Thread: Timeline of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Series

Sign says Dairy 2021

Spoiler: Better quality

But there have to be reason to be named like that.
And with those time travels, l didn’t want to drop AU or PT theory.
Anyway at least this proves that was already proved ^^

Well, it's a dairy shop? As in a shop that sells products such as milk. Dairy =/= Diary.

As for time travel, if you travel to a parallel universe, you can't go back to your original universe. Ever. That is one possible mechanic of time travel.

The time traveler doesn't travel back in his original timeline, but an alternate one; his original timeline is preserved and the changes occur only in the alternate timeline. (Parallel universes/Alternate timelines)

At the end of the 10th Anniversary Movie, Yusei is seen returning back to his own time, where his companions welcome him back. Were the above statement true, they wouldn't greet Yusei like they did. Moreover, Paradox would not try altering history as the parallel universes would make it pointless. In other words, the YGO franchise does take place in the same universe.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Also, that Virtual Reality device, was that in the manga? Because it kind of reminds me of the Noa arc that way. (Granted, I have not seen that arc yet, so I will refrain from judging.)

There was no full-immersion virtual world in the manga. The Solid Vision System is just the technology that makes the Duel Disks work. In the manga, it's different from the Duel Boxes they used on the Duelist Kingdom island in that it makes volumetric images in free space. In Duelist Kingdom, the monsters were projected onto screens behind the players.

Kaiba uses what looks to be an early prototype for Solid Vision in the Death-T arc to make a hologram of himself appear floating in the room taunting Yugi.

Although clearly the Solid Vision System is becoming more complex. If Kaiba was able to make a holographic array large enough to materialize an entire Roman Collessium around them, it might be feasible to an entire holographic world (like the Star Trek holodeck). But that would still be different from what we see in the anime filler, because that was clearly a virtual world that your mind enters but not your body (like The Matrix).

Ahh, so the "Virtual Reality Device" was referring to the one shown in the Noa arc. That's what was confusing me, the name. Thanks, Russ.

Anyway, I haven't touched the project in a long time. :X But it appears that Jack had this fiasco with Dragan three years (?) ago according to Episode 123. That will have to be added.

Do we know of any other dates of recent events? The last one I can recall is Scar-Red Nova being revealed to have been around 10000 years ago.

Hah, I was one or two days short of a necropost. Ow.

In episode 111, there 3 days between the time Bommer send his e-mail to Jack and Jack coming for Scar Red Nova Dragon.

About episode 123, you're right according the subs.

This is simply my pure speculation since I am writing a fan fic and am currently pondering this topic.

I am thinking the time between GX and 5D's is around 20 - 25 years. Let's take Tetsu Ushio as the main factor here, since he's the same Ushio who played the "stab your hand for money" game with Yami Yugi. I am guessing Ushio must have been a senior in high school at the time since it says that he was the hall monitor (I think) and he made all the rules at school. So, let's say his age is like 17 or 18 considering the age of most high school seniors. If DM started in 1996 and ended in 1997, Ushio is like 19 or 20. Then GX ends in 2007, so Ushio is then about 29 or 30. Then if 5D's takes place 20 or 25 years later, Ushio is like 55 or 54. Considering his physical features in 5D's, I'd say he's in his middle ages.

So what do you all think?

The problem is that Zero Reverse happens 17 years before the present of 5D's, and according to Episode 57, the City was already quite developed by this point. Going by that calculation, the City would need to be developed into its modern self in 3 or 8 years. The latter sounds more reasonable. Though, with the discovery of Momentum, things may have gone faster.

As for Ushio being almost 60 despite his looks, remember that certain Age Tropes exist for a reason (Older Than They Look / Younger Than They Look), although when you consider his feelings for Mikage...

Here's something important to note:

When Jeager contacts Dragan, a date is given on the poster for when the match is supposed to take place.

Screenshot of this: http://a.imageshack.us/img820/9481/5dsdatefinally.jpg

According to the poster, this takes place on April 8th, on a Wednesday at 10am (gotta get those card games going on early lol). Now if you look up all possible dates of that happening, the years are 2015, 2020, 2026, 2037, 2043. The one that looks correct is 2026, and if that is taken into the equation, ZR would have taken place around 2010. This also means that current canon is taking place in 2029, since Dragan states the match happened three years ago. Finally Ushio would be around 47 years of age, which is quite plausible.

Excellent discovery, Starry.

2026 would be indeed plausible, but the problem is with how the city would get developed into such a modern city in about three years only (after GX ended in 2007). The city was shown to be quite developed in Episode 57 of 5D's. Even if the discovery of Momentum increased the speed of how fast the city advanced, it's still a bit odd to see all of that developed in a mere three years...

Also, the premise of 5D's is that it is supposed to take "many years after Yugi's adventure". While it is true that 5D's present date would be indeed "many years" after DM, but... yeah. The ~3 year gap just bugs me.

Although the other closest date is 2037, but that would make Ushio even older. ffff.

2015 and 2020 don't work, for obvious reasons.

Awesome Starry!

2026 can be possible. In thinking about it, a building can be built quickly nowadays for example. I saw several places changes very quickly in little time. And we saw mainly Momentum and the laboratory, not really Domino City itself completly.

Yeah, that is true. It's not like they must have bombarded the entire city to the ground and rebuild it. They could have merely improved on the buildings. (Except Kaiba Corporation, which... kinda blew up.)

I assumed the entire city went through a change because you can see the overhead view of it during Episode 57. Then again, YGO never really followed realism completely (e.g., Kaiba managing a company at the age of 17 and Kaiba Corp's technology compared to its time) so saying the city got rebuilt/improved in 3 years isn't too unreasonable. Not to mention there was quite a technology jump during GX as well (e.g., wormhole system).

In addition, it was said that the Momentum was quite risky to operate (especially during bad weather). Was that because of the Earthbound Gods, or just because the Momentum may have been in its early stages? (Or just the Zero Reverse itself released the Earthbound Gods?) If it's the latter, then 2026 could again make more sense, because the City went through a big technology jump in such a short time, with the Momentum Reactor being very new.

I guess I can roll with 2026, after all. It just seemed a bit odd at first, lol. Though, I'd like to see others' feedback on which date we should go with.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Yeah, that is true. It's not like they must have bombarded the entire city to the ground and rebuild it. They could have merely improved on the buildings. (Except Kaiba Corporation, which... kinda blew up.)

I assumed the entire city went through a change because you can see the overhead view of it during Episode 57. Then again, YGO never really followed realism completely (e.g., Kaiba managing a company at the age of 17 and Kaiba Corp's technology compared to its time) so saying the city got rebuilt/improved in 3 years isn't too unreasonable. Not to mention there was quite a technology jump during GX as well (e.g., wormhole system).

In addition, it was said that the Momentum was quite risky to operate (especially during bad weather). Was that because of the Earthbound Gods, or just because the Momentum may have been in its early stages? (Or just the Zero Reverse itself released the Earthbound Gods?) If it's the latter, then 2026 could again make more sense, because the City went through a big technology jump in such a short time, with the Momentum Reactor being very new.

I guess I can roll with 2026, after all. It just seemed a bit odd at first, lol. Though, I'd like to see others' feedback on which date we should go with.

I'm agree with 2026 but it can be indicates in italic.

It itsn't the Momemtum itself who provocates itself bad wheather? I assume Momentum has "awaken" Earthbound Gods: they never appeared again since Crimson Dragon and his servants locked them into the Earth and when the Momentum is released, it go on their geoglyphs.

2026 seems plausible, but what are the problems with the years 2037 or 2043? For me, I feel more comfortable with 2037. Since that means ZR occurred in 2020. And that gives around a decade for the city to advance and improve so vastly after GX which ended in 2007.

I feel I have to step in and share my two cents here.

2026 is not a reasonable or logical year at all, to place 5Ds in. No one can seriously accept or believe that a world clearly analogous to our own with the current technology would leap at least 5 decades in terms of technology and construction within the span of three years. Analyzing that critically does not lend that conclusion any credence.

While Starry's observation is indeed interesting and thorough, it flies in the face of all common sense and reason. And I'm extremely doubtful that the creators plotted through the entire Gregorian Calendar of the future to find an appropriate date, as a hidden reference to when the YGO 5Ds series takes place.

They are purposefully mum on when 5Ds takes place. There is no definitive answer, and taking the above reference of a date as fact of 5Ds timeline placement takes the entire scene out of context and perspective. You're looking for an answer where none was meant to exist, and putting it next to other entries where the answer is indeed there to serve as nod to continuity. It also just makes absolutely no sense.

I'd have to kind of agree with Mako here. Perhaps the timeline of when 5D's takes place is simply not important at all to the story, and so it's up to fan speculation.

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

I feel I have to step in and share my two cents here.

2026 is not a reasonable or logical year at all, to place 5Ds in. No one can seriously accept or believe that a world clearly analogous to our own with the current technology would leap at least 5 decades in terms of technology and construction within the span of three years. Analyzing that critically does not lend that conclusion any credence.

Analogous how? And again, this is a world where ALIENS AND MONSTERS are attacking your place city and citizens AXE for help. And has MAGIC which does not exist and creepy Cybermen husks threatening your every step.

On a more serious note, as I said, there's the other date, 2037, which would be way more plausible. The problem is with Ushio, he'd be an old fart with the older dates. Cyrogenic mystery man meat. a

While Starry's observation is indeed interesting and thorough, it flies in the face of all common sense and reason. And I'm extremely doubtful that the creators plotted through the entire Gregorian Calendar of the future to find an appropriate date, as a hidden reference to when the YGO 5Ds series takes place.

Dude, this is our writers. Who hide obscure references all over the series and fill the series with hidden symbolism. Who's saying they didn't plan this?

They are purposefully mum on when 5Ds takes place. There is no definitive answer, and taking the above reference of a date as fact of 5Ds timeline placement takes the entire scene out of context and perspective. You're looking for an answer where none was meant to exist, and putting it next to other entries where the answer is indeed there to serve as nod to continuity. It also just makes absolutely no sense.

Although I hate to admit it because I was totally joyed at this discovery, I do see where you are getting at and I do agree more or less.

We can still keep the manga's 20XX date. Also, we do keep approximate dates into consideration, ones figured out via guesswork.

On a more serious note, as I said, there's the other date, 2037, which would be way more plausible. The problem is with Ushio, he'd be an old fart with the older dates. Cyrogenic mystery man meat.

Yliaster. XD

Originally Posted by Lil_Yugi

Yliaster. XD

Or the Infinity wormholes? (Hey, they might play a role...)

Lawl, because Illiaster is the solution to everything!

Anyway, this is kind of tricky right now. Starry made the suggestion with the discovery. I leaned towards the date idea. So did Slayer. Allana voted for an approximate date. Mako said no.

So what is the consensus? Add, not add and keep the manga's 20XX date, add as approxmiate (italicized date) date? We need more feedback, I think...

Although, if anything, I agree with Mako that it is an interesting an plausible answer for the date, we lack additional evidence. GX had them crop up more than once, or at least references to dates. (e.g., Judai's New Year Dream Duel)

I'm going to go with 2037 for now. Who cares if Ushio is nearing his 60's? Old men sometimes hit on young women....right? XD

Originally Posted by Arynis

Analogous how? And again, this is a world where ALIENS AND MONSTERS are attacking your place city and citizens AXE for help. And has MAGIC which does not exist and creepy Cybermen husks threatening your every step.

All those supernatural occurrence in DM and GX, especially the manga, occur within the background of society. It's not something every day people would be privy to or knowledgable of. On the surface it appears as our world 1996/2000. They have the same technology, social institutions, forms, customs, and the like. The added fantasy elements of the series don't remove the context of the environment or it reflecting a similarity of our world.

The world of YGO 5Ds is almost completely different and unique due to it being so far flung into the future. It is not the result of a mere 3 years of change. And it it were we would've heard about the past and its transition a lot more frequently than we do.

On a more serious note, as I said, there's the other date, 2037, which would be way more plausible. The problem is with Ushio, he'd be an old fart with the older dates. Cyrogenic mystery man meat. a

Yes, I honestly believe that's a more likely solution and Ushio was cryogenically frozen or something.

Dude, this is our writers. Who hide obscure references all over the series and fill the series with hidden symbolism. Who's saying they didn't plan this?

Not everything is a vague or esoteric reference or piece of symbolism though. Sometimes things are meant to just be taken at face value. When we look at things for symbolic context, we run the risk of shaping the symbolism to support preconceived notions or theories without actually taking the context into consideration.

On a local, recent level. When LeArk pointed out the symbolism of Johan's ace monster name in the manga, Danus, he referenced the Greek mythological figure. But then Lil_Yugi pointed out that it could probably reference the butterfly genus of the same name. So....it all depends on context and intent.

Would the creators really go through this much trouble and opaqueness to give us the year of 5Ds, when before they had no trouble at all telling us the year and era of the previous YGO series? It just doesn't seem to match up with past behavior or logic.

I'm honestly thinking they're maybe saving the actual year of 5Ds for when its over as a big reveal or something. It seems like they're being purposefully vague about its era for a reason.

Although I hate to admit it because I was totally joyed at this discovery, I do see where you are getting at and I do agree more or less.

We can still keep the manga's 20XX date. Also, we do keep approximate dates into consideration, ones figured out via guesswork.

Yeah, it just doesn't quite gel, you know? It was a really smart and perceptive observation though. That was really cool, but I don't think the writesr realized that placing a date could still reveal a year if the viewer was savvy enough to figure it out. XD

I think 20XX is a good enough date for now, until more is conclusively established. Approximate dates are alright when its all we got.

I think 20XX is a good place holder. Having to correct the Wiki's timeline page in the future because of guesswork might destroy the credibility of it.

Hm well maybe 2037 would be possible if Ushio just had a lot of plastic surgery that's far better then ours ;3

But oh well, perhaps Word of God will be kind enough to reveal the dates at the end of the series like Mako said or an extra included in the movie DVD.

Originally Posted by XERO_Slayer

I'm going to go with 2037 for now. Who cares if Ushio is nearing his 60's? Old men sometimes hit on young women....right? XD

Grandpa What Massive Hotness You Have!

Originally Posted by Makoeyes987

All those supernatural occurrence in DM and GX, especially the manga, occur within the background of society. It's not something every day people would be privy to or knowledgable of. On the surface it appears as our world 1996/2000. They have the same technology, social institutions, forms, customs, and the like. The added fantasy elements of the series don't remove the context of the environment or it reflecting a similarity of our world.

The world of YGO 5Ds is almost completely different and unique due to it being so far flung into the future. It is not the result of a mere 3 years of change. And it it were we would've heard about the past and its transition a lot more frequently than we do.

Fair enough. Though, it could be MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMENTUM enhancing your BODY and SOUL! BU

Yes, I honestly believe that's a more likely solution and Ushio was cryogenically frozen or something.

Though, the question is... why Ushio? Maybe there's something they are hiding from us?

Not everything is a vague or esoteric reference or piece of symbolism though. Sometimes things are meant to just be taken at face value. When we look at things for symbolic context, we run the risk of shaping the symbolism to support preconceived notions or theories without actually taking the context into consideration.

On a local, recent level. When LeArk pointed out the symbolism of Johan's ace monster name in the manga, Danus, he referenced the Greek mythological figure. But then Lil_Yugi pointed out that it could probably reference the butterfly genus of the same name. So....it all depends on context and intent.

Would the creators really go through this much trouble and opaqueness to give us the year of 5Ds, when before they had no trouble at all telling us the year and era of the previous YGO series? It just doesn't seem to match up with past behavior or logic.

I'm honestly thinking they're maybe saving the actual year of 5Ds for when its over as a big reveal or something. It seems like they're being purposefully vague about its era for a reason.

Ah, I see. Though, everyone has a different take on symbolism, that's what makes it beautiful.

Yeah, I can't argue with that. But depending how you look at it, the poster could be either subtle or not subtle. It's not like the dates on Judai's paper were glaring right into our eyes, either.

A reveal could be interesting... a reveal Mother 3 style. Oh yeah.

Yeah, it just doesn't quite gel, you know? It was a really smart and perceptive observation though. That was really cool, but I don't think the writesr realized that placing a date could still reveal a year if the viewer was savvy enough to figure it out. XD

I think 20XX is a good enough date for now, until more is conclusively established. Approximate dates are alright when its all we got.

Hey, the same writers put the characters' names in Harald's book, written in Futhark runes. Upon making them out, they still made sense, even though no one may have bothered to touch that book. XD Except, well, me and Gin.

Originally Posted by Lil_Yugi

I think 20XX is a good place holder. Having to correct the Wiki's timeline page in the future because of guesswork might destroy the credibility of it.

That is a good point, however. I planned to spread this project upon deeming it good enough for spreading it (I don't think it's ready for that yet, despite the amount of content so far, but that could be just me and my standards), and destroying it would kind of suck. =/

Placing my votes for 20XX as well, then. Still, I'm wondering if this discovery could be still mentioned somewhere, at least just for reference purposes. Or leave that out, due to the confusion it could cause?

I guess I'll take 20XX and for my fan fic, I'll take 2037. If Word of God says otherwise, meh oh well...

Originally Posted by XERO_Slayer

I guess I'll take 20XX and for my fan fic, I'll take 2037. If Word of God says otherwise, meh oh well...

Don't sweat it. While people may expect certain aspects to be followed when fanfiction is involved (e.g., characterization), no one is going to murder you for putting that date in your story. And if people use fanfics to gain canon information... well...

Originally Posted by Arynis

Don't sweat it. While people may expect certain aspects to be followed when fanfiction is involved (e.g., characterization), no one is going to murder you for putting that date in your story. And if people use fanfics to gain canon information... well...

Fanfics for canon info? Uh - oh...

But yeah, 2037 seems like a good date for me.

I noticed the month and day of Jyonouchi's birth aren't on the timeline. The other characters aren't even listed. D=

According to the Janime Wiki itself:

Jyonouchi January 25th
Yugi June 4th
Anzu August 18th
April 19th
Kaiba October 25th

Yeah, that is because I overcomplicated it for myself with the year of birth issue. ^^; Basically, I think like this:

The Gospel of Truth was released during Battle City, which takes place in 1997 Autumn. Then I looked at the birthdates. Were they born before Autumn? Deduct their age from 1997, because they turned their listed age already. Born after Autumn? Deduct from 1996, because their listed age isn't the one which should be during 1997 (i.e., they haven't had their birthday in 1997 yet). What makes it even more troublesome is that Yugi and his gang don't even have their ages listed, just that they are in the second year of high-school. We know Jonouchi was 16 during that TV show event.

I think I got a brainfart at one point and told myself I'd deal with it later. Later being, well... yeah. XD Although I don't know if my logic above makes sense either.

I kind of want to re-do everyone else's birthdays based on the same logic. (Except Pegasus, whose age is listed as 24 and his dialogue pretty much pins his year of birth to 1972. And he died in 1997 Spring, during Duelist Kingdom, so he did not have the opportunity to turn 25... except in the anime.)

The Millenium Items are created 15 years before Atem's death. At this time, Atem was already born but we don't know If he has 1 year or not. Knowing Yugi and co. has 16 years old, I would say yes.

Millenium Arc occurs during about 1 week:

3 days after Bakura attacks Atem and the priest in his palace, Atem's father is buried.
When Mahado trapped Bakura in the tomb, he say to his soldiers If his picture appears on the tablet at the 3rd rising sun, the enters of the tomb must be closed definitively to trap Bakura insde it.

Ever since the time GX was released, I've heard that it's supposedly set 10 years after DM. Where was this information actually stated? While it's possible, I've never seen the source cited.

Thanks for that information, Allana!

Me neither, actually. I have seen it stated on Wikipedia and the Wikia, but I haven't seen an actual source either. Isn't it one of those "word by mouth" things that eventually stuck and became accepted among fans? The GX section of Janime (not the Wiki, the main site) doesn't seem to make any mentions of it, so...

Also, I've been meaning to say this. I have been behind with updating the Wiki page, but that does not mean others cannot do so without me around. Creating an account is simple, and account creation is not blocked anymore (it used to be due to bot invasions, but it's been changed to ReCaptcha protection). Editing the page and format it properly may be trickier, but I can write up a guide on how to do so.

If there are any obvious dates in the show (such as the statement about Zero Reverse happening 17 years ago), they can be added with no problem. If we have approximate information on an event's occurrence, mark the entire line with italics. If the event in question is more ambiguous and/or problematic, ask away and we'll figure it out. Also, read the Guidelines section when in doubt. If we have a source on the event's statement (i.e., in which episode event X's date was mentioned), add it to the References section at the bottom. Unfortunately, we do not have a citation system implemented for the time being for which I have been waiting since late February, so this is the most we can do.

5D's is relatively "easy", as there are no specific years (no, "Dairy 2021" is not a year, or at least not confirmed as one), and Yeager's poster regarding Dragan's and Jack's match was decided to be not taken into consideration by the consensus.

That's pretty much it, I only wanted to let people know the page editing isn't limited to me, even if I organized the project in the first place. After all, this isn't a one-man project, so don't be afraid to contribute. ^^ Or if you want to, post your intended change here first so we can see if it passes or not. I had to revert the entire page not too long ago because someone rewrote the whole DM section based on Viz's "Duel Monsters was made in the mid-90s" line, but that "mistranslation" has been noted on the Wiki page.

Originally Posted by Arynis

Me neither, actually. I have seen it stated on Wikipedia and the Wikia, but I haven't seen an actual source either. Isn't it one of those "word by mouth" things that eventually stuck and became accepted among fans? The GX section of Janime (not the Wiki, the main site) doesn't seem to make any mentions of it, so...

That's what I was thinking. It seems to have been accepted as fact but I'm a little concerned that it's just something from the dub or a preliminary GX idea or maybe even completely made up. It was certainly around before DD was announced to have been the best in the Pro League for ten years.

Originally Posted by Ryusaki

Ever since the time GX was released, I've heard that it's supposedly set 10 years after DM. Where was this information actually stated? While it's possible, I've never seen the source cited.

If my memories are correct, I remenber I had heard the 10 years thing in Season 2 dub version. I don't remember what episode It is. I don't know about original, I saw just some ep�sodes and Season 4 subbed. I remember of these 10 years because It was the only date clearly stated I knew at this time. After, I discovered the timeline and the note about episode 156.

Originally Posted by Allana

If my memories are correct, I remenber I had heard the 10 years thing in Season 2 dub version. I don't remember what episode It is. I don't know about original, I saw just some ep�sodes and Season 4 subbed. I remember of these 10 years because It was the only date clearly stated I knew at this time. After, I discovered the timeline and the note about episode 156.

I can't remember the date being mentioned in the dub (the most I can remember is "Sartorius" telling Kaiba that the years have been kind to him as he looks exactly the same). I always assumed that the 10 years thing came from the promoting in Weekly Jump before the series started (couldn't confirm as GX had already started when I discovered Yugioh so missed out on all the hype). The bootleg GX DVDs from Hong Kong definitely say it has been 10 years since Yugi was the the number one duelist but then they obviously can't be taken as gospel (since they can't even get people's names right most of the time!)

Originally Posted by Heather

I can't remember the date being mentioned in the dub (the most I can remember is "Sartorius" telling Kaiba that the years have been kind to him as he looks exactly the same). I always assumed that the 10 years thing came from the promoting in Weekly Jump before the series started (couldn't confirm as GX had already started when I discovered Yugioh so missed out on all the hype). The bootleg GX DVDs from Hong Kong definitely say it has been 10 years since Yugi was the the number one duelist but then they obviously can't be taken as gospel (since they can't even get people's names right most of the time!)

This mention had been erased in French. Basically, Saiou say to Kaiba he is a person very direct and he prefers this when he talk about buisness.... I'm sure I heard the 10 years in the dub. But this mention could be added specifically for my version like they changed Saiou's dialogue when It was different in English.

It has come to my attention that it has been said that Yeager made mentions of the date of the finals, said date being 2021 November.

However, I rechecked Episode 131, And Yeager makes no mentions of the date of the finals at all. He merely brings presents to Team 5D's and then spends the rest of the episode freaking out over the Ark Cradle nuking Neo Domino City. Before the finale starts, he just tells Ushio he cannot cancel the match, and that he's putting his faith in Team 5D's.

Not to mention that the date, as it has been repeated before, would not make sense at all. Both the movie and the Animation Book confirm that the three series take place in the same universe. Which would bring us to 2004 - which is the beginning of GX, meaning the Zero Reverse could not have happened at all. The City was nowhere near as developed as depicted in 5D's, either. Making 2021 canon would flat out contradict these statements.

The closest thing I recall with Yeager mentioning dates was the date of the Dragan vs Jack match, which could be used to determine the year, but 1) it's not 2021 2) consensus is that we not take that date canonically due to complications (such as Ushio) and stick with the manga's 20XX date.

However, if Yeager did indeed mention something, I'd like concrete proof, specifically pointing at where Yeager made mentions of the aforementioned date.

Originally Posted by J_BYYX

Sign says Dairy 2021

Spoiler: Better quality

If that's true (which probably isn't by reading the posts above), than this would possibly mean that Yugi is in his early 40's and is definitely alive. Breh.....O_o

I think I remember what it was, he was holding a communicator that had the date on it. When contacting Dragon.

Originally Posted by Cohen

I think I remember what it was, he was holding a communicator that had the date on it. When contacting Dragon.

Again, Cohen. Read Starry's post. This has already been addressed in the posts above yours. The date isn't "2021."

Originally Posted by Starry

Here's something important to note:

When Jeager contacts Dragan, a date is given on the poster for when the match is supposed to take place.

Screenshot of this: http://a.imageshack.us/img820/9481/5dsdatefinally.jpg

According to the poster, this takes place on April 8th, on a Wednesday at 10am (gotta get those card games going on early lol). Now if you look up all possible dates of that happening, the years are 2015, 2020, 2026, 2037, 2043. The one that looks correct is 2026, and if that is taken into the equation, ZR would have taken place around 2010. This also means that current canon is taking place in 2029, since Dragan states the match happened three years ago. Finally Ushio would be around 47 years of age, which is quite plausible.

Here's something important to note:

When Jeager contacts Dragan, a date is given on the poster for when the match is supposed to take place.

Screenshot of this: http://a.imageshack.us/img820/9481/5dsdatefinally.jpg

According to the poster, this takes place on April 8th, on a Wednesday at 10am (gotta get those card games going on early lol). Now if you look up all possible dates of that happening, the years are 2015, 2020, 2026, 2037, 2043. The one that looks correct is 2026, and if that is taken into the equation, ZR would have taken place around 2010. This also means that current canon is taking place in 2029, since Dragan states the match happened three years ago. Finally Ushio would be around 47 years of age, which is quite plausible.

If that current canon is taking place in 2029, then Yugi would be 50-years-old. Is it possible for him to be older than Ushio? Just asking, cuz I didn't see his birth-date in the Timeline list on Wiki.

I assumed that Ushio is at least as old as Yugi, but possibly older. Yugi's year of birth wasn't listed because I found it complicated (at least for myself) to exactly pin down the years for most of the characters.

And no, we take 2029 as plausible, not canon, for the time being. At least as per consensus. We'll see if 5D's throws anything else at us in the upcoming episodes. I suppose we'll re-discuss the issue when 5D's ends, or something.

Alright then, 2029 is a pretty good match

Originally Posted by Arynis

I assumed that Ushio is at least as old as Yugi, but possibly older. Yugi's year of birth wasn't listed because I found it complicated (at least for myself) to exactly pin down the years for most of the characters.

And no, we take 2029 as plausible, not canon, for the time being. At least as per consensus. We'll see if 5D's throws anything else at us in the upcoming episodes. I suppose we'll re-discuss the issue when 5D's ends, or something.

Well, just because Yugi's year of birth was listed (1979) and Ushio's wasn't - that's why I asked. It just seemed me wrong for Ushio being older than Yugi.
But anyway. Hope at least till the end of 5D'S to understand what's the time difference between the 2 anime series. The curiosity begins to kill me. xD

We'll see. Or the writers will decide to keep things silent in the end, in which case we're left with the manga's 20XX date.

Also, I'd just like to add that the Wiki page of the timeline will not be updated anymore. Every content from the Wiki will be moved to dev.janime.eu, after which the Wiki will be shut down. The timeline, as it is, will be found on the main site after that (once I figure out an useable way to code the layout for it, ow). However, this doesn't mean the discussion will cease, the timeline can be still discussed over here and I'll make edits to it accordingly.

With 5D's bringing in history rewriting and time travel hijinks, the timeline may --possibly will-- have to be recategorized and have new parts written. Something like how Chrono Trigger has chronology for the normal timeline where Lavos destroys the world and the changed timeline where Lavos is defeated. Personally, I'm holding back on this part of the timeline building until we have every detail from the anime, considering it's going to spill the beans of the main story in the upcoming months.

After the series concludes (providing 5D's does finish in April-ish), I'd like to sort out how exactly the timeline mechanics work in 5D's. Are multiple timelines involved? Does the timeline rewrite itself? (Is the timeline singular?) After that, we could get down to putting together the entire thing.

We don't know anything about the upcoming anime yet, whether it will continue in the same timeline or if it will start things anew. But for now, I would like to focus on DM/GX/5D's and fill out the timeline for them, so we can complete this project and give ourselves a pat on the back.

While I have heard of claims that sorting out a timeline is impossible with Illiaster rewriting history so much... if Doctor Who can have a timeline put together for it (especially the Series 5 finale, although I still need to catch up with the previous seasons), so can 5D's. Let's do this, I say!

Posting here as well to note. The Official YGO Website specifies that GX takes place 10 years in the future.

Yu-Gi-Oh! GX story

Ten years in the future on a far away island, an elite duelling high school prepares promising young students for a life of duels and danger. Duel Academy is no ordinary school, but an even more extraordinary person is about to sweep through the doors and change everything...

However, please note that the website is operated by 4Kids, and we have evidence from the manga for DM taking place in 1996, while we know that GX started in 2004 (going by the date from Episode 156). This contradicts the information they have on their site. However, I was told that 4Kids is probably just rounding up from 7 years to 10 years, since it's easier and less specific.

Thoughts?

It's always way easier to round numbers and amounts. Besides, the kids won't pay much attention if GX takes place 7 or 10 years after DM. xD So I wouldn't entirely trust the written in 4KIDS's timeline version. Let's stick to what the manga and the original japanese episodes are telling us......but still keep this info also in mind.....at least for now.

Well, one attends high school for three years in Japan, each academic school year beginning in April. Yugi and company are first year students in Shadow Games, and second year students during the events of DM. At the end of DM, Yugi and company would be ending their second year and beginning their third. So the events of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! take place over the span of two years or so. GX begins at the start of Judai's first year, and ends when he graduates, making the events of GX happen within the course of three years. If DM ended in 1997/1998, and GX began in April of 2004, it concluded in 2007. It is quite possible that Momentum was developed sometime during the second half of GX (after the Hikari no Kessha).


It's funny. If we just knew Ushio's age in 5D's, our problem would be solved for the most part.