, Sakiyomi JumBANG! will feature the movie in their January 22nd broadcast. E-Morning will briefly feature the movie on the 18th of January, 9:59~10:03 AM Japan time.

The movie preview is scheduled on the 17th of January, which the Staff Diary will cover on the same day (apparently). The movie site will be also updated on the release day (23rd January), obviously.

Alternately, if anything happens, XYZ Dragon Cannon will immediately make a post on Newwise BBS. 2chan also posts useful information sometimes, as well as Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's World. Or if you're feeling adventurous, Google around with 劇場版 遊☆戯☆王 or 劇場版 遊戯王 with the Latest pages setting selected. You could find posts ranging from reactions and theories to interesting information such as this blog (which has a list of all the confirmed characters so far).

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

I don't want anyone to think I am a fluent Japanese speaker, because I'm far from it. The only saving grace I have when it comes to subbing is that I have a darn good ear and a fairly wide vocabulary, but that doesn't mean I'm always right. Certainly Horoko would be able to pick up on more things than me.

As I said, it's still extremely hard to make out, even with my good ear. I am going to download the trailer off Youtube and listen to it more closely on my PC so I can rewind it easier. I'll try and write down the words I make out and look them up.

EDIT: Okay, I was definitely wrong about the first line, as I can hear it much more clearly as an MP4 file. The first line is said without any voice over, although it appears to actually be pieces of two different lines combined into one. As for the second line, I just can't make out much, even with my headphones on max.

Line 1: I am having trouble with the word he uses (shinjiryoku). "jiryoku" means "magnetism"/"magnetic force" literally. If you ask me, it sounds like he's insulting the three by saying they're sticking to one another like magnets, although I can't be certain if I can't find the full word. He then proceeds to say "I will thoroughly crush you in Duel Monsters" (The first term he uses actually literally means "mincemeat" and the second word means "to crush".) So you can interpret that as you like, but the meaning is pretty much the same.

His second line appears to be more angry. It sounds to me like he is telling them not to be so full of themselves or something to that effect. He then proceeds to start talking about the future. That's about all I can grasp. Perhaps he is blaming them for the downfall of civilization in the future somehow.

Hopefully we will get at least one more trailer that will show a little more.

Thanks for the translation GoldenUmi.

A lot of news soon. Thanks a lot for the recapitulation, Arynis.

We will know If our theories are good or not. And my exams also...

Originally Posted by GoldenUmi

I don't want anyone to think I am a fluent Japanese speaker, because I'm far from it. The only saving grace I have when it comes to subbing is that I have a darn good ear and a fairly wide vocabulary, but that doesn't mean I'm always right. Certainly Horoko would be able to pick up on more things than me.

As I said, it's still extremely hard to make out, even with my good ear. I am going to download the trailer off Youtube and listen to it more closely on my PC so I can rewind it easier. I'll try and write down the words I make out and look them up.

EDIT: Okay, I was definitely wrong about the first line, as I can hear it much more clearly as an MP4 file. The first line is said without any voice over, although it appears to actually be pieces of two different lines combined into one. As for the second line, I just can't make out much, even with my headphones on max.

Line 1: I am having trouble with the word he uses (shinjiryoku). "jiryoku" means "magnetism"/"magnetic force" literally. If you ask me, it sounds like he's insulting the three by saying they're sticking to one another like magnets, although I can't be certain if I can't find the full word. He then proceeds to say "I will thoroughly crush you in Duel Monsters" (The first term he uses actually literally means "mincemeat" and the second word means "to crush".) So you can interpret that as you like, but the meaning is pretty much the same.

His second line appears to be more angry. It sounds to me like he is telling them not to be so full of themselves or something to that effect. He then proceeds to start talking about the future. That's about all I can grasp. Perhaps he is blaming them for the downfall of civilization in the future somehow.

Hopefully we will get at least one more trailer that will show a little more.

Thanks for the much more detailed translation. The anger Paradox feels to the three protagonists will only lead to very painful and in the same time really breathtaking scenes. I imagine how at the final everything will seem hopeless. Then the quotations from the trailer will come into force - friendship protects the world and dueling protects the future - as they will be cleverly inserted and completed in a remarkably beautiful scene with the 3 main characters.

Originally Posted by Nintendo_Ranger

While some people know that Yugi will probably take a backseat while Judai & Yusei do all the work.

Personally wouldn't dare to make such statements because neither we've seen the movie, nor we know with certainty what will happen. Whatever scenes we've seen so far by the movie, they say almost nothing about the plot for sure.

Originally Posted by Arynis

The closest event is the Anison Plus New Years Special. It is going to air at 2:10 AM - 3:40 AM on the 1st of January, Japan time. Now, the UTC time for this would be Thursday, 2009. December 31. 17:10:00 (5:10:00 PM). For USA Eastern Coast (New York), the date would be 2009. December 31. 12:10:00 (12:10:00 AM). Tune into Keyhole if you want to watch it, I'll try to rip it from there myself and upload it on Youtube. If you have a different timezone, use this site to calculate the correct time for yourself.

Of course, with one month to go until the movie, pretty much everything will hype it, as you can see in the advertising schedule. V-Jump and Shonen Jump will feature it as usual, Sakiyomi JumBANG! will feature the movie in their January 22nd broadcast. E-Morning will briefly feature the movie on the 18th of January, 9:59~10:03 AM Japan time.

The movie preview is scheduled on the 17th of January, which the Staff Diary will cover on the same day (apparently). The movie site will be also updated on the release day (23rd January), obviously.

Yes, it's really good we have this Movie schedule. At least we know what events connected with the 10th Anniversary Movie to expect through January. Along with this Specials, V-Jump will also air an extra info,more announcements and previews. In January we will be literally flooded with new information about the movie, which is quite encouraging and I hope that it will answer many questions.

I just had a thought. What if Paradox's name is not referring to his act of creating a temporal paradox, but is actually foreshadowing?

Maybe Paradox, during his struggle, inspired the protagonists and encouraged them to change the world. With Yugi being one of the most famous duelists, Judai possessing one of the most powerful powers in the universe, the Power of Gentle Darkness, and Yusei being one of the most known people in Neo Domino City, as well as possessing the power of the Crimson Dragon, it would be not impossible for them to influence the world, to push it in a different direction. So let's assume Paradox got a good beating from the trio, but didn't die or got punched out of space-time. The future would be saved and changed, but this would mean Paradox wasn't able to travel back in time and duel the three protagonists, so his existence in the past makes him a paradox, thus he disappears.

...But wait! This would make it impossible for him to travel back in time to change the past, meet the protagonists and change them, which would mean the future would be doomed anyway, allowing him to travel back in time. But this means he is able to influence the future through the protagonists, even though he shouldn't have been able to travel back in time because it became unnecessary, and so on. Yep, another grandfather paradox.

However, the consequences of this particular paradox isn't as huge as the elimination of Duel Monsters, in which case Paradox could simply disappear from history. Alternately, Paradox is removed from the timeline due to the consequences of his actions, the protagonists (and everyone else involved) would get hit with a Reset Button to preserve the remaining part of the timeline, but with the heroes keeping the knowledge they got from Paradox so they can go and make the future better. Paradox, through his actions, was able to indirectly save the future and indeed become a savior to his (now different) people, but he never existed, thus no one would know of him or what he did. It's a tragic fate, really.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I just had a thought. What if Paradox's name is not referring to his act of creating a temporal paradox, but is actually foreshadowing?

Maybe Paradox, during his struggle, inspired the protagonists and encouraged them to change the world. With Yugi being one of the most famous duelists, Judai possessing one of the most powerful powers in the universe, the Power of Gentle Darkness, and Yusei being one of the most known people in Neo Domino City, as well as possessing the power of the Crimson Dragon, it would be not impossible for them to influence the world, to push it in a different direction. So let's assume Paradox got a good beating from the trio, but didn't die or got punched out of space-time. The future would be saved and changed, but this would mean Paradox wasn't able to travel back in time and duel the three protagonists, so his existence in the past makes him a paradox, thus he disappears.

...But wait! This would make it impossible for him to travel back in time to change the past, meet the protagonists and change them, which would mean the future would be doomed anyway, allowing him to travel back in time. But this means he is able to influence the future through the protagonists, even though he shouldn't have been able to travel back in time because it became unnecessary, and so on. Yep, another grandfather paradox.

However, the consequences of this particular paradox isn't as huge as the elimination of Duel Monsters, in which case Paradox could simply disappear from history. Alternately, Paradox is removed from the timeline due to the consequences of his actions, the protagonists (and everyone else involved) would get hit with a Reset Button to preserve the remaining part of the timeline, but with the heroes keeping the knowledge they got from Paradox so they can go and make the future better. Paradox, through his actions, was able to indirectly save the future and indeed become a savior to his (now different) people, but he never existed, thus no one would know of him or what he did. It's a tragic fate, really.

An excellent idea Arynis. Perhaps even you had discovered the end of the film ? I prefer a good end for him. I hope Yugi, Yusei and Judai can help him and that Paradox can go somewhere where he will at least in peace with himself. Even the end of Dark Signer Arc was happy for all.

So, you think that Paradox will disappears and he will be forget by all except Yugi, Judai and Yusei ? It's a terrible end for someone. Paradox will be like a ghost at final. Someone who appears and disappears little time after he was appeared. And the paradoxe here is someone who exists but no one person know he exist. Paradox is someone who is completly alone.

The biggest fear of Fujiwara was that no one person remember of him. His biggest fear was in fact to become completly alone, with no one person who think at him.

This idea reminds me Atem. Except that several person hadn't forgot him. But History forgot him completly, even his name. His body is discovered but It's the body of a unknown.

Originally Posted by Allana

An excellent idea Arynis. Perhaps even you had discovered the end of the film ? I prefer a good end for him. I hope Yugi, Yusei and Judai can help him and that Paradox can go somewhere where he will at least in peace with himself. Even the end of Dark Signer Arc was happy for all.

So, you think that Paradox will disappears and he will be forget by all except Yugi, Judai and Yusei ? It's a terrible end for someone. Paradox will be like a ghost at final. Someone who appears and disappears little time after he was appeared. And the paradoxe here is someone who exists but no one person know he exist. Paradox is someone who is completly alone.

The biggest fear of Fujiwara was that no one person remember of him. His biggest fear was in fact to become completly alone, with no one person who think at him.

This idea reminds me Atem. Except that several person hadn't forgot him. But History forgot him completly, even his name. His body is discovered but It's the body of a unknown.

Personally I found the end of the Dark Signer arc kind of a cop out, but I see what you mean. Or perhaps the protagonists promise to Paradox they will protect the future before he disappears, so he can "die" peacefully knowing he had saved the future, that the future isn't hopeless anymore.

Yeah, kind of. Kaiba and the others wouldn't gain much from knowing about Paradox, unless said knowledge would get them to improve the future as well (Kaiba certainly could, with his theme park, technology and all his money) or the others could show a good example during the Pro Leagues? Post-GX Pegasus could benefit from the knowledge, but not pre-Millennium Eye Pegasus, who may find it too horrifying (thus would need to be hit with a Reset Button to forget about it). And yes, Paradox would be definitely alone - he would exist, yet not exist, stuck in this state thanks to the grandfather paradox, without being able to do anything about it.

As for Atem, him being forgotten and having his name removed may have been an attempt to keep the Dark Priest sealed away for eternity. But people wanted him back, back with them, in the Afterlife. Thus Atem was eventually revived, releasing the evil back into the world again as well.

Originally Posted by Allana

I prefer a good end for him. I hope Yugi, Yusei and Judai can help him and that Paradox can go somewhere where he will at least in peace with himself.

The 3 protagonists always seek good in their rivals' personality, so I'm sure the end for themselves and for Paradox will be happy.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Personally I found the end of the Dark Signer arc kind of a cop out, but I see what you mean. Or perhaps the protagonists promise to Paradox they will protect the future before he disappears, so he can "die" peacefully knowing he had saved the future, that the future isn't hopeless anymore.

Yeah, kind of. Kaiba and the others wouldn't gain much from knowing about Paradox, unless said knowledge would get them to improve the future as well (Kaiba certainly could, with his theme park, technology and all his money) or the others could show a good example during the Pro Leagues? Post-GX Pegasus could benefit from the knowledge, but not pre-Millennium Eye Pegasus, who may find it too horrifying (thus would need to be hit with a Reset Button to forget about it). And yes, Paradox would be definitely alone - he would exist, yet not exist, stuck in this state thanks to the grandfather paradox, without being able to do anything about it.

As for Atem, him being forgotten and having his name removed may have been an attempt to keep the Dark Priest sealed away for eternity. But people wanted him back, back with them, in the Afterlife. Thus Atem was eventually revived, releasing the evil back into the world again as well.

Originally Posted by Lia

The 3 protagonists always seek good in their rivals' personality, so I'm sure the end for themselves and for Paradox will be happy.

Generally, in Yu-Gi-Oh, the vilain become a good person, like he was before he become a bad person. Tragedy is always the event which become him a bad person. So, even It's the movie, I suppose the end will be the same. I hope the end will be like this.

I noticed that only the very bad vilain dies. Only the one who has no light in him. Zork.

It's certain all characters will know more things that before. Maybe Paradox has knowledge of Millenium Objects, Light of Destruction and Crimson Dragon ? It's possible: he know how travel across the time and space.

You're right: Atem is searching and loving by differents person across the time and space. By the Priest, Mana and after by Anzu, Yugi.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I just had a thought. What if Paradox's name is not referring to his act of creating a temporal paradox, but is actually foreshadowing?

Maybe Paradox, during his struggle, inspired the protagonists and encouraged them to change the world. With Yugi being one of the most famous duelists, Judai possessing one of the most powerful powers in the universe, the Power of Gentle Darkness, and Yusei being one of the most known people in Neo Domino City, as well as possessing the power of the Crimson Dragon, it would be not impossible for them to influence the world, to push it in a different direction. So let's assume Paradox got a good beating from the trio, but didn't die or got punched out of space-time. The future would be saved and changed, but this would mean Paradox wasn't able to travel back in time and duel the three protagonists, so his existence in the past makes him a paradox, thus he disappears.

...But wait! This would make it impossible for him to travel back in time to change the past, meet the protagonists and change them, which would mean the future would be doomed anyway, allowing him to travel back in time. But this means he is able to influence the future through the protagonists, even though he shouldn't have been able to travel back in time because it became unnecessary, and so on. Yep, another grandfather paradox.

However, the consequences of this particular paradox isn't as huge as the elimination of Duel Monsters, in which case Paradox could simply disappear from history. Alternately, Paradox is removed from the timeline due to the consequences of his actions, the protagonists (and everyone else involved) would get hit with a Reset Button to preserve the remaining part of the timeline, but with the heroes keeping the knowledge they got from Paradox so they can go and make the future better. Paradox, through his actions, was able to indirectly save the future and indeed become a savior to his (now different) people, but he never existed, thus no one would know of him or what he did. It's a tragic fate, really.

I really like this idea. And I could see it happening as well.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I just had a thought. What if Paradox's name is not referring to his act of creating a temporal paradox, but is actually foreshadowing?

Maybe Paradox, during his struggle, inspired the protagonists and encouraged them to change the world. With Yugi being one of the most famous duelists, Judai possessing one of the most powerful powers in the universe, the Power of Gentle Darkness, and Yusei being one of the most known people in Neo Domino City, as well as possessing the power of the Crimson Dragon, it would be not impossible for them to influence the world, to push it in a different direction. So let's assume Paradox got a good beating from the trio, but didn't die or got punched out of space-time. The future would be saved and changed, but this would mean Paradox wasn't able to travel back in time and duel the three protagonists, so his existence in the past makes him a paradox, thus he disappears.

...But wait! This would make it impossible for him to travel back in time to change the past, meet the protagonists and change them, which would mean the future would be doomed anyway, allowing him to travel back in time. But this means he is able to influence the future through the protagonists, even though he shouldn't have been able to travel back in time because it became unnecessary, and so on. Yep, another grandfather paradox.

However, the consequences of this particular paradox isn't as huge as the elimination of Duel Monsters, in which case Paradox could simply disappear from history. Alternately, Paradox is removed from the timeline due to the consequences of his actions, the protagonists (and everyone else involved) would get hit with a Reset Button to preserve the remaining part of the timeline, but with the heroes keeping the knowledge they got from Paradox so they can go and make the future better. Paradox, through his actions, was able to indirectly save the future and indeed become a savior to his (now different) people, but he never existed, thus no one would know of him or what he did. It's a tragic fate, really.

I really like this theory. Watch it, I know one of your theories will most likely be the case.

anyone get that name of that Black Luster Soldier/Elemental Hero Neos fusion?

Originally Posted by jlee21

anyone get that name of that Black Luster Soldier/Elemental Hero Neos fusion?

It's still unknown. In bbs.newwise.com the names of all other monsters are written, but not for this one. I guess it'll soon be known.
So tomorrow is that Anison Plus New Years Special event. Hope that there'll be some new scenes from the movie.

Originally Posted by Arynis

I just had a thought. What if Paradox's name is not referring to his act of creating a temporal paradox, but is actually foreshadowing?

Maybe Paradox, during his struggle, inspired the protagonists and encouraged them to change the world. With Yugi being one of the most famous duelists, Judai possessing one of the most powerful powers in the universe, the Power of Gentle Darkness, and Yusei being one of the most known people in Neo Domino City, as well as possessing the power of the Crimson Dragon, it would be not impossible for them to influence the world, to push it in a different direction. So let's assume Paradox got a good beating from the trio, but didn't die or got punched out of space-time. The future would be saved and changed, but this would mean Paradox wasn't able to travel back in time and duel the three protagonists, so his existence in the past makes him a paradox, thus he disappears.

...But wait! This would make it impossible for him to travel back in time to change the past, meet the protagonists and change them, which would mean the future would be doomed anyway, allowing him to travel back in time. But this means he is able to influence the future through the protagonists, even though he shouldn't have been able to travel back in time because it became unnecessary, and so on. Yep, another grandfather paradox.

However, the consequences of this particular paradox isn't as huge as the elimination of Duel Monsters, in which case Paradox could simply disappear from history. Alternately, Paradox is removed from the timeline due to the consequences of his actions, the protagonists (and everyone else involved) would get hit with a Reset Button to preserve the remaining part of the timeline, but with the heroes keeping the knowledge they got from Paradox so they can go and make the future better. Paradox, through his actions, was able to indirectly save the future and indeed become a savior to his (now different) people, but he never existed, thus no one would know of him or what he did. It's a tragic fate, really.

As others said, thats something that would definitely be done very well and even have this movie uncameo, similar to Bleach: Memories of Nobody. I sure hope the writers have put that much thought as you have and not just randomly thought of adding in a timetraveler. This could also be a DBZ effect like how Trunks travels to the past but that opens a new doorway of trouble that's even worse. This may inflict Paradox's intent, also a paradox in itself. Wow, well, we'll have to see the movie ourselves in order to fully know how it'll happen or otherwise we may expect a bit much.

Anyone ever thought about accel syncro(don't know how, just starting discussion)

Originally Posted by kapulasta

Anyone ever thought about accel syncro(don't know how, just starting discussion)

What do you mean?

If you mean the scene in the second official trailer on the movie site when Yusei seems to accelerate ahead on his bike (similarly to Dark Glass), that scene could be his time slip, actually. Time slip is time travel via supernatural times, and considering one of the screenshots showed Crimson Dragon along Yusei in the 5D's period, it could be possible it aided Yusei in time travel. After all, one of its servants are in danger, Stardust is bonded with Yusei as well, so they have to go after it.

If you mean Yusei using Accel Synchro during the duels, I don't know if that would happen - first of all, it would spoil the already snail-slow season 3 (I mean, Yusei would have to learn how to use them, no? You'd expect an episode dedicated to that...) and by the looks of it, Paradox is going to have a ground duel with the protagonists. Ergo, no accel synchro, unless they could be summoned without a riding duel.

I was thinking about the timeline, and came up with the following versions, depending on what the roof scene/mansion scene is about:

Version 1

1. Yusei and co. are on the highway in Neo Domino City
2. Paradox arrives from the future
3. Paradox and Yusei duel
4. Paradox takes Stardust Dragon and travels into the past
5. Crimson Dragon appears and assists Yusei with a time slip
6. Yusei ends up in the GX period, where he encounters Judai in the most unusual place (The ruined roof)
7. The two agree to depart to the DM period
8. They meet Yugi and asks him for his help
9. Paradox is in the past (1984/5) where he attacks Pegasus' mansion
10. The trio arrives in from the DM period and try to stop Paradox, but they fail
11. Paradox tests their powers, curb stomps them and kills Pegasus in the process
12. Grandfather Paradox occurs (Glass shattering effect while the trio is black and white)
13. After this/Before this/During this, the trio warps back into the DM period (That white aura appears around them - see here)
14. They challenge Paradox to the final duel ("Let's end this!")

Version 2

1. Yusei and co. are on the highway in Neo Domino City
2. Paradox arrives from the future
3. Paradox and Yusei duel
4. Paradox takes Stardust Dragon and travels into the past
5. Crimson Dragon appears and assists Yusei with a time slip
6. Yusei ends up in the GX period and meets Judai
7. They encounter Paradox at an ambiguous location (the mansion)
8. Paradox tests their skill and sees he's strong enough, departs for Pegasus' time and kills him
9. Grandfather Paradox occurs
10. Judai and Yusei appear in the wrecked roof scene, which is actually some dimensional space for erased timelines/new future (Somehow.)
11. They agree to work together, they somehow get sent back to the DM period (again, white aura), find Yugi and challenge Paradox for the final duel

Or, ehh... I don't know. I kind of lost it after the first half on both lists. I'd say I'm certain on the events until the arrival in the GX period. We know too little about that goddamn mansion. (Whoever it belongs to won't be happy about the damage caused to their property, however...)

Also, I'd like to point out that the sky looks somewhat similar in both of these scenes:




Same area/period, perhaps? Maybe some time has passed when we see Judai and Yusei in the same location, which would explain the lack of the sun in those scenes.

EDIT (To the below post): Starry, that picture never gets old. I've seen it on PTDC, though. EPIC, you know it's true.

Originally Posted by kapulasta

Anyone ever thought about accel syncro(don't know how, just starting discussion)

About it being used in the movie? Somewhat likely, since Yusei does this Back to the Future thing on his D-Wheel like Dark Glass does. It could mean that the movie is post season three of 5D's idk

ETA: ffff Arynis beat me.

Also... dammit Paradox

Well, that makes perfect sense.
I like you, Paradox, because you're an awesome 'villain'. But, now I dislike you at the same time for cancelling my regularly scheduled anime.
What's a fan to do?