Thread: Yugioh Clich�s, Misconceptions and Other Related Nonsense

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I just realized...

Shapesnatch is the BOWTIE. :0

This makes me oddly sad.

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

Though you ppl had very logical theories there but this is still YGO! .

Ha ha..! Yeah. But, just because it's Yuugiou doesn't mean it isn't at least somewhat logical. We were talking about an instance in which the manga seemed like it was trying to be sort of logical and the DM anime seemed to sweep it all under the rug with "IT'S MAGIC!!" Yuugiou is often just as much about logical mind puzzles as it is about dealing with the fantastically impossible.

But yeah, that doesn't really change the fact that sometimes the "logic" in Yuugiou doesn't... quite... work...

Well I maybe was wrong there, cuz I've seen only the anime version of that Pegasus VS. Dark Yugi duel. Thats why I take it all as a simple Duel of Darkness magic, where all sorts of things usually happen.
Thats why its more easier for me to think that Pegasus with his M. Eye magic made the video tape to be some sort of a trigger for a Game of Darkness. And here is where I'm again in off-screenvile

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

Well I maybe was wrong there, cuz I've seen only the anime version of that Pegasus VS. Dark Yugi duel. Thats why I take it all as a simple Duel of Darkness magic, were all sorts of things usually happen.
Thats why its more easier for me to think that Pegasus with his M. Eye magic made the video tape to be some sort of a trigger for a Game of Darkness. And here is where I'm again in off-screenvile

Plausible theory. The video itself could have been "loaded" with a switch to a Game of Darkness/Yami no Game beforehand. Who knows? Games of Darkness are reputed to be of kicka$$ power.

Yeah it can be a simple video message on a video tape that in the same time is a trigger for a Game of Darkness. So after its put in the VCR or at a certain minute of the video the dark magic is activated and puts the one that established the game(like Dark Marik usually did) and the one that watches the tape into a Game of Darkness no matter where the creator of the trigger/the one that have put the dark magic in the tape is. The dark magic just makes an online connection via the TV screen and locks the 2 players in that dark sphere we have seen many times in the show until there is a winner from the set game. Meaning, the game does not have to be Duel Monsters cards.

Its just a nice trap of dark magic combined a bit with present technology. Not to mention that way it looks completely harmless until you don't hit play X).

Yuugiou involves a lot of mind games, so it's most likely a trick to keep Yuugi busy thinking, "How the hell is a video tape fighting me?" while Pegasus makes his moves.

For those of you who haven't read the manga, I brought this up because in the manga there is a bunch of additional dialogue and stuff where Yuugi is sure that Pegasus is using subliminal messaging to control him by inserting extra frames into the video of what he wants Yuugi to do. He even confirms this suspicion by asking the others in the room to guess what card he just drew, and 2 out of 3 of them are able to correctly guess that it was some sort of skeleton monster. This meant that they were all influenced by the same subconscious suggestion.

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

So after its put in the VCR or at a certain minute of the video the dark magic is activated and puts the one that established the game(like Dark Marik usually did) and the one that watches the tape into a Game of Darkness no matter where the creator of the trigger/the one that have put the dark magic in the tape is. The dark magic just makes an online connection via the TV screen and locks the 2 players in that dark sphere we have seen many times in the show until there is a winner from the set game.

It's said several times in the manga that only the 2 players are able to see the supernatural things that go on in a Game of Darkness (that's not just Malik's trick). Also, that "dark sphere" doesn't show up in all the same places in the manga. For instance when Yuugi fought Pegasus in the Duelist Kingdom finals, while he was in some dark world cut-off from his friends, to everyone else watching it appeared as if nothing was different and Yuugi and Pegasus were just sitting at a normal card table.

The only times I can distinctly remember the "dark sphere" are in Evil Malik's duels. Only those times, everyone can see the dark fog but they still can't see the effects of the Game of Darkness. For instance, it has to be explained to them how Yuugi and Good Malik are being consumed as they lose life points because they aren't able to see it. It's almost as if the pure reckless hate of Malik's split personality made the Game of Darkness more potent.

Originally Posted by Dr_Watson

There’s too many and some of them seem to run through this fandom as canon-based facts (which is most evident in the huge amount of bad fanfiction). In a bout of boredom, I thought it might be fun to try and list some of them.

The classics:

-“season 0” is “incredibly violent” (this is made even funnier when it comes from people who’ve actually seen the damn thing)
-Dark Yugi is taller/older than Yugi
-Kaiba is 18
-Katsuya is a surname (lol, Katsuya Joey XD)
-Anzu (not just T�a) gives too many friendship speeches
-Yugi, Bakura and Malik and their possessors/alter egos refer to each other as yamis/hikaris in the show (seriously, where did that come from?)
-Prior to 4Kids censoring, Yugioh was filled with excessive violence and/or swearing and/or sexual innuendo. It was adult TV.


And that’s just off the top of my head. Anyone game?

It is not entirely false that the first series can be considered violent to some extent. In episode 2 a man has an illusion of being burned alive (albeit by green fire). Also, Yuugi does get punched a number of times, and not in the friendly way. As far as names go, only the thief Bakura is ever referred to by Yuugi as "Yami no Bakura-kun". In Malik's case, it's called his evil personality. Yuugi only refers to the other Yuugi as his "other self", and for the greater part of the anime, his friends think of the other Yuugi as just another personality of Yuugi and don't call him any different than they do Yuugi. Then, they just call him the other Yuugi, and not very frequently either.

And while not necessarily filled with violence, the original series did at least have threats of violence.

Seirei no Kagami (Fairy's Mirror) is one of Yuugi's cards that he uses in the duel against the Malik-controlled Jonouchi, and with which he finally redirects Death Meteor at himself. The physical representation of the card's animation is a naked girl behind a large mirror. So you have at least that as one example nudity, not that they are plentiful in Yugioh.

Swearing, I'm sure you can find plenty of that. Even Yuugi and the other Yuugi are given to it sometimes, but the guiltiest parties are likely Kaiba, Bakura and Malik.

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

Misconceptions:
- The show is all about cards.
- Yugi saves the world with cards.
- All Tea ever does is give friendship speeches.
- YGO is like Pokemon.

Nonsense:
- The power of friendship will conqure anything.
- Believe in the heart of the cards and you'll somehow draw the right card in your last turn.
- Yugi will always win. No matter what.

In the manga, it is during their "date" that Anzu encourages the other Yuugi to be honest with himself. In the end, though he had been very hesitant all throughout the chapter, it is thanks to her that he finally decided to go to the museum. As for the show being all about cards, well, the anime is, sadly, called Duel Monsters. Right up until the pharaoh's memory arc, the card game is pretty much used and abused, and even then... So unfortunately, while the manga is not all about cards, the second anime series is.

What you describe as nonsense about friendship is actually the climax of the series. Near the end of his memory, Horakhti tells Atem that it is because of the power of unity among friends that he could find his name. Unity is also the power of the Puzzle. Rather than being nonsense, I've always thought of it as a nice metaphor. A friend to whom I've recently described Yugioh and the powers of each Sennen Item thought of the following representations of the Puzzle's power: unity within the mind, wholeness and integrity, a kind of unattainable goal still worth striving for. The wish of Atem's friends to protect him was a key factor in uncovering his name. The card thing, though, is more about Atem controlling his fate.

Originally Posted by Evans

Heres a misconception.

--- In the manga the powers behind duel monsters just appeared from nothing 3000 years ago (They were translated from the allready ancient Book Of Sealed Shadow Alchemey.)

You mean that in the english manga, that's how it was done, right? Because of course this is not true. The evil actions of people were thought to be caused by evil spirits that resided within them. Those evil spirits were captured and sealed into the stone tablets by the Sennen Items.

Pleas stop double/triple posting. You did this way to many times by now.

If you are such a YGO! manga elitist you may find the manga section more interesting.

Originally Posted by DARKMASTER

Pleas stop double/triple posting. You did this way to many times by now.

If you are such a YGO! manga elitist you may find the manga section more interesting.

I don't think it's up to you to dictate to me which version I prefer and which forum sections I should visit. Actually, about the double posting, I was replying to different people and they were somewhat lengthy replies, so I didn't think of it as double posting. If it's forbidden though, please let me know. Otherwise, please let it be.

Yes it is forbidden. You can quote all the stuff you want to answer to in 1 post. The length doesn't matter here when you have something worth to say/read.

There is the EDIT button with which you can fix it all.

I noticed that there was never a conclusive theory about Pegasus' tape. Personally,I think themost logical thign would be that Peggy placed a piece of his soul inside the tape a la Dark Bakura and that part of Pregasus is what dueled Yugi in the Game of Darkness.

Also, that guy who was trapt in an illusion of being burned by green fire was really burned by real fire in the manga. ToeiYGO still violent?