Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[Allana]

Official Site News Update (http://www.yugioh10th.com/news.html)

2010.02.19

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The movie will be watchable at the PUREBI theater in Isesaki. It seems like the whole "movie run ending in cinemas" issue applies to certain cinemas only? Or 2CH misunderstood something... or I did from relying on the machine translation...

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[Theory]

I doubt Psychics are capable of time travel. Divine would have surely known of it if that were the case. Illiaster, considering their bad relation with Arcadia Movement may have known about it in that case as well (and deal with Aki accordingly... but they didn't (yet?)).

I don't think Paradox would have the Sin Monsters until after the future got destroyed. While the Sin Monsters reflect Paradox himself, they also reflect humanity's sin, which may have been responsible for the world destruction, which is what Paradox might be carrying on his shoulders (Tamura described it as "Paradox carries grief/sadness on his shoulders", it seemed to vary by the news articles and/or the machine translation).

I didn't thought Divine or Aki when I wrote my post. You're right Arynis.

Good point. I forgot the words of Atsushi Tamura.

But then again, some of the past Yugioh villains also fit the list. Several of them were innocent or didn't harbor ill intentions until life slapped them in the face (Pegasus or Marik for instance).

Although in a sense, Paradox might be not much different from the protagonists, either. Both Dark Yugi and Judai had experienced the darker side (Dark Yugi's Penalty Games, Judai committing genocide to finish Super Fusion), Paradox intents to sacrifice history in order to save the future. Dark Yugi goes on how he doesn't want to see lives to be sacrificed for the future, but if the future is to be destroyed by Duel Monsters just as Paradox said, then mankind would certainly perish.

Yusei told Paradox people could change, but Paradox brushed him off that is answer is nonsense. Perhaps Paradox thinks the same way Darkness does ("The will of one people cannot change the world."), although that contradicts his own actions. Or he's simply skeptical about humanity and thinks Yusei is naive, or something.

Very true. Paradox is different compared protagonist become "vilains". When they become vilains, they acts for himself. Judai to finish Super Fusion for himself and Yugi to get his victory against Raphael. Paradox acts for others.
He acts by himself and alone. Perhaps he wants acts alone and by himself only. Maybe he don't trust people ?

Hahah, that would sure be hilarious, I'm sure. XD

Yes, sure !

Exactly.

Thanks a lot !

Do it, do it! Of course, it could be always an unique BGM. Maybe this music plays during that scene? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdNLZkiFObs#t=0m19s)

The line Paradox says here is how his greatest experiment has been accomplished and he wishes farewell to the historical duelists... which is the line he says after summoning Sin Red-Eyes Black Dragon and Sin Blue-Eyes White Dragon. (In other words, the trailer's scenes were deliberately arranged to make us think he said it during his visit in Venice. Never Trust A Trailer, I suppose...)

Your're completly right ! It change things, If the line is at another place. Yes, NEVER trust a trailer !

[Lia]

(In other words, the trailer's scenes were deliberately arranged to make us think he said it during his visit in Venice. Never Trust A Trailer, I suppose...)

Absolutely !!! Obviously the Japanese have some confused idea of how to make movie trailers.

[Arynis]

Absolutely !!! Obviously the Japanese have some confused idea of how to make movie trailers.

Japan isn't the only one who does it, though. At least it's not as bad as the Pokemon trailers, where they show scenes which are not in the real movie. And that's the only misplaced line, I believe, and the bit about the protagonists saying "Our future... is destroyed?". Everything else (almost) lines up. (Paradox's line about how he came from the future to change the future is said by him when the protagonists are actually questioning him, but the trailer only shows him arriving in Domino City. However, the trailer still shows the "card fall from the Earth" scene as he's speaking about his future, although another coverage -I think it was Ene!- shows the card falling into the Earth. So yeah...)

Also, see this Cracked article.

Very true. Paradox is different compared protagonist become "vilains". When they become vilains, they acts for himself. Judai to finish Super Fusion for himself and Yugi to get his victory against Raphael. Paradox acts for others.
He acts by himself and alone. Perhaps he wants acts alone and by himself only. Maybe he don't trust people ?

But if Paradox supposedly hates humans and yet wants to save the future, wouldn't that imply that he, too, is doing it for himself? Or he thinks he can correct humanity by experimenting on history?

Also, wasn't Dark Yugi doing the Penalty Games on others because said people always hurt others (in most cases)? In that sense, he was working for the sake of others too, even if he had a warped sense of justice.

[Lia]

Japan isn't the only one who does it, though. At least it's not as bad as the Pokemon trailers, where they show scenes which are not in the real movie. And that's the only misplaced line, I believe, and the bit about the protagonists saying "Our future... is destroyed?". Everything else (almost) lines up. (Paradox's line about how he came from the future to change the future is said by him when the protagonists are actually questioning him, but the trailer only shows him arriving in Domino City. However, the trailer still shows the "card fall from the Earth" scene as he's speaking about his future, although another coverage -I think it was Ene!- shows the card falling into the Earth. So yeah...)

Also, see this Cracked article.

Hahaha....really...never trust a trailer. xD
And let's mention that making one single trailer (usually there're 2 trailers though - one short and one extended) with everything fitting correctly (lines, catchwords and scenes) is way better than making countless of trailers with mixed catchwords that don't fit at the current scene.
So, yeah...the japanese still have to learn that....but I guess they (almost) did well with this movie's trailer. At least we saw cool new scenes. xD

[Ryusaki]

Do it, do it! Of course, it could be always an unique BGM. Maybe this music plays during that scene? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdNLZkiFObs#t=0m19s)

It just seems more pointless now, with the movie already out, lol. I'm surprised there hasn't been a post on 2Ch or the like listing the BGMs. Makes me wonder if there aren't many from the three series. We know there's Passionate Duelists and Judai's Theme, and I would assume there'll also be Yusei Battle or Yusei's Theme. That TV show promoting the movie used a bunch of BGMs from the series, but it didn't sound like they were actually part of the movie footage.

[Arynis]

It just seems more pointless now, with the movie already out, lol. I'm surprised there hasn't been a post on 2Ch or the like listing the BGMs. Makes me wonder if there aren't many from the three series. We know there's Passionate Duelists and Judai's Theme, and I would assume there'll also be Yusei Battle or Yusei's Theme. That TV show promoting the movie used a bunch of BGMs from the series, but it didn't sound like they were actually part of the movie footage.

...Or actually, I just Googled if I could find anything and I found a Nicovideo video on the movie's BGM:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9525300

(新しく作られたものとサントラ未収録以外)あつめてみました。※画像は適当です順番になってるなんてこと はありません。【ドラゴン→カタルシス→せつない心→激震→作戦会議→対決→怒り→熱き決闘者 たち(GX ver.)→遊星バトル→十代のテーマ→恐怖と破壊→光と闇→遊星テーマ→希望→makemagic】の順 。大体映画で流れた順です。後半は主題歌と動画を入れてます!(追記:遊星バトルとテーマが長いのはフルが この二つと十代のテーマしかなかったからですすいませんすいません。GXが大好きです)

Looks like the duel's final move does end with Yusei's Theme, as you were wondering, Ryusaki.

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

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New BGMs the summaries mentioned? I do hope Paradox got his own theme song, at least. Or, if he appears in 5D's, let's hope he'll get one there if the movie didn't give him one.

[Allana]

Japan isn't the only one who does it, though. At least it's not as bad as the Pokemon trailers, where they show scenes which are not in the real movie. And that's the only misplaced line, I believe, and the bit about the protagonists saying "Our future... is destroyed?". Everything else (almost) lines up. (Paradox's line about how he came from the future to change the future is said by him when the protagonists are actually questioning him, but the trailer only shows him arriving in Domino City. However, the trailer still shows the "card fall from the Earth" scene as he's speaking about his future, although another coverage -I think it was Ene!- shows the card falling into the Earth. So yeah...)

Also, see this Cracked article.



But if Paradox supposedly hates humans and yet wants to save the future, wouldn't that imply that he, too, is doing it for himself? Or he thinks he can correct humanity by experimenting on history?

Also, wasn't Dark Yugi doing the Penalty Games on others because said people always hurt others (in most cases)? In that sense, he was working for the sake of others too, even if he had a warped sense of justice.

Yes, he saves also his future in same time the future of all humans.
Yes, It's true, Dark Yugi wants do justice with Penalty Games. Except here, he give a punishment at the one who loose the game. In theses cases, justice become vengeance. But his goal is also assure the sake of others: he is near of Paradox of this point of view.

[Lia]

...Or actually, I just Googled if I could find anything and I found a Nicovideo video on the movie's BGM:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9525300

(新しく作られたものとサントラ未収録以外)あつめてみました。※画像は適当です順番になってるなんてこと はありません。【ドラゴン→カタルシス→せつない心→激震→作戦会議→対決→怒り→熱き決闘者 たち(GX ver.)→遊星バトル→十代のテーマ→恐怖と破壊→光と闇→遊星テーマ→希望→makemagic】の順 。大体映画で流れた順です。後半は主題歌と動画を入れてます!(追記:遊星バトルとテーマが長いのはフルが この二つと十代のテーマしかなかったからですすいませんすいません。GXが大好きです)

Looks like the duel's final move does end with Yusei's Theme, as you were wondering, Ryusaki.

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

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New BGMs the summaries mentioned? I do hope Paradox got his own theme song, at least. Or, if he appears in 5D's, let's hope he'll get one there if the movie didn't give him one.

Dark Yugi's theme is missing.

[Allana]

...Or actually, I just Googled if I could find anything and I found a Nicovideo video on the movie's BGM:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9525300

(新しく作られたものとサントラ未収録以外)あつめてみました。※画像は適当です順番になってるなんてこと はありません。【ドラゴン→カタルシス→せつない心→激震→作戦会議→対決→怒り→熱き決闘者 たち(GX ver.)→遊星バトル→十代のテーマ→恐怖と破壊→光と闇→遊星テーマ→希望→makemagic】の順 。大体映画で流れた順です。後半は主題歌と動画を入れてます!(追記:遊星バトルとテーマが長いのはフルが この二つと十代のテーマしかなかったからですすいませんすいません。GXが大好きです)

Looks like the duel's final move does end with Yusei's Theme, as you were wondering, Ryusaki.

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

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New BGMs the summaries mentioned? I do hope Paradox got his own theme song, at least. Or, if he appears in 5D's, let's hope he'll get one there if the movie didn't give him one.

Thanks a lot Arynis !

Passionate Duelists, Showdown, Cute Spirits, Light and Dark, Catharsis, The Big Quake, Terror and Destruction ! Good themes ! I think Paradox must have his own theme.

[Ryusaki]

...Or actually, I just Googled if I could find anything and I found a Nicovideo video on the movie's BGM:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9525300

(新しく作られたものとサントラ未収録以外)あつめてみました。※画像は適当です順番になってる なんてこと はありません。【ドラゴン→カタルシス→せつない心→激震→作戦会議→対決→怒り→熱き決闘者 たち(GX ver.)→遊星バトル→十代のテーマ→恐怖と破壊→光と闇→遊星テーマ→希望→makemagic】の順 。大体映画で流れた順です。後半は主題歌と動画を入れてます!(追記:遊星バトルとテーマが長 いのはフルが この二つと十代のテーマしかなかったからですすいませんすいません。GXが大好きです)

Looks like the duel's final move does end with Yusei's Theme, as you were wondering, Ryusaki.

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

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New BGMs the summaries mentioned? I do hope Paradox got his own theme song, at least. Or, if he appears in 5D's, let's hope he'll get one there if the movie didn't give him one.

Excellent find. I'm pretty disappointed that there are no DM themes (the GX remix of Passionate Duelists? Really?) and we see Yusei's Theme used for the victory instead of something a bit more fresh, but there's still good stuff here. Light and Dark is likely the Sin Truth Dragon theme we were looking for. Also, Destiny and Catharsis are awesome.

Dark Yugi's theme is missing.

Passionate Duelists is Dark Yugi's unofficial theme, even if the movie seems to be using *shakes fist* the GX version instead of the original.

[remaner]

But if Paradox supposedly hates humans and yet wants to save the future, wouldn't that imply that he, too, is doing it for himself? Or he thinks he can correct humanity by experimenting on history?

Also, wasn't Dark Yugi doing the Penalty Games on others because said people always hurt others (in most cases)? In that sense, he was working for the sake of others too, even if he had a warped sense of justice.

Paradox was trying to create a world according to his dreams, a la Light Yagami, bending in a very warped way his sense of justice, maybe? And, in a even more warped way, the three main characters solve the problem he created by killing him?

Basically, the whole story of YGO is based on this, people trying to get justice for themselves (and the people around them, sometimes) in ways that creates even more problems to many more people.

[Arynis]

Yes, he saves also his future in same time the future of all humans.
Yes, It's true, Dark Yugi wants do justice with Penalty Games. Except here, he give a punishment at the one who loose the game. In theses cases, justice become vengeance. But his goal is also assure the sake of others: he is near of Paradox of this point of view.

Yeah, they were quite similar in a way.

Excellent find. I'm pretty disappointed that there are no DM themes (the GX remix of Passionate Duelists? Really?) and we see Yusei's Theme used for the victory instead of something a bit more fresh, but there's still good stuff here. Light and Dark is likely the Sin Truth Dragon theme we were looking for. Also, Destiny and Catharsis are awesome.

As Horoko would put it, the "My First Casio Keyboard" version. XD

I can't recall Yusei's theme being used that much, but I see your point. The lack of DM BGMs would explain why Shinkichi Mitsumune's name was absent from the credits, according to Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's World. Light and Dark is extremely fitting for Sin Truth Dragon, considering that

1) Paradox wears a split mask with black and white colors
2) Sin Truth Dragon seems to be the opposite of Sin Paradox Dragon - the former is golden (Light) while the latter is primarily black (Dark).

Paradox was trying to create a world according to his dreams, a la Light Yagami, bending in a very warped way his sense of justice, maybe? And, in a even more warped way, the three main characters solve the problem he created by killing him?

Basically, the whole story of YGO is based on this, people trying to get justice for themselves (and the people around them, sometimes) in ways that creates even more problems to many more people.

Hmm, probably.

Haha, so true. And sometimes it's something totally trivial. (I'll never be able to get over the fact that the card game was created because of one girl's death. Then again, Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't the only story where one person's death had heavy effects on the plot... Evangelion and .hack series come to mind.)

[Prismamaster]

Yugioh wikia says that Judai used his powers to go to yugi's time with yusei.Is this right?

[Arynis]

Yugioh wikia says that Judai used his powers to go to yugi's time with yusei.Is this right?

The summaries didn't mention it specifically. If I recall correctly, that detail has been mentioned in the Wikia's summary way before the movie came out, so I assume it may have been made up by someone.

[cookie]

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

I thought the gx version of Passionate Duelists was called Excited Duelists. Also what is the difference between the two?

[YYugi]

I thought the gx version of Passionate Duelists was called Excited Duelists. Also what is the difference between the two?

Passionate duelists is better T_T Why it isn't in that list?

The GX version sounds different, has other instruments.

[Arynis]

I thought the gx version of Passionate Duelists was called Excited Duelists. Also what is the difference between the two?

Oh, you're right. Oops, I'll go and correct it, then.

And as YYugi said, the instruments are different. Here:

Passionate Duelists
Passionate Duelists (GX Ver.)

[Tatsunoboshi Horoko]

Turning Passionate Duelists to Excited Duelists was an early translation mix-up by me because I had translated the tracksheet before I heard the actual tracks. (Needless to say, I think everyone was surprised that Billy Thompson's rendition played on a CT-655 he dug from his father's hope chest would be on GX-SD2.)

Also, I realized that I screwed up one teensy line in makemagic because of that video, fff. (Once again, from not being able to confirm with the actual song at the time.) The first "magic mike" (mahou no mike) should be "shining mike" (kagayaku mike.)

[Arynis]

Turning Passionate Duelists to Excited Duelists was an early translation mix-up by me because I had translated the tracksheet before I heard the actual tracks.

Also, I realized that I screwed up one teensy line in makemagic because of that video, fff. (Once again, from not being able to confirm with the actual song at the time.) The first "magic mike" (mahou no mike) should be "shining mike" (kagayaku mike.)

Ah, I see. So they are both called Passionate Duelists, then?

No worries. I'll go and correct the lyrics. :]

And uh, I've been meaning to ask this for a long time, but what is Sakiyomi JumBANG!'s exact title? I've seen it as JaBANG and JumpBANG as well.

[Ryusaki]

The summaries didn't mention it specifically. If I recall correctly, that detail has been mentioned in the Wikia's summary way before the movie came out, so I assume it may have been made up by someone.

The Wikia... Why do people just make stuff up on that damn thing?

"Hahaha, now some fool will think Judai Jaden uses his powers to travel back in time! My grand experiment to slightly confuse people on Yugioh websites is complete!"

Turning Passionate Duelists to Excited Duelists was an early translation mix-up by me because I had translated the tracksheet before I heard the actual tracks. (Needless to say, I think everyone was surprised that Billy Thompson's rendition played on a CT-655 he dug from his father's hope chest would be on GX-SD2.)

I guess the up side to the movie using the GX version is that we get to hear you come up with a new way to bash it every time XD.

[Arynis]

Turning Passionate Duelists to Excited Duelists was an early translation mix-up by me because I had translated the tracksheet before I heard the actual tracks. (Needless to say, I think everyone was surprised that Billy Thompson's rendition played on a CT-655 he dug from his father's hope chest would be on GX-SD2.)

I didn't even notice you edited your post just to put that in. I lol'd. XD

The Wikia... Why do people just make stuff up on that damn thing?

"Hahaha, now some fool will think Judai Jaden uses his powers to travel back in time! My grand experiment to slightly confuse people on Yugioh websites is complete!"

And at this as well. You two made my evening. XD

I have been thinking... it tells a lot about Paradox if he managed to come as far as he did, considering his circumstances (world getting destroyed, witnessing humans ruining the world around them, being the last (or one of the last humans) human in said world). I think I admire him just for that, even if his methods might not be the "best" route to solve his problem...

[Kyte]

Knowing Paradox, he probably has a back-up. I think there's something else he has hidden that is yet to be revealed and will be a threat once more. Because I'm sure he didn't gamble everything on this, he must have done something without our heroes knowing incase if he failed against them. Because this guy seems really smart and very hell-bent to make sure the future will be "saved" so definitely sure he has something else that may appear in 5D's that'll tie in his true identity and everything.

[kidichi_94]

Sure, just give me credit. ^^ You could also try this picture, the quality is much better but it's 1.7 MB. (The one in my signature is ~800 KB.)

Spoiler: Spoiler tagging to reduce load time for the page.

thanx! i use them at other forums yeah

[Arynis]

Knowing Paradox, he probably has a back-up. I think there's something else he has hidden that is yet to be revealed and will be a threat once more. Because I'm sure he didn't gamble everything on this, he must have done something without our heroes knowing incase if he failed against them. Because this guy seems really smart and very hell-bent to make sure the future will be "saved" so definitely sure he has something else that may appear in 5D's that'll tie in his true identity and everything.

A back-up? I didn't think of that, that's a very interesting thought. Perhaps he left something scattered all over the eras in order to help the future's change? Or for all we know, he actually had an elaborate and complex plan in which he incorporated himself already, and everything he did may have been part of it. Although seeing how he says "My experiments... was it a mistake?", that might not be the case. Or that's what he wants us to think...

Maybe Yusei's Crash Town pendant will come into play when they get to the whole "Paradox plot" in the story?

[GoldenUmi]

...Or actually, I just Googled if I could find anything and I found a Nicovideo video on the movie's BGM:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9525300

(新しく作られたものとサントラ未収録以外)あつめてみました。※画像は適当です順番になってるなんてこと はありません。【ドラゴン→カタルシス→せつない心→激震→作戦会議→対決→怒り→熱き決闘者 たち(GX ver.)→遊星バトル→十代のテーマ→恐怖と破壊→光と闇→遊星テーマ→希望→makemagic】の順 。大体映画で流れた順です。後半は主題歌と動画を入れてます!(追記:遊星バトルとテーマが長いのはフルが この二つと十代のテーマしかなかったからですすいませんすいません。GXが大好きです)

Looks like the duel's final move does end with Yusei's Theme, as you were wondering, Ryusaki.

So the movie's OST is possibly this:

Destiny (5D's SD1)
Catharsis (5D's SD2)
Agonizing Heart (GX SD2)
The Big Quake (5D's SD2)
Strategy Conference (5D's SD2)
Cute Spirits (GX SD2) [This was heard in the Sakiyomi JumBANG! cast's scene]
Showdown (5D's SD1)
Rage (5D's SD2)
Passionate Duelists - GX ver. (GX SD 2)
Yusei Battle (5D's SD1)
Judai's Theme (GX SD1)
Terror And Destruction (5D's SD2)
Light and Dark (5D's SD2)
Yusei's Theme (5D's SD2)
Hope (5D's SD2)
makemagic (Jealkb single) [Movie ED]

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New BGMs the summaries mentioned? I do hope Paradox got his own theme song, at least. Or, if he appears in 5D's, let's hope he'll get one there if the movie didn't give him one.

Not a bad lineup, but I'm a bit mad they didn't at least try and fit a couple of DM themes in there aside from Passionate Duelists. A few of the GX themes chosen are crap and could have been used by DM betters. At least IMO anyway. Still, at least we get to see Light and Dark and Yusei's Theme as well as many other good 5D's tracks.

[Allana]

Knowing Paradox, he probably has a back-up. I think there's something else he has hidden that is yet to be revealed and will be a threat once more. Because I'm sure he didn't gamble everything on this, he must have done something without our heroes knowing incase if he failed against them. Because this guy seems really smart and very hell-bent to make sure the future will be "saved" so definitely sure he has something else that may appear in 5D's that'll tie in his true identity and everything.

What do you mean by back up ? Theorically, Paradox is died, he can't do a back up. You're right, something stay hidden, we will discover it in 5d's anime.

[Arynis]

What do you mean by back up ? Theorically, Paradox is died, he can't do a back up. You're right, something stay hidden, we will discover it in 5d's anime.

By back up, he could have meant a plan, leaving certain objects or information behind. After all, we don't know exactly what Paradox did after his departure from the future and before he encountered Yusei in Neo Domino City.

He could have gone straight for him, of course. I am wondering, however, why did Paradox have the need for collecting the dragons from each era? Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon were immensely powerful to begin with, which were likely manifested from Paradox's emotions, in a sense. Paradox used a blank card to capture Stardust Dragon, which leads me to think that Duel Monsters, after destroying the world, has vanished completely. Paradox was left with blank cards, without humanity or vegetation. But just like a Duel Monster could be called forth from a card, a Duel Monster can be also sealed into a card (just like in Ancient Egypt). But that still doesn't clear up how Paradox managed to steal the cards - perhaps the distant future's Duel Monster cards were corrupted immensely, which allowed him to capture monsters and summon them as if they were real. Which is how the world may have gotten destroyed in the future: the Duel Monsters spun out of control, powered by their owners' wickedness, but their controllers were mere humans, which caused the Duel Monsters to spring forth from the card, cause destruction and then vanish. In Paradox's case, he could have been capable of controlling his monsters because of his sheer willpower. It could explain Paradox's abilities without saying he was a Psychic Duelist.

In other words, the tablets of Ancient Egypt and the Duel Monsters cards were actually a "lock" on the monsters who originally lived in humans. We know human emotion seems to play a path in the monsters' strength, such as Thief Bakura's Diabound (I think) or Aki causing destruction through her Psychic ability and emotions.

In a way, his plan was still ambiguous - while we know he was experimenting with history, we don't know if the three protagonists were actually part of his plan, or they were just getting in his way. We know Paradox wants to destroy Duel Monsters, but Pegasus could have been assassinated rather easily. Also, how did he pinpoint Pegasus to that event in Domino City? Did he do his research in his ruined future (finding a functional computer?) or somewhere in 5D's recent future? It's not impossible, seeing how Aki helped the group out by showing them the photos of Yugi and Pegasus, as well as the ruined Venice. Paradox could have also done his research on everyone easily this way.

[Ryusaki]

Not a bad lineup, but I'm a bit mad they didn't at least try and fit a couple of DM themes in there aside from Passionate Duelists. A few of the GX themes chosen are crap and could have been used by DM betters. At least IMO anyway. Still, at least we get to see Light and Dark and Yusei's Theme as well as many other good 5D's tracks.

I'm a little surprised too that the soundtrack isn't exactly a 'Best of BGM' compilation, like the Pyramid of Light arguably was. Maybe they didn't want it to be tons of catchy and easily-recognisable ones from the shows. Until the duel starts, that is.

[J_BYYX]

Hahahaha l just noticed something XD
So if Paradox wanted to destroy duel monsters before it was made then why he time traveled to period when duel monsters was already popular enough? What if Paradox wanted to prevent creation of specific cards that caused destruction of the future?

[Allana]

By back up, he could have meant a plan, leaving certain objects or information behind. After all, we don't know exactly what Paradox did after his departure from the future and before he encountered Yusei in Neo Domino City.

He could have gone straight for him, of course. I am wondering, however, why did Paradox have the need for collecting the dragons from each era? Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon were immensely powerful to begin with, which were likely manifested from Paradox's emotions, in a sense. Paradox used a blank card to capture Stardust Dragon, which leads me to think that Duel Monsters, after destroying the world, has vanished completely. Paradox was left with blank cards, without humanity or vegetation. But just like a Duel Monster could be called forth from a card, a Duel Monster can be also sealed into a card (just like in Ancient Egypt). But that still doesn't clear up how Paradox managed to steal the cards - perhaps the distant future's Duel Monster cards were corrupted immensely, which allowed him to capture monsters and summon them as if they were real. Which is how the world may have gotten destroyed in the future: the Duel Monsters spun out of control, powered by their owners' wickedness, but their controllers were mere humans, which caused the Duel Monsters to spring forth from the card, cause destruction and then vanish. In Paradox's case, he could have been capable of controlling his monsters because of his sheer willpower. It could explain Paradox's abilities without saying he was a Psychic Duelist.

In other words, the tablets of Ancient Egypt and the Duel Monsters cards were actually a "lock" on the monsters who originally lived in humans. We know human emotion seems to play a path in the monsters' strength, such as Thief Bakura's Diabound (I think) or Aki causing destruction through her Psychic ability and emotions.

In a way, his plan was still ambiguous - while we know he was experimenting with history, we don't know if the three protagonists were actually part of his plan, or they were just getting in his way. We know Paradox wants to destroy Duel Monsters, but Pegasus could have been assassinated rather easily. Also, how did he pinpoint Pegasus to that event in Domino City? Did he do his research in his ruined future (finding a functional computer?) or somewhere in 5D's recent future? It's not impossible, seeing how Aki helped the group out by showing them the photos of Yugi and Pegasus, as well as the ruined Venice. Paradox could have also done his research on everyone easily this way.

Ah, I see. Thanks Arynis !

Your idea thinking me at something. You said cards and tablet are a lock for Duel monsters. Maybe monster destroy the world because they would have realeased from the cards and become real ? It's a little exagerated but how Duel Monster can destroy the world ?

It's true, we don't know Paradox had did during this time. Your idea about Duel Monster vanished after it destroy is very possible. The blank card where Stardust is lock reminded me Pegasus who gives a card whitout picture on it. The looser will be lock in this card by Pegasus. In Paradox's case, It's different of course but the similarity of the cards reminds me Duelist Kingdom.

I wondering... Finally, whyhe steal Stardust Dragon ? Stardust Dargon who is a Synchro monster destroy eras because he is a Synchro monster. But Paradox own himself a Synchro monster, Sin Paradox Dragon. So his Dragon would have enough to destroy eras because he is also a Synchro monster. Sin Stardust Dragon protect his field but Field Barrier exist already to do this.

[chrisedomaster]

hey guys. New News!xD
My Art book comes in some days. If anyone has upload scanns already,please tell me. But i will scan it in this week,if the Art book comes not to late

and sorry for crapy english D:

[Lia]

hey guys. New News!xD
My Art book comes in some days. If anyone has upload scanns already,please tell me. But i will scan it in this week,if the Art book comes not to late

and sorry for crapy english D:

No one has scanned it till now, so we impatiently expect your scans. xD

[GoldenUmi]

I'm a little surprised too that the soundtrack isn't exactly a 'Best of BGM' compilation, like the Pyramid of Light arguably was. Maybe they didn't want it to be tons of catchy and easily-recognisable ones from the shows. Until the duel starts, that is.

I don't get it though. You think they would want that.

[Arynis]

Hahahaha l just noticed something XD
So if Paradox wanted to destroy duel monsters before it was made then why he time traveled to period when duel monsters was already popular enough? What if Paradox wanted to prevent creation of specific cards that caused destruction of the future?

Because no one knows too much about Pegasus? What most people know that he is the creator of the game, even less people know he got the idea for the game in Egypt, and only Yugi and co. (and Crocketts maybe) know why Pegasus went to Egypt. So perhaps he assumed he would halt the production of the game by killing the CEO of the company responsible for the game's production. But Pegasus died long before 5D's (probably) or he's way too old (Pegasus as Kagemaru...), so he's not the one responsible for card production in the future. Seeing how Professor Fudo designed the Signer Dragon cards himself, it might be possible that I2 integrated into KC completely. (5D's KC building does bear a resemblance to I2's building...) Your idea is still interesting, however. But I don't see why those cards would have been made, especially with Pegasus around, who would oversee what cards can get produced. Then again, there's the whole deal with the Phantom Demons, and cards like Yubel slipped through anyway...

So going with your idea, those certain cards may have been sealed away, but people discovered and abused them? But if Pegasus was aware... (The God Cards don't count because Pegasus was brainwashed by the Millennium Eye by that point. He realized what he did only after creating the God Cards.)

Seeing how certain villains/organizations/people possess unique cards which may have obviously not been created by I2, it would render killing Pegasus for that specific reason moot. The other problem is that even if I2 shut down, the card would still be in existence, people would be still able to play the game regularly. Unless I2's shutdown causes every card to be pulled back from everyone, but that's still an impossible task.

Your idea thinking me at something. You said cards and tablet are a lock for Duel monsters. Maybe monster destroy the world because they would have realeased from the cards and become real ? It's a little exagerated but how Duel Monster can destroy the world ?

Well, we know that Duel Monsters were originally monsters living in people's hearts which were sealed into tablets in Ancient Egypt. If you want to go further, Darkness states that Duel Monsters is also the origin of the world. I would imagine these monsters as the "energy of the universe" which then took some kind of a form because of human emotion. This would match up with a monster representing their owner even back in Anicent Egypt.

The Memory World arc showed that each person has a Duel Monster within them they can summon; it's called a ba. Not surprisingly, ba is the Egyptian term for the personality or heart of a person, one half to a person's "soul"; the other half is their life energy, or ka. Also, in a duel, one can use their ka (life energy) to strengthen their ba Duel Monster (and other Duel Monsters they summon), and these creatures literally live inside a person. To gain strong monsters for the coming war, Aknadin and the other priests are shown ripping people's ka from their bodies and sealing them in tablets.

This explains why a human's personality shapes the way their monsters look. Or you could say that Duel Monsters are humans themselves.

If we want to make a sense out of GX's and 5D's spirit thing, they could be seen as monsters who somehow gained independence from their "container" (tablet, card...human body?).

Let's see. In order to use a Duel Monster, they need a container and a channel they can go through.

Ancient Egypt:
- Container #1: Human body
- Container #2: Tablets
- Channel: Millennium Items / Diadhanks

Modern era:
- Container: Duel Monster cards (More specifically: IC Chip)
- Channel: Duel Disks (More specifically: Duel Box / Solid Vision / Momentum)

We have seen human emotion play an important concept in forming a person's Duel Monster(s). There was Bakura with Diabound (I think), which was a rather powerful monster. We know Bakura witnessed Kul Elna's destruction and people being sacrificed. In some cases when someone turned evil or corrupted, their monsters also became different. Aki was potentially destructive because of her Psychic powers and anger.

An interesting part is that in Ancient Egypt, the Millennium Key was used to see a person's monster inside them. In the modern world, the Key revealed a room of the soul. Maybe it's the way people perceive things in Ancient Egypt and in the modern world?

In the modern world, people seem to pick cards for their decks which seem to represent their selves. In Pegasus' case, he made his own cards for himself. In the Signers' case, wasn't it stated that the dragons can change forms? After all, the dragons do seem to follow their owners' traits (eg. Yusei's self sacrifice for others), and the fact that the dragons looked the same like they did 5000 years ago was just for the audience (or that's just how Ruka pictured it). Paradox is a special case because his emotions are manifested on the actual monsters (Sin armor).

But even if Duel Monsters = humans (or power of the universe), that doesn't explain where the other entities (eg. Earthbound Gods, Machine Emperors, etc.) come from. I guess it's because of Duel Monsters' "gateway" system. If anything can be manifested as a card (container), it can make its effect through the "channel". Or considering Duel Monsters is widespread all over the world, it makes it easier for said entities to do what they wish. Darkness did mention that "humans stood on top of all creations", as well.

Darkness appeared because humanity was in despair, their dark hearts dyed the cards black. Maybe in the case of Paradox's future, people were too wicked, bent on destroying the planet as Paradox described. The cards were dyed with Sin. Perhaps people's strong emotions caused the monsters to break out of their "container" and use humans as a "channel" instead, and they actually manifested and caused a world-wide destruction. (Something similar to what could be seen in Anubis' vision in Pyramid of Light?) Because they broke out of their container (the card), or they used up their human owner as a resource, perhaps (life energy?), they had nowhere to go and disappeared. The incident left blank cards and ruin behind. However, this doesn't explain the issue with non-Duelist people. Perhaps they were killed, or other Duel Monsters used them as a "channel" anyway. Considering how central Duel Monsters was to people's lives, it probably didn't matter if a person played the game or not.

Paradox managed to stay alive, however. It may have been because of his dislike towards others, causing him not to follow their way. Or as it is implied, he had extraordinary willpower which prevented him to be used as a "channel".

Then Paradox found the blank cards. Perhaps every Duel Monster vanished at this point, but he still bore the burdens of mankind's sinful side, thus giving birth to the Sin Monsters. He took the blank, still sin-filled cards and sealed up some of the most powerful monsters of each era for his use, then using the cards to manifest the monsters as real, but still keeping them under control with his willpower.

Uh... did that make any sense? I thought I had a good train of thought, but then I lost track of it. Orz

It's true, we don't know Paradox had did during this time. Your idea about Duel Monster vanished after it destroy is very possible. The blank card where Stardust is lock reminded me Pegasus who gives a card whitout picture on it. The looser will be lock in this card by Pegasus. In Paradox's case, It's different of course but the similarity of the cards reminds me Duelist Kingdom.

Yeah, they are similar. I mentioned that bit in my Paradox-Pegasus comparison post, too.

I wondering... Finally, whyhe steal Stardust Dragon ? Stardust Dargon who is a Synchro monster destroy eras because he is a Synchro monster. But Paradox own himself a Synchro monster, Sin Paradox Dragon. So his Dragon would have enough to destroy eras because he is also a Synchro monster. Sin Stardust Dragon protect his field but Field Barrier exist already to do this.

Actually, I was confused why it would be Stardust Dragon designated as the card which would destroy the world. It was never stated it was because Stardust is a Synchro Monster, though. Or of course, you could always interpret it as Stardust Dragon destroying Sin Truth Dragon and Paradox, a man who wanted to save his future, which might result in said future not being saved because of the protagonists... Thus leading to the world getting destroyed anyway.

[Allana]

Because no one knows too much about Pegasus? What most people know that he is the creator of the game, even less people know he got the idea for the game in Egypt, and only Yugi and co. (and Crocketts maybe) know why Pegasus went to Egypt. So perhaps he assumed he would halt the production of the game by killing the CEO of the company responsible for the game's production. But Pegasus died long before 5D's (probably) or he's way too old (Pegasus as Kagemaru...), so he's not the one responsible for card production in the future. Seeing how Professor Fudo designed the Signer Dragon cards himself, it might be possible that I2 integrated into KC completely. (5D's KC building does bear a resemblance to I2's building...) Your idea is still interesting, however. But I don't see why those cards would have been made, especially with Pegasus around, who would oversee what cards can get produced. Then again, there's the whole deal with the Phantom Demons, and cards like Yubel slipped through anyway...

So going with your idea, those certain cards may have been sealed away, but people discovered and abused them? But if Pegasus was aware... (The God Cards don't count because Pegasus was brainwashed by the Millennium Eye by that point. He realized what he did only after creating the God Cards.)

Seeing how certain villains/organizations/people possess unique cards which may have obviously not been created by I2, it would render killing Pegasus for that specific reason moot. The other problem is that even if I2 shut down, the card would still be in existence, people would be still able to play the game regularly. Unless I2's shutdown causes every card to be pulled back from everyone, but that's still an impossible task.



Well, we know that Duel Monsters were originally monsters living in people's hearts which were sealed into tablets in Ancient Egypt. If you want to go further, Darkness states that Duel Monsters is also the origin of the world. I would imagine these monsters as the "energy of the universe" which then took some kind of a form because of human emotion. This would match up with a monster representing their owner even back in Anicent Egypt.



This explains why a human's personality shapes the way their monsters look. Or you could say that Duel Monsters are humans themselves.

If we want to make a sense out of GX's and 5D's spirit thing, they could be seen as monsters who somehow gained independence from their "container" (tablet, card...human body?).

Let's see. In order to use a Duel Monster, they need a container and a channel they can go through.

Ancient Egypt:
- Container #1: Human body
- Container #2: Tablets
- Channel: Millennium Items / Diadhanks

Modern era:
- Container: Duel Monster cards (More specifically: IC Chip)
- Channel: Duel Disks (More specifically: Duel Box / Solid Vision / Momentum)

We have seen human emotion play an important concept in forming a person's Duel Monster(s). There was Bakura with Diabound (I think), which was a rather powerful monster. We know Bakura witnessed Kul Elna's destruction and people being sacrificed. In some cases when someone turned evil or corrupted, their monsters also became different. Aki was potentially destructive because of her Psychic powers and anger.

An interesting part is that in Ancient Egypt, the Millennium Key was used to see a person's monster inside them. In the modern world, the Key revealed a room of the soul. Maybe it's the way people perceive things in Ancient Egypt and in the modern world?

In the modern world, people seem to pick cards for their decks which seem to represent their selves. In Pegasus' case, he made his own cards for himself. In the Signers' case, wasn't it stated that the dragons can change forms? After all, the dragons do seem to follow their owners' traits (eg. Yusei's self sacrifice for others), and the fact that the dragons looked the same like they did 5000 years ago was just for the audience (or that's just how Ruka pictured it). Paradox is a special case because his emotions are manifested on the actual monsters (Sin armor).

But even if Duel Monsters = humans (or power of the universe), that doesn't explain where the other entities (eg. Earthbound Gods, Machine Emperors, etc.) come from. I guess it's because of Duel Monsters' "gateway" system. If anything can be manifested as a card (container), it can make its effect through the "channel". Or considering Duel Monsters is widespread all over the world, it makes it easier for said entities to do what they wish. Darkness did mention that "humans stood on top of all creations", as well.

Darkness appeared because humanity was in despair, their dark hearts dyed the cards black. Maybe in the case of Paradox's future, people were too wicked, bent on destroying the planet as Paradox described. The cards were dyed with Sin. Perhaps people's strong emotions caused the monsters to break out of their "container" and use humans as a "channel" instead, and they actually manifested and caused a world-wide destruction. (Something similar to what could be seen in Anubis' vision in Pyramid of Light?) Because they broke out of their container (the card), or they used up their human owner as a resource, perhaps (life energy?), they had nowhere to go and disappeared. The incident left blank cards and ruin behind. However, this doesn't explain the issue with non-Duelist people. Perhaps they were killed, or other Duel Monsters used them as a "channel" anyway. Considering how central Duel Monsters was to people's lives, it probably didn't matter if a person played the game or not.

Paradox managed to stay alive, however. It may have been because of his dislike towards others, causing him not to follow their way. Or as it is implied, he had extraordinary willpower which prevented him to be used as a "channel".

Then Paradox found the blank cards. Perhaps every Duel Monster vanished at this point, but he still bore the burdens of mankind's sinful side, thus giving birth to the Sin Monsters. He took the blank, still sin-filled cards and sealed up some of the most powerful monsters of each era for his use, then using the cards to manifest the monsters as real, but still keeping them under control with his willpower.

Uh... did that make any sense? I thought I had a good train of thought, but then I lost track of it. Orz

Yeah, they are similar. I mentioned that bit in my Paradox-Pegasus comparison post, too.

Actually, I was confused why it would be Stardust Dragon designated as the card which would destroy the world. It was never stated it was because Stardust is a Synchro Monster, though. Or of course, you could always interpret it as Stardust Dragon destroying Sin Truth Dragon and Paradox, a man who wanted to save his future, which might result in said future not being saved because of the protagonists... Thus leading to the world getting destroyed anyway.

Yes, maybe Pegasus is already died in 5d's. The idea about I2 integrate in KC is possible. Even If I2 is never see, maybe it exists always. Monsters who represents humans has a lot of sense.

I supposed Stardust Dragon destoy the world because he is a Synchro Monster. It's true nothing confirm it. Maybe Paradox choose Stardust Dragon for his special ability ? Stardust Dragon sacrifices himself for others and It's also Paradox do in his quest to save the future. Stardust Dragon negate the destruction. Accross this special ability, Paradox would want sucess to arrive at the same thing ? Probably, I imagine he is not happy to have theses powers.

[Arynis]

Yes, maybe Pegasus is already died in 5d's. The idea about I2 integrate in KC is possible. Even If I2 is never see, maybe it exists always. Monsters who represents humans has a lot of sense.

I supposed Stardust Dragon destoy the world because he is a Synchro Monster. It's true nothing confirm it. Maybe Paradox choose Stardust Dragon for his special ability ? Stardust Dragon sacrifices himself for others and It's also Paradox do in his quest to save the future. Stardust Dragon negate the destruction. Accross this special ability, Paradox would want sucess to arrive at the same thing ? Probably, I imagine he is not happy to have theses powers.

I like your point about Paradox and Stardust Dragon. So in a sense, Stardust Dragon = Paradox? The dimension didn't seem to take Paradox's acts too well, considering things such as Venice collapsing and crumbling.

It depends. Perhaps he had his powers like Judai did (whose powers were dormant until the Brron incident), or he gained them during/after the world's destruction.

[Allana]

I like your point about Paradox and Stardust Dragon. So in a sense, Stardust Dragon = Paradox? The dimension didn't seem to take Paradox's acts too well, considering things such as Venice collapsing and crumbling.

It depends. Perhaps he had his powers like Judai did (whose powers were dormant until the Brron incident), or he gained them during/after the world's destruction.

Yes, Stardust can be the whishe Paradox would wants get. It's true, change dimension don't change his powers. I suppose he get his powers during the destruction of the world: he wouldn't have survive If he get his powers after the destruction of the world.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

We know that Duel Monsters were originally monsters living in people's hearts which were sealed into tablets in Ancient Egypt. If you want to go further, Darkness states that Duel Monsters is also the origin of the world. I would imagine these monsters as the "energy of the universe" which then took some kind of a form because of human emotion. This would match up with a monster representing their owner even back in Anicent Egypt.

This explains why a human's personality shapes the way their monsters look. Or you could say that Duel Monsters are humans themselves.

If we want to make a sense out of GX's and 5D's spirit thing, they could be seen as monsters who somehow gained independence from their "container" (tablet, card...human body?).

Let's see. In order to use a Duel Monster, they need a container and a channel they can go through.

Ancient Egypt:
- Container #1: Human body
- Container #2: Tablets
- Channel: Millennium Items / Diadhanks

Modern era:
- Container: Duel Monster cards (More specifically: IC Chip)
- Channel: Duel Disks (More specifically: Duel Box / Solid Vision / Momentum)

We have seen human emotion play an important concept in forming a person's Duel Monster(s). There was Bakura with Diabound (I think), which was a rather powerful monster. We know Bakura witnessed Kul Elna's destruction and people being sacrificed. In some cases when someone turned evil or corrupted, their monsters also became different. Aki was potentially destructive because of her Psychic powers and anger.

An interesting part is that in Ancient Egypt, the Millennium Key was used to see a person's monster inside them. In the modern world, the Key revealed a room of the soul. Maybe it's the way people perceive things in Ancient Egypt and in the modern world?

In the modern world, people seem to pick cards for their decks which seem to represent their selves. In Pegasus' case, he made his own cards for himself. In the Signers' case, wasn't it stated that the dragons can change forms? After all, the dragons do seem to follow their owners' traits (eg. Yusei's self sacrifice for others), and the fact that the dragons looked the same like they did 5000 years ago was just for the audience (or that's just how Ruka pictured it). Paradox is a special case because his emotions are manifested on the actual monsters (Sin armor).

But even if Duel Monsters = humans (or power of the universe), that doesn't explain where the other entities (eg. Earthbound Gods, Machine Emperors, etc.) come from. I guess it's because of Duel Monsters' "gateway" system. If anything can be manifested as a card (container), it can make its effect through the "channel". Or considering Duel Monsters is widespread all over the world, it makes it easier for said entities to do what they wish. Darkness did mention that "humans stood on top of all creations", as well.

Darkness appeared because humanity was in despair, their dark hearts dyed the cards black. Maybe in the case of Paradox's future, people were too wicked, bent on destroying the planet as Paradox described. The cards were dyed with Sin. Perhaps people's strong emotions caused the monsters to break out of their "container" and use humans as a "channel" instead, and they actually manifested and caused a world-wide destruction. (Something similar to what could be seen in Anubis' vision in Pyramid of Light?) Because they broke out of their container (the card), or they used up their human owner as a resource, perhaps (life energy?), they had nowhere to go and disappeared. The incident left blank cards and ruin behind. However, this doesn't explain the issue with non-Duelist people. Perhaps they were killed, or other Duel Monsters used them as a "channel" anyway. Considering how central Duel Monsters was to people's lives, it probably didn't matter if a person played the game or not.

Paradox managed to stay alive, however. It may have been because of his dislike towards others, causing him not to follow their way. Or as it is implied, he had extraordinary willpower which prevented him to be used as a "channel".

Then Paradox found the blank cards. Perhaps every Duel Monster vanished at this point, but he still bore the burdens of mankind's sinful side, thus giving birth to the Sin Monsters. He took the blank, still sin-filled cards and sealed up some of the most powerful monsters of each era for his use, then using the cards to manifest the monsters as real, but still keeping them under control with his willpower.

Uh... did that make any sense? I thought I had a good train of thought, but then I lost track of it. Orz

Actually, I was confused why it would be Stardust Dragon designated as the card which would destroy the world. It was never stated it was because Stardust is a Synchro Monster, though. Or of course, you could always interpret it as Stardust Dragon destroying Sin Truth Dragon and Paradox, a man who wanted to save his future, which might result in said future not being saved because of the protagonists... Thus leading to the world getting destroyed anyway.

In order for that last part to be true, you have to assume that everything Paradox says is 100% true - and as we have seen, Antagonists often either have incorrect perspective or flat-out lie to accomplish their goals.

Think about the term Sin. It's a very string word, often used in the context of religion; which, up until now, had some presence here but was never a main theme. Sin is a term used to refer to something for which a person will be sent to hell; Paradox, being a man of science and conducting experiments, would not believe as such. He would have called man's dark actions atrocities or travesties, but why Sins?

The only answer is that Paradox is a masochist. He holds a lot of inner turmoil - but it seems that at least part of it is self-loathing. He wears a mask - but in a world with only him alive, who would he be disguising himself from? From judgment itself. He feels guilty that he couldn't save humanity or the planet, and that inner turmoil makes him want to hide his face from God.

As for Stardust, my guess is that it would have the most leverage of any monster to take to get Yusei. For Yugi, he tried killing Sugoroku. For Judai, he took Johan's card, a card that symbolized their bond. Stardust is a card Yusei has used against or with all his friends, and even other people have used it, so what better way to get Yusei's attention? Plus, being a Signer Dragon and the one for the Leader of the Signers, it had power enough to warrant taking.

[chrisedomaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PPzRYsvY4

I got my V-Jump and in Some days my Art Book.xD WATCH OUT!"

[Lia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PPzRYsvY4

I got my V-Jump and in Some days my Art Book.xD WATCH OUT!"

Yes, this V-JUMP magazine is already scanned by Janime, but we count on you about the Animation Book. xD

[Arynis]

In order for that last part to be true, you have to assume that everything Paradox says is 100% true - and as we have seen, Antagonists often either have incorrect perspective or flat-out lie to accomplish their goals.

Indeed, I did go with assuming that what Paradox said was true. You're right about the possible "inaccuracies".

But does every antagonist lie? We know several of them hid their true agenda until the end, however... didn't Dartz tell his story to everyone during their final duel? (Ie. how he got the power of Orilchalcos and all) Granted, he told them somewhat before the end, but still.

Also, why would Paradox lie about his future being destroyed? If his motive is not to save the future, then what is his reason behind his actions? Does he have a reason to lie? Although I have a feeling the writers are holding back on information - information to be uncovered only in 5D's. Would he really just be doing it For The Evulz? He just doesn't strike me like that. Then again, I could be potentially biased because I like the character.

Think about the term Sin. It's a very string word, often used in the context of religion; which, up until now, had some presence here but was never a main theme. Sin is a term used to refer to something for which a person will be sent to hell; Paradox, being a man of science and conducting experiments, would not believe as such. He would have called man's dark actions atrocities or travesties, but why Sins?

The only answer is that Paradox is a masochist. He holds a lot of inner turmoil - but it seems that at least part of it is self-loathing. He wears a mask - but in a world with only him alive, who would he be disguising himself from? From judgment itself. He feels guilty that he couldn't save humanity or the planet, and that inner turmoil makes him want to hide his face from God.

You're right about the whole "Sin" concept! I didn't think of the religious connotation. Paradox having an inner struggle makes sense, it also matches up with Atsushi Tamura's statement about Paradox carrying grief on his shoulders.

As for Stardust, my guess is that it would have the most leverage of any monster to take to get Yusei. For Yugi, he tried killing Sugoroku. For Judai, he took Johan's card, a card that symbolized their bond. Stardust is a card Yusei has used against or with all his friends, and even other people have used it, so what better way to get Yusei's attention? Plus, being a Signer Dragon and the one for the Leader of the Signers, it had power enough to warrant taking.

That's a good point. It still doesn't explain why the tagline says "Stardust Dragon will destroy the world!".

[Allana]

In order for that last part to be true, you have to assume that everything Paradox says is 100% true - and as we have seen, Antagonists often either have incorrect perspective or flat-out lie to accomplish their goals.

Think about the term Sin. It's a very string word, often used in the context of religion; which, up until now, had some presence here but was never a main theme. Sin is a term used to refer to something for which a person will be sent to hell; Paradox, being a man of science and conducting experiments, would not believe as such. He would have called man's dark actions atrocities or travesties, but why Sins?

The only answer is that Paradox is a masochist. He holds a lot of inner turmoil - but it seems that at least part of it is self-loathing. He wears a mask - but in a world with only him alive, who would he be disguising himself from? From judgment itself. He feels guilty that he couldn't save humanity or the planet, and that inner turmoil makes him want to hide his face from God.

As for Stardust, my guess is that it would have the most leverage of any monster to take to get Yusei. For Yugi, he tried killing Sugoroku. For Judai, he took Johan's card, a card that symbolized their bond. Stardust is a card Yusei has used against or with all his friends, and even other people have used it, so what better way to get Yusei's attention? Plus, being a Signer Dragon and the one for the Leader of the Signers, it had power enough to warrant taking.

The Sin concept came from religion but I don't think the movie has a rapport with religion Sin can mean something bad or a mistake did in his life. All depends you heard by sin. The explanation for Stardust Dragon seems me interesting and It's a good idea.

I don't agree on the fact Paradox can lie and the religious explanation. Paradox has no reason to lie. Plus, flashbacks show his destroy future. Religion isn't a theme used particularly in Yu-Gi-Oh series, there only some references.

[tori_yugio4ever]

I've got a question, does Paradox come from the time during the destruction of earth or after that time? I was always confused on that part...

[Arynis]

I've got a question, does Paradox come from the time during the destruction of earth or after that time? I was always confused on that part...

While Paradox says the world will be destroyed if he lets history be, he does state he comes from the distant future in which the world is ruined/destroyed. The former could have been said in such a manner because he's in the past at that point, or because the ultimate fate of the world is destruction, unless he changes the world as he says.

The movie's flashback (flash forward?) shows him looking over the ruined landscape, which would imply he traveled back after the world got destroyed.

[remaner]

A random fact I noticed: the word "Sin" in katakana is rended with シン , whose pronunciation is more like 'shin', that has a bunch of different meanings according to the kanji you use to write it (honesty, truth, reliance, sleep, mind, inner strenght, reality, psyche, deity, core, friendlyness, profecy, antipathy, to cite some). Usually, when doing a pun in Japanese, people don't write the exact kanji but the word in hiragana or katakana instead.
So, probably more than "sin" the reference is to one of those words. Also, given that in Japanese the only way to transliserate the "s" sound used in "sin" is by using "sh", it can just not be a pun and I can be totally wrong.

[Arynis]

A random fact I noticed: the word "Sin" in katakana is rended with シン , whose pronunciation is more like 'shin', that has a bunch of different meanings according to the kanji you use to write it (honesty, truth, reliance, sleep, mind, inner strenght, reality, psyche, deity, core, friendlyness, profecy, antipathy, to cite some). Usually, when doing a pun in Japanese, people don't write the exact kanji but the word in hiragana or katakana instead.
So, probably more than "sin" the reference is to one of those words. Also, given that in Japanese the only way to transliserate the "s" sound used in "sin" is by using "sh", I can probably be totally wrong and just giving my fantasy too much credit.

Doesn't "shin" mean truth as well? (Among the things you listed, of course. But Shin = Truth is one meaning I'm familiar with.) ...Aha! That's just yet another pun on Sin Paradox Dragon (contradiction which in fact is true) and Sin Truth Dragon, I guess.

Although that gives a whole new meaning to Paradox's "Sin" monsters.

I recall one of the V-Jumps featuring the kanji written with "Shin".

Here it is:

Spoiler: Big image

[tori_yugio4ever]

While Paradox says the world will be destroyed if he lets history be, he does state he comes from the distant future in which the world is ruined/destroyed. The former could have been said in such a manner because he's in the past at that point, or because the ultimate fate of the world is destruction, unless he changes the world as he says.

So... when he time travels it from the point where the world actually is in ruins. But if he's trying to stop the world from being destoryed, why duel against Yugi/Atem, Judai, and Yusei then? How does that in anyway help him in his goal.

[remaner]

@ Ary
Also the 'literal', not religious, meaning of 'sin' can apply. After all, the Art Book Takahashi released is called "Gospel of Truth", and it's not some kind of actual Sacred Text...

Edit: that kanji means "reality, truth". The whole phrase means "Take in your hand the real strenght".

[Arynis]

Added the V-Jump scan to my previous post, Rem. I think it's the kanji for truth, isn't it? That's just another reason Paradox couldn't have lied, huh?

So... when he time travels it from the point where the world actually is in ruins. But if he's trying to stop the world from being destoryed, why duel against Yugi/Atem, Judai, and Yusei then? How does that in anyway help him in his goal.

We don't know if the protagonists was part of his plan, his intention was to destroy Duel Monsters. Or perhaps, the protagonists were an obstacle, similarly to how Yugi was in Pegasus' way for taking over Kaiba Corporation. The protagonists certainly tried to stop him, however. He did give them a warning, but the protagonists didn't back down, so he decided to get them out of the way by dueling them.

And remember, changing the past = changing the future. Paradox believed that destroying Duel Monsters would have resulted in his future being saved from being destroyed by Duel Monsters. This would have resulted in a Grandfather Paradox, as Paradox's reason to travel in time was nullified. Then again, this plan of his never came to fruition, so we'll never know how it would have played out.

[Allana]

@ Ary
Also the 'literal', not religious, meaning of 'sin' can apply. After all, the Art Book Takahashi released is called "Gospel of Truth", and it's not some kind of actual Sacred Text...

Edit: that kanji means "reality, true".

So Sin has no religious reference here. Interesting for the names "Sin Truth" and "Sin Paradox". They are a game words. Thanks a lot remaner !