Thread: Stupid Anime Details: Memory World

Hey everyone! It's open season on the anime Memory Arc again!

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Yeah, exactly. All of the ka fights are stiff and awkward. They just...stand there and shoot energy balls at each other. There's no attempt at fluidity or choreography in the fights.

Why does Thief King Bakura calle the Pharaoh, Yugi? Why does Mahaddo's fight with Bakura take place in the "training grounds" vs, the Pharaoh's tomb like in the original?

Why does Bakura's diabound have the Blue Eyes White Dragon's power? And why can Mana see Yugi and the others? Its so dumb.

Yeah Kaiba being in it makes no sense either. There are just...a lot of changes that make you wonder what the heck the writers were thinking. So much canon breaking.

You really have to question the wisdom of saving the worst animation for the arc which needed the best. So, what exactly did pursuade them to make such massive changes? The first 7 manga volumes aside, they had never changed a main arc so extensively. It's not like they were trying to avoid animating fight scenes and the anime version is pretty much inarguably worse. What were they thinking?

Did anyone else notice how Kul Elna in the anime sucked? Anybody else get those vibes? It seemed...overlit. Plus zombies > skeletons, since the anime directors didn't seem to realise this.

Originally Posted by Tatsunoboshi Horoko

I like how the opening and ending gives us this cool, manga-accurate reassurance that slowly fades away once you see the Dia-Dhanks and Ra with teeth.

When watching the OP and ED again and again for 22 minutes is more entertaining than watching most of the episodes in the arc, you know you have a problem. I say 'most of', there were plenty of good bits in the anime Memory Arc, they were just being washed around in a sea of suck.

Please, everyone, take a moment to laugh at the dub which, according to Yu-Jyo, obscured Thief King Bakura turning to sand. Turning to sand was too hardcore for the dub.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

Oh God, THIS.

It's one big lie. The Dia-Dhank is such a stupid addition. "We need to make this look like dueling!!! Fix it!" is what they probably said. I truly understand now why fans say this is one of their least liked seasons. I'll take the manga over this in a heartbeat. The animation is trash, as are the changes. Them forgetting Ra had no teeth in its Ka form is so pathetic...you'd think they'd look back at their own opening for pointers. Shada getting hit over the head with a brick? LOL.

And oh God. Boboasa. I don't remember him being this stupid in the manga. In fact, he was actually quite intelligent and necessary. Now he's just an overweight, stereotyped, mentally challenged and deranged weirdo.

I seriously love how Bakura says specifically in the manga he created Diabound from his own hatred for the Pharaoh and stuff, and the anime says the exact opposite and gives him a slab. Just...wow. Likewise the random appearance of Zorc making Akinadin put the eye in his head to "save everyone" versus his originally selfish love and ambition for his son. ****ing bullocks it all is.

Oh, another change I hate. How is it that in the manga, Obelisk clearly pwned the crap out of Bakura's Diabound and knocked it over, but in the anime, somehow they were equal at that point? And then when they confront Bakura in Kul Elna....how is it Atem got a recovery from the Mystic Elf ka, but in the manga they were all on their last legs, fightnig to the death, obviously broken and bruised? Why did they add such superflous padding? It was a brutal fight to the death with no curing, recover or help. You either lived or died.

To address your concerns in order... yes, the Eygptian duel disks were idiotic to say the least. Bakura could summon a Ka not because he had one, but because of his strong hatred. But I disagree about the animation being bad. Aside from the plot screw-ups, I really loved this part in the anime.

Bobasa was, unfortunately, a part of the anime that annoyed me the most. In the manga, he was very useful. It's a real shame. Why they didn't just stick with the uncomplicated original, we'll never know. For that matter, why bother pretending that they would have gone to Egypt? The stupid memory stone tablet was still in Domino! That also explained why Bakura could set up his dark RPG so easily, since his father owned the museum.

I don't recall the anime saying that Bakura didn't create Diabound himself, but in the episode where he fights Mahaado, he mentions specifically that it grew stronger because his hatred grew.

You're right, the attractive part of the manga is that no matter how utterly beat-up Atem was, he kept going after Bakura, however desperately, and worried about everyone's safety. That he could defeat Zork after coming so near to death and because of the help of his friends ultimately brought the friendship concept of the entire series to full circle.

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

The first 7 volumes and Memory Arc were IMO the most interesting arcs, and yet unfortunately, they had to get the worst animation and treatment.

Yes, the first anime series and the pharaoh's memory arc of the second series are my all-time favorite parts of both anime series as well. Everything was taken more seriously there, and did not focus on the god-forsaken card game.

Originally Posted by Arynis

^ ROFL, Horoko

I think the manga had a sarcophagus with Akunadin in it next to the table Atem and Dark Bakura were playing at, as well sarcophaguses with Yugi and his friends in them. I don't recall those being there in the anime... I could be wrong, though.

More importantly, the manga had the thief Bakura dragging Akunumkanon's mummified corpse through the courtroom, *not* his sarcophagus. They might have thought this was a bit too much of a sacrilege to present in the anime though, but when you think about it, there's no way Bakura would have weighed himself down with that huge thing for the sake of being proper. Speaking of things that don't make sense, in the original manga, when Bakura gives Yuugi back the Puzzle box with the god cards in it the night before they go to the museum, he does *not* reveal his plans to him. I mean seriously, when did he ever do that before and why did they think it would make sense to have him do it now? Back when he invited Yuugi and the others to play Monster World, he did not inform them of the fact that he planned to steal their souls and seal them in tiny figurines, now did he? Also, the other Yuugi *never* put in an appearance that night. He was most likely watching, sure, but it was Yuugi who was left to wonder what possible motives could Bakura have for helping him.

Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster

Also there's the fact that early on Mahaado makes the comment that there was already a dark power in the ring, so techincally wouldn't there be two spirits in the ring, unless Bakrua really did die when he fell and Zork took over the body, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Technically speaking, all of the items have a dark power, since they were all created the same way, after all.

Originally Posted by Lillian

Yeah, Zorc was actually hinted at really early on when Yami Marik defeated Yami Bakura in their shadow game on the KC Blimp back in BC. Bakura's whole "I am darkness" line was the first foreshadowing that he was definitely something more than just a pain in the butt chasing Yugi and co. around, lol.

Also, I find it funny how Bakura's avatar in the original RPG was a traveler who pretended to be weak and was really Zorc in disguise. That basically sums up Yami Bakura's actions throughout the entire series, posing as a weak enemy and being defeated over and over before revealing his true nature to be that of Zorc, lol.

Well, earlier than that. The earliest foreshadowing was Monster World itself, though there was no way they could have known about that at the time. And that duel between Malik and Bakura was one of my absolute favorites.

Originally Posted by russ869

Well that brings up another thing I'm always wondering. Did Dark Bakura lose his memory just like the other Yugi did? Just how much did he know/remember. In his alliance with Marik, Dark Bakura realizes that he was mistaken about what would be necessary for him to obtain his coveted "power of darkness." At the same time, however, it seems he definitely knows more than Yugi does about the situation. (He calls the other Yugi a "king" in the DDD arc before anyone knew he was a Pharaoh.)

That seems to be the implication in the manga both before they enter the memory world and once they're inside it. Bakura seems to need the pharaoh's memories to remember everything himself. Bakura calling the other Yuugi "king" was probably an anime screw-up that would make sense in the manga. If not that, then Bakura has a better general idea of what's going on but still doesn't remember everything.