Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[Kairi_Michiko]

I'm totally excited for this movie. I want to see how well they handle all three of the Yu-Gi-OhVerses coming together in one single movie. It'll surely be something to watch, I'll say.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I'm totally excited for this movie. I want to see how well they handle all three of the Yu-Gi-OhVerses coming together in one single movie. It'll surely be something to watch, I'll say.

Just watch the clips from the opening. They'll give you a good indication.

[Arynis]

I'm totally excited for this movie. I want to see how well they handle all three of the Yu-Gi-OhVerses coming together in one single movie. It'll surely be something to watch, I'll say.

Yeah, what Dark Dust Dragon said. You can also watch this compilation video based on the clips released from the movie during its promotion, but be wary of (some pretty major) spoilers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrYiItPAfjM

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yeah, what Dark Dust Dragon said. You can also watch this compilation video based on the clips released from the movie during its promotion, but be wary of (some pretty major) spoilers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrYiItPAfjM

What Rorschach said.

Man, now I hope they do another 5D's OVA or something. If the movie is any good at all, it deserves company.

[Allana]

What Rorschach said.

Man, now I hope they do another 5D's OVA or something. If the movie is any good at all, it deserves company.

If there another OVA, I would like he tell Yug's new adventures after Atem left him, or Sugoroku's young years as legendary player. Or simply Yu-Gi-Oh R. It will be FA-BU-LOUS.

[Arynis]

If there another OVA, I would like he tell Yug's new adventures after Atem left him, or Sugoroku's young years as legendary player. Or simply Yu-Gi-Oh R. It will be FA-BU-LOUS.

Pfff, FABULOUS. XD

Or, depending on what NAS does (or does not do) with Paradox, it would be cool if they made a backstory video for him similar to Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Parallel Works 8. It would be epic. I mean, Paradox is pretty popular...

[Prismamaster]

Does anyone think that trueman is agent smith and darkness is a goat?

[Starry]

Does anyone think that trueman is agent smith and darkness is a goat?

Go back to 4chan Prism, or keep spamming us, it's mildly entertaining

On topic, I hope that Paradox might get a small arc in 5D's to explain why he went all anti spiral on us.

[Arynis]

On topic, I hope that Paradox might get a small arc in 5D's to explain why he went all anti spiral on us.

Totally voting this. Even if he doesn't get his own series, I want a mini arc on him, definitely~

Considering he witnessed the world getting destroyed or at least saw the aftermath of it, he must have been rather broken, then became a stoic man who threw away his humanity and considered himself his time's savior. He became twisted and bent on saving his future and correcting the world, which is why he didn't bat an eye at destroying an entire city. The loss of a few hundred (thousand?) people is probably nothing compared to the annihilation he may have been part of. That's my interpretation on it, anyway.

[cookie]

Totally voting this. Even if he doesn't get his own series, I want a mini arc on him, definitely~

Agreed. It'd be nicer if he were the next protagonist /shot

Considering he witnessed the world getting destroyed or at least saw the aftermath of it, he must have been rather broken, then became a stoic man who threw away his humanity and considered himself his time's savior. He became twisted and bent on saving his future and correcting the world, which is why he didn't bat an eye at destroying an entire city. The loss of a few hundred (thousand?) people is probably nothing compared to the annihilation he may have been part of. That's my interpretation on it, anyway.

In a way, this kinda makes him similar to Yusei, except more extreme, arrogant, and sort of lost. This connects them more than the other two protagonists. Maybe he looked up to Yusei when he was a kid and probably didn't like other Duel kings as much (or in Judai's case, at all). It'd be cool if there was a protagonist comparison or something like that to Paradox.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

In a way, this kinda makes him similar to Yusei, except more extreme, arrogant, and sort of lost. This connects them more than the other two protagonists. Maybe he looked up to Yusei when he was a kid and probably didn't like other Duel kings as much (or in Judai's case, at all). It'd be cool if there was a protagonist comparison or something like that to Paradox.

The only reason he didn't like them is because they were in his way. Judai was close to uncovering him, and so he needed to be removed. That, and Paradox (theoretically) suffers from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, making him unstable.

[Allana]

Totally voting this. Even if he doesn't get his own series, I want a mini arc on him, definitely~

Considering he witnessed the world getting destroyed or at least saw the aftermath of it, he must have been rather broken, then became a stoic man who threw away his humanity and considered himself his time's savior. He became twisted and bent on saving his future and correcting the world, which is why he didn't bat an eye at destroying an entire city. The loss of a few hundred (thousand?) people is probably nothing compared to the annihilation he may have been part of. That's my interpretation on it, anyway.

The only reason he didn't like them is because they were in his way. Judai was close to uncovering him, and so he needed to be removed. That, and Paradox (theoretically) suffers from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, making him unstable.

Interesting video ! Thanks Arynis !

Your ideas are very probably excat. Also, I imagine when he arrives in Yusei's time, Paradox must be still under the shock. I mean, he came from a world die, he can't be in his normal state in his spirit.

Yusei and others can't understand him when they tries to say him that people can change the world. However, If we reasonning like Paradox, the why he refuses he is obvious: he had seen by his eyes the world entierely destroyed, he is the only person who survived. He wants be sure the world will be saved by his own acts, by himself. Moreover, how can he be sure that Yusei and others will can really prevent the destruction of the world ? Nothing can confirm it for him. Take the risk to see the world be destroyed a second time ? Rather kill Pegasus and Duel Monsters ! At least he is sure the world will be don't destroyed.

[Arynis]

Yusei and others can't understand him when they tries to say him that people can change the world. However, If we reasonning like Paradox, the why he refuses he is obvious: he had seen by his eyes the world entierely destroyed, he is the only person who survived. He wants be sure the world will be saved by his own acts, by himself. Moreover, how can he be sure that Yusei and others will can really prevent the destruction of the world ? Nothing can confirm it for him. Take the risk to see the world be destroyed a second time ? Rather kill Pegasus and Duel Monsters ! At least he is sure the world will be don't destroyed.

Hmm, you make a very good point there. Paradox would not take any chances, even if what Yusei said may have been true. But yeah, as Paradox's present time demonstrates, he didn't do a good job... XD

I have been thinking about Paradox's card effects. Look at Sin Truth Dragon's:

"When a "Sin" monster you control destroys an opponent's monster, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and inflict 800 damage to your opponent for each monster destroyed by this effect."

Doesn't this sound like something that would be rather convenient against the Machine Emperors? Destroy one part and every other part would go down with it. It's also an Effect Monster, making it immune to the Machine Emperors' effects. While Sin Paradox Dragon is a Synchro monster, it would be destroyed by the controller's card effect and then activate Sin Paradigm Shift to get Sin Truth out... avoiding the Machine Emperor's absorb effect, similarly to an Accel Synchro. And Sin Truth's other effect can take care of any other effect that would destroy it.

But eh... wishful thinking.

On a side note, Delta Fly makes me think of a mini Sin Truth, lol.

[Allana]

Hmm, you make a very good point there. Paradox would not take any chances, even if what Yusei said may have been true. But yeah, as Paradox's present time demonstrates, he didn't do a good job... XD

I have been thinking about Paradox's card effects. Look at Sin Truth Dragon's:

"When a "Sin" monster you control destroys an opponent's monster, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and inflict 800 damage to your opponent for each monster destroyed by this effect."

Doesn't this sound like something that would be rather convenient against the Machine Emperors? Destroy one part and every other part would go down with it. It's also an Effect Monster, making it immune to the Machine Emperors' effects. While Sin Paradox Dragon is a Synchro monster, it would be destroyed by the controller's card effect and then activate Sin Paradigm Shift to get Sin Truth out... avoiding the Machine Emperor's absorb effect, similarly to an Accel Synchro. And Sin Truth's other effect can take care of any other effect that would destroy it.

But eh... wishful thinking.

On a side note, Delta Fly makes me think of a mini Sin Truth, lol.

By "controller's effect card", you mean Sin Paradox Dragon destroy by Paradox himself ?

Also, he can overtake Emperors's effect simply by Blue Eyes White Dragon, Rainbow Dragon, Cyber End Dragon or by Sin Cyber End Dragon, Sin Blue Eyes and Sin Rainbow Dragon. If Placido saves Wisel with Klein's Labyrinth, Paradox can counter with Sin Claw Stream.

Finally, Paradox has a lot of ways to destroy easily Machine Emperors.

It's true there a resemblance ! XD

[Makoeyes987]

Speaking of Sin Truth Dragon, the OCG card effect for it has been confirmed, and it's actually not too bad.

They removed its self protection effect, and burn damage but its surprisingly similar to the original. And even a bit easier to use. I like it. XD

[Allana]

He is more easier to summon it ! Even he has lost burn and self protection, he stays very good. And he has all his attcks ponts ! He has need of a field magic, I suppose Sin World will be realeased soon.

On a side note, Konami thought to Paradox and Judai for Duelist Revolution:

Thanks a lot for the translations Horoko !

PARADOX FUSION
Counter Trap
Activate by removing 1 face-up Fusion Monster you control from the game. Negate the activation of a Magic or Trap card or the Special Summoning of a monster. During the second End Phase after activation, return the monster removed to activate this effect to the field in face-up attack mode.

LIGHT OF DESTRUCTION
Permanent Trap
When cards are sent to the Cemetery from your opponent's deck by an opponent's effect, send 3 cards from the top of your opponent's deck to the Cemetery.

[Makoeyes987]

Oh God...Light of Destruction is win. ROFFL. The name, the irony, and effectiveness is perfect. Lightsworn players want to mill...well..they'll certainly be getting it if you activate three of these at the same time. LOLOLOL

[Arynis]

Speaking of Sin Truth Dragon, the OCG card effect for it has been confirmed, and it's actually not too bad.

They removed its self protection effect, and burn damage but its surprisingly similar to the original. And even a bit easier to use. I like it. XD

Oh, that's really nice! Good to see Sin Paradigm Shift isn't needed any longer, and with the changed effect you could take it out again and again each time a Sin monster is destroyed, providing you have your Life Points. Daaaamn. (Although in terms of symbolism and meaning, I'll always love Sin Paradigm Shift~) And it can be Summoned if a Sin Monster is destroyed in battle or by a card effect... which means in theory Paradox could bust the Sin Paradox Dragon equipped to a Machine Emperor as well via Mystical Space Typhoon or anything. Or just if a Machine Emperor destroys any of his Sin Monsters. And it requires Sin Truth to destroy an opponent's monster, rather than any other Sin Monster. With the "Only 1 Sin Monster" limitation, that would make sense. Sin Truth's ATK power makes it safe from the Machine Emperors as well, providing they don't play some card that would raise the Emperors' ATK to insane heights.

Although if Paradox ever made an appearance and used Sin Truth, I wonder if they'd go with the OCG effect or the movie effect. Or if they go with the former, they could explain the movie effect with taking up the manga-like rules that applied during DM's time. And since they did duel during the DM period...

However, the OCG effect would make Paradox's LP payment look funny. "I sacrifice myself again! And again! And again!" Lawl.

He is more easier to summon it ! Even he has lost burn and self protection, he stays very good. And he has all his attcks ponts ! He has need of a field magic, I suppose Sin World will be realeased soon.

On a side note, Konami thought to Paradox and Judai for Duelist Revolution:

Thanks a lot for the translations Horoko !

PARADOX FUSION
Counter Trap
Activate by removing 1 face-up Fusion Monster you control from the game. Negate the activation of a Magic or Trap card or the Special Summoning of a monster. During the second End Phase after activation, return the monster removed to activate this effect to the field in face-up attack mode.

LIGHT OF DESTRUCTION
Permanent Trap
When cards are sent to the Cemetery from your opponent's deck by an opponent's effect, send 3 cards from the top of your opponent's deck to the Cemetery.

Haha, Paradox Fusion. I noticed Light of Destruction's name yesterday... Lulz ensued. XD But yeah, ironic indeed. Take that, Lightsworns!

[Starry]

lol Light of Destruction. God help the Lightsworn players have a mystic space typhoon, Celestia, or Dark Bribe handy.

Also, I know people like to edit BS on the wiki, but according to this page the movie is scheduled to air in July (and season 3 of 5D's to start in July as well), has anybody found any further confirmation?

[Lia]

Also, I know people like to edit BS on the wiki, but according to this page the movie is scheduled to air in July (and season 3 of 5D's to start in July as well), has anybody found any further confirmation?

Actually, it seems that I've missed the fact that the movie's english airing date is scheduled for July this year. O_o Reading casually the comments here, I probably got the wrong info that the DVD is expected to air in July........or August in Japan. xD Anyway.........so we'll actually see the English dubbed movie in the summer. Well, at least the chance to see it on the internet shortly after the premiere is much larger this time. ;p

[Arynis]

Eh... Never heard of any definite proof on that, Starry.

We were merely guessing estimate releases of the DVD for July, not that the movie would be aired in English at that time. And if the English movie's air date would be indeed that, I'm pretty sure Cohen would have some information on it, seeing how he's the one posting dub related information from Toonzone.

The only thing we know that 4Kids is very likely working on the 10th Anniversary Movie, but I don't know of anything else. Oddly enough, Wikipedia's page for the movie also claims the English release date to be July 2010. However, that one was edited by an anonymous contributor whose only edit was modifying the air date from TBA to July 2010. It is not the same contributor who edited the episode list page, who was this anonymous contributor.

[Lia]

Whatever........I guess no matter how slow 4KID'S are working on the movie, it'll probably air in the summer. Although, I don't hurry so much to see the english version of the movie.....I'll be much more pleased to see the DVD rip at that time. x)

[Arynis]

Whatever........I guess no matter how slow 4KID'S are working on the movie, it'll probably air in the summer. Although, I don't hurry so much to see the english version of the movie.....I'll be much more pleased to see the DVD rip at that time. x)

Well, I looked a bit more into the anonymous contributors and they added the information from two separate locations and ISPs. They were no proxies or school proxies either, and the locations weren't in New York (4kids' headquarters). Also, the contributor who added the movie's airing date on the "List of 5D's episodes" page had their edit initially removed due to the lack of source, but the anon just re-added it, once again without any sources. I'd call that rather suspicious.

Furthermore, I took a look at the release dates of the Pokemon movies for a reference. Now, while the Arceus movie was released a mere few months after the Japanese premiere (3 months), all other releases were released quite a while after, ranging from 6 months to a year after the Japanese premiere. While it's theoretically possible that the Yugioh movie will be also out in July with this in mind, we do not have any proof yet.

EDIT: Apparently the rumor popped up on 2CH as well: (Thread Link)

[Unconfirmed Information / Fake Information?]

805 :見ろ!名無しがゴミのようだ!:2010/04/14(水) 05:27:54 ID:GKg3IdY9
4kidsが7月公開に向けて英語版作成してるらしいときいて

Well... but you know, it's 2CH, which have trolled us with that certain "movie pack" last time. They asked for the source or if a voice actor talked about it, but no reply on that issue.

[tori_yugio4ever]

Just curious... does anyone know if there's going to be an Ani-Manga of the YGO 10th aniversary movie?

[Arynis]

Just curious... does anyone know if there's going to be an Ani-Manga of the YGO 10th aniversary movie?

It's not known yet, but it would be a cool idea. After all, we did get a novelization for Pyramid of Light.

On a side note, today (or yesterday for Japan as it's already Saturday over there) was the last airing of the movie in Isesaki and Mito, according to 2CH. There's a post asking if all showings ended on Friday, but no one replied to that post yet. It's almost 4 AM in Japan now, so most people are still asleep, presumably.

819 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/16(金) 07:11:49 ID:lvWcOE82
伊勢崎と水戸は今日が最後だね

822 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/17(土) 01:02:16 ID:hApociJs
昨日で全上映館が終了したのかな？

[tori_yugio4ever]

It's not known yet, but it would be a cool idea. After all, we did get a novelization for Pyramid of Light.

On a side note, today (or yesterday for Japan as it's already Saturday over there) was the last airing of the movie in Isesaki and Mito, according to 2CH. There's a post asking if all showings ended on Friday, but no one replied to that post yet. It's almost 4 AM in Japan now, so most people are still asleep, presumably.

819 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/16(金) 07:11:49 ID:lvWcOE82
伊勢崎と水戸は今日が最後だね

822 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/17(土) 01:02:16 ID:hApociJs
昨日で全上映館が終了したのかな？

Since the movie done being shown in theaters it should be a matter of time before the dvd is release and any other things, like hopefully an ani-manga or video game which usually follows after.

[Allana]

A novelization would be good ! Or Takahashi draws the movie in manga with added scenes for example.

[AzureRevolver]

I know this isnt the place to ask, i went to the Image Request section but i didnt know if which section to ask ... But does anyone know where i can get High Res pics of Judai from all the opening Previews ?

[tori_yugio4ever]

I know this isnt the place to ask, i went to the Image Request section but i didnt know if which section to ask ... But does anyone know where i can get High Res pics of Judai from all the opening Previews ?

Check your profile I sent you some links there to not change to topic of the thread too much.

A novelization would be good ! Or Takahashi draws the movie in manga with added scenes for example.

That would be cool.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hmm, you make a very good point there. Paradox would not take any chances, even if what Yusei said may have been true. But yeah, as Paradox's present time demonstrates, he didn't do a good job... XD

I have been thinking about Paradox's card effects. Look at Sin Truth Dragon's:

"When a "Sin" monster you control destroys an opponent's monster, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and inflict 800 damage to your opponent for each monster destroyed by this effect."

Doesn't this sound like something that would be rather convenient against the Machine Emperors? Destroy one part and every other part would go down with it. It's also an Effect Monster, making it immune to the Machine Emperors' effects. While Sin Paradox Dragon is a Synchro monster, it would be destroyed by the controller's card effect and then activate Sin Paradigm Shift to get Sin Truth out... avoiding the Machine Emperor's absorb effect, similarly to an Accel Synchro. And Sin Truth's other effect can take care of any other effect that would destroy it.

But eh... wishful thinking.

On a side note, Delta Fly makes me think of a mini Sin Truth, lol.

I see your point. I also see that it coincides with Paradox's new tendencies. He seems to lash out because of what happened, showing hatred because of the incident (not to be unexpected); Sin Truth similarly destroys everything in its path. Its new effect is quite good as well.

He is more easier to summon it ! Even he has lost burn and self protection, he stays very good. And he has all his attcks ponts ! He has need of a field magic, I suppose Sin World will be realeased soon.

On a side note, Konami thought to Paradox and Judai for Duelist Revolution:

Thanks a lot for the translations Horoko !

PARADOX FUSION
Counter Trap
Activate by removing 1 face-up Fusion Monster you control from the game. Negate the activation of a Magic or Trap card or the Special Summoning of a monster. During the second End Phase after activation, return the monster removed to activate this effect to the field in face-up attack mode.

LIGHT OF DESTRUCTION
Permanent Trap
When cards are sent to the Cemetery from your opponent's deck by an opponent's effect, send 3 cards from the top of your opponent's deck to the Cemetery.

Paradox Fusion has nothing to do with Paradox, but Light of Destruction? WOW. Yeah, I see what you mean.

[Lia]

On a side note, today (or yesterday for Japan as it's already Saturday over there) was the last airing of the movie in Isesaki and Mito, according to 2CH. There's a post asking if all showings ended on Friday, but no one replied to that post yet. It's almost 4 AM in Japan now, so most people are still asleep, presumably.

819 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/16(金) 07:11:49 ID:lvWcOE82
伊勢崎と水戸は今日が最後だね

822 ：見ろ！名無しがゴミのようだ！：2010/04/17(土) 01:02:16 ID:hApociJs
昨日で全上映館が終了したのかな？

With this I hope at least the main website will finally update. ;p

[Rikku-chan]

I have a theroy on the bad future that will come. Now back in Battle City Ishizu stated she can see the past, present, and future with the Millennium Tauk right and that the future she saw couldn't be averted. With her duel with Kaiba she saw the future that she defeated him. However, Kaiba averted that future by screwing destiny and defeating her. Now I bet you're wondering what I'm getting to right? Well, since whatever future Ishizu has seen has been averted. What if the future she saw was a good one and when Kaiba screwed destiny alterd the future to go into ruins. So my theroy is that Kaiba and Ishizu's duel caused the bad future to come true and that Paradox could have went back at that time to change the duel out come and the future to be a decent one and not a horrible one. It's just one of many, many therories I have thought of.

[Arynis]

I have a theroy on the bad future that will come. Now back in Battle City Ishizu stated she can see the past, present, and future with the Millennium Tauk right and that the future she saw couldn't be averted. With her duel with Kaiba she saw the future that she defeated him. However, Kaiba averted that future by screwing destiny and defeating her. Now I bet you're wondering what I'm getting to right? Well, since whatever future Ishizu has seen has been averted. What if the future she saw was a good one and when Kaiba screwed destiny alterd the future to go into ruins. So my theroy is that Kaiba and Ishizu's duel caused the bad future to come true and that Paradox could have went back at that time to change the duel out come and the future to be a decent one and not a horrible one. It's just one of many, many therories I have thought of.

Hmm. Interesting that you bring Ishizu and her Millennium Item in here. However, I don't see how Kaiba winning that duel would alter the outcome of Battle City, especially the world itself in the long run. In theory, several duels' outcome would affect (or not) the world in a long run, especially the protagonists' duels. Dark Yugi loses to Pegasus? His soul is sealed in a card. Dark Yugi loses to Dark Marik? Presumably gets killed. Dark Yugi loses to Dartz? His soul gets sealed in Dartz's temple. Losing against Dark Bakura? Self-explanatory.

Judai losing against Kagemaru? Losing his monsters from his deck and have Kagemaru gain immortality/world domination with the now fully powered up Demons. Judai losing against Saiou? World gets brainwashed. Judai losing against Yubel/ failing to activate Super Fusion and redirect the fusion materials to him and Yubel? Yubel fuses every dimension, getting them destroyed in the process. Judai losing against Darkness? Humanity is trapped in Darkness' world forever.

Yusei losing against Godwin? Godwin uses the powers of the two Gods to destroy and rebuild the world.

Possibilities aside, Paradox said Duel Monsters destroyed the future. The movie trailer seems to imply that Paradox's target might be Pegasus. We know all he needed from Yusei is Stardust Dragon, but he attacked Judai. I think it's a bit ambiguous right now if Paradox destroyed Dominno City because he wanted to kill Pegasus or Yugi, or kill two birds with one stone and kill them both. Paradox's explanation on his motive and future are still too ambiguous to figure out why he was doing what he did.

We know he intends to save the future, but why attack Judai? If his target was Pegasus, he could have gone straight for him. Was it a safety measure? When he steals Yusei's Stardust Dragon, why does he say "I have been waiting for a long time!"? It sounds like as if he were someone who wanted to get his hands on the Dragon. Alternately, he has been experimenting several times by that point, leading him to Yusei and Stardust Dragon. Why does he describe his mission as an experiment? What did he mean with "experimenting with history"? Why does he need to repeat his mission over and over again? Changing the timeline once can push it into a good (or bad) direction. Does he intend to target several events because he has no knowledge of where things went wrong?

I am aware I dismissed your previous theory, DarkDust_Dragon, but I decided to give it some thought once again. What if Paradox is indeed Placido, of all people? We know that he intended to steal Stardust Dragon so the Crimson Dragon couldn't be summoned (albeit that didn't work out for Paradox). Sin Paradox Dragon's tail bears an infinity sign, although it's the only monster of Paradox's to do so. Just like Placido, Paradox calls Yusei by his full name. Placido seems to fuse with his D-Wheel from the waist, just like how Paradox connects to Sin Truth Dragon.

What if Placido was punished by Jose for his acts? We know the Tenors are capable of changing form (Luciano and Placido can), what if their real form is different from what we see? Jose could have stripped him of most of his skills, exposing his real form and erasing/altering his memories of Illiaster and himself as Placido, then send him into the to-be-destroyed-future as punishment. He would retain his ability to make monsters real and do real damage (ala Hidden Knight -Hook-, Machine Empreror Wisel, etc.) and his knowledge of technology would allow him to build himself the time travel D-Wheel, and to develop the card he used to seal Stardust Dragon in his card. (Which could be a nod to Wisel's Synchro monster absorb ability.) It would explain why he said "I have been waiting for a long time!" as well. His love for experimenting is from his time as Placido, trying to experiment with Ghost to find out Yusei's capabilities, or attempting to destroy Team 5D's. Not to mention it would be a real kicker for people like me who felt sympathetic for Paradox, but I guess that would put even more emphasis on "Jerkass" in Jerkass Woobie.

And here is this image:



There are facts that contradict the theory, however. First of all, Paradox's and Placido's eyes are of a different shape, Placido retains his eye shape even in his butler form. Next, Paradox uses a Synchro Monster, something Placido was clearly against. (Then again, the Ghost army uses Ally of Justice monsters...) Paradox doesn't know or have anything against Illiaster, but it is not known if he did anything else apart from the movie's events. The way Placido and Paradox dresses is entirely different as well. (I mean... nipple spikes.) And Placido seems to be more robot oriented than Paradox - Placido's abilities and acts are tied to robots (Ghost, Diablo series, Placido's "Ultimate Form", Machine Emperor Wisel, and his looks are a bit... robot like) while Paradox is more monster centric (using monsters to attack Judai and Domino City, fusing with Sin Truth). And Placido and Paradox have different voice actors, although Tamura's and Placido's VA's voice sound a bit similar.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hmm. Interesting that you bring Ishizu and her Millennium Item in here. However, I don't see how Kaiba winning that duel would alter the outcome of Battle City, especially the world itself in the long run. In theory, several duels' outcome would affect (or not) the world in a long run, especially the protagonists' duels. Dark Yugi loses to Pegasus? His soul is sealed in a card. Dark Yugi loses to Dark Marik? Presumably gets killed. Dark Yugi loses to Dartz? His soul gets sealed in Dartz's temple. Losing against Dark Bakura? Self-explanatory.

Judai losing against Kagemaru? Losing his monsters from his deck and have Kagemaru gain immortality/world domination with the now fully powered up Demons. Judai losing against Saiou? World gets brainwashed. Judai losing against Yubel/ failing to activate Super Fusion and redirect the fusion materials to him and Yubel? Yubel fuses every dimension, getting them destroyed in the process. Judai losing against Darkness? Humanity is trapped in Darkness' world forever.

Yusei losing against Godwin? Godwin uses the powers of the two Gods to destroy and rebuild the world.

Yeah, these are serious repercussions. If Ishizu had won as she predicted, however, she would have faired no better against Yugi than Kaiba, and the same result occurs. Or worse; if she dueled her brother, Yugi would have to face 2 Egyptian Gods at once. Really, it was for the better that Kaiba did that.

Possibilities aside, Paradox said Duel Monsters destroyed the future. The movie trailer seems to imply that Paradox's target might be Pegasus. We know all he needed from Yusei is Stardust Dragon, but he attacked Judai. I think it's a bit ambiguous right now if Paradox destroyed Dominno City because he wanted to kill Pegasus or Yugi, or kill two birds with one stone and kill them both. Paradox's explanation on his motive and future are still too ambiguous to figure out why he was doing what he did.

We know he intends to save the future, but why attack Judai? If his target was Pegasus, he could have gone straight for him. Was it a safety measure? When he steals Yusei's Stardust Dragon, why does he say "I have been waiting for a long time!"? It sounds like as if he were someone who wanted to get his hands on the Dragon. Alternately, he has been experimenting several times by that point, leading him to Yusei and Stardust Dragon. Why does he describe his mission as an experiment? What did he mean with "experimenting with history"? Why does he need to repeat his mission over and over again? Changing the timeline once can push it into a good (or bad) direction. Does he intend to target several events because he has no knowledge of where things went wrong?

I am aware I dismissed your previous theory, DarkDust_Dragon, but I decided to give it some thought once again. What if Paradox is indeed Placido, of all people? We know that he intended to steal Stardust Dragon so the Crimson Dragon couldn't be summoned (albeit that didn't work out for Paradox). Sin Paradox Dragon's tail bears an infinity sign, although it's the only monster of Paradox's to do so. Just like Placido, Paradox calls Yusei by his full name. Placido seems to fuse with his D-Wheel from the waist, just like how Paradox connects to Sin Truth Dragon.

What if Placido was punished by Jose for his acts? We know the Tenors are capable of changing form (Luciano and Placido can), what if their real form is different from what we see? Jose could have stripped him of most of his skills, exposing his real form and erasing/altering his memories of Illiaster and himself as Placido, then send him into the to-be-destroyed-future as punishment. He would retain his ability to make monsters real and do real damage (ala Hidden Knight -Hook-, Machine Empreror Wisel, etc.) and his knowledge of technology would allow him to build himself the time travel D-Wheel, and to develop the card he used to seal Stardust Dragon in his card. (Which could be a nod to Wisel's Synchro monster absorb ability.) It would explain why he said "I have been waiting for a long time!" as well. His love for experimenting is from his time as Placido, trying to experiment with Ghost to find out Yusei's capabilities, or attempting to destroy Team 5D's. Not to mention it would be a real kicker for people like me who felt sympathetic for Paradox, but I guess that would put even more emphasis on "Jerkass" in Jerkass Woobie.

And here is this image:



There are facts that contradict the theory, however. First of all, Paradox's and Placido's eyes are of a different shape, Placido retains his eye shape even in his butler form. Next, Paradox uses a Synchro Monster, something Placido was clearly against. (Then again, the Ghost army uses Ally of Justice monsters...) Paradox doesn't know or have anything against Illiaster, but it is not known if he did anything else apart from the movie's events. The way Placido and Paradox dresses is entirely different as well. (I mean... nipple spikes.) And Placido seems to be more robot oriented than Paradox - Placido's abilities and acts are tied to robots (Ghost, Diablo series, Placido's "Ultimate Form", Machine Emperor Wisel, and his looks are a bit... robot like) while Paradox is more monster centric (using monsters to attack Judai and Domino City, fusing with Sin Truth). And Placido and Paradox have different voice actors, although Tamura's and Placido's VA's voice sound a bit similar.

Remember Saiou? the Light of Destruction turned him into a Split-Personality, with two very opposed mindsets. Anything can happen, especially if one is going against The Pattern. It's never said by Paradox that he doesn't know of Yliaster, because they're never even mentioned in the film. I know it's a tenuous link at best, but as you pointed out there's a lot on inconsistencies and loose ends that sorely need address.

[Arynis]

Remember Saiou? the Light of Destruction turned him into a Split-Personality, with two very opposed mindsets. Anything can happen, especially if one is going against The Pattern. It's never said by Paradox that he doesn't know of Yliaster, because they're never even mentioned in the film. I know it's a tenuous link at best, but as you pointed out there's a lot on inconsistencies and loose ends that sorely need address.

Ah, yeah. There's Paradox's mask to note as well, which would imply a split personality of the sort. Or just represent Paradox as a man who carries grief on his shoulders while he maniacally destroys everything. Or alternately, from an alchemical view, the black half of the mask represents Nigredo, while the while one represents Albedo. Nigredo is the phase of death and despair, when the body turns black and is destroyed. Then follows the Peacock Tail stage, when the spirit inside the essence is reborn and floats around in the flask. It parallels with Paradox's destroyed future and his desire to save the hopeless future, ie. resurrect it, so to speak. Or, Paradox's destruction (destroying Domino City, killing Pegasus) gives birth to the rescued future.

Indeed. Thankfully, the anime started firing off those Chekhov's Guns now. We're getting there, slowly.

[Allana]

I have a theroy on the bad future that will come. Now back in Battle City Ishizu stated she can see the past, present, and future with the Millennium Tauk right and that the future she saw couldn't be averted. With her duel with Kaiba she saw the future that she defeated him. However, Kaiba averted that future by screwing destiny and defeating her. Now I bet you're wondering what I'm getting to right? Well, since whatever future Ishizu has seen has been averted. What if the future she saw was a good one and when Kaiba screwed destiny alterd the future to go into ruins. So my theroy is that Kaiba and Ishizu's duel caused the bad future to come true and that Paradox could have went back at that time to change the duel out come and the future to be a decent one and not a horrible one. It's just one of many, many therories I have thought of.

A very interesting idea! I never thought Kaiba and Ishizu's duel of this way. Indeed, maybe the issue of this duel had brought the bad future. Good noticed Rikku-chan !

On a side note, It's Kaiba, somone who hasn't magic powers who won by the influence of Millenium objet, against a powerful strengh: the fate. It's something interesting. Yugi has Millenium Puzzle, Judai can talk in Spirits and later has Yubel and Yusei has the Crimson Dragon's birthmark.

I am aware I dismissed your previous theory, DarkDust_Dragon, but I decided to give it some thought once again. What if Paradox is indeed Placido, of all people? We know that he intended to steal Stardust Dragon so the Crimson Dragon couldn't be summoned (albeit that didn't work out for Paradox). Sin Paradox Dragon's tail bears an infinity sign, although it's the only monster of Paradox's to do so. Just like Placido, Paradox calls Yusei by his full name. Placido seems to fuse with his D-Wheel from the waist, just like how Paradox connects to Sin Truth Dragon.

What if Placido was punished by Jose for his acts? We know the Tenors are capable of changing form (Luciano and Placido can), what if their real form is different from what we see? Jose could have stripped him of most of his skills, exposing his real form and erasing/altering his memories of Illiaster and himself as Placido, then send him into the to-be-destroyed-future as punishment. He would retain his ability to make monsters real and do real damage (ala Hidden Knight -Hook-, Machine Empreror Wisel, etc.) and his knowledge of technology would allow him to build himself the time travel D-Wheel, and to develop the card he used to seal Stardust Dragon in his card. (Which could be a nod to Wisel's Synchro monster absorb ability.) It would explain why he said "I have been waiting for a long time!" as well. His love for experimenting is from his time as Placido, trying to experiment with Ghost to find out Yusei's capabilities, or attempting to destroy Team 5D's. Not to mention it would be a real kicker for people like me who felt sympathetic for Paradox, but I guess that would put even more emphasis on "Jerkass" in Jerkass Woobie.

And here is this image:



There are facts that contradict the theory, however. First of all, Paradox's and Placido's eyes are of a different shape, Placido retains his eye shape even in his butler form. Next, Paradox uses a Synchro Monster, something Placido was clearly against. (Then again, the Ghost army uses Ally of Justice monsters...) Paradox doesn't know or have anything against Illiaster, but it is not known if he did anything else apart from the movie's events. The way Placido and Paradox dresses is entirely different as well. (I mean... nipple spikes.) And Placido seems to be more robot oriented than Paradox - Placido's abilities and acts are tied to robots (Ghost, Diablo series, Placido's "Ultimate Form", Machine Emperor Wisel, and his looks are a bit... robot like) while Paradox is more monster centric (using monsters to attack Judai and Domino City, fusing with Sin Truth). And Placido and Paradox have different voice actors, although Tamura's and Placido's VA's voice sound a bit similar.

Waow ! I never thought at this theory ! That's true on the picture theres some similarities. But sevaral things contradits this also like you noticed. It's also a very interesting idea !




I was thinking about Atsushi Tamura's words: "they don't recongnize their own selves". This sentence seems me revelator on Paradox's destiny:

In several books, I saw often this sentence used by good characters who turns in the Darkness path. At two particulars moments:

- When they did bad actions and understanding consequences

- When they defeated by a friend or someone near and they recording all bad actions they did.

At this moment, there three possibilities:

- It's the redemption of characters: he saves himself and return to his old self. People who are against him - often his friends - forgive him and the character become happy.

- The character dies in recongnzing his mistakes

- He continues in this dark path, estimating he doing is necessary even If his acts hurts his consciousness and his heart.

Toward Paradox, I think the first possibility seems more probable. Atsushi Tamura had mentionned he "struggling with grief" accrediting this possibility. Because of Pegasus, because the game he had created, the world is destroyed. Feels angry against him is logical: If Pegasus hasn't never existed, the world wouldn't been destroyed and he would be still happy in his future. There the mask he bears: he seems say he was happy before and tragedy is happened, probably the destruction of world. In that case the sadness of acts he must do is written on his mask: he must kill peoples, this hurts his heart and his consciousness but he hasn't the choice. He must do it to save the world It's an obligation. And when Yusei will do take him consciousness of this, Paradox will looked in his past, his life and analyze his acts with the person he should be and understand he isn't himself, he isn't someone who acts of this way.

Perhaps it will be different, I don't know, It's my interpretation of theses sentances.

[Rikku-chan]

Hmm. Interesting that you bring Ishizu and her Millennium Item in here. However, I don't see how Kaiba winning that duel would alter the outcome of Battle City, especially the world itself in the long run.

Well the theroy is that if an event is changed than the whole future is changed.

[Prismamaster]

Why did paradox even bother attack judai?Paradox could had just went to pegasus.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I was thinking about Atsushi Tamura's words: "they don't recognize their own selves". This sentence seems me revelatory on Paradox's destiny:

In several books, I saw often this sentence used by good characters who turns in the Darkness path. At two particulars moments:

- When they did bad actions and understanding consequences

- When they defeated by a friend or someone near and they recording all bad actions they did.

At this moment, there three possibilities:

- It's the redemption of characters: he saves himself and return to his old self. People who are against him - often his friends - forgive him and the character become happy.

- The character dies in recognizing his mistakes

- He continues in this dark path, estimating he doing is necessary even If his acts hurts his consciousness and his heart.

Toward Paradox, I think the first possibility seems more probable. Atsushi Tamura had mentioned he "struggling with grief" accrediting this possibility. Because of Pegasus, because the game he had created, the world is destroyed. Feels angry against him is logical: If Pegasus hasn't never existed, the world wouldn't been destroyed and he would be still happy in his future. There the mask he bears: he seems say he was happy before and tragedy is happened, probably the destruction of world. In that case the sadness of acts he must do is written on his mask: he must kill peoples, this hurts his heart and his consciousness but he hasn't the choice. He must do it to save the world It's an obligation. And when Yusei will do take him consciousness of this, Paradox will looked in his past, his life and analyze his acts with the person he should be and understand he isn't himself, he isn't someone who acts of this way.

Perhaps it will be different, I don't know, It's my interpretation of theses sentences.

That does make sense. Paradox is a textbook case and goes through these stages quite well. His "Dark Path" is slightly cliche, but if it works abuse it. Or bl;ow it up, if your name is Adam, Jamie, Tory, Kari or Grant.

[Makoeyes987]

I really don't think we should be looking at a 10th Anniversary movie of the franchise, for answers to plot holes of a current arc that's still being fleshed out.

That's looking retroactively for answers to questions that haven't even fully been asked.

I honestly don't even think Paradox or Yilaster are even connected, to be honest. Their entire aims and goals are completely different from what we've seen so far. Paradox is from a far off future which has been eradicated. Yilaster seems to be trying to manipulate current events to serve their own ambitions right now. Using robot people. Playing card games at a duel tournament. They seem to have much more current ambitions compared to Paradox who's almost from a time period in another era. Whatever design similarities Paradox and Placido share seem to be coincidental and indicative of the current animator, just like how Paradox and Dark Fubuki have some design motifs in common.

I certainly don't think there's even anything remotely altruistic or misguided going through Yilaster's mind, let alone the possible calamity that results from whatever incident that leads to the ruination of Paradox's time period. Yilaster seems to be exploiting the Grand Prix for something a lot more personal and towards their collective ambition.

And Paradox's future being created by Kaiba winning a duel against an unrelated opponent? Unless you're going for the whole "Butterfly Effect" theory (which seems to be the case), that seems just completely out from left field, from a storyline perspective. Not quite seeing any coherency in that one. If they were going to try to tie in Paradox to the current series now, I doubt they would go backwards to DM and somehow tie it in to a preliminary match several years ago in the past, that had no real bearing whatsoever to the current storyline. It'd be much more logical and relevant to make it something connected to the current time of 5Ds. Not to mention more marketable. Paradox's whole conflict seems about as far removed from the Ancient Egyptian roots of the story, as does 5Ds and its fetish for androids and synchro summons.

It seems like the theorizing has branched off so far from the roots of the tree that they've become completely new plants in the process. XD

[Arynis]

I was thinking about Atsushi Tamura's words: "they don't recongnize their own selves". This sentence seems me revelator on Paradox's destiny:

In several books, I saw often this sentence used by good characters who turns in the Darkness path. At two particulars moments:

- When they did bad actions and understanding consequences

- When they defeated by a friend or someone near and they recording all bad actions they did.

At this moment, there three possibilities:

- It's the redemption of characters: he saves himself and return to his old self. People who are against him - often his friends - forgive him and the character become happy.

- The character dies in recongnzing his mistakes

- He continues in this dark path, estimating he doing is necessary even If his acts hurts his consciousness and his heart.

Toward Paradox, I think the first possibility seems more probable. Atsushi Tamura had mentionned he "struggling with grief" accrediting this possibility. Because of Pegasus, because the game he had created, the world is destroyed. Feels angry against him is logical: If Pegasus hasn't never existed, the world wouldn't been destroyed and he would be still happy in his future. There the mask he bears: he seems say he was happy before and tragedy is happened, probably the destruction of world. In that case the sadness of acts he must do is written on his mask: he must kill peoples, this hurts his heart and his consciousness but he hasn't the choice. He must do it to save the world It's an obligation. And when Yusei will do take him consciousness of this, Paradox will looked in his past, his life and analyze his acts with the person he should be and understand he isn't himself, he isn't someone who acts of this way.

Perhaps it will be different, I don't know, It's my interpretation of theses sentances.

Ooooh, very interesting interpretations on those lines, Allana. Your explanation of Paradox's mask is pretty good, too.

Paradox may have been aware of what he was doing. He definitely believes in his own beliefs, seeing how he calls Yusei's "people can change" belief nonsense. But in a way, this is another throwback to GX and Darkness, for both of them: "The will of one human cannot change the ways of this world." Thinking about this, not only Paradox's efforts are futile, but so is everyone's. Pretty tragic. Several characters try to screw fate/form their own lives with varying success. Or even if they manage to overcome life's difficulties, the world/fate/whatnot bites them in the rear. But on the other hand, sometimes it's just one person making a difference in the Yugiohverse, as some of them demonstrated (Pegasus, for example), which would put Darkness' line into doubt.

I'd go with the "The character dies in recognizing his mistakes" variation, seeing how Paradox seemed to regret his doings. "My experiments were wrong?" clinches it.

Well the theroy is that if an event is changed than the whole future is changed.

Ah-a! You mean the Butterfly Effect? Although in theory, that would mean any change during the series would result in a different future. Technically however, Kaiba winning or losing would indeed create two different timelines, but the issue is how Kaiba winning or losing would influence the world in a long run. (See In Spite Of A Nail.) Could you elaborate?

Why did paradox even bother attack judai?Paradox could had just went to pegasus.

Well... that is what I said.

But there could be several reasons.

A) Going by the information and the summaries, we don't know how they ran into each other - I think it was said Judai was investigating a local issue, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Or regardless of the issue, it may have been Judai who ran into Paradox, who then started fighting back, chasing Judai into a corner who then was forced to retreat (as we see him running from Paradox's attack). Then Judai held up Paradox long enough for Yusei to arrive and cause Paradox into hastening his plan and going into the past.

B) Paradox had a back-up plan - judging by his dialogue, he knew/was aware of Judai, since he acknoledges his powers. He may have thought of Judai interfering, so he decided to kill him or at least severely wound him, putting him out of fight. Funnily enough, this is what led to the protagonists uniting in the end, leading to Paradox's downfall. Then again, all villains have had some kind of a mistake - for example, if Pegasus hadn't fused Relinquished with Thousand-Eyes Idol into Thousand-Eyes Restrict, he may have won as Yugi could not have used Kuriboh to render it useless. But Pegasus did it as a safety measure, as "the same trick wouldn't work twice" on Yugi, thus doing the fusion. That very act, while a valid thought process, is the reason for his downfall.

C) Paradox may have needed to obtain even more dragon cards (Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon) to make sure he could assault Pegasus at full force but ran into Judai.

D) Meta reason: Judai had to be tied into the plot somehow, and the writers had them get into a fight in Venice.

That does make sense. Paradox is a textbook case and goes through these stages quite well. His "Dark Path" is slightly cliche, but if it works abuse it. Or bl;ow it up, if your name is Adam, Jamie, Tory, Kari or Grant.

I don't know what you're making a reference to (D: ), but several YGO villains did go down a dark path, willingly or unwillingly.

I really don't think we should be looking at a 10th Anniversary movie of the franchise, for answers to plot holes of a current arc that's still being fleshed out.

That's looking retroactively for answers to questions that haven't even fully been asked.

But we have time travel! *drumroll* Alright, I'm kidding.

I honestly don't even think Paradox or Yilaster are even connected, to be honest. Their entire aims and goals are completely different from what we've seen so far. Paradox is from a far off future which has been eradicated. Yilaster seems to be trying to manipulate current events to serve their own ambitions right now. Using robot people. Playing card games at a duel tournament. They seem to have much more current ambitions compared to Paradox who's almost from a time period in another era. Whatever design similarities Paradox and Placido share seem to be coincidental and indicative of the current animator, just like how Paradox and Dark Fubuki have some design motifs in common.

I certainly don't think there's even anything remotely altruistic or misguided going through Yilaster's mind, let alone the possible calamity that results from whatever incident that leads to the ruination of Paradox's time period. Yilaster seems to be exploiting the Grand Prix for something a lot more personal and towards their collective ambition.

Yeah, you're right. Personally I do want (and wish) that Paradox is indeed an unique character and not related to any currently existing character and that his time period, while may be tied to the current plot, is entirely independent from the current arc. I just gave it a thought and elaborated on the Paradox/Placido theory.

And Paradox's future being created by Kaiba winning a duel against an unrelated opponent? Unless you're going for the whole "Butterfly Effect" theory (which seems to be the case), that seems just completely out from left field, from a storyline perspective. Not quite seeing any coherency in that one. If they were going to try to tie in Paradox to the current series now, I doubt they would go backwards to DM and somehow tie it in to a preliminary match several years ago in the past, that had no real bearing whatsoever to the current storyline. It'd be much more logical and relevant to make it something connected to the current time of 5Ds. Not to mention more marketable. Paradox's whole conflict seems about as far removed from the Ancient Egyptian roots of the story, as does 5Ds and its fetish for androids and synchro summons.

Exactly.

It seems like the theorizing has branched off so far from the roots of the tree that they've become completely new plants in the process. XD

Hey, there's nothing wrong with having a garden of Epileptic Trees. Grow dem plants I say! XD

But hey, that's how things go! *nods sagely*

[remaner]

But we have time travel! *drumroll* Alright, I'm kidding.

That's the author's way to explain the plot holes, with time travel: Paradox did it, basically. *shot several times*

[DarkDust_Dragon]

There could be several reasons.

A) Going by the information and the summaries, we don't know how they ran into each other - I think it was said Judai was investigating a local issue, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Or regardless of the issue, it may have been Judai who ran into Paradox, who then started fighting back, chasing Judai into a corner who then was forced to retreat (as we see him running from Paradox's attack). Then Judai held up Paradox long enough for Yusei to arrive and cause Paradox into hastening his plan and going into the past.

B) Paradox had a back-up plan - judging by his dialogue, he knew/was aware of Judai, since he acknoledges his powers. He may have thought of Judai interfering, so he decided to kill him or at least severely wound him, putting him out of fight. Funnily enough, this is what led to the protagonists uniting in the end, leading to Paradox's downfall. Then again, all villains have had some kind of a mistake - for example, if Pegasus hadn't fused Relinquished with Thousand-Eyes Idol into Thousand-Eyes Restrict, he may have won as Yugi could not have used Kuriboh to render it useless. But Pegasus did it as a safety measure, as "the same trick wouldn't work twice" on Yugi, thus doing the fusion. That very act, while a valid thought process, is the reason for his downfall.

C) Paradox may have needed to obtain even more dragon cards (Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon) to make sure he could assault Pegasus at full force but ran into Judai.

D) Meta reason: Judai had to be tied into the plot somehow, and the writers had them get into a fight in Venice.

I believe that all four are true. Judai was powerful, was investigating something, Paradox was after dragons, and Judai had to be worked in one way or another. Perhaps he wanted a Sin Yubel - Das Extremer Traurig Drachen?

I don't know what you're making a reference to (D: ), but several YGO villains did go down a dark path, willingly or unwillingly.

That one was a Mythbusters reference thrown in for humour.

Yeah, you're right. Personally I do want (and wish) that Paradox is indeed an unique character and not related to any currently existing character and that his time period, while may be tied to the current plot, is entirely independent from the current arc. I just gave it a thought and elaborated on the Paradox/Placido theory.

That would be best, but having a connection would be fun.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with having a garden of Epileptic Trees. Grow dem plants I say! XD

But hey, that's how things go! *nods sagely*

Exactly. We're showing insight.

[Arynis]

I believe that all four are true. Judai was powerful, was investigating something, Paradox was after dragons, and Judai had to be worked in one way or another. Perhaps he wanted a Sin Yubel - Das Extremer Traurig Drachen?

Funny that you mention that - there's a small following on Pixiv who enjoy drawing Sin Yubel.

That one was a Mythbusters reference thrown in for humour.

Ahh. No wonder I didn't get it, the show isn't being broadcast over here... it's a shame, because from what I have seen of it, it is awesome.

That would be best, but having a connection would be fun.

Aye. But as Makoeyes said, we are sorely lacking in the clues department. Stupid Guns are still hanging on the wall.

Exactly. We're showing insight.

Indeed! But you gotta keep a look on those trees - if they are Sudowoodo, prepare to get hit in the face by those mimickers. Ouch.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Funny that you mention that - there's a small following on Pixiv who enjoy drawing Sin Yubel.

I've tried a couple times, but the horns on the dragon heads are a pain in the ass.

Aye. But as Makoeyes said, we are sorely lacking in the clues department. Stupid Guns are still hanging on the wall.

Exactly why I became a fanfiction writer; I can make up the answer.

[Arynis]

I've tried a couple times, but the horns on the dragon heads are a pain in the ass.

Yeah, the third form's design is pretty complicated. The group of people I mentioned draw Sin Yubel in her normal form, though.

Exactly why I became a fanfiction writer; I can make up the answer.

Heheh. And that is why I love writing theories and essays myself. ^^ (I don't have the confidence to write fanfiction, though.)

On a side note, this Pixiv fanart is rather hilarious. Seriously, what was Kagami thinking when he designed Paradox's outfit? XD

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yeah, the third form's design is pretty complicated. The group of people I mentioned draw Sin Yubel in her normal form, though.

Wow. That sounds really cool. Got the URL for that?

Heheh. And that is why I love writing theories and essays myself. ^^ (I don't have the confidence to write fanfiction, though.)

On a side note, this Pixiv fanart is rather hilarious. Seriously, what was Kagami thinking when he designed Paradox's outfit? XD

You and I could collaborate on a fanfic. Some of the stuff I've written is pretty similar to the theories here, others based on my own lunacy.

[Allana]

Ooooh, very interesting interpretations on those lines, Allana. Your explanation of Paradox's mask is pretty good, too.

Paradox may have been aware of what he was doing. He definitely believes in his own beliefs, seeing how he calls Yusei's "people can change" belief nonsense. But in a way, this is another throwback to GX and Darkness, for both of them: "The will of one human cannot change the ways of this world." Thinking about this, not only Paradox's efforts are futile, but so is everyone's. Pretty tragic. Several characters try to screw fate/form their own lives with varying success. Or even if they manage to overcome life's difficulties, the world/fate/whatnot bites them in the rear. But on the other hand, sometimes it's just one person making a difference in the Yugiohverse, as some of them demonstrated (Pegasus, for example), which would put Darkness' line into doubt.

I'd go with the "The character dies in recognizing his mistakes" variation, seeing how Paradox seemed to regret his doings. "My experiments were wrong?" clinches it.



Ah-a! You mean the Butterfly Effect? Although in theory, that would mean any change during the series would result in a different future. Technically however, Kaiba winning or losing would indeed create two different timelines, but the issue is how Kaiba winning or losing would influence the world in a long run. (See In Spite Of A Nail.) Could you elaborate?



Well... that is what I said.

But there could be several reasons.

A) Going by the information and the summaries, we don't know how they ran into each other - I think it was said Judai was investigating a local issue, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Or regardless of the issue, it may have been Judai who ran into Paradox, who then started fighting back, chasing Judai into a corner who then was forced to retreat (as we see him running from Paradox's attack). Then Judai held up Paradox long enough for Yusei to arrive and cause Paradox into hastening his plan and going into the past.

B) Paradox had a back-up plan - judging by his dialogue, he knew/was aware of Judai, since he acknoledges his powers. He may have thought of Judai interfering, so he decided to kill him or at least severely wound him, putting him out of fight. Funnily enough, this is what led to the protagonists uniting in the end, leading to Paradox's downfall. Then again, all villains have had some kind of a mistake - for example, if Pegasus hadn't fused Relinquished with Thousand-Eyes Idol into Thousand-Eyes Restrict, he may have won as Yugi could not have used Kuriboh to render it useless. But Pegasus did it as a safety measure, as "the same trick wouldn't work twice" on Yugi, thus doing the fusion. That very act, while a valid thought process, is the reason for his downfall.

C) Paradox may have needed to obtain even more dragon cards (Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon) to make sure he could assault Pegasus at full force but ran into Judai.

D) Meta reason: Judai had to be tied into the plot somehow, and the writers had them get into a fight in Venice.



I don't know what you're making a reference to (D: ), but several YGO villains did go down a dark path, willingly or unwillingly.



But we have time travel! *drumroll* Alright, I'm kidding.



Yeah, you're right. Personally I do want (and wish) that Paradox is indeed an unique character and not related to any currently existing character and that his time period, while may be tied to the current plot, is entirely independent from the current arc. I just gave it a thought and elaborated on the Paradox/Placido theory.



Exactly.



Hey, there's nothing wrong with having a garden of Epileptic Trees. Grow dem plants I say! XD

But hey, that's how things go! *nods sagely*

Toward the movie, you're right: he dies in recongnizing his mistakes. Toward 5d's anime, the first seems me more probable.

The B possibility seems me more logical. Paradox knows Judai's powers so Judai is an obstacle on his path.

I thought again at Placido's theory and there a problem: the way to act. Placido is someone impatient like his line show it "I want do thing of my own way" which mean Ghost army to accelerate the Circuit's completion. Paradox is the opposite: It's someone quiet, who think, reflets and foresee things. It can't correspond. When someone tries to hide his way to acts,- Here the impatient nature of Placido - there always which betray it: a word, a gesture or even simply a look. Or, Paradox seems never show impatientce during the duel or before. Pus, I imagine Paradox like a solitary man. Placido seems not correspond even there some similiraties with Paradox's har - similarities who can be the goal of the designers to do us suppose that Paradox is Placido to better surprise us when Paradox's true identity will ba reavealed.

@ Dark_Dust Dragon: Interesting montage on your avatar !

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Why didn't neos block stardust dragon's attack?Was stardust dragon stonger than neos or did neos get tired because of rainbow dragon's and cyber end dragon's attacks?

[Lia]

Why didn't neos block stardust dragon's attack?Was stardust dragon stonger than neos or did neos get tired because of rainbow dragon's and cyber end dragon's attacks?

Judai used Neos as a defense against Stardust. As far as I know Stardust has 2500 ATK and Neos has only 2000 DEF, so I guess if the Crimson Dragon hadn't blocked Stardust's attack, Neos would've been destroyed.