Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[Makoeyes987]

So basically he's tragically stuck in a loop until the protagonists come and stop him, his death meaning peace for him, at last.

Heh, even though so little was revealed from his backstory, a lot of things could be figured out from the implications. I swear, just this made Paradox instantly in my top favorite list, with his short 49 minutes of screentime and role in the franchise.

By the way Makoeyes, you should write more analyses! Start a blog or something and join the club! XD

Pretty much. That's right.

And yeah..I think Paradox has won the spot of "Favorite YGO villain not originally in the YGO manga" award, in my heart. XD He's just too awesome as a villain, and certainly lived up to being a dangerous antagonist, while also causing you to feel for him at the same time.

LOL, I suppose I should. I just leave post my theories and stuff in threads like these when the occasion arises. XD

Are any of these downloads good? Anyone know?

http://freshwap.net/finder/Yu+Gi+Oh+...Transcend.html

If you're stupid enough to try any of those downloads on that site, you deserve whatever trojan, virus, or strain of e-AIDS you get. FFS, be patient, and quit spamming the same question.

[remaner]

And you're right with the whole killing thing - it would indeed cause one humongous timeline destruction. But I kept going with the more extreme and traditional effect of paradoxes all along, that it would instantly result in the destruction of reality.

So basically he's tragically stuck in a loop until the protagonists come and stop him, his death meaning peace for him, at last.

In this case the destruction of Paradox would mean the destruction of the reality he comes from. Basically, to destroy him might mean also the destruction of the ruined future he comes from. And then Paradox would really be a glitch that Our Great Heroes must fix...

Paradox IS a temporal glitch. Literally.

So much badassness for nothing.

[lollydove]

Are any of these downloads good? Anyone know?

http://freshwap.net/finder/Yu+Gi+Oh+...Transcend.html

I'm not sure but don't do it just yet as many of those are fakes. I've got a friend keeping an eye on this premium ******* program thing he has anyway so he'll call me as soon as he's found it. But remember, it may take a while, so don't go all "gosrhgohgoiarhiogoiargoiraoigioahorahtoievnra ion" just yet(even though I can't wait to see the movie too).

Mmm, Paradox is just "that" kind of villian. The kind of villian where you have to be bad to be good.
I can't wait to see the movie and more of Paradox's and Yugi's mesmerising haaaaaaiiiiiirrrr <3

[Kai Yamato]

As I expected, the movie is overhyped just like every other movies. =/

Maybe am i wrong but it looks like Yugi is a little demeans while Judai save both Yusei and Yugi's ass with his traps and Yusei give to Yugi the chance to add Dark Magician to his hand. Yeah I know teamwork and stuff but at the end Yugi is quite dependent don't you think? and that's funny if Yusei tells that he wants duel Yugi one day (Judai is forgotten) after the final showdown against the big vilain Paradox.

Now why do I have a feeling of how that will happen....

*Yugi is walking around until Yusei appears from the future by the Crimson Dragon's powers*
Yugi: Again?
Yusei: Yeah... The writers are running out of ideas.
Yugi: I agree.
Yusei: So, are we gonna duel? Hopefully it won't end like what you did to the other guy.
*Later*
Yusei: Sonava- *Gets punched by Obelisk*
Yugi: And another protagonist beaten by me. I wonder if this will be a trend. o.o;

[Makoeyes987]

In this case the destruction of Paradox would mean the destruction of the reality he comes from. Basically, to destroy him might mean also the destruction of the ruined future he comes from. And then Paradox would really be a glitch that Our Great Heroes must fix...

Paradox IS a temporal glitch. Literally.

So much badassness for nothing.

Well destroying Paradox, stops the temporal paradox. Because if he's no longer trying to destroy the past with Duel Monsters, creating the ruined future he comes from, then the ruined future won't happen. The whole intervention of the 3 Protagonists is the outside "fix" that stabilizes the timeline that allows the future to remain stable. It fixes the skip in the timline record.

I wouldn't say he was for nothing, since he made for an awesome antagonist.

[remaner]

Well destroying Paradox, stops the temporal paradox. Because if he's no longer trying to destroy the past with Duel Monsters, creating the ruined future he comes from, then the ruined future won't happen. The whole intervention of the 3 Protagonists is the outside "fix" that stabilizes the timeline that allows the future to remain stable. It fixes the skip in the timline record.

I wouldn't say he was for nothing, since he made for an awesome antagonist.

He created a new future trying to avoid it. So much for Plot Induced Headache...

[Sephirex]

If you're stupid enough to try any of those downloads on that site, you deserve whatever trojan, virus, or strain of e-AIDS you get. FFS, be patient, and quit spamming the same question.

Geez aren't you uptight. I just asked out of curiousity, I could already see the possibility of viruses which is why I haven't tried to download it.

SOMEONE needs to take some chill pills.

[chrisedomaster]

Hey guys.. Anyone has information about a Art Book of the Movie? or that a DVD release to the movie? Please answer ><

[Makoeyes987]

Someone needs to read the rules and quit spamming and repeatedly asking for downloads and crap.

He created a new future trying to avoid it. So much for Plot Induced Headache...

That doesn't create a paradox, explain how the future itself was destroyed, or why Paradox's meddling would lead to the destruction of the timeline in the first place.

[remaner]

That doesn't create a paradox, explain how the future itself was destroyed, or why Paradox's meddling would lead to the destruction of the timeline in the first place.

This remains the plothole we hope someone will explain us about...

[Arynis]

That doesn't create a paradox, explain how the future itself was destroyed, or why Paradox's meddling would lead to the destruction of the timeline in the first place.

But then the Fridge Logic kicked in - if Paradox was a normal person and everything, what caused him to fall into the paradox loop in the first place? Perhaps Duel Monsters was truly responsible for humanity's downfall, and that's when Paradox decided to travel back in time, his involvement making things worse as you said.

Unless he was born out from a hypothetical paradox, which would explain why he names himself Paradox. He's a time paradox given form and sentience! Which would make him one of the most amazing beings in the series.

[Makoeyes987]

But then the Fridge Logic kicked in - if Paradox was a normal person and everything, what caused him to fall into the paradox loop in the first place? Perhaps Duel Monsters was truly responsible for humanity's downfall, and that's when Paradox decided to travel back in time, his involvement making things worse as you said.

Unless he was born out from a hypothetical paradox, which would explain why he names himself Paradox. He's a time paradox given form and sentience! Which would make him one of the most amazing beings in the series.

The fact time travel was discovered or created in the first place, was the cause of the paradoxical loop and the world's destruction in the first place. Because that was what allowed Paradox to destroy his own future. It's one of the basic arguments of why time travel isn't possible and why it should never be possible. If time travel existed, we would've either seen it, or have been influenced by its discordance. The whole YGO movie essentially avoids the whole causality loop of time travel eventually causing reality to spin itself into oblivion, by working the heroes into a role of simultaneously working outside of the timeline (while in it), to fix it. The only reason Duel Monsters destroyed the future, is because time travel was somehow created.

I don't think Paradox is a time paradox given form..because he seems to be just a tragic victim of the very paradox he's trying to avoid. I think he's a scientist or whatever who tried to fix things but ended up being the cause. Although one does have to wonder why his name is "Paradox." Perhaps its an ironic, self-depreciating title he gives himself to hide his identity so that when he does "fix" things, no one knows who he is....which is ironic, since he'd be trying to protect the timeline from being unnecessarily influenced, while he's destroying it. XD

After all, he's going around, wearing a mask.

[Makoeyes987]

This remains the plothole we hope someone will explain us about...

There is no plothole if you accept that the timeline is a continual stream of events, and not a separation of conflicting timelines or separate, alternate futures or realities. If that were the case, then the eras where the protagonists come from wouldn't be threatened with destruction and they wouldn't have to race against the clock to stop Paradox from realizing his plans.

[Arynis]

The fact time travel was discovered or created in the first place, was the cause of the paradoxical loop and the world's destruction in the first place. Because that was what allowed Paradox to destroy his own future. It's one of the basic arguments of why time travel isn't possible and why it should never be possible. If time travel existed, we would've either seen it, or have been influenced by its discordance. The whole YGO movie essentially avoids the whole causality loop of time travel eventually causing reality to spin itself into oblivion, by working the heroes into a role of simultaneously working outside of the timeline (while in it), to fix it. The only reason Duel Monsters destroyed the future, is because time travel was somehow created.

I don't think Paradox is a time paradox given form..because he seems to be just a tragic victim of the very paradox he's trying to avoid. I think he's a scientist or whatever who tried to fix things but ended up being the cause. Although one does have to wonder why his name is "Paradox." Perhaps its an ironic, self-depreciating title he gives himself to hide his identity so that when he does "fix" things, no one knows who he is....which is ironic, since he'd be trying to protect the timeline from being unnecessarily influenced, while he's destroying it. XD

After all, he's going around, wearing a mask.

But if time travel was the cause of the trouble, wouldn't he go and destroy time travel itself? Why is he targeting Pegasus, why is he targeting Duel Monsters? (Apart from the fact that the universe may hate Pegasus. XD; )

Yeah, that was more of a crack guess. He doesn't seem too old (in his twenties perhaps?), I like to think of him as an university student studying Physics and geeking out with Duel Monsters as an afternoon hobby and tending his pet Cthulhu. Then the world went bad, and used his knowledge to invent time travel.

Regarding the name, I said once before he may have picked it up because he identifies with his goal so much.

[Makoeyes987]

But if time travel was the cause of the trouble, wouldn't he go and destroy time travel itself? Why is he targeting Pegasus, why is he targeting Duel Monsters? (Apart from the fact that the universe may hate Pegasus. XD; )

Yeah, that was more of a crack guess. He doesn't seem too old (in his twenties perhaps?), I like to think of him as an university student studying Physics and geeking out with Duel Monsters as an afternoon hobby and tending his pet Cthulhu. Then the world went bad, and used his knowledge to invent time travel.

Regarding the name, I said once before he may have picked it up because he identifies with his goal so much.

Because again, he doesn't know he's the cause of the paradox, which resulted from him traveling time. XD

I think he either invented or utilized time travel, and fashioned it to a D-Wheel, ala "Back to the Future." XD

And he assumed the name "paradox" because if he failed, in his mind, the worst that could happen would be a paradox, and he'd avoid that. The only logical reason he'd wear a mask and not use his real name would be so he wouldn't unnecessarily influence time itself. He had to have felt he would succeed in his goals and save his time.

[Isaac2]

Someone needs to read the rules and quit spamming and repeatedly asking for downloads and crap.

Rules is reasonable, but he only asked twice. Not really spamming when one was asking about if any exist, and the other for confirmation of one.

[Arynis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmCgtpuk3aU&feature=fvsr

More stage greeting stuff! Tamura is so awesome. And now it's KENN's turn to fail, he held up the wrong hand when imitating holding a card, lol. XD

[blue knight wm]

Any one have any clear screen shots of Neos Knight? Even the images from when he was shown in that reveal thing during 5ds? I personally say the best Sins are Cyber End and Stardust since you don't need any extra monster's in your deck. Though Blue Eyes is pretty good to. Anyone know the effects of the Sin Synchro or the 'Truth Dragon' are?

[Digitalgirl]

And yeah..I think Paradox has won the spot of "Favorite YGO villain not originally in the YGO manga" award, in my heart. XD He's just too awesome as a villain, and certainly lived up to being a dangerous antagonist, while also causing you to feel for him at the same time.

How about favorite YGO villain not in previous YGO manga/anime/card?

Now why do I have a feeling of how that will happen....

*Yugi is walking around until Yusei appears from the future by the Crimson Dragon's powers*
Yugi: Again?
Yusei: Yeah... The writers are running out of ideas.
Yugi: I agree.
Yusei: So, are we gonna duel? Hopefully it won't end like what you did to the other guy.
*Later*
Yusei: Sonava- *Gets punched by Obelisk*
Yugi: And another protagonist beaten by me. I wonder if this will be a trend. o.o;

I laughed at this.

Also, Makoeyes987's summary really helped me understand Paradox

[Kaiba222]

Any one have any clear screen shots of Neos Knight? Even the images from when he was shown in that reveal thing during 5ds?

To help you out, Here is a link of Neos Knight from 5Ds Reveal Thing: Here

-KB222

[blue knight wm]

To help you out, Here is a link of Neos Knight from 5Ds Reveal Thing: Here

-KB222

Thank you very much.

[Ragna]

So Yugi's the first one to damage Paradox, it seems. Hehehe

Little upset that Yugi didn't get a new monster, but it's whatever.

[HalHornCorSec]

So Yugi's the first one to damage Paradox, it seems. Hehehe

Because he's just that darn good.

Little upset that Yugi didn't get a new monster, but it's whatever.

In all honesty, he didn't need new monsters if they were going back in time to find Yugi and if the duel lasted a whole, what, seven turns? Besides, Yugi was there just to use his three most easily recognized monsters and help the good guys set up for their big win. The fact that he used a bunch of new Spell Cards, though, is worthy of note and I honestly hope a few of them get the Buster Mode treatment and are released in the OCG and TCG as part of a booster set rather than in a promotional set.

[MorningMoon]

So Yugi's the first one to damage Paradox, it seems. Hehehe

Little upset that Yugi didn't get a new monster, but it's whatever.

But it was Judai who destroyed the SIN monsters first, two of them in one go even.

[Makoeyes987]

So? And what does that mean? Destroying monsters isn't the same as actually drawing first blood in a duel.

[Allana]

The fact time travel was discovered or created in the first place, was the cause of the paradoxical loop and the world's destruction in the first place. Because that was what allowed Paradox to destroy his own future. It's one of the basic arguments of why time travel isn't possible and why it should never be possible. If time travel existed, we would've either seen it, or have been influenced by its discordance. The whole YGO movie essentially avoids the whole causality loop of time travel eventually causing reality to spin itself into oblivion, by working the heroes into a role of simultaneously working outside of the timeline (while in it), to fix it. The only reason Duel Monsters destroyed the future, is because time travel was somehow created.

I don't think Paradox is a time paradox given form..because he seems to be just a tragic victim of the very paradox he's trying to avoid. I think he's a scientist or whatever who tried to fix things but ended up being the cause. Although one does have to wonder why his name is "Paradox." Perhaps its an ironic, self-depreciating title he gives himself to hide his identity so that when he does "fix" things, no one knows who he is....which is ironic, since he'd be trying to protect the timeline from being unnecessarily influenced, while he's destroying it. XD

After all, he's going around, wearing a mask.

You think that the future is destroyed because time travelling exists ? I'm not agree: I think the future is destroyed independently of time travelling.

Paradox, a scientist ? I don't imagine him like a scientist. Rather like a duelist, someone who is also a very good mecanician. He is so powerful in duel. And his Sin archetype must be get from somewhere: It's why I imagine him a traveler around the world,

I'm agree with you, Paradox is a victim in this story. I would even add he is victim of the incomprehension of Yusei, Judai and Yugi.

But if time travel was the cause of the trouble, wouldn't he go and destroy time travel itself? Why is he targeting Pegasus, why is he targeting Duel Monsters? (Apart from the fact that the universe may hate Pegasus. XD; )

Yeah, that was more of a crack guess. He doesn't seem too old (in his twenties perhaps?), I like to think of him as an university student studying Physics and geeking out with Duel Monsters as an afternoon hobby and tending his pet Cthulhu. Then the world went bad, and used his knowledge to invent time travel.

Regarding the name, I said once before he may have picked it up because he identifies with his goal so much.

I'm agree with your questions, Arynis. It's THE problem of the movie.

I imagine Paradox like a duelist who had traveled around the world. Not like a scientist. I imagine he had discovered Sin archetype or time trveling method during his travels. I imagine Paradox like Pegasus in Egypt: he had discovered Duel Monsters and Milenium Eye during his travel. According his apparence, Paradox is young. I give him something like 25-26 years old maximum.

Because again, he doesn't know he's the cause of the paradox, which resulted from him traveling time. XD

I think he either invented or utilized time travel, and fashioned it to a D-Wheel, ala "Back to the Future." XD

And he assumed the name "paradox" because if he failed, in his mind, the worst that could happen would be a paradox, and he'd avoid that. The only logical reason he'd wear a mask and not use his real name would be so he wouldn't unnecessarily influence time itself. He had to have felt he would succeed in his goals and save his time.

Yes, It's very possible. Even probable. I'm agree with you.

The strange lyrics in Makemagic hasn't meanning in the movie finally ?

[Makoeyes987]

You think that the future is destroyed because time travelling exists ? I'm not agree: I think the future is destroyed independently of time travelling.

If Paradox is the paradoxical cause of the future's destruction, then if time travel itself were never possible, Paradox would never have even been capable of becoming a threat in the first place.

Paradox, a scientist ? I don't imagine him like a scientist. Rather like a duelist, someone who is also a very good mecanician. He is so powerful in duel. And his Sin archetype must be get from somewhere: It's why I imagine him a traveler around the world,

Well he can be a scientist and a powerful duelist. It would explain how he's capable of traveling time in the first place. And doesn't he call his actions all part of his grand experiment?

[Allana]

If Paradox is the paradoxical cause of the future's destruction, then if time travel itself were never possible, Paradox would never have even been capable of becoming a threat in the first place.

It's true Paradox is destroying himself when he decides to destroys the future. Completly. What is it in this future where the Duel Monsters doesn't exist ? What is his destiny ? Not a duelist, It's certain.

If Duel Monsters hadn't destroyed the world, Paradox would have never have need to use the time traveling and come back in the past. So, I isn't the ability to time travel who destroys the future, It's Duel Monsters himself.

Well he can be a scientist and a powerful duelist. It would explain how he's capable of traveling time in the first place. And doesn't he call his actions all part of his grand experiment?

Yes, It's true, It is the only logical explanation.

But I don't like explanation. I can't imagine Paradox like a scientist. It's too similar at Professor Fudo. I don't know why, I can't really explain it with good reasons. But I can't imagine Paradox like a scientist.

[Arynis]

It's true Paradox is destroying himself when he decides to destroys the future. Completly. What is it in this future where the Duel Monsters doesn't exist ? What is his destiny ? Not a duelist, It's certain.

If Duel Monsters hadn't destroyed the world, Paradox would have never have need to use the time traveling and come back in the past. So, I isn't the ability to time travel who destroys the future, It's Duel Monsters himself.

But I don't like explanation. I can't imagine Paradox like a scientist. It's too similar at Professor Fudo. I don't know why, I can't really explain it with good reasons. But I can't imagine Paradox like a scientist.

Hmm, but Duel Monsters would still exist in Paradox's future. It existed when the world got destroyed, prompting Paradox to travel back in time. When Paradox killed Pegasus, he killed the one who has already created Duel Monsters, So even if the future was heavily altered after his death, the game would still exist. And Paradox still possesses his deck.

Regarding the Sin Monsters, he can summon them only if he has the original monsters and a Field Spell on the field (Sin World in this case). So in a sense, he's transforming the original monsters into the Sin Monsters, kind of like how Pegasus turned regular monsters into Toon Monsters in Duelist Kingdom. I don't think he just found them.

As I said earlier, the monsters he had belonged to powerful duelists (eg. Kaiba) or they were powerful by default (Rainbow Dragon). That could have been a reason to seek them out.

But where do Paradox's Sin Monsters come from? They are the remnants of the force which destroyed the world, the cards filled with the darkness and sin of the humans. Paradox is using the very thing that destroyed his future - Duel Monsters, and cards filled with the darkness of humans. The monster cards of Paradox are dyed black. There's a reason they must be dyed black, and that's why. The cards represent their owners, so perhaps those people ended up perishing in the shadow of their cards. Perhaps Paradox was stronger, or he didn't give in yet, but he eventually did - he fused with Sin Truth Dragon, he eventually got engulfed in his own sorrow and grief, and his determination to end it all. He and the card became one, and the protagonists destroying him caused him to disappear. Sin Truth Dragon could represent Paradox's true self - his suffering caused him to be a human no longer. His soul dyed his cards further, until he and the card became one. He became one with the thing he meant to destroy. (AKA You Are The Demons)

But still, if the future wasn't destroyed by Duel Monsters, Paradox would have had no need to to invent time travel. Something had to trigger the invention of time travel, and if there was no catalyst, there would be no time travel at all. Yes, time travel is impossible because of the complications it would bring forth. But Paradox claimed Duel Monsters ruined his future. It's not impossible, we have witnessed Duel Monsters causing a mess several times in the franchise. Even if it didn't take the Doma or the GX route, powerful cards could have been still made (eg. new "God" Cards) which caused the destruction of the world. Or humanity's sins made the cards grow powerful, spinning out of control and causing destruction.

It could be possible we're missing something, we're going by summaries here, after all. We'd need to see the full work, complete with dialogue and the actual scenes in order to make a judgment. Until then, we might as well be grasping at straws and not know it.

For example, we don't know what could be behind Paradox fusing with Sin Truth Dragon, only that he fuses. I believe one of the movie previews (FUJIWARA's broadcast, I think) had dialogue with Paradox saying he's experimenting with history, something omitted from the summaries. See what I mean?

And Allana, regarding the lyrics (interpretations written in the brackets):

Won't say what I got to say, lucy ku ku lucy
Want to change, but can't change, munassy muna muna nassy [Paradox wanting to save his future, but he is unable to do so himself]

C'mon, be brave, hold on to hope and toss away the past [Possibly Paradox encouraging himself to press himself on after the future's destruction and destroy the past?]
Take each others' hands, cheer each other on; don't you want to
control the light to your will? [Maybe the protagonists cheering at each other they can save the world? Although the light thing + Judai = lawl.]

An uneasy night sure is lonely, savissy sasa vissy
You won't be the same, once I make you into my magic mike.

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

Can't be the me I want to be, nassy ka ka nassy [Paradox not being able to live in a good future, and instead is suffering in the bad one]
Can't stop the negative thoughts, negatty ga ga ga [He carries the grief on his shoulders]

Are you giving up on what you believe?
You can be strong, once I make you into my magic mike. [Paradox fusing with Sin Truth Dragon in order to go all out on the protagonists / Protagonists (or just Yusei) giving up on being able to save the future]

With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

pri hani fei pri hani fei oh oh x5

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
and I want to take you in my arms.
With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

I left out the chorus because... yeah.

As for Dr. Fudo, we don't really know what he was like. Paradox sounds a lot crazier than him, anyhow.

Forgot to add, but this is from 2chan:

821 ：名無シネマさん：2010/01/25(月) 14:46:00 ID:nhQLipS2
ワーナー
1 . オーシャンズ
2 . アバター
3 . 10th アニバーサリー 劇場版 遊☆戯☆王 ～超融合！時空を越えた絆～
4 . サロゲート
5 . Dr.パルナサスの鏡

The movie holds the third place in the box office now! Go go protags, go go Paradox~

[Allana]

Hmm, but Duel Monsters would still exist in Paradox's future. It existed when the world got destroyed, prompting Paradox to travel back in time. When Paradox killed Pegasus, he killed the one who has already created Duel Monsters, So even if the future was heavily altered after his death, the game would still exist. And Paradox still possesses his deck.

Regarding the Sin Monsters, he can summon them only if he has the original monsters and a Field Spell on the field (Sin World in this case). So in a sense, he's transforming the original monsters into the Sin Monsters, kind of like how Pegasus turned regular monsters into Toon Monsters in Duelist Kingdom. I don't think he just found them.

It's true Sin and Toon monsters are similarities.

As I said earlier, the monsters he had belonged to powerful duelists (eg. Kaiba) or they were powerful by default (Rainbow Dragon). That could have been a reason to seek them out.

It's exact. I'm completly agree.

But where do Paradox's Sin Monsters come from? They are the remnants of the force which destroyed the world, the cards filled with the darkness and sin of the humans. Paradox is using the very thing that destroyed his future - Duel Monsters, and cards filled with the darkness of humans. The monster cards of Paradox are dyed black. There's a reason they must be dyed black, and that's why. The cards represent their owners, so perhaps those people ended up perishing in the shadow of their cards.

Maybe Sin monster are appeared at Paradox ? Maybe Sin cards had chosen Paradox ?

Perhaps Paradox was stronger, or he didn't give in yet, but he eventually did - he fused with Sin Truth Dragon, he eventually got engulfed in his own sorrow and grief, and his determination to end it all. He and the card became one, and the protagonists destroying him caused him to disappear. Sin Truth Dragon could represent Paradox's true self - his suffering caused him to be a human no longer. His soul dyed his cards further, until he and the card became one. He became one with the thing he meant to destroy. (AKA You Are The Demons)

It's true. It's completly a fusion with he hates. It's exact and It's a paradoxe.

But still, if the future wasn't destroyed by Duel Monsters, Paradox would have had no need to to invent time travel. Something had to trigger the invention of time travel, and if there was no catalyst, there would be no time travel at all. Yes, time travel is impossible because of the complications it would bring forth. But Paradox claimed Duel Monsters ruined his future. It's not impossible, we have witnessed Duel Monsters causing a mess several times in the franchise. Even if it didn't take the Doma or the GX route, powerful cards could have been still made (eg. new "God" Cards) which caused the destruction of the world. Or humanity's sins made the cards grow powerful, spinning out of control and causing destruction.

It could be possible we're missing something, we're going by summaries here, after all. We'd need to see the full work, complete with dialogue and the actual scenes in order to make a judgment. Until then, we might as well be grasping at straws and not know it.

For example, we don't know what could be behind Paradox fusing with Sin Truth Dragon, only that he fuses. I believe one of the movie previews (FUJIWARA's broadcast, I think) had dialogue with Paradox saying he's experimenting with history, something omitted from the summaries. See what I mean?

Yes. We don't know all, It's the problem. When he fuses with Sin Truth Dragon, what Paradox says ? What reacts Judai, Yugi and Yusei ? Are they surprised ? They wonder how Paradox do this with a monster ? They wonder why Paradox reacts like this (because until he fuses with Sin Truth Dragon, Paradox was quiet, very, very quiet) ? Yugi do the link with Marik ?

And Allana, regarding the lyrics (interpretations written in the brackets):

Won't say what I got to say, lucy ku ku lucy
Want to change, but can't change, munassy muna muna nassy [Paradox wanting to save his future, but he is unable to do so himself]

C'mon, be brave, hold on to hope and toss away the past [Possibly Paradox encouraging himself to press himself on after the future's destruction and destroy the past?]
Take each others' hands, cheer each other on; don't you want to
control the light to your will? [Maybe the protagonists cheering at each other they can save the world? Although the light thing + Judai = lawl.]

An uneasy night sure is lonely, savissy sasa vissy
You won't be the same, once I make you into my magic mike.

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

Can't be the me I want to be, nassy ka ka nassy [Paradox not being able to live in a good future, and instead is suffering in the bad one]
Can't stop the negative thoughts, negatty ga ga ga [He carries the grief on his shoulders]

Are you giving up on what you believe?
You can be strong, once I make you into my magic mike. [Paradox fusing with Sin Truth Dragon in order to go all out on the protagonists / Protagonists (or just Yusei) giving up on being able to save the future]

With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

pri hani fei pri hani fei oh oh x5

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
and I want to take you in my arms.
With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

I left out the chorus because... yeah.

You're interpretation of the lyrics is just excellent. You taken a lot of time, I'm sorry.

My question is only about these lyrics. I call them "strange lyrics". And there no answer for the moment.

With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

pri hani fei pri hani fei oh oh x5

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
and I want to take you in my arms.
With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

As for Dr. Fudo, we don't really know what he was like. Paradox sounds a lot crazier than him, anyhow.

Yes, It's very true.

Forgot to add, but this is from 2chan:

821 ：名無シネマさん：2010/01/25(月) 14:46:00 ID:nhQLipS2
ワーナー
1 . オーシャンズ
2 . アバター
3 . 10th アニバーサリー 劇場版 遊☆戯☆王 ～超融合！時空を越えた絆～
4 . サロゲート
5 . Dr.パルナサスの鏡

The movie holds the third place in the box office now! Go go protags, go go Paradox~[/FONT]

Good new !

[Lia]

Forgot to add, but this is from 2chan:

821 ：名無シネマさん：2010/01/25(月) 14:46:00 ID:nhQLipS2
ワーナー
1 . オーシャンズ
2 . アバター
3 . 10th アニバーサリー 劇場版 遊☆戯☆王 ～超融合！時空を越えた絆～
4 . サロゲート
5 . Dr.パルナサスの鏡

The movie holds the third place in the box office now! [/FONT]

Hahahah....yeah....definitely a really good news. ^_^

[chrisedomaster]

Hey guys.. Anyone has information about a Art Book of the Movie? or that a DVD release to the movie? Please answer ><

A little push,sorry i need a answer!>< Please. Don't know anyone that? I will import the Movie on DVD and need a answer. Or i import the Art Book.

[Lia]

It'll be good if someone scan the Art Book, but I guess it's not an easy task to scan over a 100 pages ^_^ so......we'll have to wait for any scans.

[Arynis]

Maybe Sin monster are appeared at Paradox ? Maybe Sin cards had chosen Paradox ?

The Sin cards choosing Paradox? You mean how the Gem Beasts chose Johan, for example?

...Oh!

Perhaps the Sin Monsters deliberately chose Paradox, which was how he survived the destruction of the world. It was the Sin Monsters ordering Paradox to kill Pegasus, possibly. It was the Sin Monsters' last resort to overcome the protagonists by fusing with Paradox and overthrow them. (Although this depends on how the fusion played out - did Paradox chose to fuse, or he did it involuntarily?) However, Frantz from GX comes to mind - he was driven by his frustration for not having his cards accepted by Pegasus. He went around the whole "God" deal, controlled Ra and fused with it nonetheless.

In other words, Paradox was a puppet, possessed by the Sin, to destroy the world completely. Paradox believed he was doing the right thing, but in reality, he was brainwashed by the entity. So the Sin Monsters are like some kind of an "entity", their Sin component, that is. It's like the sin of humanity turned into some force, but out of control, like the Light of Destruction. (I know LoD was some supernatural entity from space, I meant it as a comparison.)

Now, we know Paradox had Sin World, perhaps the "Sin" initially bonded with Paradox through this card, corrupting the stolen monsters later on. (The V-Jump articles did mention Paradox "had the ability" to turn the normal monsters into Sin monsters.) That is what the mask symbolizes - the black part is the "Sin" possessing Paradox, subconsciously controlling him, the white part is his real self, the wrecked man who believes he could save his future.

Also, Sin World was referred to as "The Forbidden Duel World".

After all, Darkness did talk about that bleak future to Judai. Perhaps it indeed came true. Let's take a look at the description of the future Darkness spoke of:

Darkness moves his hand closer to Judai, making him scared and close his eyes. The hand of Darkness begins to glow. When Judai opens his eyes, he finds himself in the world of ruins. Even Teacher Daitokuji and Pharaoh are also brought into this vision. Teacher Daitokuji understands that here is the future world that Darkness is talking about. The world is full of destruction and ruins. There is no sign of any life form.

Darkness explains that here is their future and unavoidable destiny. Human begins have already become exhausted to seek for possibility in their invisible or unpredictable future. Through the dept of their hearts, the students of Duel Academia get scared of appearing in the dangerous world. They neither believe in their power nor desire to confront the dangerous world. Judai keeps listening and understands that Darkness also refers to his friends, Asuka, Sho, Fubuki, and Manjoume, who have lost hope after seeing their hopeless futures. This kind of thought dyes cards black and gives power to Darkness.

This is what Darkness says about that future:

Darkness: Yes, my true identity... is the future of humans! Look over this world. And think carefully about what is going on. The non-stopping abnormal weather, extraordinary natural occurrences, endless disputes and terrorism! The countless incidents caused by broken humans!
Daitokuji: This... is the future of humans?
Darkness: This is unavoidable destiny! This is the future! Humans are already exhausted of looking for possibilities in their unpredictable future.

Those countless incidents could easily escalate into something destructive, especially when their sins power Duel Monster cards, said to reflect humans' souls.

And for last, let's not forget about this comparison:



They resemble a lot. Granted, the Earth in Darkness' vision was blue, Paradox's was red. Perhaps Darkness only showed the future's beginning or mid-stage, while Paradox's is the definite end.

Of course, this makes one wonder why didn't Judai recognize it was Darkness' vision Paradox was speaking of... Then again, Judai swore Darkness wouldn't return... (And he was likely pissed off for almost getting killed by Paradox.)

Yes. We don't know all, It's the problem. When he fuses with Sin Truth Dragon, what Paradox says ? What reacts Judai, Yugi and Yusei ? Are they surprised ? They wonder how Paradox do this with a monster ? They wonder why Paradox reacts like this (because until he fuses with Sin Truth Dragon, Paradox was quiet, very, very quiet) ? Yugi do the link with Marik ?

Yes, there are so many little details we don't know, just as you said. What their decisions, reactions and behavior were that time could easily make things seem different.

You're interpretation of the lyrics is just excellent. You taken a lot of time, I'm sorry.

My question is only about these lyrics.

Oh, don't worry about it. Figuring those parts didn't take me longer than 10-15 minutes. It's the chorus giving me a headache in that manner.

With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

pri hani fei pri hani fei oh oh x5

With that fine skin, those cherry lips, tantalizingly cute smile,
those glittering nails, hair gussied up, you've fixed yourself up nice,
and I want to take you in my arms.
With that skin like silk, glossy lips, scent as sweet as any fruit,
glistening nails, and seductive wavy hair, you've fixed yourself up nice,
so can I take you into my arms?

I still have no idea about that. XD It's one odd romantic chorus. Maybe only Atsushi Tamura is the only one who knows the meaning behind those, he wrote them, after all. (Who knows, he might have some odd headcanon in there... *shot*)

---

Regarding the movie specials, TV Tokyo has the schedule on their website (All times here are in Japan time!):

January 25 (Monday) 2:30-2:45 AM
January 26 (Tuesday) 3:00-3:15 AM
January 27 (Wednesday) 2:50-3:05 AM
January 28 (Thursday) 2:45-3:00 AM

A little push,sorry i need a answer!>< Please. Don't know anyone that? I will import the Movie on DVD and need a answer. Or i import the Art Book.

There's not too much info on the Animation Book, I'm afraid. The only known thing is that it's 135 pages long and supposedly has a short description of most characters. It possibly has movie information as well, but we don't know that.

I only found this blog entry. Would this help?

[Lia]

Regarding the movie specials, TV Tokyo has the schedule on their website (All times here are in Japan time!):

January 25 (Monday) 2:30-2:45 AM
January 26 (Tuesday) 3:00-3:15 AM
January 27 (Wednesday) 2:50-3:05 AM
January 28 (Thursday) 2:45-3:00 AM

Cool, I hope the 10th Anniversary Movie Special will be recorded by someone or at least at NewWise BBC will appear some cool screenshots from the movie. ^_^ It's the third day since the movie aired in Japan, so we need a new info. ^_^

[MajinSageofDark]

The duel was good but only 1 turn each (bar Yusei) It all seems a bit rushed seeing as it was building up for a year or more. To be honest I expected (hoped for) more...

[Allana]

The Sin cards choosing Paradox? You mean how the Gem Beasts chose Johan, for example?

...Oh!

Perhaps the Sin Monsters deliberately chose Paradox, which was how he survived the destruction of the world. It was the Sin Monsters ordering Paradox to kill Pegasus, possibly. It was the Sin Monsters' last resort to overcome the protagonists by fusing with Paradox and overthrow them. (Although this depends on how the fusion played out - did Paradox chose to fuse, or he did it involuntarily?)

In other words, Paradox was a puppet, possessed by the Sin, to destroy the world completely. Paradox believed he was doing the right thing, but in reality, he was brainwashed by the entity. So the Sin Monsters are like some kind of an "entity", their Sin component, that is. It's like the sin of humanity turned into some force, but out of control, like the Light of Destruction. (I know LoD was some supernatural entity from space, I meant it as a comparison.)

Now, we know Paradox had Sin World, perhaps the "Sin" initially bonded with Paradox through this card, corrupting the stolen monsters later on. (The V-Jump articles did mention Paradox "had the ability" to turn the normal monsters into Sin monsters.) That is what the mask symbolizes - the black part is the "Sin" possessing Paradox, subconsciously controlling him, the white part is his real self, the wrecked man who believes he could save his future.

Yes, I think that Paradox get his Sin monsters somewhere or Sin monsters choose him, like Johan. (One or other Paradox gets Sin monsters somewhere...) I wonder me If the monsters choose the duelist like Eathbound God. I think the second possibility is more probable. If It's the case, it seems they choose someone good, probably honest and nice. A perfect person who can be manipulate by use of his kindness and his conscience. Someone powerful in Duel Monsters, enough to beat any duelist. In others words, someone easy to manipulate thanks to his conscience and who is a very powerful duelist.

The idea about the mask is very probable, particularly because the behavior he has when he fuses with Sin Truth Dragon. Someone extremely quiet become suddently someone ruled by the hate. It isn't normal. Pus, it isn't logical. There something wrong.

After all, Darkness did talk about that bleak future to Judai. Perhaps it indeed came true. Let's take a look at the description of the future Darkness spoke of:



This is what Darkness says about that future:



Those countless incidents could easily escalate into something destructive, especially when their sins power Duel Monster cards, said to reflect humans' souls.

And for last, let's not forget about this comparison:



They resemble a lot. Granted, the Earth in Darkness' vision was blue, Paradox's was red. Perhaps Darkness only showed the future's beginning or mid-stage, while Paradox's is the definite end.

Of course, this makes one wonder why didn't Judai recognize it was Darkness' vision Paradox was speaking of... Then again, Judai swore Darkness wouldn't return... (And he was likely pissed off for almost getting killed by Paradox.)

Even the place is little different how Judai can missed the link with Darkness ? Similarities are presents. Something say me IT'S the dead future that Darkness showned him. HOW Judai can't see the similarities ? He is blind ?

Yes, there are so many little details we don't know, just as you said. What their decisions, reactions and behavior were that time could easily make things seem different.



Oh, don't worry about it. Figuring those parts didn't take me longer than 10-15 minutes. It's the chorus giving me a headache in that manner.

I understand. It's a very strange chorus.

I still have no idea about that. XD It's one odd romantic chorus. Maybe only Atsushi Tamura is the only one who knows the meaning behind those, he wrote them, after all. (Who knows, he might have some odd headcanon in there... *shot*)

I'm certain he is written for something. This chorus isn't written for nothing.

---

Regarding the movie specials, TV Tokyo has the schedule on their website (All times here are in Japan time!):

January 25 (Monday) 2:30-2:45 AM
January 26 (Tuesday) 3:00-3:15 AM
January 27 (Wednesday) 2:50-3:05 AM
January 28 (Thursday) 2:45-3:00 AM



There's not too much info on the Animation Book, I'm afraid. The only known thing is that it's 156 pages long and supposedly has a short description of most characters. It possibly has movie information as well, but we don't know that.

It's 15 minutes each time. Maybe an interview of each voice actor separatly ? Curiously, unknown sections aren't open. It's strange. They planned something else ?

V-Jump talked about true intentions of Paradox and his second wishes. It seems nothing show them... ? See the movie is the better solution to know the answer.

[Lia]

The duel was good but only 1 turn each (bar Yusei) It all seems a bit rushed seeing as it was building up for a year or more. To be honest I expected (hoped for) more...

Well, a 20mins duel was quite predictable since the movie's timelasting is 49 mins, but yeah.....we all wanted to be longer. Anyway, this has no longer any meaning, cuz it's already late for any repairs on the movie xD so we''ll have to satisfy with what we'll see......and hopefully enjoy it too. ^_^

[GoldenUmi]

Wait, I lost some information a mist all of the posts. What exactly is this 10th Anniverssary Special and what will it be covering exactly? Just stuff from the movie or anything extra?

I'm wondering if my theory about the Sin Monsters being related to the sins of mankind was explored at all.

[Allana]

Wait, I lost some information a mist all of the posts. What exactly is this 10th Anniverssary Special and what will it be covering exactly? Just stuff from the movie or anything extra?

I'm wondering if my theory about the Sin Monsters being related to the sins of mankind was explored at all.

You talked about the 4 dates given by Arynis ? It's about the movie but we don't what is it.

It seems nothing talked about the sins of mankind. We know little thing actually so can't say lot of thing about Sin monsters.

[MajinSageofDark]

It seems that this Movies length has meant much has been left unexplained and the duel that could have been such a good opportunity to show off wonderful combos between the 3 main characters was short and rushed.
The decision to make the movie 49 minutes was the worst decision ever

[Lia]

It seems that this Movies length has meant much has been left unexplained and the duel that could have been such a good opportunity to show off wonderful combos between the 3 main characters was short and rushed.
The decision to make the movie 49 minutes was the worst decision ever

As I said not once....we can't do nothing to change that....so...let's stop complaining. There's nothing Yugioh-ish that to be perfectly made, so is this movie.....but it's the best for the moment. ^_^
EDIT: These 4 Movie Specials that will air in 4 consecutive days, seem very suspicious to me O_o, but I hope they will be recorded. At least I hope that BBS NewWise will publish lots of screenshots. 8)

[MajinSageofDark]

As I said not once....we can't do nothing to change that....so...let's stop complaining. There's nothing Yugioh-ish that to be perfectly made, so is this movie.....but it's the best for the moment. ^_^
EDIT: These 4 Movie Specials that will air in 4 consecutive days, seem very suspicious to me O_o, but I hope they will be recorded. At least I hope that BBS NewWise will publish lots of screenshots. 8)

Movie Specials?

[Aoyama_fangirl]

Forgot to add, but this is from 2chan:

821 ：名無シネマさん：2010/01/25(月) 14:46:00 ID:nhQLipS2
ワーナー
1 . オーシャンズ
2 . アバター
3 . 10th アニバーサリー 劇場版 遊☆戯☆王 ～超融合！時空を越えた絆～
4 . サロゲート
5 . Dr.パルナサスの鏡

The movie holds the third place in the box office now! Go go protags, go go Paradox~

I honestly didn't think that the movie, expecially since it's a lot shorter compared to normal movies, would rank so up in the box office, sweet.

ETA: I think those specials will probably be interviews with maybe some clips from the movie or the anime, it seems the most logical option.

[Arynis]

As I said not once....we can't do nothing to change that....so...let's stop complaining. There's nothing Yugioh-ish that to be perfectly made, so is this movie.....but it's the best for the moment. ^_^
EDIT: These 4 Movie Specials that will air in 4 consecutive days, seem very suspicious to me O_o, but I hope they will be recorded. At least I hope that BBS NewWise will publish lots of screenshots. 8)

I'll try recording them if I can! :] The first special starts in one hour.

And according to this movie ranking list, the movie is the 5th.

[Makoeyes987]

But still, if the future wasn't destroyed by Duel Monsters, Paradox would have had no need to to invent time travel. Something had to trigger the invention of time travel, and if there was no catalyst, there would be no time travel at all.

Actually, that's not necessarily true. Time travel could be invented or discovered out of just basic scientific discovery, not out of necessity. Just like how Momentum wasn't created or discovered out of need or necessity. Assuming time travel is done out of necessity leads to a "Temporal Disinterest" conclusion. If someone builds a time machine for a specific purpose, and fulfills this purpose by means of time travel into the past, this would result in the inventor of the time machine being satisfied and not have a reason to create a time machine, thus causing yet another paradox.

[Lia]

I'll try recording them if I can! :] The first special starts in one hour.

Awwwww....sweet. ^_^

And according to this movie ranking list, the movie is the 5th.

The important thing is that it takes the first places....so yeah.....again.....very good news for the movie. ^_^

[Arynis]

Actually, that's not necessarily true. Time travel could be invented or discovered out of just basic scientific discovery, not out of necessity. Just like how Momentum wasn't created or discovered out of need or necessity. Assuming time travel is done out of necessity leads to a "Temporal Disinterest" conclusion. If someone builds a time machine for a specific purpose, and fulfills this purpose by means of time travel into the past, this would result in the inventor of the time machine being satisfied and not have a reason to create a time machine, thus causing yet another paradox.

Gah. "Temporal Disinterest", though? That's the first time I hear about it... D|;

I got the AxA video. I'm editing it now, it should be up on Youtube in about 10 minutes.

There wasn't much, just a little bit of new dialogue and clips here and there.

And the movie on that ranking list is on the 6th place now.

[Allana]

Gah. "Temporal Disinterest", though? That's the first time I hear about it... D|;

I got the AxA video. I'm editing it now, it should be up on Youtube in about 10 minutes.

There wasn't much, just a little bit of new dialogue and clips here and there.

And the movie on that ranking list is on the 6th place now.

New dialogue in the movie ?

[Lia]

I got the AxA video. I'm editing it now, it should be up on Youtube in about 10 minutes.
There wasn't much, just a little bit of new dialogue and clips here and there.

Well, that's just the first out of 4 specials....so I guess the most interesting is yet to come....hopefully.