Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Another thing which has been bugging me a lot is Paradox's shoulderpads. He wears them up until the beginning of the duel. He's wearing it while he talks to the protagonists, but as soon as the duel starts, they disappear without explanation. Like, one scene, he wears it. Next scene, poof gone! What was up with that? The cloth(?) hanging from his shoulderpads resemble the Sin Monsters' Sin armor a lot, so I assumed he kind of materialized them for himself... but that doesn't explain why they just disappear. Unless said "cloth" = his long locks of hair.

Uhm, there's also the scene where Yugi activates the Duel Disk: while he's doing it he's wearing his jacket on his arm (and the Duel Disk is on the jacket), while in the following scene he's wearing the jacket as a cape and the sleeves are floating around. It might be an animation error, or he pulled a Kaiba and threw the shoulderpads away in a dramatic fashion to make himself more comfortable while drawing the cards/please the fans.
Then, in the last case, he would totally won the contest for the craziest anime hair ever.

My guess is that it was a simple oversight by the animators. There's a scene in 5D's Ep. 70 where the Duel Disc on Ghost Boy's arm moves around quite a bit, which demonstrates that these things happen.

[chrisedomaster]

Some nice Artworks.^^

[Lia]

Like you noticed remaner, It's a good new animators had understood Atem is as tall as Yugi ! It's the first time since the beginning ! Good new Arynis !

It's not the first time. DM had a lot such moments, especially in Season 5. That was most obvious in episode 224, so this definitely isn't the first time.

[Arynis]

My guess is that it was a simple oversight by the animators. There's a scene in 5D's Ep. 70 where the Duel Disc on Ghost Boy's arm moves around quite a bit, which demonstrates that these things happen.

Yeah, but an oversight lasting for half of the movie? Isn't that too much? However, the concept art of unmasked Paradox shows him without his shoulderpads, so I assume the effect was indeed intentional. Hmm...

Maybe it's really just meant to mimic the Sin monsters, as in how they have the mask and the wing armor. Paradox had his mask and locks of hair "armor". You can see it best here. After Paradox took off his mask, the shoulderpads disappeared shortly after.

...Or Paradox is so badass he can materialize his own outfit at will. XD "I look badass with shoulderpads!" [A while later...] "Nah! I need no shoulderpads now! And I still look badass!"

[YYugi]

Another thing which has been bugging me a lot is Paradox's shoulderpads. He wears them up until the beginning of the duel. He's wearing it while he talks to the protagonists, but as soon as the duel starts, they disappear without explanation. Like, one scene, he wears it. Next scene, poof gone! What was up with that? The cloth(?) hanging from his shoulderpads resemble the Sin Monsters' Sin armor a lot, so I assumed he kind of materialized them for himself... but that doesn't explain why they just disappear. Unless said "cloth" = his long locks of hair.

I say its cloth ^^

Uhm, there's also the scene where Yugi activates the Duel Disk: while he's doing it he's wearing his jacket on his arm (and the Duel Disk is on the jacket), while in the following scene he's wearing the jacket as a cape and the sleeves are floating around. It might be an animation error, or he pulled a Kaiba and threw the shoulderpads away in a dramatic fashion to make himself more comfortable while drawing the cards/please the fans.
Then, in the last case, he would totally won the contest for the craziest anime hair ever.

About Yugi�s sleeve, it got fixed in the movie, see the second special of AxA.

And thanks to chrisedomaster for the scans. Also, the animators finally realized that Atem is as tall as Yugi, and not his bigger brother. Joy.

Not quite, Yugi is still a little bit shorter.

[kidichi_94]

thanx for scans to us!
I think I make long times to scan it, right?

p/s : I'm late again

Then, in the last case, he would totally won the contest for the craziest anime hair ever.

oh, I think Yusei had the craziest hair, and Judai is normal one..

[remaner]

Not quite, Yugi is still a little bit shorter.

Yes, but at least they don't look like two totally different people...

[cookie]

LOL Bruno looks funny when he's angry and I laughed at Jose's clothes for no reason
I don't know if this was mentioned or not, but I noticed that Paradox has a purple aura around his duel disk that bears a striking resemblance to Aki's aura (in Psychic Mode)

Maybe it relates to the possibility that he is a psychic duelist. If not, I don't know what it is.

[YYugi]

Yes, but at least they don't look like two totally different people...

Thats true, they look better that way ^^

LOL Bruno looks funny when he's angry and I laughed at Jose's clothes for no reason
I don't know if this was mentioned or not, but I noticed that Paradox has a purple aura around his duel disk that bears a striking resemblance to Aki's aura (in Psychic Mode)

Maybe it relates to the possibility that he is a psychic duelist. If not, I don't know what it is.

Or maybe how his duel disk has evil cards.

[Lung]

I upload the Scanns on photobucket at the moment. Janime upload it later on Janime.net. BUT ATTENTION! I Only have scann all Sites about the Movie & Interviews and some Sites from the Anime. The other sites from the anime are coming later. Sorry guys but my back is hurting cause of the damn scanner Oh and my Video are online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikqUJTHxqaE


If the Scanns are complete uploadet,you will find it here:
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/n...Book%20Scanns/

Omg, scanned book is love *0*

Thank you so much for sharing these ~ <33

*Cough* Erm yeah...just a thanking post, and adding that I shall remain excited for this movie....until I see it of course =3

[Arynis]

LOL Bruno looks funny when he's angry and I laughed at Jose's clothes for no reason
I don't know if this was mentioned or not, but I noticed that Paradox has a purple aura around his duel disk that bears a striking resemblance to Aki's aura (in Psychic Mode)

Maybe it relates to the possibility that he is a psychic duelist. If not, I don't know what it is.

I mentioned this possibility to Makoeyes in our conversation, but the aura isn't present all time when Psychic Powers are used. Besides, didn't Aki and Divine themselves use their powers without any aura showing it? (Although I recall Aki glowing a few times.) While Paradox's powers might resemble Psychic powers, no one outright stated it. Yusei would at least recognize it because of having met and known Divine and Aki. He did witness Venice being attacked by Paradox, after all.

Also, Newwise BBS, Post 2208. XYZ Dragon Cannon pointed out something interesting (circles mean unidentified/unreadable kanjis, I assume):



主催:ワールド･ライディング・デュエル・グランプリ委員会

協賛:ペガサス・J・クロフォード記念財団
　　　The Bolger & Company
　　　株式会社ガラムモータース
　　　万丈目デジタルエンタテイメント株式会社
　　　千里眼ネットワークシステムズ株式会社
　　　株式会社シュレイダー・トイズ・ジャパン

協力:ネオ童実野シティ 治安維持局
　　　ネオ童実野シティ 遺跡公園
　　　ネオ童実野シティ D・ホイール振興会

World Riding Duel Grand Prix Committee:

Pegasus J. Crawford Memory Foundation
The Bolger & Company
I can't really identify the others' exact names, but they are the Garam Group, Manjoume Group, Schroider's company and Senrigan Group (They were involved in the OjaManjoume business from Season 4, as far as I can recall).

This is interesting both plot-wise and it's a great clue for establishing the timeline - Pegasus is dead by this point, apparently.

[Allana]

I mentioned this possibility to Makoeyes in our conversation, but the aura isn't present all time when Psychic Powers are used. Besides, didn't Aki and Divine themselves use their powers without any aura showing it? (Although I recall Aki glowing a few times.) While Paradox's powers might resemble Psychic powers, no one outright stated it. Yusei would at least recognize it because of having met and known Divine and Aki. He did witness Venice being attacked by Paradox, after all.

Also, Newwise BBS, Post 2208. XYZ Dragon Cannon pointed out something interesting (circles mean unidentified/unreadable kanjis, I assume):



ワールド･ライディング・デュエル・グランプリ委員会

ペガサス・J・クロフォード○○○○
The Bolger & Company
株式会社ガラムモータース
万丈目デジタルエンタテイメント株式会社
千里眼ネットワークシステムズ株式会社
株式会社シュレイザー・トイズ・ジャパン

ネオ童実野シティ○○○○
ネオ童実野シティ○○○○○
ネオ童実野シティD・ホイール○○○

World Riding Duel Grand Prix Committee:

Pegasus J. Crawford
The Bolger & Company
I can't really identify the others' exact names, but they are the Garam Group, Manjoume Group, Schroider's company and Senrigan Group (They were involved in the OjaManjoume business from Season 4, as far as I can recall).

This is interesting both plot-wise and it's a great clue for establishing the timeline - Pegasus being involved with the tournament must mean he's still alive. For reference, he was 34 years old at the end of GX. (Crossposted this part to the timeline thread as well.)

Good eye Arynis ! Very very interesting ! Maybe Pegasus is still alive ? Amon and Manjoume are also presents. Funny to see Schroider Group, the rival of Kaiba Corporation. KC, which, curiously don't appear. However, KC had organised Fortune Cup. Maybe they don't implies in WRGP because the rivality with SG ?

[kidichi_94]

maybe KC and SG had be friend now?
they should show Pegasus, Yugi or someone related there

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yeah, but an oversight lasting for half of the movie? Isn't that too much? However, the concept art of unmasked Paradox shows him without his shoulderpads, so I assume the effect was indeed intentional. Hmm...

Maybe it's really just meant to mimic the Sin monsters, as in how they have the mask and the wing armor. Paradox had his mask and locks of hair "armor". You can see it best here. After Paradox took off his mask, the shoulderpads disappeared shortly after.

...Or Paradox is so badass he can materialize his own outfit at will. XD "I look badass with shoulderpads!" [A while later...] "Nah! I need no shoulderpads now! And I still look badass!"

My guess for the Yami Yugi oversight is that they forgot to draw/put in the scene where he took the coat off and didn't notice. The explanation for Paradox does make sense though.

I mentioned this possibility to Makoeyes in our conversation, but the aura isn't present all time when Psychic Powers are used. Besides, didn't Aki and Divine themselves use their powers without any aura showing it? (Although I recall Aki glowing a few times.) While Paradox's powers might resemble Psychic powers, no one outright stated it. Yusei would at least recognize it because of having met and known Divine and Aki. He did witness Venice being attacked by Paradox, after all.

Also, Newwise BBS, Post 2208. XYZ Dragon Cannon pointed out something interesting (circles mean unidentified/unreadable kanjis, I assume):

Spoiler: Big Image

ワールド･ライディング・デュエル・グランプリ委員会

ペガサス・J・クロフォード○○○○
The Bolger & Company
株式会社ガラムモータース
万丈目デジタルエンタテイメント株式会社
千里眼ネットワークシステムズ株式会社
株式会社シュレイザー・トイズ・ジャパン

ネオ童実野シティ○○○○
ネオ童実野シティ○○○○○
ネオ童実野シティD・ホイール○○○

World Riding Duel Grand Prix Committee:

Pegasus J. Crawford
The Bolger & Company
I can't really identify the others' exact names, but they are the Garam Group, Manjoume Group, Schroider's company and Senrigan Group (They were involved in the OjaManjoume business from Season 4, as far as I can recall).

This is interesting both plot-wise and it's a great clue for establishing the timeline - Pegasus being involved with the tournament must mean he's still alive. For reference, he was 34 years old at the end of GX. (Crossposted this part to the timeline thread as well.)

And here I was thinking all the original characters died in Zero Reverse (it was really starting to seem that way). This is interesting; they're finally tying this series into the other two.

Hey, didn't Amon never come back from the other World after Yubel beat him? Maybe he came back, or maybe the Garam Group was just looking for some good publicity. And Shroider? That was... random. Too bad Doma wasn't still around to pitch in; that would've been interesting.

[chrisedomaster]

I have scanned and upload some new Sites. (Nothing with the Movie but nice sites from the Anime series with nice pictures)
Like this: http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/scan0034.jpg
Or this: http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/scan0001.jpg (Darkness naked lol!)

That site is nice too: http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/scan0035.jpg

8 new sites aviable. If you like to watch them all: http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/n...Book%20Scanns/

[Allana]

My guess for the Yami Yugi oversight is that they forgot to draw/put in the scene where he took the coat off and didn't notice. The explanation for Paradox does make sense though.



And here I was thinking all the original characters died in Zero Reverse (it was really starting to seem that way). This is interesting; they're finally tying this series into the other two.

Hey, didn't Amon never come back from the other World after Yubel beat him? Maybe he came back, or maybe the Garam Group was just looking for some good publicity. And Shroider? That was... random.Too bad Doma wasn't still around to pitch in; that would've been interesting.

You're right, Amon isn't come back. Maybe his family continues to rule the group ? Maybe they want to show all others groups exists always ? I'm sure you're idea about Doma would have been exact If the group hadn't been destroyed.

EDIT: Thanks a lot chrisedomaster !

[remaner]

Also, Newwise BBS, Post 2208. XYZ Dragon Cannon pointed out something interesting (circles mean unidentified/unreadable kanjis, I assume):

Spoiler: Picture

[...]
ペガサス・J・クロフォード○○○○


World Riding Duel Grand Prix Committee:

Pegasus J. Crawford
[...]

This is interesting both plot-wise and it's a great clue for establishing the timeline - Pegasus being involved with the tournament must mean he's still alive. For reference, he was 34 years old at the end of GX. (Crossposted this part to the timeline thread as well.)

I looked for those kanjis after Pegasus' name, and they're very likely to be 紀念財団 (kinen zaidan), and it means "Memory foundation".

Sorry to break this news to you like this, but during 5D's Pegasus is no more among us, condolences.

[Arynis]

And here I was thinking all the original characters died in Zero Reverse (it was really starting to seem that way). This is interesting; they're finally tying this series into the other two.

Hey, didn't Amon never come back from the other World after Yubel beat him? Maybe he came back, or maybe the Garam Group was just looking for some good publicity. And Shroider? That was... random. Too bad Doma wasn't still around to pitch in; that would've been interesting.

Indeed. Although it could be possible that several characters may have been abroad at the time, or have their HQ somewhere else? Although I'm not a pro in GX... And I agree, it is nice that (more) references to the other series are appearing as well.

Wasn't Garam's original heir Shido, though? As for Doma, I believe Dartz's company was Paradias (Or Paradise?), but Dartz was taken down by Yugi and Dark Yugi, so it must have fallen apart or vanished.

One thing that I find interesting is how it's only Pegasus who is listed, and not "Industrial Illusions" or "Pegasus J. Crawford - Industrial Illusions". Then again, Pegasus is the Creator of Duel Monsters, and listing him alone makes sense regardless.

I looked for those kanjis after Pegasus' name, and they're very likely to be 紀念財団 (kinen zaidan), and it means "Memory foundation".

Sorry to break this news to you like this, but during 5D's Pegasus is no more among us, condolences.

...Or not. XD So Pegasus isn't alive by the time of 5D's. Hmm...

[Lia]

I have scanned and upload some new Sites. (Nothing with the Movie but nice sites from the Anime series with nice pictures)
Like this: http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/scan0001.jpg (Darkness naked lol!)

Thanks for the new scans. Heh.....I see that Dark Yugi is also included in the GX's characters preview....cool pic indeed. ^_^

[Allana]

I looked for those kanjis after Pegasus' name, and they're very likely to be 紀念財団 (kinen zaidan), and it means "Memory foundation".

Sorry to break this news to you like this, but during 5D's Pegasus is no more among us, condolences.

Thanks for the accurate translation remaner ! Pegasus is officially died in 5d's. Maybe in Zero Reverse ? Illness ? Accident ? All is possible.
It's an interesting information for the timeline even we don't know when he is died.

[Arynis]

Thanks for the accurate translation remaner ! Pegasus is officially died in 5d's. Maybe in Zero Reverse ? Illness ? Accident ? All is possible.
It's an interesting information for the timeline.

It can't be Zero Reverse since Pegasus is American, and I2 is founded in the USA, unless Pegasus happened to participate in an event in Japan (similarly to the movie). Illness and accident could be possible, however.

That explains why I2 wasn't ever brought up. Seeing how Dr. Fudo made the Dragon cards, it could be likely that KC took over I2's job? How funny, seeing how Pegasus himself wanted Kaiba's company for himself.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Indeed. Although it could be possible that several characters may have been abroad at the time, or have their HQ somewhere else? Although I'm not a pro in GX... And I agree, it is nice that (more) references to the other series are appearing as well.

Wasn't Garam's original heir Shido, though? A

s for Doma, I believe Dartz's company was Paradias (Or Paradise?), but Dartz was taken down by Yugi and Dark Yugi, so it must have fallen apart or vanished. One thing that I find interesting is how it's only Pegasus who is listed, and not "Industrial Illusions" or "Pegasus J. Crawford - Industrial Illusions". Then again, Pegasus is the Creator of Duel Monsters, and listing him alone makes sense regardless. ...Or not. XD So Pegasus isn't alive by the time of 5D's. Hmm...

Shido was their biological heir, but he was born after Amon was adopted. AS for Dartz's Organization, it;'s caklled Paradias in the Dub but Doma in Japan.

I looked for those kanjis after Pegasus' name, and they're very likely to be 紀念財団 (kinen zaidan), and it means "Memory foundation".

Sorry to break this news to you like this, but during 5D's Pegasus is no more among us, condolences.

My condolences as well. Perhaps he can finally be reunited with his wife.

[Ryusaki]

I'm somewhat surprised that 5D's showed us that Pegasus is dead in such a subtle, obscure way. It's cool, just seems very offhand.

Shido was their biological heir, but he was born after Amon was adopted. AS for Dartz's Organization, it;'s caklled Paradias in the Dub but Doma in Japan.

I believe it's Paradeus or something in Japan. Doma and Paradeus are different aspects of Dartz's organisations. I believe Paradeus is the public front.

[Allana]

It can't be Zero Reverse since Pegasus is American, and I2 is founded in the USA, unless Pegasus happened to participate in an event in Japan (similarly to the movie). Illness and accident could be possible, however.

That explains why I2 wasn't ever brought up. Seeing how Dr. Fudo made the Dragon cards, it could be likely that KC took over I2's job? How funny, seeing how Pegasus himself wanted Kaiba's company for himself.

You're right. I thought at an event like in the movie but It's little probable. Except If by a coincidence, he was in Domino City when Zero Reverse happened. Good point for I2 If it was integrated by KC. It's very ironical.

Shido was their biological heir, but he was born after Amon was adopted. AS for Dartz's Organization, it;'s caklled Paradias in the Dub but Doma in Japan.

So, Shido is become Amon Group's heir. Maybe it explains why Amon Group's in the sponsor list.

[remaner]

主催:ワールド･ライディング・デュエル・グランプリ
協賛:ペガサス・J・クロフォード記念財団
　　　The Bolger & Company
　　　株式会社ガラムモータース
　　　万丈目デジタルエンタテイメント株式会社
　　　千里眼ネットワークシステムズ株式会社
　　　株式会社シュレイダー・トイズ・ジャパン

協力:ネオ童実野シティ 治安維持局
　　　ネオ童実野シティ 遺跡公園
　　　ネオ童実野シティ D・ホイール振興会

My sorry excuse for a translation:

Sponsorship: World Riding Duelist Grand Prix Commission

Support: Pegasus J. Crawford Memory Foundation
The Bolger and Company
Garham Motors Corporation
Manjoume Digital Entertainment Corporation
Senri Eye Worksheet Teams Corporation
Corporation Schroider Toys Japan

Collaboration: Neo Domino City Municipal Security Forces
Neo Domino City Historical Park
Neo Domino City D-Wheel Promotion Association

[XERO_Slayer]

Also that scan states that the truth of Paradox will be revealed in future episodes, am I right?

[Arynis]

Also that scan states that the truth of Paradox will be revealed in future episodes, am I right?

Yes, it does. More specifically, I believe it talks about "Paradox's true identity".

[Kyte]

I wonder if when they mean by that, will they actually show about Paradox to where Yusei remembers or will it be like something we, the audience, will piece together but the characters of the series do not. Either way sounds cool, though would like for they actually show where Yusei is reminded or realizes what may lead up to will be the cause for Paradox's timeline. I do hope Paradox himself does appear again, because when something IS changed in a timeline, something has to compensate for it so perhaps since Paradox was anhilated, perhaps in there'll be a change like Paradox instead appears differently in the 5D's era but thats if one is following to where each timeline is practically an alternate universe instead where even going back in time changed something. I just feel won't be the last we've seen of the guy, I just know he did something on the side since I'm sure he wants to make sure his plan works or atleast he did something that influenced something or someone without even notciing it (like even if one went back in time and even crushes a small bug, it'd change dramatically in chain of events and such)

[Arynis]

EDIT: New 2CH thread is up, update your bookmarks! http://changi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/...ie/1267324519/

On Newwise BBS, XYZ Dragon Cannon figured a few things out from the Animation Book scans (translations by Heleentje, as always):

• Paradox['s D-Wheel] has the ability to pass through time and space
• 5D's Ushio is the DM Ushio (!)
• Yugi from GX 179/180 was real (!)
• Paradox's identity [kanjis read seperately can mean real body/form/state] is in the future 5D's [episodes?]
• Sin is actually a pun on "新" (meaning "new"), which can be read as atarashii or shin. In Chinese, this kanji is read as xin.
• Something about Yusei's hair coming from sleep hair.

Regarding the second and the third statements... Well I never!

~~~
[Theory]

I wonder if when they mean by that, will they actually show about Paradox to where Yusei remembers or will it be like something we, the audience, will piece together but the characters of the series do not. Either way sounds cool, though would like for they actually show where Yusei is reminded or realizes what may lead up to will be the cause for Paradox's timeline. I do hope Paradox himself does appear again, because when something IS changed in a timeline, something has to compensate for it so perhaps since Paradox was anhilated, perhaps in there'll be a change like Paradox instead appears differently in the 5D's era but thats if one is following to where each timeline is practically an alternate universe instead where even going back in time changed something. I just feel won't be the last we've seen of the guy, I just know he did something on the side since I'm sure he wants to make sure his plan works or atleast he did something that influenced something or someone without even notciing it (like even if one went back in time and even crushes a small bug, it'd change dramatically in chain of events and such)

Hmm, but didn't Yusei see Paradox for the first time when he wanted to steal Stardust Dragon? No one acts like they have seen Paradox before (Eg. Crow's "Is that long and slender D-Wheel coming our way?"). Yusei realizing that event X would destroy Paradox's future would be interesting.

Regarding the timeline change, Paradox would be unaffected. He went back in the past and died, but it doesn't affect his birth or youth. The only thing I can imagine is that people have seen Paradox, which caused people to watch out for his younger self, causing Paradox going into hiding, perhaps. The protagonists swore to protect the future, so their efforts could have changed the timeline as well.

Yeah, I agree on Paradox having a back-up plan or anything of the sort.

[YaminoRPG]

The picture with the text regarding pegasus, where exactly is it from?

[Arynis]

The picture with the text regarding pegasus, where exactly is it from?

Episode 98 of 5D's, the very beginning. It's the small text on the WRGP poster.

[YaminoRPG]

Christ now that is sneeky. Suprised KC isnt mentioned but then again I fail to see how KC would recover after being the company who caused Zero Reversal. Its quite sad if you think about it, that Kaibas ambition to make the company bring fun and joy to the world ended up damaging it.

[Allana]

EDIT: New 2CH thread is up, update your bookmarks! http://changi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/...ie/1267324519/

On Newwise BBS, XYZ Dragon Cannon figured a few things out from the Animation Book scans (translations by Heleentje, as always):

• Paradox['s D-Wheel] has the ability to pass through time and space
• 5D's Ushio is the DM Ushio (!)
• Yugi from GX 179/180 was real (!)
• Paradox's identity [kanjis read seperately can mean real body/form/state] is in the future 5D's [episodes?]
• Sin is actually a pun on "新" (meaning "new"), which can be read as atarashii or shin. In Chinese, this kanji is read as xin.
• Something about Yusei's hair coming from sleep hair.

Regarding the second and the third statements... Well I never!

~~~
[Theory]



Hmm, but didn't Yusei see Paradox for the first time when he wanted to steal Stardust Dragon? No one acts like they have seen Paradox before (Eg. Crow's "Is that long and slender D-Wheel coming our way?"). Yusei realizing that event X would destroy Paradox's future would be interesting.

Regarding the timeline change, Paradox would be unaffected. He went back in the past and died, but it doesn't affect his birth or youth. The only thing I can imagine is that people have seen Paradox, which caused people to watch out for his younger self, causing Paradox going into hiding, perhaps. The protagonists swore to protect the future, so their efforts could have changed the timeline as well.

Yeah, I agree on Paradox having a back-up plan or anything of the sort.

Very good new ! Congratulations Arynis and Heleentje ! Maybe a precise timeline will be state in 5d's ? I hope yes ! Sin meanning new is interesting, it suppose there a first form of these monsters before they become Sin. It's actually the case for Red Eyes Black Dragon and Blue Eyes White Dragon and maybe also for others. I'm sure anime will show new Sin monsters.

Yes, Yusei met Paradox for the first time when he loose his Stardust Dragon. You're idea is interesting Kyte and It'svery probable since Yusei know already Paradox. The back up plan is a good idea.

[Ryusaki]

5D's Ushio is the DM Ushio (!)

Oh? I wonder what finally confirmed it.

Also -- and someone may instantly disprove this -- but could the Pegasus Memory Foundation seen in the WRGP be in existence because in this part of the timeline, Paradox killed Pegasus and Yusei hasn't saved him yet?

[remaner]

Oh? I wonder what finally confirmed it.

Also -- and someone may instantly disprove this -- but could the Pegasus Memory Foundation seen in the WRGP be in existence because in this part of the timeline, Paradox killed Pegasus and Yusei hasn't saved him yet?

For Ushio, in the artbook there's an information box about him. I haven't been able to read it all (I'm waiting to have my copy, it shall arrive this week) and I'll translate it (or I'll try to).

About the Memory Foundation, it might be, but personally I think this plot point is too good for the writers of this season of 5D's...

[Arynis]

Christ now that is sneeky. Suprised KC isnt mentioned but then again I fail to see how KC would recover after being the company who caused Zero Reversal. Its quite sad if you think about it, that Kaibas ambition to make the company bring fun and joy to the world ended up damaging it.

Indeed. But at the same time, Pegasus wanted to create a game for everyone, an entertaining, fun game... which is really just an engine of destruction and the origin of the world. Oops.

Very good new ! Congratulations Arynis and Heleentje ! Maybe a precise timeline will be state in 5d's ? I hope yes ! Sin meanning new is interesting, it suppose there a first form of these monsters before they become Sin. It's actually the case for Red Eyes Black Dragon and Blue Eyes White Dragon and maybe also for others. I'm sure anime will show new Sin monsters.

Yes, Yusei met Paradox for the first time when he loose his Stardust Dragon. You're idea is interesting Kyte and It'svery probable since Yusei know already Paradox. The back up plan is a good idea.

I interpreted it as the Sin forms being a "new" form of the original monters. This would make sense from a meta view (new OCG monsters) and from a in-universe view (Duel Monsters being tarnished by the Sin that destroyed the world).

Oh? I wonder what finally confirmed it.

Also -- and someone may instantly disprove this -- but could the Pegasus Memory Foundation seen in the WRGP be in existence because in this part of the timeline, Paradox killed Pegasus and Yusei hasn't saved him yet?

Actually, Pegasus and Sugoroku didn't stay dead for too long, because the Crimson Dragon swooped up Yugi and brought him back 30 minutes in time, where the three protagonists united and intercepted Paradox. Pegasus was alive at the end of the movie. It is true that the movie had this "flashback" where people claimed Pegasus died and dueling is a myth now, but I'm not sure how this flashback exactly occurs. It's not too clear from the summary.

Crimson Dragon could have literally re-winded time or merely took only Yugi back in time. In the case of the latter, Makoeyes stated that this is impossible, because there can't be duplicates of Yugi. This is where may the Time Bastard theory come in.

From what I understood, duplicates of two people in the same time frame cannot exist. The Yugi brought in by the Crimson Dragon at 11:30 is protected by Time Traveler's Immunity, but the Yugi who is yet to attend the event at 12:00 is a duplicate, who will be shunned away at the time of the original departure (sometime past 12:00). The duplicates cannot encounter each other anyway, because Yugi at 11:30 was dumped on the school roof by Crimson Dragon, while the "original" Yugi might be somewhere else, getting ready for attending the event.

Also, the timeline with Pegasus and Sugoroku dead is either nonexistent due to the rewinding, or is branched off the timeline or is a parallel universe, or it was shunned away/overwritten because the three protagonists managed to change history.

However, timelines cannot fuse, and Yusei and co clearly saved Pegasus' life, so the Memory Foundation cannot exist for that reason. Or, if you want to stretch it, the timeline with Pegasus dead in it thanks to Paradox is actually a parellel universe, which then somehow unified with the dimension with the "normal" timeline in it (a la Chrono Cross) and the memory foundation organized after Pegasus' death somehow remained in this normal timeline.

And this can't be the part where Yusei didn't yet save Pegasus because he clearly wouldn't be around the WRGP otherwise, but somewhere in the past -in Venice- with Judai. And going by the D-Wheels in the movie, the movie certainly didn't happen during WRGP.

[chrisedomaster]

For Ushio, in the artbook there's an information box about him. I haven't been able to read it all (I'm waiting to have my copy, it shall arrive this week) and I'll translate it (or I'll try to).

Mean you this? http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1267377682

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I interpreted it as the Sin forms being a "new" form of the original monters. This would make sense from a meta view (new OCG monsters) and from a in-universe view (Duel Monsters being tarnished by the Sin that destroyed the world).

Man, I guess they hit the jackpot with "Sin", didn't they? We've hit about 5 different interpretations of Sin in this context... Hey, 5 Sin-Modes?

Oh, something my friend and I realize: There are 7 Deadly Sins, plus an 8th all-consuming Sin. There are 7 various Sins, plus an Ace Card (Sin Truth). Huh.

However, timelines cannot fuse, and Yusei and co clearly saved Pegasus' life, so the Memory Foundation cannot exist for that reason. Or, if you want to stretch it, the timeline with Pegasus dead in it thanks to Paradox is actually a parellel universe, which then somehow unified with the dimension with the "normal" timeline in it (a la Chrono Cross) and the memory foundation organized after Pegasus' death somehow remained in this normal timeline.

I'm thinking Pegasus just died of an illness or something after GX, so yes it can. Now we just have to wait for Yakou Tenma to show up in 5D's and try to get revenge on Yusei.

[remaner]

Mean you this? http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1267377682

Thank you *goes to translate*

[chrisedomaster]

If you want more scanns,i have scanned the most of it and had upload it on my Photobucket Account.
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/n...Book%20Scanns/

But if you want special scanns,just say it.^^

[remaner]

Here's the translation, hope I didn't screw it too much:


Title: Hidden connection between the series: Ushio Tetsu

Vertical text next to the title: Ushio, Satellite's police officer to protect order. He really appeared once in Duel Monsters too!

Text above the pictures of Ushio: On the left Ushio first appereance, entrusted of the Moral Committee. Became a policeman in 5D's, Ushio's position resembles [his old one], but what about his personality?

[Arynis]

Man, I guess they hit the jackpot with "Sin", didn't they? We've hit about 5 different interpretations of Sin in this context... Hey, 5 Sin-Modes?

Totally. XD

Uh, Go Go Sin Rangers? *shot*

Oh, something my friend and I realize: There are 7 Deadly Sins, plus an 8th all-consuming Sin. There are 7 various Sins, plus an Ace Card (Sin Truth). Huh.

Oh, that's a good observation there! Good job! :]

I'm thinking Pegasus just died of an illness or something after GX, so yes it can. Now we just have to wait for Yakou Tenma to show up in 5D's and try to get revenge on Yusei.

An illness, huh? Talk about suffering the same fate...

The only problem with Yakou is that he's in Yu-Gi-Oh! R, which follows the manga canon... although it would make a nice tie-in if he appeared, and would somewhat make up for the lack of an R anime.

But if it's not the adopted children, who would normally create a memory foundation for Pegasus? Hayato? Frantz? Someone else?

Here's the translation, hope I didn't screw it too much:


Title: Hidden connection between the series: Ushio Tetsu

Vertical text next to the title: Ushio, Satellite's police officer to protect order. He really appeared once in Duel Monsters too!

Text above the pictures of Ushio: On the left Ushio first appereance, entrusted of the Moral Committee. Became a policeman in 5D's, Ushio's position resembles [his old one], but what about his personality?

So this fully confirms it's Ushio is the one and the same. Thank you for the translation, Rem!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Totally. XD
Uh, Go Go Sin Rangers? *shot*

Heh heh.

Oh, that's a good observation there! Good job! :]

Thank you.

An illness, huh? Talk about suffering the same fate...

The only problem with Yakou is that he's in Yu-Gi-Oh! R, which follows the manga canon... although it would make a nice tie-in if he appeared, and would somewhat make up for the lack of an R anime.

But if it's not the adopted children, who would normally create a memory foundation for Pegasus? Hayato? Frantz? Someone else?

The Tenma thing was kind of a Joke, but yes it would be good.

So this fully confirms it's Ushio is the one and the same. Thank you for the translation, Rem!

Now we just need to meet this Pirates Keith guy. *Shot*

[joaohrs3]

hey, could'nt paradox be that thing saw by yusei and sherry in one of the past episodes?

[Allana]

Here's the translation, hope I didn't screw it too much:


Title: Hidden connection between the series: Ushio Tetsu

Vertical text next to the title: Ushio, Satellite's police officer to protect order. He really appeared once in Duel Monsters too!

Text above the pictures of Ushio: On the left Ushio first appereance, entrusted of the Moral Committee. Became a policeman in 5D's, Ushio's position resembles [his old one], but what about his personality?

Thanks a lot remaner !

[Arynis]

Now we just need to meet this Pirates Keith guy. *Shot*

Yeeeees!

hey, could'nt paradox be that thing saw by yusei and sherry in one of the past episodes?

I have thought of that, but their eyes simply don't match at all. So unless the robot fetus magically changes eye color and shape, it's probably not him. Although, who said it's the only one out there? There could be Z-TWO or Z-THREE, unless Z-ONE only meant to play around with "ZONE" and they are just messing with us. However, that would mean Paradox is not the only person like that, but he's still the only person alive in the future. Or he might have been the only one to get sent into the future?

I don't know though, but Paradox being a robot (or some kind of a robot hybrid) doesn't appeal to me that much. I'd rather see him as a human.

[Allana]

Yeeeees!



I have thought of that, but their eyes simply don't match at all. So unless the robot fetus magically changes eye color and shape, it's probably not him. Although, who said it's the only one out there? There could be Z-TWO or Z-THREE, unless Z-ONE only meant to play around with "ZONE" and they are just messing with us. However, that would mean Paradox is not the only person like that, but he's still the only person alive in the future. Or he might have been the only one to get sent into the future?

I don't know though, but Paradox being a robot (or some kind of a robot hybrid) doesn't appeal to me that much. I'd rather see him as a human.

We know not enough things about this robot and the Z-ONE. It's difficult to have an idea about it. The idea about Z-TWO or Z-THREE make sense but maybe also there only one Z card.

The Animation Book mentions his true identity will be reavealed. Only a human can have a identity. Except If Paradox is in reality a Riding Droid, Terminator or even C-3PO...

[Lia]

WoW, haven't been active here for a while. I forgot how many things can happen in this thread when you're absent. Let's see what I've missed.

• 5D's Ushio is the DM Ushio (!)

OMG, even now it's very hard to believe that the same Tetsu Ushio that appears consecutively in DM and 5D'S is one and the same person. Sorry, but for me, if that's true, this will only mean that the time difference between DM and 5D'S isn't so BIG as it was originally believed. (I can't remember what was the time difference between the series thought to be ....90 years or so..?)

[Arynis]

Except If Paradox is in reality a Riding Droid, Terminator or even C-3PO...

Pffff XD I lol'd.

OMG, even now it's very hard to believe that the same Tetsu Ushio that appears consecutively in DM and 5D'S is one and the same person. Sorry, but for me, if that's true, this will only mean that the time difference between DM and 5D'S isn't so BIG as it was originally believed. (I can't remember what was the time difference between the series thought to be ....90 years or so..?)

The assumed time difference varies, I have seen guesses from 20 years to a century, I think.

If we take the date from the manga (20XX), the maximum year can be 2099. In that case, Zero Reverse would have happened in 2082, which is 75 years after the end of GX (2007). This is just a theoretical maximum of course, as Ushio would have to be a wrinkled old man in that case. XD

[Lia]

The assumed time difference varies, I have seen guesses from 20 years to a century, I think.
If we take the date from the manga (20XX), the maximum year can be 2099. In that case, Zero Reverse would have happened in 2082, which is 75 years after the end of GX (2007). This is just a theoretical maximum of course, as Ushio would have to be a wrinkled old man in that case. XD

Exactly. xD That's why the only possible way DM's Usho and the character we all know from 5D'S as the police officer to be the one and exact person is if the time difference between DM and 5D'S varies between 20 to 40 years max. This makes the transformation of Domino City into a metropolis possible for several decades I suppose. xD