Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[DarkDust_Dragon]

That's exactly what Yubel was. S/He lead Cobra on and killed him in cold blood out of a selfish drive to be with Judai. Yubel knew what S/He was doing was wrong, but didn't care because all Yubel thought about was the desire to be with Judai.

That's not entirely true. Yubel's sole motivation was her love for Judai and her desire to be with him. She did for Cobra exactly what she promised - she reunited him with Rick, just not the way he had in mind. Everything else she did was out of love for Judai, and so was partly for him. Also, keep in mind she was in an altered mental state; it's not clear exactly what she considered wrong, if anything at all, and she was clearly unstable. She may understand now, but the sane cannot judge the thoughts of the insane.

[Allana]

I wonders me If Paradox know Accel Synchro? According the pictures: (Sorry, I can't do better)

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Both had the same white/blue light on their D-Wheel and both can goes an incredible speed.
Even If it isn’t confirmed, the speculation wants Dark Glass come also from the future. In that case, Accel Synchro can be the way to travel time and space?

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I wonders me If Paradox know Accel Synchro?
Both had the same white/blue light on their D-Wheel and both can goes an incredible speed.
Even If it isn’t confirmed, the speculation wants Dark Glass come also from the future. In that case, Accel Synchro can be the way to travel time and space?

Well, the Accel Synchro did allow Dark Glass to loop around behind Yusei, and you're right about Paradox. Soimehow I doubt they're the same person, but they could know each other I suppose.

[Allana]

Well, the Accel Synchro did allow Dark Glass to loop around behind Yusei, and you're right about Paradox. Soimehow I doubt they're the same person, but they could know each other I suppose.

I didn't wanted to say Paradox and Dark Glass are the same person. Both are very quiet, Paradox can have acquieres the Clear Mind.
You mean Dark Glass and Paradox could know each other? It's an interesting idea. But why they don't travel time together to save the future?

Also, I noticed yesterday the card that Yusei had got is a white card which seems be the same Paradox use to take Stardust Dragon. If Paradox know Accel Synchro and the Clear Mind, perhaps Eggman do appears the card the person wishes? Tenor Trio wants destroy Synchros so Eggman did appears Machine Emperors, the Synchro Killers, who answers at their wishes. Yusei wants an Accel Synchro, Eggman did appears Stardust Dragon's Accel Synchro version. Paradox wants a card who corrupt monsters so Eggman gives him Sin Monsters. He could have understand and acquiered Eggman's powers after he understood how it works explaining why he can take Yusei's Stardust Dragon during his duel.

[Lia]

I guess you already know that Cindy provided us the scans of the latest V-Jump magazine.
There's this shot of Sin Truth Dragon. (Just for notification. )
I think our Arynis will be most happy for it.

[Allana]

Thanks a lot Lia! I'm sure also Arynis will be very interested by the scan! Sin Truth Dragon looks great under the thunder! But his smile is insane, he is completly crazy even sadistic.

Paradox is able to fuse with him. The only other monster which it is possible for humans to fuse with him is Ra. Sin Truth Dragon and Ra shares together similarities by their appareance:

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Both are gold, Ra's red eye is the diamond on Sin Truth Dragon, the player can fuse with them and both are the most powerful monster of their owners respectively Paradox and Yugi. each represents the sun, It's more visible in Sin Truth Dragon's artwork. It is interesting to note Paradox evocates the sun by their hair color instead of Yugi evocates the darkness by his hair color.

But Ra and Sin Truth Dragon are both the thesis and the antithesis of other:

- Ra is a protector instead of Sin Truth Dragon is a destroyer.
- Ra's artwork represents the sun when Sin Truth Dragon represents the thunder.
- Ra has need of the sacrifice of monsters to be summoned instaed of Sin Truth Dragon has need to sacrifice Life Points to be summoned.
- Ra can't inflict effect damage when Sin Truth Dragon can do it.
- Sin Truth Dragon's attacks points are given instead Ra's attacks points are undetermined.
- Sin Truth Dragon isn't imune against Traps, Spells and Monster effect instead Ra being.
- Sin Truth Dragon can prevent his destruction when Ra can destroy monsters on the field and revive from the Cimtery.

The symbols they represents and their effect are exactly the opposite to each other.

Why I say this?

Because I just watched GX's episode 85 and Pegasus mentionned a Ra's copy us created because the original Ra "is no longer with us in this world" according Pegasus himself. "But one copy card had been left with our compagny for reasearch". Pegasus states his powers are the same original Ra. Pegasus, following normally his mind, blaming himself for the creation of Egyptians Gods: logically, he would have never should created this copy...

Why have created a copy instead of after he blamed himself to have created Gods cards the first time? Why create a new Ra? What can be theses reasearch or experiments? Theses reasearches are so important Pegasus accepts to work with a copy instead of it is as dangerous than the first.

Two person are fused with Ra: Marik with no helpers and Frantz with a Field Spell Card.

It's the problem: Pegasus states himself only a chosen duelist can fuses with Ra. By conditions summoning and fusion with Sin Truth Dragon, the player must give his body like sacrifice. There a similarity with Ra: give his body as sacrifice to summon a monster is like give his body to a divinity strenth - a God. I think it possible to fuse with a card only If this card containing Ra's spirit.

And my idea completly crazy like usual: If Pegasus worked on a Ra's copy to create another version of Ra, with different effects but conserve in him the power of Ra's spirit? A version diffrent, see opposite who can be Ra's equaliser and his mirror who has also need of a chosen to appears. A card to destroy Uria, Hamon, Raviel. Even Wicked Gods since their effects they can't be target for an attack and If the opponent hasn't another monster, Sin Truth Dragon can attack directly and theorically win: his attacks points are 5000, the Life Points 4000.

By his powers, Sin Truth Dragon mustn't accept anybody like owner. This implies Paradox own a powerful soul, it isn't like an ordinary person like Frantz. Paradox must be a chosen, someone with an exceptional soul. His powers who gives him the power to travel time proves this idea. The fact he is the unique survivor the Earth's destruction proves it also: the Signers neither Judai who owns all exceptional powers hadn't survived either. Paradox owns a so powerful soul he had survived when absolutly nothing other didn't it.

Deck which is according Paradox "the most powerful, it transcends the bondaries of decks!" It is possible Paradox had been chosen by Sin Truth Dragon himself to bears the Sin deck. Someone with an exceptional soul who can manipulates it summon his ace, Sin Truth Dragon.

On a side note, which is totally off I wrote, Stardust Dragon, when he is on the field with Sin World active and in words of pictures, fits pretty good with Sin World by his silver color and also his name stardust. Both of them has a link with the space. The name of Stardust Dragon effect's, Victim Sanctuary, fits pretty well to Paradox also.

[Prismamaster]

I guess you already know that Cindy provided us the scans of the latest V-Jump magazine.
There's this shot of Sin Truth Dragon. (Just for notification. )
I think our Arynis will be most happy for it.

Can you give me a link?

[Lia]

Can you give me a link?

The link is in my last post, but anyway - http://yumeoidaku.info/Cards/6-10/Sin.jpg

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Thanks a lot Lia! I'm sure also Arynis will be very interested by the scan! Sin Truth Dragon looks great under the thunder! But his smile is insane, he is completly crazy even sadistic.

Paradox is able to fuse with him. The only other monster which it is possible to fuse with him is Ra. Sin Truth Dragon and Ra shares together similarities by their appareance:

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You forget Yubel's Ultimate Form, but I see your point.

[Allana]

You forget Yubel's Ultimate Form, but I see your point.

You're right. I will edit.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I think we can officially add a few new similarities between Paradox and Placido:

Spoiler: Big Twisted Image

Placido has a transforming D-Wheel, he can fuse into objects, and has an affinity for transformation himself. However, I don't think Paradox's fusion was quite so... well, disgusting...

[Allana]

I think we can officially add a few new similarities between Paradox and Placido:

Spoiler: Big Twisted Image

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...lacidoReal.jpg

Placido has a transforming D-Wheel, he can fuse into objects, and has an affinity for transformation himself. However, I don't think Paradox's fusion was quite so... well, disgusting...

They able to fuse each other. Placido has mecanical legs, Paradox seems me human. Both fuse but in diffrent way: Paradox with a monster, Placido with his D-Wheel. They are opposite in their fusion: Placido fuse with the machine when Paradox fuses with a monster who is "alive".

[DarkDust_Dragon]

They able to fuse each other. Placido has mechanical legs, Paradox seems me human. Both fuse but in different way: Paradox with a monster, Placido with his D-Wheel. They are opposite in their fusion: Placido fuse with the machine when Paradox fuses with a monster who is "alive".

He has more than mechanical legs, since he has ports for hydraulic tubes on his back. And yes, their Fusions are opposite, but keep in mind they both fuse into their targets from the waist down (which does seem to be the standard, I admit).

[Lia]

I don't think Paradox will have any connection with the Tenor Trio, but after them he'll be the next main villain. Which will probably happen in season 4 of 5D'S. He might appear as a character who will bear the common features of all main villains that've appeared in the three series so far.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I don't think Paradox will have any connection with the Tenor Trio, but after them he'll be the next main villain. Which will probably happen in season 4 of 5D'S. He might appear as a character who will bear the common features of all main villains that've appeared in the three series so far.

I agree it's doubtful, but it's certainly worth pointing out how much Paradox and the Infinity Trio have in common.

[Allana]

I don't think Paradox will have any connection with the Tenor Trio, but after them he'll be the next main villain. Which will probably happen in season 4 of 5D'S. He might appear as a character who will bear the common features of all main villains that've appeared in the three series so far.

I see Paradox like a solitary man but it seems it come from the Tenor Trio's future. It's the only thing he has in common with them. He will be a very interesting vilain, I hope we know his story soon.

You has a beautiful avatar, I like a lot!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I see Paradox like a solitary man but it seems it come from the Tenor Trio's future. It's the only thing he has in common with them. He will be a very interesting villain, I hope we know his story soon.

Keep in mind that Placido is very solitary, tending to act outside the group.

[GoldenUmi]

Personally, I feel that there is at least some connection between the Tenor Trio, Bruno and Paradox. They may not know one another personally, but they do have similar technology and similar D-Wheels. Accel Synchro has to be related to time travel in some way.

[Kreekakon]

I agree it's doubtful, but it's certainly worth pointing out how much Paradox and the Infinity Trio have in common.

Well to me I think it's just a coincedence. If you want to put it that way, then Marik and Dartz would also have something to do with it, because they can fuse with their monsters too.

So I personally think Paradox was a completely solo character just for the movie.

[Allana]

Keep in mind that Placido is very solitary, tending to act outside the group.

That's true. I think Paradox is a man who acts alone. He could be a ally of Signers, he has good intentions. I think Paradox is a ennemy of Yliaster but it acts by his own way against them, in solo.

Personally, I feel that there is at least some connection between the Tenor Trio, Bruno and Paradox. They may not know one another personally, but they do have similar technology and similar D-Wheels. Accel Synchro has to be related to time travel in some way.

It make sense. I'm agree with you. Paradox seems know also Accel Synchro according the pictures.

Well to me I think it's just a coincedence. If you want to put it that way, then Marik and Dartz would also have something to do with it, because they can fuse with their monsters too.

So I personally think Paradox was a completely solo character just for the movie.

Dartz can fuse? I must see again Doma.

Paradox isn't just a exclusive character for the movie. Yoshida Shin had said Paradox will be present in 5d's and his true identity will be reavealed.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

That's true. I think Paradox is a man who acts alone. He could be a ally of Signers, he has good intentions. I think Paradox is a enemy of Yliaster but it acts by his own way against them, in solo.

He does really act alone, it's true; but when you think about it, he has to. He's the only one left in his time, and if he tried to recruit from the past nobody would ally with him because they'd think he as insane. And yes, he does have good intentions.

It make sense. I'm agree with you. Paradox seems know also Accel Synchro according the pictures.

Basically. I'm guessing the previous comment about Accel Synchro and time travel are related. Look at Bruno; when he Accel Synchro Summoned before, he went from in front of Yusei, looping around in a few seconds behind him.

Dartz can fuse? I must see again Doma.

Paradox isn't just a exclusive character for the movie. Yoshida Shin had said Paradox will be present in 5d's and his true identity will be revealed.

He fuses with the Orichalcos God; but it's not like the other Fusions. He gave up his body for it, so when he fused he became basically an abscess on the thing's forehead. Anybody got a screenshot?

And when Paradox appears, it will be interesting. Hopefully we will see more Sins.

[Allana]

He does really act alone, it's true; but when you think about it, he has to. He's the only one left in his time, and if he tried to recruit from the past nobody would ally with him because they'd think he as insane. And yes, he does have good intentions.

Basically. I'm guessing the previous comment about Accel Synchro and time travel are related. Look at Bruno; when he Accel Synchro Summoned before, he went from in front of Yusei, looping around in a few seconds behind him.

He fuses with the Orichalcos God; but it's not like the other Fusions. He gave up his body for it, so when he fused he became basically an abscess on the thing's forehead. Anybody got a screenshot?

And when Paradox appears, it will be interesting. Hopefully we will see more Sins.

Good point. Normal people would have think he is completly crazy but not the Signers. He must know the Signers, he know Judai's powers and I don't think he choose to take Stardust Dragon randomly.

That's true! I didn't noticed this! It's the prove Accel Synchro is the way to travel time!

I hope too! I would like a lot see a Sin Dark Magician and a Sin Dark Magician Girl.

I'm sure that Temple of Sun, Ancient Rules, Sad Stories cards can works pretty good in his deck:

Sin Monsters are summoned by Special Summon --> Temple of the Sun = + 300 attacks points for the monsters special summoned

Blue Eyes and Red Eyes in his hand --> Ancient Rules (+ Temple of the Sun = 2700 and 3300)

Sad Stories --> The best is Sin World must already be on the field to activate them. Sad Stories, by their names can represents very well Paradox himself.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Good point. Normal people would have think he is completely crazy but not the Signers. He must know the Signers, he know Judai's powers and I don't think he choose to take Stardust Dragon randomly.

That's true! I didn't noticed this! It's the prove Accel Synchro is the way to travel time!

I hope too! I would like a lot see a Sin Dark Magician and a Sin Dark Magician Girl.

That would certainly be interesting, yes.

I'm sure that Temple of Sun, Ancient Rules, Sad Stories cards can works pretty good in his deck:

Sin Monsters are summoned by Special Summon --> Temple of the Sun = + 300 attacks points for the monsters special summoned

Blue Eyes and Red Eyes in his deck --> Ancient Rules (+ Temple of the Sun = 2700 and 3300)

Sad Stories --> The best is Sin World must already be on the field to activate them. Sad Stories, by their names can represents very well Paradox himself.

Temple of the Sun is for Special Summons from the Cemetery only. Granted, that works with Sin Truth and Sin Cross, but Sins are pretty huge as it is (especially Truth). The Sad Stories would disadvantage Paradox, but I agree with the symbolism.

[Allana]

That would certainly be interesting, yes.

Temple of the Sun is for Special Summons from the Cemetery only. Granted, that works with Sin Truth and Sin Cross, but Sins are pretty huge as it is (especially Truth). The Sad Stories would disadvantage Paradox, but I agree with the symbolism.

Oh? Only from the Cimtery! Humm.... The word Sun fits good with his hair, the color of Sin Truth also...

Sad Stories can work, all depends when they arrives in his hand and when the player decide to activate it. He can play with Sorrowful Memories Card Trader or even Light the Load. He prevent his opponent to draw but no him and draw even 2 times. Also Pot of Greed.

Like you said, he has always Sin Selector, Sin Cross and Sin Tune. Sin Monsters works on a very higher attacks points, espescially Sin Truth Dragon so he can, - If his opponent hasn't Spells and Traps to prevent to attack or reduce amage to 0 - win very easily against his opponent's monsters.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Oh? Only from the Cimtery! Humm.... The word Sun fits good with his hair, the color of Sin Truth also...

Sad Stories can work, all depends when they arrives in his hand and when the player decide to activate it. He can play with Sorrowful Memories Card Trader or even Light the Load. He prevent his opponent to draw but no him and draw even 2 times. Also Pot of Greed.

Like you said, he has always Sin Selector, Sin Cross and Sin Tune. Sin Monsters works on a very higher attacks points, especially Sin Truth Dragon so he can, - If his opponent hasn't Spells and Traps to prevent to attack or reduce damage to 0 - win very easily against his opponent's monsters.

Pot of Greed hasn't been used since Episode 103 of GX; mainly, I think, because of influence from the ban lists and the fact that it was getting boring. And as for effects, who could forget Sin Cyber End and its Penetration Damage!

[Allana]

Pot of Greed hasn't been used since Episode 103 of GX; mainly, I think, because of influence from the ban lists and the fact that it was getting boring. And as for effects, who could forget Sin Cyber End and its Penetration Damage!

Pot of Greed not used since GX's 103? The scripters don't like his tempting smile make you draw!

I prefer Pot of Avarice, It's better, it return monsters in deck from the Graveyard.

Good point for Sin Cyber End Dragon!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Pot of Greed not used since GX's 103? The scripters don't like his tempting smile make you draw!

I prefer Pot of Avarice, It's better, it return monsters in deck from the Graveyard.

Good point for Sin Cyber End Dragon!

Yeah. My X-Sabers spam Pot of Avarice because of Rescue Cat, Gardestrike and similar monsters, usually resulting in epic game-winning draw.

Man, I wanna see Paradox have a Riding Duel, just to show how boned anybody except boring invincible heroes would be against Sins.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

Anyone know when go out the DVD of the Film?

[tori_yugio4ever]

Anyone know when go out the DVD of the Film?

I believe that was mention a few pages back of this thread. Sorry I don't know exactly where... but the dvd is not coming out this year I know that.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

The Film is gone out in January and perhaps the DVD go out in June? I think...

[tori_yugio4ever]

The Film is gone out in January and perhaps the DVD go out in June? I think...

Go here: http://www.janime.eu/showthread.php/...iversary-movie the info was in this thread I believe.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

Thank you tori_yugio4ever for the link ^^

But you think that rights of the Film will be bought from 4kids?

[tori_yugio4ever]

Thank you tori_yugio4ever for the link ^^

But you think that rights of the Film will be bought from 4kids?

Yeah they will...Honestly, I just wish that 4kids didn't have dub it because I hate how they edit the dialonge. But considering how 5Ds latest dubbed episode turned out I don't think it'll be that bad. So, overall I think the dubbed version of movie will be alright, but never as good as the original.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

I'm afraid for the censors that the 4kids will do in the Film �_�

I hate the dub dialogues,it's better original ^^

[tori_yugio4ever]

I'm afraid for the censors that the 4kids will do in the Film �_�

I hate the dub dialogues,it's better original ^^

Just about everything's better in the original format. But 4kids is gonna do what they want to do. All I ask for is for 4kids to stay as close to the original dialonge as possible.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

I hope that 4kids stays the original dialouges,but I don't believe it ^^"
The 4kids is the 4kids ^^"

[tori_yugio4ever]

I hope that 4kids stays the original dialouges,but I don't believe it ^^"
The 4kids is the 4kids ^^"

Well if you've seen YGO 5Ds ep.64 dubbed, then you know 4kids might not ... screw it up as bad as GX and the beginning of 5Ds dubbed. But even 4kids will have a degree in edit the movie. Like changing the soundtrack and cutting a few scenes.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

No I haven't seen the episode 64 of Yugioh 5D's because I'm Italian and we stop to the episode 48 ^^"
But you are right in GX the 4kids is been bad,but in 5D's not,perhaps the 4kids is better now?!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Just about everything's better in the original format. But 4kids is gonna do what they want to do. All I ask for is for 4kids to stay as close to the original dialogue as possible.

Some voices were better in the dub (Jim sounds way better in English IMO), but that doesn't count for much.

On another note, I was considering the Sins and the religious connotation. I realized that each of the Sins other than Truth is connected to one, with Truth representing the master Sin. Watch:

Sin Cyber End = Wrath: The strongest of the Main Deck Sins, with Piercing. Clearly designed for vicious attacks. Also, considering how vicious (Hell) Kaiser got with Cyber End, it makes sense.

Sin Rainbow = Envy: While it has the same 4000 ATK as Sin Cyber End, it lacks the vicious effect. Also, note Johan's strives to become a greater duelist.

Sin Stardust = Greed: This is a weird one, but a good one. The first time Stardust was used, it was by Jack, who (as we all know) stole it so he could further himself. It's also one of the Signer Dragons connected to Yliaster, who are using their power and that of the Crimson Dragon for their own purposes. Also note the act of Paradox stealing Stardust in the film.

Sin Parallel Gear = Sloth: The only Sin to not declare an attack or activate an effect. It's literally on the field for a few frames, and that's just for Tuning.

Sin Paradox = Lust: Not lust in the sense of love, mind you. The lust for possession, as tied to greed, is often represented in Yugioh; Lust for Power, lust for wealth, immortality. In Paradox's case, it's his insane ambition to change history which has consumed him as an obsession of an addiction does.

Sin Blue-Eyes = Pride: For two reasons. The first is obvious: Blue-Eyes' owner, Kaiba, is a self-made millionaire who fights for the prospect of victory. He's a vain man in terms of status and wealth. Second is the fact that Blue-Eyes is THE original Legendary Monster, the one who started it all; and to quote ****** Brdaley, I can understand the vanity of the position.

Sin Red-Eyes = Gluttony: This was a difficult one. I'm aware that Jonouchi enjoys food, and Fubuki enjoys women, but that doesn'ty relate to Red-Eyes itself. Rather, it relates to its Archetype; while it is the weakest Sin Counterpart, it has the most Counterparts (the Red-Eyes Archetype has many members).

Any comments?

[GoldenUmi]

Still nothing for June either on the movie DVD. June is the release date for 5D's Duel Box 8 though. I have a feeling that whenever they do release it, they will release it instead of releasing a new 5D's box, so it's possible we will see this in September (two months between 5D's releases usually). Or they could release it in between 5D's. Either way, it's not out any time soon

[Makoeyes987]

Some voices were better in the dub (Jim sounds way better in English IMO), but that doesn't count for much.

On another note, I was considering the Sins and the religious connotation. I realized that each of the Sins other than Truth is connected to one, with Truth representing the master Sin. Watch:

Sin Cyber End = Wrath: The strongest of the Main Deck Sins, with Piercing. Clearly designed for vicious attacks. Also, considering how vicious (Hell) Kaiser got with Cyber End, it makes sense.

Sin Rainbow = Envy: While it has the same 4000 ATK as Sin Cyber End, it lacks the vicious effect. Also, note Johan's strives to become a greater duelist.

Sin Stardust = Greed: This is a weird one, but a good one. The first time Stardust was used, it was by Jack, who (as we all know) stole it so he could further himself. It's also one of the Signer Dragons connected to Yliaster, who are using their power and that of the Crimson Dragon for their own purposes. Also note the act of Paradox stealing Stardust in the film.

Sin Parallel Gear = Sloth: The only Sin to not declare an attack or activate an effect. It's literally on the field for a few frames, and that's just for Tuning.

Sin Paradox = Lust: Not lust in the sense of love, mind you. The lust for possession, as tied to greed, is often represented in Yugioh; Lust for Power, lust for wealth, immortality. In Paradox's case, it's his insane ambition to change history which has consumed him as an obsession of an addiction does.

Sin Blue-Eyes = Pride: For two reasons. The first is obvious: Blue-Eyes' owner, Kaiba, is a self-made millionaire who fights for the prospect of victory. He's a vain man in terms of status and wealth. Second is the fact that Blue-Eyes is THE original Legendary Monster, the one who started it all; and to quote ****** Brdaley, I can understand the vanity of the position.

Sin Red-Eyes = Gluttony: This was a difficult one. I'm aware that Jonouchi enjoys food, and Fubuki enjoys women, but that doesn'ty relate to Red-Eyes itself. Rather, it relates to its Archetype; while it is the weakest Sin Counterpart, it has the most Counterparts (the Red-Eyes Archetype has many members).

Any comments?

To be honest, I think all of that is a stretch. The way you're trying to pin the seven deadly sins to the monsters is inconsistent at best, and Paradox doesn't just use seven Sin monsters. You neglected Sin Truth Dragon.

I don't really think there's a connection between the Sin monsters and the seven sins of Judeo-Christianity. I think the whole concept of "sin" perhaps ties to the concept of "Sin-World" as a field spell which maybe, is an allusion to the fact that the world he comes from is a result of the collective sins of humans from the past, creating a barren world devoid of life due to some unknown cataclysm with Duel Monsters. That would maybe be the "sin" which is what corrupts his monsters.

But yeah, the seven sins doesn't really fit, especially when there are 8 monsters.

[63cohen]

When did we start talking about dub again? The movie will be dubbed, just give it due time (you kinda have to, as the original will not be released until then). I think as it is a movie, and 4kids does well with them, it will be fine. 4kids has a good set of VA, all the three main characters are available (Jaden's was in the Duel Terminal, so he is available), and they are kinda good. Compared to the Toronto group that dubs Bakugan, they are 10X better. That much we can say for sure.

Editing wise, I only think one thing could really be edited (Grandpa Moto death), but not even that as 4kids never edited out death in the Pokemon movies. Only if it will air on CW4kids/Toonzai will it be edited in such as way. As for a director's cut like with Turtles Forever you could expect something like that for streaming if it airs on TV first.

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

Editing wise, I only think one thing could really be edited (Grandpa Moto death), but not even that as 4kids never edited out death in the Pokemon movies. Only if it will air on CW4kids/Toonzai will it be edited in such as way. As for a director's cut like with Turtles Forever you could expect something like that for streaming if it airs on TV first.

But Grandpa Muto die really or to the end of the film he relive?

[Kreekakon]

But Grandpa Muto die really or to the end of the film he relive?

He never actiually died "in the first place" if you know what I mean.

[Allana]

Some voices were better in the dub (Jim sounds way better in English IMO), but that doesn't count for much.

On another note, I was considering the Sins and the religious connotation. I realized that each of the Sins other than Truth is connected to one, with Truth representing the master Sin. Watch:

Sin Cyber End = Wrath: The strongest of the Main Deck Sins, with Piercing. Clearly designed for vicious attacks. Also, considering how vicious (Hell) Kaiser got with Cyber End, it makes sense.

Sin Rainbow = Envy: While it has the same 4000 ATK as Sin Cyber End, it lacks the vicious effect. Also, note Johan's strives to become a greater duelist.

Sin Stardust = Greed: This is a weird one, but a good one. The first time Stardust was used, it was by Jack, who (as we all know) stole it so he could further himself. It's also one of the Signer Dragons connected to Yliaster, who are using their power and that of the Crimson Dragon for their own purposes. Also note the act of Paradox stealing Stardust in the film.

Sin Parallel Gear = Sloth: The only Sin to not declare an attack or activate an effect. It's literally on the field for a few frames, and that's just for Tuning.

Sin Paradox = Lust: Not lust in the sense of love, mind you. The lust for possession, as tied to greed, is often represented in Yugioh; Lust for Power, lust for wealth, immortality. In Paradox's case, it's his insane ambition to change history which has consumed him as an obsession of an addiction does.

Sin Blue-Eyes = Pride: For two reasons. The first is obvious: Blue-Eyes' owner, Kaiba, is a self-made millionaire who fights for the prospect of victory. He's a vain man in terms of status and wealth. Second is the fact that Blue-Eyes is THE original Legendary Monster, the one who started it all; and to quote ****** Brdaley, I can understand the vanity of the position.

Sin Red-Eyes = Gluttony: This was a difficult one. I'm aware that Jonouchi enjoys food, and Fubuki enjoys women, but that doesn'ty relate to Red-Eyes itself. Rather, it relates to its Archetype; while it is the weakest Sin Counterpart, it has the most Counterparts (the Red-Eyes Archetype has many members).

Any comments?

Interesting interpretation! It's a way to see Sin concept.

I'm not agree with all ideas. I see the sense of the Sin differently and I will explain me after. I don't think the Sin toward the dragon exprims the Seven Deadly Sins. It is very difficult to find a Sin and associate it with each dragon. It's this explanation was the good, it will be very simple to associate a sin to each dragon. It's because It's very difficult Sin in the sense Seven Deadly Sins can't works. In my opinion, the weakness of the SDS explanation is theses Sins aren't theses of his owner.

Almost all dragons represents something who has a link with their previous owner (Greedy = Kaiba, Gluttony = Fubuki...), not the actual who is Paradox. If the dragons must have a link with Seven Deadly Sins, theses Sins must be link with Paradox, their actual owner. Or, it isn't the case and It's why the concept of the Seven Deadly Sins have no sense for me: they aren't linked to Paradox except the wrath. Even not the greedy: I think Paradox get theses dragons for a precise reason, not by greedy.

Sloth for Sin Gear makes sense... except If he get a Equip Spell which boost him. Go Parallel Gear attaks Stardust Dragon with 10 000 attacks points!!

I'm not agree with Rainbow Dragon: for me envy is to desire something in the sense to get that you want by all ways. Johan wants become a greater duelist, yes but It's an ambition. Plus, he is already a great duelist: he is the owner of the Rainbow Dragon, a single and unique card which no copy exists.

I'm not agree neither with Sin Paradox Dragon, I would see him with the wrath, Atsushi Tamura had said Paradox, his owner "stuggles with the grief" and Sin Paradox hair's are very similair at his master's hair.

Personnally, I don't think they are really related to Seven Deadly Sins. For me, the word "Sin" toward the dragons exprims rather the word "Corrupt": the dragons bears a mask similar to his owner, Paradox. For me, Sin exprims the dragons are become Corupt like their master because he must do bad things and the dragons accompanying. Like like their master or rather Paradox's mask: he do bad actions he is dark, It's the sadness the black part but has a good side, the light inside him, It's the white part and the smile. The Sin dragons exprims the dark and there their light counterpart in Paradox's deck or in the Graveyard.

This point is very symbolic: when the dark is summoned, the light is sent to the Cimtery. And all is done to summoned the dark (Sin World, Sin Selector). The light sleeping but it can awake, it isn't died, it can revive. The light can wait the good moment to go away to the deck or the Cimtery and come back on the field, at the moment which Paradox will be become again a good person. The fact they are in the Graveyard exprims it. If the light was dead from Paradox's heart, the monsters would been remove from the game. And the light will be definitively gone. Or, they are in the Cimetery: they a chance to revive.

But Grandpa Muto die really or to the end of the film he relive?

Protagonits come back in the time 30 minutes before Paradox arrives so he don't die and he is never died.

[tori_yugio4ever]

When did we start talking about dub again? The movie will be dubbed, just give it due time (you kinda have to, as the original will not be released until then). I think as it is a movie, and 4kids does well with them, it will be fine. 4kids has a good set of VA, all the three main characters are available (Jaden's was in the Duel Terminal, so he is available), and they are kinda good. Compared to the Toronto group that dubs Bakugan, they are 10X better. That much we can say for sure.

Editing wise, I only think one thing could really be edited (Grandpa Moto death), but not even that as 4kids never edited out death in the Pokemon movies. Only if it will air on CW4kids/Toonzai will it be edited in such as way. As for a director's cut like with Turtles Forever you could expect something like that for streaming if it airs on TV first.

Are you sure it will air on CW4kids... because lately they've been showing YGO 5Ds episodes on Cartoon Network so I thought it would been shown on CN. But I could wrong.

[63cohen]

Are you sure it will air on CW4kids... because lately they've been showing YGO 5Ds episodes on Cartoon Network so I thought it would been shown on CN. But I could wrong.

I said if. And anyway, CN looks like they will be removing 5Ds from their line-up unless they move it up or earlier as Beyblade Metal Fight will be taking the 7:30 time-slot. Yeah, that show that gets around 5th anime on TV Tokyo, but still does not beat Yugioh in anything except that. It will fail here, but hopefully 5Ds can find a home (not online exclusive). Maybe Toonzai (I mentioned that already as a renaming of CW4kids as far as we have been told) will air it along with DBZ Kai Funimation broadcast dub.

If Toonzai airs the movie, I can expect it to be a cut version, and a director's cut online, just like they did with Turtles Forever.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

To be honest, I think all of that is a stretch. The way you're trying to pin the seven deadly sins to the monsters is inconsistent at best, and Paradox doesn't just use seven Sin monsters. You neglected Sin Truth Dragon.

I don't really think there's a connection between the Sin monsters and the seven sins of Judeo-Christianity. I think the whole concept of "sin" perhaps ties to the concept of "Sin-World" as a field spell which maybe, is an allusion to the fact that the world he comes from is a result of the collective sins of humans from the past, creating a barren world devoid of life due to some unknown cataclysm with Duel Monsters. That would maybe be the "sin" which is what corrupts his monsters.

But yeah, the seven sins doesn't really fit, especially when there are 8 monsters.

You didn't read my post carefully enough. I said that Sin Truth represented the single Master Sin mentioned in addition to the Seven Deadly sins.

Interesting interpretation! It's a way to see Sin concept.

I'm not agree with all ideas. I see the sense of the Sin differently and I will explain me after. I don't think the Sin toward the dragon exprims the Seven Deadly Sins. It is very difficult to find a Sin and associate it with each dragon. It's this explanation was the good, it will be very simple to associate a sin to each dragon. It's because It's very difficult Sin in the sense Seven Deadly Sins can't works. In my opinion, the weakness of the SDS explanation is theses Sins aren't theses of his owner.

Almost all dragons represents something who has a link with their previous owner (Greedy = Kaiba, Gluttony = Fubuki...), not the actual who is Paradox. If the dragons must have a link with Seven Deadly Sins, theses Sins must be link with Paradox, their actual owner. Or, it isn't the case and It's why the concept of the Seven Deadly Sins have no sense for me: they aren't linked to Paradox except the wrath. Even not the greedy: I think Paradox get theses dragons for a precise reason, not by greedy.

Sloth for Sin Gear makes sense... except If he get a Equip Spell which boost him. Go Parallel Gear attaks Stardust Dragon with 10 000 attacks points!!

I'm not agree with Rainbow Dragon: for me envy is to desire something in the sense to get that you want by all ways. Johan wants become a greater duelist, yes but It's an ambition. Plus, he is already a great duelist: he is the owner of the Rainbow Dragon, a single and unique card which no copy exists.

I'm not agree neither with Sin Paradox Dragon, I would see him with the wrath, Atsushi Tamura had said Paradox, his owner "stuggles with the grief" and Sin Paradox hair's are very similar at his master's hair.

Personnally, I don't think they are really related to Seven Deadly Sins. For me, the word "Sin" toward the dragons exprims rather the word "Corrupt": the dragons bears a mask similar to his owner, Paradox. For me, Sin exprims the dragons are become Corupt like their master because he must do bad things and the dragons accompanying. Like like their master or rather Paradox's mask: he do bad actions he is dark, It's the sadness the black part but has a good side, the light inside him, It's the white part and the smile. The Sin dragons exprims the dark and there their light counterpart in Paradox's deck or in the Graveyard.

This point is very symbolic: when the dark is summoned, the light is sent to the Cemetery. And all is done to summoned the dark (Sin World, Sin Selector). The light sleeping but it can awake, it isn't died, it can revive. The light can wait the good moment to go away to the deck or the Cimtery and come back on the field, at the moment which Paradox will be become again a good person. The fact they are in the Graveyard exprims it. If the light was dead from Paradox's heart, the monsters would been remove from the game. And the light will be definitively gone. Or, they are in the Cimetery: they a chance to revive.

Except that's my point; Paradox isn't their true owner. He is basically a slaver, who took them from their true owners. Thus, each one of them still incarnates a link to their previous self and whatever sins they symbolized. As for Paradox, he may carry that grief; but when he began incessantly changing the timeline to the point it started to disintegrate, he stopped being simply noble and was stuck doing the same thing again and again. That's obsession.

[Allana]

You didn't read my post carefully enough. I said that Sin Truth represented the single Master Sin mentioned in addition to the Seven Deadly sins.



Except that's my point; Paradox isn't their true owner. He is basically a slaver, who took them from their true owners. Thus, each one of them still incarnates a link to their previous self and whatever sins they symbolized. As for Paradox, he may carry that grief; but when he began incessantly changing the timeline to the point it started to disintegrate, he stopped being simply noble and was stuck doing the same thing again and again. That's obsession.

Ah, yes, in that sense! You think Paradox take on his shoulders the sins of the humanity? Interesting!

Changing the timeline is a obsession of this point of view but Paradox hasn't the choice he came from a world died. How change the future? In traveling time and go in the past. It's the only way to do it. I think there a reason who explains why he is gone in Yusei's and Judai's timelines before to go in Yusei's timeline. Changing the timeline to save the future is also a noble goal I think because he sacrifice himself to save the future and others.

[Lia]

I think there a reason who explains why he is gone in Yusei's and Judai's timelines before to go in Yusei's timeline.

I think you meant Yugi's timeline.
Well, Paradox probably needed to gather the most powerful monsters in history, so nobody to be able to stand on his way of fulfilling his aims. And since Paradox is a 5D'S villain, it's normal to begin his time-travelling from the 5D'S period, then to go to Judai's and to end in Yugi's. It's just logical.
The thing I wonder is why he didn't try to kill Yusei as he tried to do this with Judai and Yugi. It's true that if he succeeds in destroying Yugi's era - Judai's and Yusei's will also disappear. Hmmm....probably Judai created him more troubles by trying to stop him while Yusei was to shocked to give any reaction. xD