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And don't forget Kujaku Mai!!!
Seto, Jou and Mai are legendary...Yes.
But Yugi is well...Legendary. Capital L. Cause he stands highest of them all. He's basically the father of all dueling legends. It started with him.
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What else would you expect from a wealthy bitter rival worthy of giving Yugi a run for his money at times?
I love that bastard. And honestly most of the time he's just teasing.That is after he was horribly insane and evil with wealth and power.
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I was serious in considering Kujaku Mai a legendary duelist! XD
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~AND THEN THEY BLEW THEIR BINGS~
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Ahh okay XD
It's funny too, considering when Kaiba does build Kaibaland, he makes it an actual happy, joyous amusement park, but still keeps a section called Death T, which is now a...virtual theatre.
At least he's changed his theme park creation habits for the better, right?
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Indeed. Yugi's MIND CRUSH did some lasting justice there. XD
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None of that was done after DM though. And again, not complaining, just going, "wtf" again and again.
Very true. The TCG rulings on it suck BTW.This is YGO. The plot dictates how the cards are played. Complaining or whining about a card that's already been shown to basically redirect anything Yugi needs at the time (targeting monster effects, equip spell card effects, and even effect damage) is redundant and unnecessary. Mystical Refpanel in the anime redirects anything. Its original manga effect and OCG effect mean nothing in the anime.
Not really, because he actually uses effects to get to his monsters. Paradox is ironically the anti-ass-pull player. So apparently, YuGiOh's message is, "It's better to be lucky than good, and both if you can swing it".The Sin monsters in the movie don't have their balanced draw back of only being able to be summoned while a field spell card is on the field, or where only one can exist on the field, and other monsters can't attack. So are you going to complain about Paradox having an asspull deck? C'mon.
Celine Dion is a great artist (and I'm not saying that just because she's Canadian) it's just... that song is so overused...
He's most likely dead now. In Zero Reverse.
Agreed.
Better than the Legendary Ass-fv(ks.
You don't tease people about committing suicide/possibly them killing you. That's just the king of Dick Moves.
And the last time she won against a non-Character of the Week was...?I was serious in considering Kujaku Mai a legendary duelist! XD
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At this point its just standard fair. Either cards will get their effects manipulated to suit the situation or we'll have numerous one-shot situational cards. I personally find the former better, at least.
It's use is unfortunately very limited.Very true. The TCG rulings on it suck BTW.
That's because his deck is extremely broken on its own. No asspulls necessary. A field spell that basically lets you fish for any of your huge beat stick monsters and special summon them with no draw back isn't exactly the epitome of skill. It's power. He doesn't even have to normal summon anything. All he has to do is use Sin World's effect, remove the original counterpart from play and special summon. It's pure overwhelm.Not really, because he actually uses effects to get to his monsters. Paradox is ironically the anti-ass-pull player. So apparently, YuGiOh's message is, "It's better to be lucky than good, and both if you can swing it".
He's probably dead, but we don't know if it was in the Zero Reverse. He could've died from old age due to how far 5Ds is into the future.He's most likely dead now. In Zero Reverse.
The only reason he did that was because he was desperate to save his brother from Pegasus. He apologized. He didn't do that just to tease him. He has more honor than that.You don't tease people about committing suicide/possibly them killing you. That's just the king of Dick Moves.
That doesn't mean she wasn't good. The plot was stacked against her. She was a successful duelist in the story, and was among the top four in Battle City and Duelist Kingdom. Hell, in the GX manga, when they talk about the legendary duelists, she's right up there with Jou, Kaiba, and Yugi.And the last time she won against a non-Character of the Week was...?
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How do you know what it now is, assuming you're not just speculating? And is just me or is it odd that one of the locations is called "Water Closet"? Or is it a mistranslation?
First of all, I've watched people play the card game, and they mostly use cards from the newer series and frankly, I find the gameplay to be boring to death. So kudos to Yuugi for making a card game look cool.
Secondly, Atem was dead to begin with and it didn't take away from his cool factor. Yuugi himself is a similar kind of person now. And what is Zero Reverse anyway?
Third, he's not exactly better than them by a long shot given some of the stuff he's pulled. I mean seriously, have you seen his duel against those masked guys in Battle City, the one where they had bombs set up on a glassed roof? Especially in the manga, some of his comments to Yuugi had "ass-hole" written all over them.
Fourth, that was attempted suicide and not murder no matter how he tried to put it. Yuugi is just too kind to pretty much everyone.
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That's Takahashi's drawing of Kaiba Land America, that he included in one of the YGO Bunkobans. This is what it will look like in the future, of the GX era.
Zero Reverse is the disaster that strikes Domino City and kills almost every single one of its inhabitants. It's what physically splits Domino City into Neo Domino, and Satellite.Secondly, Atem was dead to begin with and it didn't take away from his cool factor. Yuugi himself is a similar kind of person now. And what is Zero Reverse anyway?
...How could you equate Battle City Kaiba....to Haga? Kaiba saved Jounouchi's life, which I think shows just where his heart lies when all is said and done. And what about the stupid masked Rare Hunters? Are you talking about his resistance to team work? I'm sorry, but when you've grown up self raised, having to take care of your child brother, and fight your way through a world that sees you as nothing more than an asset, I think trust and teamwork aren't aspects that grow too easily. Give him a break.Third, he's not exactly better than them by a long shot given some of the stuff he's pulled. I mean seriously, have you seen his duel against those masked guys in Battle City, the one where they had bombs set up on a glassed roof? Especially in the manga, some of his comments to Yuugi had "ass-hole" written all over them.
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Was that a manga-only moment, his apology?
You make a mistake there. The top four of Battle City are Malik, Kaiba, Jonouchi and Yuugi. The duel tower arc makes that amply clear.That doesn't mean she wasn't good. The plot was stacked against her. She was a successful duelist in the story, and was among the top four in Battle City and Duelist Kingdom. Hell, in the GX manga, when they talk about the legendary duelists, she's right up there with Jou, Kaiba, and Yugi.
To make myself clearer, what I was asking is how do you know what Death-T became? Even in that drawing, it doesn't make it that clear.That's Takahashi's drawing of Kaiba Land America, that he included in one of the YGO Bunkobans. This is what it will look like in the future, of the GX era.
Oh come on. Without getting all dramatic, you can admit that Kaiba generally remains an ass, just a slightly improved ass. I'm talking about the comment he made about using his teammate when Yuugi was trying to give him an opening. And come on, this is Yuugi we're talking about here. Even someone as stubborn as Kaiba is knows of Yuugi's integrity and that unlike himself, if there's anyone he could trust, it would be Yuugi....How could you equate Battle City Kaiba....to Haga? Kaiba saved Jounouchi's life, which I think shows just where his heart lies when all is said and done. And what about the stupid masked Rare Hunters? Are you talking about his resistance to team work? I'm sorry, but when you've grown up self raised, having to take care of your child brother, and fight your way through a world that sees you as nothing more than an asset, I think trust and teamwork aren't aspects that grow too easily. Give him a break.
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Just to bring it up, there is no concrete evidence about how far in the future 5Ds is. In fact, the only official source we have (The animation book) proves Tetsu is the same Tetsu who Yami Yugi faced in his first ever Shadow Game. This means it cannot be TOO far in the future, unless as a form of treatment doctors sent Tetsu into the future to cure his Penalty Game (which in the manga didn't seem to end, he must love that money, he ate garbage thinking it was money LOL). Tetsu at most is in his 40s.
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Agreed. That's why I reuse those cards so much in my fanfiction so they at least have a purpose.
He does have to Normal Summon one thing to execute his Ace Strategy, but otherwise yes. And either way, my point remains. In real Life, a deck that broken would own anything in its path. Against any other anime characters, it owns. Put him against the Protagonists, and for some reason he loses. Right...That's because his deck is extremely broken on its own. No asspulls necessary. A field spell that basically lets you fish for any of your huge beat stick monsters and special summon them with no draw back isn't exactly the epitome of skill. It's power. He doesn't even have to normal summon anything. All he has to do is use Sin World's effect, remove the original counterpart from play and special summon. It's pure overwhelm.
Doubt it, especially since Ushio isn't.He's probably dead, but we don't know if it was in the Zero Reverse. He could've died from old age due to how far 5Ds is into the future.
At least japanese Kaiba has that then. The dub has this bad tendency to make every character as ******* as possible, bjut Kaiba takes the cake. Insulting Yugi because he wasn't man enough to kill you? That's a Dick Move. (And also a sign of mental illness.)The only reason he did that was because he was desperate to save his brother from Pegasus. He apologized. He didn't do that just to tease him. He has more honor than that.
So were Haga and Ryusaki. Look what happened to them.That doesn't mean she wasn't good. The plot was stacked against her. She was a successful duelist in the story, and was among the top four in Battle City and Duelist Kingdom. Hell, in the GX manga, when they talk about the legendary duelists, she's right up there with Jou, Kaiba, and Yugi.
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That's really good.
Well how is he any better than a lucky character? Cause his deck works like a machine? No deck has a 100% chance of winning after all. I definitely don't think he's unbeatable.He does have to Normal Summon one thing to execute his Ace Strategy, but otherwise yes. And either way, my point remains. In real Life, a deck that broken would own anything in its path. Against any other anime characters, it owns. Put him against the Protagonists, and for some reason he loses. Right...
On the flip side Ushio could've been frozen, Yugi could still be alive somewhere else, or a number of possibilities.Doubt it, especially since Ushio isn't.
The dub really plays up Kaiba's meanness, to the point it warps his character. You shouldn't trust it as an accurate depiction of his character at all.At least japanese Kaiba has that then. The dub has this bad tendency to make every character as ******* as possible, bjut Kaiba takes the cake. Insulting Yugi because he wasn't man enough to kill you? That's a Dick Move. (And also a sign of mental illness.)
Yeah but they never made it as far as Mai, so that's an inaccurate comparison.So were Haga and Ryusaki. Look what happened to them.
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Thank you. I thought it made way more sense for a card to get repeated use than to just be written out after one use so if I have to, I tweak the effect a bit and make it more flexible.
Oh of course not but he's got a better chance of winning than most of the rest of the cast, some of whom have beaten the protagonists. Paradox could probably drive Ed Phoenix or Kyosuke Kiryu into the ground.Well how is he any better than a lucky character? Cause his deck works like a machine? No deck has a 100% chance of winning after all. I definitely don't think he's unbeatable.
Oh, you don't say.On the flip side Ushio could've been frozen, Yugi could still be alive somewhere else, or a number of possibilities.
It screws up everyone that way. Even Dartz, who had a decent voice and dialogue, was reduced to lampshading Kaiba's anger by the end. Not to mention being inexplicably British.The dub really plays up Kaiba's meanness, to the point it warps his character. You shouldn't trust it as an accurate depiction of his character at all.
They were National Champions at one point, were they not? Or is that just another dub warping; because I know they were champions at something. Besides sucking, that is.Yeah but they never made it as far as Mai, so that's an inaccurate comparison.
Well, considering it supposedly started 10 years after DM ended, GX is a ways into the future. 5D's...I thought Kizuna's animation said it was the year 2021 or something. Which would NOT be 17 years after GX (only about 15),which means Judai and co would have gone to the city torn in half, so I guess not now that I think about it.
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Yeah, they were. What Yugi and co. watched on TV was the finale of that National Tournament, if I remember well enough.
A few corrections:Well, considering it supposedly started 10 years after DM ended, GX is a ways into the future. 5D's...I thought Kizuna's animation said it was the year 2021 or something. Which would NOT be 17 years after GX (only about 15),which means Judai and co would have gone to the city torn in half, so I guess not now that I think about it.
- DM ended in 1997, GX started in 2004 and ended in 2007. That makes it 7 years between DM and GX, not 10.
- 5D's takes place in 20XX according to the manga. No information in the anime.
- The 2021 thing is as fake as everyone's favorite "Gay Clown".*
* Yes, you could argue that it's a kind of an extreme situation like Yusei's birthday being in December or something (and 5D's began in January), but... I still find "Dairy 2021" being a date unlikely.
All according to our findings and discussion in the Timeline Project thread.
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The general consensus in the thread is that DM took place over one year and a half. We know that the main group advanced from Grade 1-A to 2-A, so a year must have passed. The tournaments didn't last for too long (Duelist Kingdom took only 3 days, Battle City didn't take much more than that, either). We are disregarding fillers for the sake of integrity here, because of their unfortunate plotholes. (Eg. Rafael owning Duel Monsters cards despite the card game not being invented yet at the time.)
I meant "Dairy 2021" being a date unlikely, not December birthdays. I meant how it could be possible that a full year hasn't passed, since I assumed that New Year's Eve happened between Yusei's 18th and 19th birthdays. But in the case of 5D's beginning in January and Yusei's 19th birthday being in December, New Years Eve wouldn't pass yet. Sorry if that wasn't clear from my wording.December Birthdays unlikely? Double-check that one.
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The manga states itself the DM timeline. These date are sure, we checked them ourselves. We worked with the Gospel of Truth for the birthdays. We added all dates states in the three series.
In all cases, 2021 can't be correct because there a difference only 14 years.
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...Prototype copies?
IYeah, I know. I was jokin' with ya.meant "Dairy 2021" being a date unlikely, not December birthdays. I meant how it could be possible that a full year hasn't passed, since I assumed that New Year's Eve happened between Yusei's 18th and 19th birthdays. But in the case of 5D's beginning in January and Yusei's 19th birthday being in December, New Years Eve wouldn't pass yet. Sorry if that wasn't clear from my wording.
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According to the manga though, he still *did* insult him. Though perhaps not so much insult as ridicule.
Hmm, how temporary are they? I can imagine the director's pixelated vision must have been a nightmare to live with.
And btw, what precisely happened in this Zero Reverse? Was it some sort of epidemic, a natural disaster, what?
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It's a bit difficult to explain if you haven't seen 5D's.
There was this energy reactor, developed by Kaiba Corporation's M.I.D.S. branch, with spinning energy in it (called Momentum), which one day had its polarity reversed, which caused the entire reactor to blow up. The blast killed everyone in the vicinity (sans the protagonist, who was saved by his father), causing earthquakes thus splitting the entire Domino City into two halves, a smaller and a bigger chunk. The former was named Satellite, the latter was named Neo Domino City. This event which split the City in half is referred to as Zero Reverse.
It Makes Sense In Context.
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The time of a penalty is different almost each time.
The penalty of ZTV's producer take place only during the show TV. Seto's first penalty game occuring during one night. Sozoji can hear again normally the next day after the penalty. Mai's penalty game occurs during 24 hours. ZTV's director can see normally after some weeks. The player killer's penalty is apparently permanent but the Gospel of Truth don't stated If the penalty itself or the psychologics consequences of the penalty.
The Zero Reverse isn't a epidemic or a natural disaster. It is happened by Rudger, a Dark Signer. The 57th episode of 5d's explain it.
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Nowhere near as bad as in the dub of the anime. He acted like sparing somebody from death was an unforgiveable act if it menat losing a game. Apparently then, Kaibe places a higher value in card games than living.
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Everyone in the vicinity, Arynis. "The blast killed everyone" could mean it ended human existence. Otherwise, yes.
My guess is the psychological effects vary for everyone, as with any incident.
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Oh, any explanation is better than none. Might be a bit confusing, but I get the general idea. So Kaiba essentially caused the destruction of one city? *sighs* Why does that not surprise me...
Still not interested in 5D's, but thanks for the extra detail! The fun always stops as soon as someone dies. In a way, is it really still Yugioh if people have died? I guess most penalty games were temporary, but guys like the thief at Burger World and the museum curator Kanekura definitely died.
I think it's a well-established fact, especially for Yugioh, that nothing is ever as bad as in a dub where anime is concerned. But since I read the manga chapter recently, trust me when I say that his, shall we say "real" reaction was not much better than his dub reaction. Sure he had his reasons, but as far as I'm concerned, those are excuses. Whether it was him or Yuugi who beat Pegasus, the end result would have been the same, after all. Considering that he was the one who made a speech about the value of life, Anzu was right that he sure was ready to throw his away a little too easily. As for the penalty games, we can perhaps safely assume that their length and degree is representative of the evil of the deed they're being punished for. They can probably just feel happy that they'll never have to see Yuugi again, after they recover.![]()
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....Kaiba had nothing to do with it. This is in the 5Ds era. Kaiba is long gone. His corporation lives on past him. No one from the original YGO series is involved in 5Ds save for Ushio. The person who caused Zero Reverse was Rudger. He triggered it.
You're forgetting Pegasus.Still not interested in 5D's, but thanks for the extra detail! The fun always stops as soon as someone dies. In a way, is it really still Yugioh if people have died? I guess most penalty games were temporary, but guys like the thief at Burger World and the museum curator Kanekura definitely died.
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You mean after the penalty? It is stated the ZTV's producer loose his job and his money, Seto created Death T next to his penalty, Sozoji sing without shrill, Mai is herself, ZTV's director don't use mosaic in his shows TV. The Death Imitator stop to imitate. In the spirit of the player killer, the night is permanent.
The thief of the Burger World is cured in hospital and seems become someone good. Kanekura is died from a cardiac arrest because the shock. Pegasus also is died, killed by Bakura.Originally Posted by PharaohAtem
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Yeah, Pegasus too. He was one of the more major characters who fell to the Grim Reaper. I think Dark Marik also "died" (or vanished) at the end of the Yugi vs Marik duel by Marik surrendering the duel. Dark Bakura was gone when Zork was defeated in the Dark RPG.
I think Marik's father died too, after Dark Marik skinned him alive. And Marik's mother died in childbirth. So did Mokuba's and Kaiba's mother, who also died in childbirth. Then their father died as well, and then the rest of the relatives put Kaiba and Mokuba into an orphanage. Cyndia died due to an illness. The man who tried to steal the Millennium Ring when Pegasus went to Egypt was killed by the Ring. Gozaburo died when Kaiba took over KC and he jumped out of the window. Keith was killed due to Pegasus' Penalty Game. In R, the Tenma brothers lost their parents. In fact, all the children Pegasus adopted were orphans. Then there's Shadi, who may or may not be dead during the run of the series. (I think we've come to a consensus that Shadi is dead, or that he died at one point in the series.) Ryota Kajiki's father died as well. Pandora's mother died for unknown reasons and his lover died in a magic trick went awry, he considered suicide after both of these deaths. Bakura's sister, Amane, died in a car accident. Chopman died during the Death-T. And didn't Kaiba's butler die when he was shocked by the electricity?
If you count the filler arcs, Noa Kaiba died initially but his brain was uploaded into a computer, but he eventually died for real when the facility was destroyed (I think), along with anime!Gozaburo. Amelda had his brother killed. Rafael lost his family when the cruise ship was sunk by a tidal wave, killing everyone on it. I think the nun who tended Valon died too when the church was burned. I assume anime!Mr. Crocketts died during the Doma arc when he went to investigate the gas station, which blew up. Yugi and co. managed to drive off with the limo, but Mr. Crocketts was nowhere in sight.
On the topic of the movie, Sugoroku, Pegasus and the rest of the crowd dies when Paradox blows up the buildings, the rubbles killing everyone in the vicinity (sans Yugi). However, this outcome is changed when Yugi is saved by the Crimson Dragon, takes him back 30 minutes in time, then the protagonists stop Paradox from carrying out his act, so the aforementioned people do "stay" alive. Then there's Paradox destroyed future, which is fubar in its entirety, and Paradox himself kicks it when the protagonists beat him while he's fused into Sin Truth Dragon.
And if you count video games, Pegasus gains yet another death count in Reshef of Destruction when Reshef, who Pegasus revived from a tablet, worms itself into his heart, and he requests the main character to finish him off. I think he's either sealed away or killed by the Egyptian Gods when your character summons them. Either way, he's gone, so is Reshef.
...And this isn't even the end, the deaths in the spin-offs and the rest of the material haven't been mentioned at all. (Apart from the Zero Reverse.) Adding up how almost every character has a tragic or depressing backstory, how most of them have issues, we can say Yu-Gi-Oh! is a pretty dark and grim series, alright.
Was that ever stated in the series? And how would that be possible if not a single Duel Monsters card existed back then? Pegasus was the only one who could recreate the card game. Also, do notice that the Millennium Ring is already on the market, while it was still in the underground temple when Pegasus received the Millennium Eye. Shadi had guarded the Items pretty tightly, too. When Pegasus went to Egypt, a thief tried to steal the Ring, but he got caught. You don't get away with that easily, so I could see it taking a while until the Ring made it to the markets. Thus, the first Duel Monsters cards could have been made by that point, assuming that Pegasus got to recreating the game right away upon getting brainwashed by the Eye.
However, the game was initially famous in America. How could it have gotten to Egypt in such a short time?
Or, to put it differently: Was that card in the manga as well? Or else I'm going to call stupid anime details again. That card's art does look neat, though.
Considering that Yu-Gi-Oh! more or less followed the release of the manga (with the series beginning in 1996 and ending in 1997) and GX more or less following real life dates (2004-2007), I don't see why would the calculation of the years suddenly change during 5D's...2021, yes, but maybe in another calculation of times. 2021 a.t.b. to take the Code Geass-Example.
http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/A.t....erial_Calendar
This should explain.
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That's right, the death is very present in Yu-Gi-Oh!. Kazuki Takahashi states himself the death is one of the main themes in Yu-Gi-Oh! with the friendship, love, egoism...
Takahashi had said also accross the card game, he wants to show interactivity in a game with also differents personalities. Even If magic and surnatural exists in Yu-Gi-Oh!, it stay realist, it reflect the real life accross a lot of things, particularly the humans feelings. The death can have consequences on humans, on their destiny, on their way to be. Sometimes, the death, when it coming, creates destiny completly differents. This aspect is particularly shown in Yu-Gi-Oh! If Seto and Mokuba's parents weren't died, Gozaburo would never discover Seto in this orphenage and choose him as his heir after one chess match.
Also, we can say Yu-Gi-Oh starts with the death somewhere. It's because Cyndia is died Pegasus went to Egypt to search something who can help him. If Cyndia wasn't died of this uncurable illness, they could be happy together and Pegasus would have never got Millenium Eye.
But it wasn't the destiny? Shadi states himself, when Marik and Isis was gone whithout say it to their father, that the Pharaoh's soul will ressurect soon. Cyndia's death was it ineluctable as the death of Mokuba's and Seto's parents for Pegasus creates Duel Monsters and Seto become the boss of the Kaiba Corporation, with all consequences, leading to the events of the manga?
This ineluctable fate is more stronger with Paradox himself. This time, the entire humanity dies, even in despite of the presence of the Signers and the Three Polars Gods masters. The fate and destiny seems always strongers humans themselves. But the destiny can change by multiples ways...
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The manga states very clearly Pegasus had created himself Duel Monsters card game. He is the first and only person who did it. The manga is very clear about this topic. The anime did a very stupid mistake.
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Aaah okay! Thanks for the link, Arynis.Originally Posted by Arynis
The timeline in Yu-Gi-Oh! follows the real calendar so 5d's should do it also, logically.
Anyway, 2021 can't correspond for another reason. Kizuna mentions 2021. This same date can be seen when Team Ragnarok come for the Exhibition Match. The problem is in episode 65, Yusei mentions 6 months spend since the battle against the Dark Signers and the episode 73 states WRGP take place in 1 year. So, even If 2021 was the corect year, It isn't possible, the year of the WRGP should be 2022.
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He pulled the level. The trigger was fired by Yliaster, remember? Jose boasted about it.
In terms of the Manga, yes.You're forgetting Pegasus.
Yes, I remember that. And if we wanna throw in darkness' answer that these cards created the Universe, or that Brron was trying to "revive" Super Fusion...
If we're still in a time when humans look like they do now, and old landmarks are recognizable, I doubt it.2021, yes, but maybe in another calculation of times. 2021 a.t.b. to take the Code Geass-Example.
Which demonstrates my point; that different Penalty Games have varying lengths of after-effects in terms of time.
Well, depending on how you interpret that (anime or manga), Dark Bakura either was Zorc, or was his accomplice Their King Bakura, who sacrificed himself.
I don't think it's explicitly stated in either version that he died; in Japan, they just said he was in a car accident. And anyway, since the brain decays quickly, and all inform ation with it, you could only really copy the mind of a live brain.If you count the filler arcs, Noa Kaiba died initially but his brain was uploaded into a computer, but he eventually died for real when the facility was destroyed (I think), along with anime!Gozaburo. Amelda had his brother killed. Rafael lost his family when the cruise ship was sunk by a tidal wave, killing everyone on it. I think the nun who tended Valon died too when the church was burned. I assume anime!Mr. Crocketts died during the Doma arc when he went to investigate the gas station, which blew up. Yugi and co. managed to drive off with the limo, but Mr. Crocketts was nowhere in sight.
Which we know to be at least parttly his fault, seeing as how his experiments made it start falling apart.Then there's Paradox destroyed future, which is fubar in its entirety, and Paradox himself kicks it when the protagonists beat him while he's fused into Sin Truth Dragon.
Like how it's really heavily implied that Amon and Echo stayed dead....And this isn't even the end, the deaths in the spin-offs and the rest of the material haven't been mentioned at all. (Apart from the Zero Reverse.) Adding up how almost every character has a tragic or depressing backstory, we can say Yu-Gi-Oh! is a pretty dark and grim series, alright.
Start calling; anime addition. But hey, its ATK and DEF are 666, so I like it.Was that ever stated in the series? And how would that be possible if not a single Duel Monsters card existed back then? Pegasus was the only one who could recreate the card game. Also, do notice that the Millennium Ring is already on the market, while it was still in the underground temple when Pegasus received the Millennium Eye. Shadi had guarded the Items pretty tightly, too. When Pegasus went to Egypt, a thief tried to steal the Ring, but he got caught. You don't get away with that easily, so I could see it taking a while until the Ring made it to the markets. Thus, the first Duel Monsters cards could have been made by that point, assuming that Pegasus got to recreating the game right away upon getting brainwashed by the Eye.
However, the game was initially famous in America. How could it have gotten to Egypt in such a short time?
Or, to put it differently: Was that card in the manga as well? Or else I'm going to call stupid anime details again. That card's art does look neat, though.
Considering that Yu-Gi-Oh! more or less followed the release of the manga (with the series beginning in 1996 and ending in 1997) and GX more or less following real life dates (2004-2007), I don't see why would the calculation of the years suddenly change during 5D's...I would assume that it's only if a previous major event in history forced them to reset, which would make the year in this show over 4000. Thus, Ushio could not still be alive; even if he was frozen, in that time ice damage would leave his body a side of mystery meat by then.
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Even if the car accident didn't kill him at the time, he's certainly super-dead now that his mind has been deleted, body rotted and mobile fortress destroyed. And nice death list Arynis, I'll add the Big 5 to the list. Like Noa, their bodies are dead and their minds are deleted too.Originally Posted by DarkDust_Dragon
On the subject of the criminal whom Yugi blows up in Burger World, the penalty games section of the Gospel of Truth has never been translated, but as far as I understand it Dark Yugi never actually killed anyone (unless you count Dark Marik and Dark Bakura).
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That's true; I'm just saying that he wasn't dead when he went in. Obviously he is know, regardless of how the dub tries to sugar-coat it.
He made the guy burst into flames. If he didn't die in it, he'd wish he had.On the subject of the criminal whom Yugi blows up in Burger World, the penalty games section of the Gospel of Truth has never been translated, but as far as I understand it Dark Yugi never actually killed anyone (unless you count Dark Marik and Dark Bakura).
Main characters. Minor characters can stay dead as many as needed.
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So what? We already established that not *that* much time has passed and Yuugi would most likely still be alive, so why not Kaiba Seto too?
Oh yeah, him. Well, aside from the fact that his death was rather underwhelming, he was a far less interesting character in the anime, and I never did much care for Duelist Kingdom as a whole.
Yeah, I did know about the exact manner of Kanekura's death, in Pegasus' case it's probably just blood loss, but I thought the thief had burned alive. Is this another reference to future series, about him becoming good?
I have to admit I simply don't remember these Death Imitator or Sozoji people... Which chapters of the manga were they in?
How exactly is the eye supposed to have brainwashed Pegasus? I never did get that part. Pegasus might have seemed somewhat obsessive, but not completely OOC. About characters that we count as dead, I think anyone who died before the start of the series or was dead to begin with (like Atem and thief Bakura) don't really count as dying. Also, the dark Malik does not exactly count because he's not even another person, but just a part of Malik. And Shaadi, it definitely seems like he was dead before the series started. Actually, did Bakura Ryou get the ring five years ago? I don't see any other way that thief Bakura/Zork could have killed him. And no, I don't count any fillers, movies or any other bits that were not in the original manga.
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