Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[Arynis]

@ Kyte: That sounds pretty good to me. Looking at the dialogue on the Wiki, Black Magician and Neos do yell as well, so I suppose they play their own roles in that attack.

@ Mako: I guess Pegasus wanted to crush them with the thought of knowing every single thought of theirs at all costs. Or he was breaking down like crazy and was getting totally desparate. XD

And YES! I can totally see them argue about it in the afterlife... will argue about it in the afterlife... had argued about it in the afterlife... will have argued in the afterlife... Damn Time Travel Tense Trouble!

[Makoeyes987]

True, it is definitely deux ex machina for both Yugi and Judai to not only have cards with the same effect just targeting their own Ace, but also that they had them set on the field at once. Despite how cool it is for all 3 to shout out Stardust's attack name, doesn't quite explain how the two knew its attack name. I definitely hope its some epic animation of the 3 forces combined and not just 'Black Magician and Neos' aura goes into Stardust' No, just no. It would be epic if Stardust is attacking and they use the Trap cards and like BM blasts his into Stardust's blast and Neos, since he doesn't blast, could've dove into the blast, strengthening and carrying it to strike down Sin Truth Dragon. Now THAT would be awesome especially with the 3D, if you ask me.

I think that's how its described actually. Dark Magician shoots his Dark Magic attack into Stardust's Shooting Sonic attack along with Neos shooting something as well. It's visually a combination attack with all three protagonists. Which looks okay I suppose, but the way its played out just leaves something to be desired.

I'm not sure what could've been done differently. The turn before however with Kuriboh saving their asses was perfect. And a great lead in to a climactic final turn. But I dunno. It just seems a bit corny how its implimented. Which again, doesn't mean it sucked, or was horrible. No. But it just wasn't the strongest ending for the duel when compared to how the rest of the duel had gone.

Maybe if "Union Attack" were used instead, and Paradox wasn't just "lol insta-deded" by the sheer attack power of a Stardust Dragon attack, with the duel going a bit longer, that would've been better.

Actually that would be cool, because then they would've defeated Paradox as a monster, not a duelist, since he's fused with Sin Paradox Dragon, and when its destroyed, he'd be destroyed too. And that would've been an awesome alternative way of ending the duel.

[Arynis]

"lol insta-deded" <--- Why I'm seeing some odd What Do You Mean, It's Not Symbolic? moment here, with Paradox HAVING SEEN THE LIIIIIGHTT and ascending to the afterlife? Oh god and now I have this image of him being super trigger happy enlightened about it. WITH SPARKLES.

Going by the dialogues, the end of the duel seems kind of ambiguous. It only says that a pillar of light clears the darkness, and a helicopter is seen arriving. (Pegasus arriving to the event.) Hmm...

[Makoeyes987]

"lol insta-deded" <--- Why I'm seeing some odd What Do You Mean, It's Not Symbolic? moment here, with Paradox HAVING SEEN THE LIIIIIGHTT and ascending to the afterlife? Oh god and now I have this image of him being super trigger happy enlightened about it. WITH SPARKLES.

Going by the dialogues, the end of the duel seems kind of ambiguous. It only says that a pillar of light clears the darkness, and a helicopter is seen arriving. (Pegasus arriving to the event.) Hmm...

Well Paradox losing because he literally made himself a monster by fusing with Sin Truth Dragon would have been a much more intriguing and symbolic way of defeating him. Not to mention more unique than just piling on attack points for the win. I mean, I could see them all, especially Yugi, explaining how it was thanks to Paradox giving into his darkness and becoming a monster that he lost.

Yugi tells Yusei to end it this turn, before Paradox can take another draw. Yusei doesn't think he can with only Stardust, Dark Magician, and Neos on the field. Yugi tells him to trust him and activate his face down card. So Yusei does and activates Yugi's face down Union Attack, which combines the attack points of all monsters on the field into one monster, which would be Stardust Dragon.

Paradox then activates "Sin Revoke" (lol couldn't think of a better name) which is "Remove from play 1 "Sin" Monster in your graveyard and negate the effect of a spell or trap card and destroy it." Which then results in Judai activating his face down "Hero's Rule 2" which negates the effects of cards that target cards in the graveyard and destroys them, allowing Yusei to play the card. Yusei then attacks with Stardust Dragon and destroys Sin Truth Dragon, but doesn't inflict battle damage. However they win anyways thanks to Paradox being fused to Sin Truth Dragon, and its game over.

[Arynis]

Hmm... but what's with Sin Paradox Dragon here? Sin Paradox is in the graveyard by this point - it was Sin Red-Eyes and Sin Blue-Eyes on the field, along with Sin Truth. (Sin Red-Eyes gets destroyed, though, I think.) Oh, that was a typo. Okay then. XD

Wouldn't have Paradox lost either way? Sin Truth would have gotten destroyed in that battle anyway, and Paradox also had low LP. And because he was fused to Sin Truth, the attack killed him, even though he may have had a chance to survive were he not fused to it. On top of it, he supposedly sacrificed himself to the Dragon to begin with. He was going down, either way.

[Makoeyes987]

LOL Typo. I meant Sin Truth Dragon. Derp.

And all of this of course would result in the duel being changed quite a bit. I'm just brainstorming a different ending of the duel, independent of how the duel took place in the actual OVA. You can't really substitute this in with the real duel and expect it to make sense as it is. I'm just throwing this out there as another possible ending.

I don't think anyone can really say what would've happened to Paradox after the duel if he had won, due to him being fused with his dragon. Maybe it could've been reversible if he won the game proper.

[Arynis]

XD No worries.

Aha, alright then.

I could see him struggling away with the damn thing, too. "I fought all the way here and all I got was this lousy position, fused into a dragon!" Okay, that came out wrong

You have got to ask what would have happened to Sin Truth itself. I mean, wouldn't it dematerialize after the duel? Oops...

[Makoeyes987]

Well once the game was over, Sin Truth Dragon could disappear. Or on the flip side it could just remain as a manifested monster. I mean we just sadly don't know. But clearly Paradox felt it was a necessary risk to undertake in the end. He wanted to win oh so badly.

[Arynis]

Indeed, he had to. Then again, he was a desperate man from a desolate future.

I wonder how it would have gone had Paradox and the protagonists chose to become allies. Okay, I know we can't have that because a conflict in the movie was required, and the protagonists were wound up enough by that point. Maybe in 5D's...

[Makoeyes987]

Indeed, he had to. Then again, he was a desperate man from a desolate future.

I wonder how it would have gone had Paradox and the protagonists chose to become allies. Okay, I know we can't have that because a conflict in the movie was required, and the protagonists were wound up enough by that point. Maybe in 5D's...

Yusei: YOU STOLE MY CARD!
Judai: YOU TRIED TO KILL ME!
Yugi: YOU KILLED MY GRANDFATHER!
Paradox: Now now...Can't we all put that behind us and be friends? I come from the future and with your help... =B

*Paradox is brutally punched and beaten to death with duel disks*

Yugi: We did it! We saved the world!
Judai: Yeah! Damn straight we did!
Yusei: I wouldn't mind saving the world a bit more on his damn stupid bike *kicks it*

[Arynis]

LOL, yeah, exactly. XD That's why I said it wouldn't be possible.

But if the future gets continuously altered, I wonder if that would affect will-appear-sometime-during-the-series'-run Paradox's personality. Would he be more brutal? Would he be more, well, heroic? (Anti Hero maybe?) Would he want to hug cute puppies every second?

[Makoeyes987]

LOL, yeah, exactly. XD That's why I said it wouldn't be possible.

But if the future gets continuously altered, I wonder if that would affect will-appear-sometime-during-the-series'-run Paradox's personality. Would he be more brutal? Would he be more, well, heroic? (Anti Hero maybe?) Would he want to hug cute puppies every second?

God I don't want to even think what all this Yliaster time traveling nonsense will do with that now. It makes me wanna cry.

[Arynis]

And if we assume that they would eventually get what they deserve for all their acts? XD

I'd like to see Illiaster wiped out of history, somehow. Like how they controlled countless lives just for the sake of controlling history, and how that was wrong, they should have let history proceed "naturally".

Destroying Illiaster would undeniably lead to paradoxes, however. Maybe a Reset Button be necessary to undo everything they did, and thus said Reset Button would have to be pressed before reality collapses under all the paradoxes. A Reset Button requiring the entire cast's determination. And afterwards, there'd be LOVE AND PEACE! or at least a more... "normal" environment. Maybe Duel Monsters would be more down to Earth, it wouldn't play as major part in mankind's lives. (Yeah, I know. This is NAS with Konami and their Executive Meddlings.) Maybe there wouldn't be as many conflicts as there were before. It could be a manifestation of Paradox's dream, that certain "best history".

[DarkDust_Dragon]

And if we assume that they would eventually get what they deserve for all their acts? XD

I'd like to see Illiaster wiped out of history, somehow. Like how they controlled countless lives just for the sake of controlling history, and how that was wrong, they should have let history proceed "naturally".

Destroying Illiaster would undeniably lead to paradoxes, however. Maybe a Reset Button be necessary to undo everything they did, and thus said Reset Button would have to be pressed before reality collapses under all the paradoxes. A Reset Button requiring the entire cast's determination. And afterwards, there'd be LOVE AND PEACE! or at least a more... "normal" environment. Maybe Duel Monsters would be more down to Earth, it wouldn't play as major part in mankind's lives. (Yeah, I know. This is NAS with Konami and their Executive Meddlings.) Maybe there wouldn't be as many conflicts as there were before. It could be a manifestation of Paradox's dream, that certain "best history".

That's sadly never possible. Notice the recurring theme in this show - humans doing something stupid/evil/completely f-ing insane, causing chaos, and creating a massive conflict. Even if they do so out of what they think is right, they create a situation where everything becomes chaos. Most don't care; and even the ones who do and have an "Oh my God, what have I done?" moment are too late to fix it themselves. But no matter how many times it is fixed, the same thing happens. It's an infinite circle of conflict upon which the world exist (just ask my good friend Karl Marx).

[Arynis]

NOOOOO YOU LINKED TO TV TROPES B|

But even if the whole thing is cyclical, maybe they can make the situation better, at least? If only temporarily? Like how things have an up and down side, and we'd get to the upper side. I mean, even if horrible things happened in the YGOverse, there was a period when everything was managing fairly better than previously.

Or bring on the alchemy. Bring on the Nigredo en masse! Then Albedo! And Citrinitas! And then we'd be left with the perfect product, the Rubedo!

*looks at GX* ...Oh, wait... GX did that already. Season 1 is Nigredo, Season 2 is Albedo (seriously, Light of Destruction and Society of Light? It screams white!), Season 3 being Citrinitas (the transitions, all the transitions) and Season 4 is Rubedo. (But Darkness is pretty much Nigredo itself... <3 Sabathiel.) Although Poet would be able to explain it better.

I miss alchemy geekery. *sob*

[DarkDust_Dragon]

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NOOOOO YOU LINKED TO TV TROPES B|

But even if the whole thing is cyclical, maybe they can make the situation better, at least? If only temporarily? Like how things have an up and down side, and we'd get to the upper side. I mean, even if horrible things happened in the YGOverse, there was a period when everything was managing fairly better than previously.

Or bring on the alchemy. Bring on the Nigredo en masse! Then Albedo! And Citrinitas! And then we'd be left with the perfect product, the Rubedo!

*looks at GX* ...Oh, wait... GX did that already. Season 1 is Nigredo, Season 2 is Albedo (seriously, Light of Destruction and Society of Light? It screams white!), Season 3 being Citrinitas (the transitions, all the transitions) and Season 4 is Rubedo. (But Darkness is pretty much Nigredo itself... <3 Sabathiel.) Although Poet would be able to explain it better.

I miss alchemy geekery. *sob*

If 5D's did something Alchemical, it might save the show. Actually, Paradox tried to do the same thing with the future really; breaking down, refining, and recreating. Problem is, it came back all f-ed up every single time.

[Arynis]

...Self demonstrating link? XD Sorry, I couldn't resist.

And yeah, exactly. It's all in the mask - Nigredo and Albedo. Heck, Sin Paradox Dragon -> Sin Truth Dragon is freaking Citrinitas. He's on the edge of victory, in a state where history is going through change, but he loses anyway.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

...Self demonstrating link? XD

And yeah, exactly. It's all in the mask - Nigredo and Albedo. Heck, Sin Paradox Dragon -> Sin Truth Dragon is freaking Citrinitas. He's on the edge of victory, in a state where history is going through change, but he loses anyway.

Coding error. Now fixed.

Look closer. Sin Paradox is made of white and black material, with a yellow gem. Sin Truth is yellow with a Red Gem. All 4 stages of Alchemy. Assumably, there would be one final, as of yet unseen red Sin Dragon monster as the true ultimate, or possibly even a world-changing beast.

[Lia]

Yusei: YOU STOLE MY CARD!
Judai: YOU TRIED TO KILL ME!
Yugi: YOU KILLED MY GRANDFATHER!
Paradox: Now now...Can't we all put that behind us and be friends? I come from the future and with your help... =B

*Paradox is brutally punched and beaten to death with duel disks*

Yugi: We did it! We saved the world!
Judai: Yeah! Damn straight we did!
Yusei: I wouldn't mind saving the world a bit more on his damn stupid bike *kicks it*

Hahahah.....I actually imagine one more final line:
Yugi, Yusei, Judai (in one voice) - "I helped most for saving the world! No, it was me! Me, me, me!" *Now the real beating with duel disks can begin* xD

[Arynis]

Coding error. Now fixed.

Look closer. Sin Paradox is made of white and black material, with a yellow gem. Sin Truth is yellow with a Red Gem. All 4 stages of Alchemy. Assumably, there would be one final, as of yet unseen red Sin Dragon monster as the true ultimate, or possibly even a world-changing beast.

I know! I just couldn't help it. XD

Exactly. Although Sin Truth Dragon was one hell of a beast as well. I wonder how would they top Sin Truth, and what would they call it?

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I know! I just couldn't help it. XD

Exactly. Although Sin Truth Dragon was one hell of a beast as well. I wonder how would they top Sin Truth, and what would they call it?

Well, to answer that, I go back to the "Sin" play on words. There is one other use of "Shin" this show uses quite a bit: "Deity". Written above the "Kami" kanji, it comes to mean "God"; not in a religious sense, but as in a Divine being. "Sin God Dragon", simply put, sounds like an ultimate monster; and it follows the Alchemical logic that Truth is the most might mortal thing, but Gods are still higher.

[Arynis]

Ahh, right. Shin as in Shin Yoshida, too. (Oh, wait...)

Sin God Dragon sounds good. Perhaps it could derive from the design of the Children of the Work?



Like this. Although we kind of already have a hermaphrodite floating around who can take the shape of a dragon... *coughYubelcough*

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Ahh, right. Shin as in Shin Yoshida, too. (Oh, wait...)

Sin God Dragon sounds good. Perhaps it could derive from the design of the Children of the Work?



Like this. Although we kind of already have a hermaphrodite floating around who can take the shape of a dragon... *coughYubelcough*

And it must be summoned like this:



That would make it awesome.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hate to double-post, but a question occured to me. We have Sin Paradox's Summon chant, but did we ever get Junk Gardna's translated into something fluid?

[Arynis]

I think so, yes.

{Yuusei: Time to wish for a steel squall of determination, desire for an iron shield. Rise the way, oh light!}

Not the best translation, but it's better than nothing.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I think so, yes.

{Yuusei: Time to wish for a steel squall of determination, desire for an iron shield. Rise the way, oh light!}

Not the best translation, but it's better than nothing.

That might end up something like this:

The clustering desires will create a steel squall of determination, and transform into an iron shield. Become the path its light shines upon!

Since, you know, that's waaaaaaaay closer to his regular chants.

[remaner]

I think so, yes.



Not the best translation, but it's better than nothing.

That might end up something like this:



Since, you know, that's waaaaaaaay closer to his regular chants.

*headdesks more and more*
I hope at least I provided you with some lulz...

[DarkDust_Dragon]

*headdesks more and more*
I hope at least I provided you with some lulz...

Dude, I made the best approximation from that machine translation. Think you could do better?

[remaner]

Dude, I made the best approximation from that machine translation. Think you could do better?

I study Japanese, I should be supposed to sound better than a machine translator.

I'm a dudette by the way

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I study Japanese, I should be supposed to sound better than a machine translator.

I'm a dudette by the way

I meant better than my approximation, not the machine.

My bad.

[remaner]

I meant better than my approximation, not the machine.

My bad.

Nontheless I'm still a bit embarassed by my first fail attempts in translating.

No problem, don't worry.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Nontheless I'm still a bit embarassed by my first fail attempts in translating.

No problem, don't worry.

Eh, we've all had terrible experiences with translations. Apparently, people who sub anime have more than anyone else.

Will do. Won't do. *Insert appropriate response here.*

[Arynis]

http://yugioh5ds-world.net/article/154015646.html

A new figurine series will be released in commemoration of the 10th Anniversary of Yu-Gi-Oh!. The design of the figurines was done by Takahashi, but they will cost 70000 yen. Right now, they will be making Red-Eyes and Blue-Eyes figurines. Additionally, they are going to be sold only on reservation, meaning you order it, wait, and if you're lucky, you'll get it.

[Makoeyes987]

WHEN ARE THEY GONNA MAKE A GODDAMN BLACK MAGICIAN FIGURE?

....

Now that, that's out of my system, this sounds cool. But a bit convoluted and pricey. Wtf? It should not be so damn hard to get a figure.

I'm getting real tired of Konami's dragon fetish.

[Arynis]

I think I have seen images of the figurines on Nintendo World BBS, but I looked at them only in passing and the forum is down for the time being. It was goddamn gorgeous and from what I have seen, quite big, too. That would explain the price.

There could be always more figurines, Mako. The article says "At the present time".

[DarkDust_Dragon]

WHEN ARE THEY GONNA MAKE A GODDAMN BLACK MAGICIAN FIGURE?

....

Now that, that's out of my system, this sounds cool. But a bit convoluted and pricey. Wtf? It should not be so damn hard to get a figure.

I'm getting real tired of Konami's dragon fetish.

I agree 100%. I'm not paying 700 F-ing bucks or so to maybe get one of these, unless they're made of gold or platinum. In which case, I'm getting a sweet deal.

And yeah, they need to have more figures. Arynis is most likely right, and there are more. With any luck, they come with their associated card.

[XERO_Slayer]

Also, Yoshida mentions it here in the Animation Book interview that Paradox is connected to 5D's:



The question to Yoshida is "How was Paradox born?"

The machine translators give really different results, but what seems to be identical in all three is that in order to see Paradox's true character/true colors we'd need to follow 5D's. That implies he would definitely return in some shape, aye.

So even if he died in the movie, the events in 5D's could still alter the future in a manner that the movie's events didn't quite happen. And --sorry Mako-- but the Tenors' meddling seems to be a prime candidate for mucking up the future in the long run. Or, the Signers pulling off something (eg. stopping the Tenors) would also affect the future in the long run, as Illiaster would lose some of its powerful members who could make great changes to the future.

You know Arynis, ever since I read that Paradox's mysterious would be revealed in 5D's, I've been watching and observing closely.

Looking at the recent episodes of Yliaster tampering with history and their plans of erasing Neo Domino City and Momentum, remember how Jose told Yusei that Momentum would lead to the destruction of mankind?

Now remember when Yusei met the spirit of Dr. Fudo, his father, when he, Sherry, and Bruno were sent in that wormhole via Infinity? Remember Dr. Fudo telling his son Yusei that Momentum also lead to the destruction of mankind?

Well I suspect that Momentum and Solid Vision is what leads to the destruction of mankind and the timeline from which Paradox arrives. Since Duel Monsters indirectly lead to the creation of Solid Vision and Momentum, perhaps that may be why Paradox wants the destruction of Duel Monsters.

But after reading the recent posts you have about Paradox apparently discovering some sort of hidden power in Duel Monsters, it makes things more confusing. But anyways, this is my theory and I suspect we are getting closer to the moment where Paradox's secrets will be revealed in the anime.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

You know Arynis, ever since I read that Paradox's mysterious would be revealed in 5D's, I've been watching and observing closely.

Looking at the recent episodes of Yliaster tampering with history and their plans of erasing Neo Domino City and Momentum, remember how Jose told Yusei that Momentum would lead to the destruction of mankind?

Now remember when Yusei met the spirit of Dr. Fudo, his father, when he, Sherry, and Bruno were sent in that wormhole via Infinity? Remember Dr. Fudo telling his son Yusei that Momentum also lead to the destruction of mankind?

Well I suspect that Momentum and Solid Vision is what leads to the destruction of mankind and the timeline from which Paradox arrives. Since Duel Monsters indirectly lead to the creation of Solid Vision and Momentum, perhaps that may be why Paradox wants the destruction of Duel Monsters.

But after reading the recent posts you have about Paradox apparently discovering some sort of hidden power in Duel Monsters, it makes things more confusing. But anyways, this is my theory and I suspect we are getting closer to the moment where Paradox's secrets will be revealed in the anime.

Congratulations. You've come to the same conclusion I did... what, 2 or 3 pages ago now?

[XERO_Slayer]

Congratulations. You've come to the same conclusion I did... what, 2 or 3 pages ago now?

Er...I guess I am late to the party...

Anyone wonder how ZONE fits into all of this?

[Starry]

whelp guys the dubbed version of this movie has finally been announced

sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfYYSN_-k7E

The title is going to be Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D: Bonds Beyond Time and it is getting a theatrical release in Spring 2011.

[Makoeyes987]

IT'S GONNA BE A LONG WAIT FOR A DVD GUYS.

The movie's coming out in theatres. In 3-D. Spring of 2011.

Here you go.

Now we know.

[YYugi]

So this is already announced T_T I wanted to see the movie first in Japanese TT___TT
If you excuse me I will be crying all the night T_T
(don't tell me I can wait for the JP DvD because I want to see it, even if it is dubbed)

On the positive side, we saw new screenshots from the movie

Edit: On the other side, I wonder if I would have the chance to watch it here where I live, the last Yugioh movie was on theatres but who knows if this one will be the same.

[Allana]

whelp guys the dubbed version of this movie has finally been announced

sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfYYSN_-k7E

The title is going to be Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D: Bonds Beyond Time and it is getting a theatrical release in Spring 2011.

A VERY LONG wait until this date. At least, we have a date now.

But the positive side is news screenshots! Paradox's powers are really powerful! Poor Pegasus! And the Crimson Dragon coming on Yugi!
When monsters appears, they seems coming from ice or something. That's curious.

[YYugi]

watching this screenshots for so short that they were is making me excited for this movie again ^^
(not that I lost interest, but if it is a year that we have to wait, maybe you should stop thinking about it a little)
So, one more year to wait....

[Makoeyes987]

A VERY LONG wait until this date. At least, we have a date now.

But the positive side is news screenshots! Paradox's powers are really powerful! Poor Pegasus! And the Crimson Dragon coming on Yugi!
When monsters appears, they seems coming from ice or something. That's curious.

That's them being special summoned by Stardust Mirage. When Yusei activated his trap, "Stardust Mirage" to special summon all of their monsters that were destroyed by Paradox's Sin Truth Dragon last turn. That's the final turn of the duel.

[Arynis]

FGFDGJFGJGSDGFHDFHF

Thank you for taking that video Slifer *A* That trailer is freaking awesome. I'll try taking screenshots of the footage which we don't have screenshots of.

I could have sworn Paradox makes the same shocked face in that trailer Pegasus does right before they both die. So ironic.

Also, updating the first post with info, etc.

[Digitalgirl]

No freaking way ;_;, is the Japanese dvd even going to be out before the dub? My faith is disappearing.

[NeoArkadia]

What's got me curious is how did 4kids get a 50 minute movie a US theatrical release. Don't theaters have a policy of 80~90 minute movies?

[Allana]

That's them being special summoned by Stardust Mirage. When Yusei activated his trap, "Stardust Mirage" to special summon all of their monsters that were destroyed by Paradox's Sin Truth Dragon last turn. That's the final turn of the duel.

Thanks. Now I see again it, It's obvious. Whatever was I thinking of?

[Makoeyes987]

Horoko's insider was right after all.

God, I wonder what other news and info he knows >.>