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I don't think there'll be any old well known characters ( may be except for Pegasus )
In the movie, place will take the 3 protagonists, Paradox and eventually Pegasus as creator of Duel Monsters Card Game.
As DARK MASTER said - the problem with the old VAs is big, and I don't think that for a movie which will last at least 1h.30min. putting old characters will be a good idea. The duel between Paradox and the 3 guys will take the half of the time, the other half will be taken only by travelling through time untill Yugi, Yusei and Judai meet each other. (whcih I know is quite borring)
So there's no time left for putting any old characters. And to see someone like Anzu, Jou, Kaiba and e.t.c. for only a few seconds is stupid.
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Well to answer that question, I really gotta be fortune-teller,but thanks God I'm not.
But if we know everything about Paradox (especially where he comes from), we'll want to know his motives to chase the 3 main characters and so on...so the movie won't be that interesting.
The plot is already kinda disappointing, so I prefer not to know everything about this movie. I still have big hopes about it.
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Yeah, Pegasus will most definitely say something.With DEEEESUs.Unless Paradox keeps him silenced for the duration of his appearance with magic. :V
It depends when Paradox encounters Pegasus. Or if he will encounter him at all. The quote states that there's "an order to kill the creator of Duel Monsters", so it might be not even him to carry out the act. Or, he's the one being ordered, perhaps he was given a mission to save the future by destroying the past.
We don't know how would Paradox exactly "erase" Pegasus. It could be done "magically" or simply killing him. Or some other mudane way.
Maybe he has powers which allows him to erase Pegasus from the world timeline completely if he encounters him at one point in time. This could occur sometime after Duel Monsters was created, in which case a duel might be possible. Or perhaps not even a duel, he could just play cards to defend himself from Paradox's (or his underlings') ambush.
Pegasus could be encountered pre-Duelist Kingdom or post-Duelist Kingdom. (If they are following the anime timeline and he is alive). In the case of the former, he will have the Millennium Eye with the Mind Scan ability. We don't know if he was able to read Paradox's mind in such a situation. We don't know if Paradox is a human person, in which case mind reading may be possible. If Paradox has supernatural origins, Mind Scan might not be possible. (Basing this on the fact that Pegasus was unable to read Dark Bakura's mind in Episode 28 of DM.)
Or, perhaps in order to erase him, he'll simply have to get rid of him from the time before Duel Monsters was created. In that case, he will have no Millennium Eye or Duel Monsters cards to defend himself. (Unless Pegasus would pull a GAR moment and toss his canvas and paintbrushes at Paradox. :V)
As for Paradox, it would be interesting if he were a Well Intentioned Extremist of some kind instead of something like "I'm EEEEVIL for the lulz". I mean, it would be pretty ridiculous if the three protagonists were united against some lame villain. Let's hope he'll turn out to be a good one (more or less).
We don't even know if there's going to be another series. Takahashi intended 5D's to be the last one, either way. And I think Paradox is intended to be more of a spin-off thing, he won't affect the main series in a critical way. Otherwise things could get potentially weird in the future.Originally Posted by darkinfernal
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Yay~
Lol nah Peggy is cool. I wanna see Yami Malik and Yami Bakura but that is very VERY unlikely.
Any more stupid than Yusei going in these timelines and having no one else around? I think the latter is much more stupid. As I said, the purpose is to celebrate all series, so even if they are in the background, I am expecting to see some old characters.
Getting back the old VA for Jounouchi and Johan won't be too hard, as I at least know they are still quite active in the VA world. (Jou's voice Eneru in One Piece, that being just one big example of his work) and I know Johan's voice from many other animes (but can't think of an example.)
Anyhow, we will just have to wait and see. But I am very certain that we will see Kaiba, since he IS a major part in the series and his company is linked to Duel Monsters.
It has to end eventually. I expected it to end after GX (although I don't regret 5D's.)
That being said, I would like to see R as an anime/OVA.
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I think others characters will seen in the film more that few secondes. Paradox is really a bad character ? I thinking Paradox is a character more more complicated that a manichean chracter.
I thinking about one thing. Perhaps It's ridiculous but Paradox's violet hair reminds me Atem's hair. Imagine Paradox is Yugi ?
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Johan's VA could be Goku's VA?
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Okay, so, I've got a random theory that I thought I'd throw out there. Bear with me here...
Now, Paradox goes back in time to prevent Stardust Dragon from bringing about some sort of apocalypse, right? So first he steals Stardust, then goes back in time to prevent Stardust from existing. Logically, this creates a time paradox, since if he goes back in time to stop Stardust from existing, he won't have to go back in time, which means he never changed the past, so Stardust exists, which means he will have to go back in time, etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Now, there are plenty of ways of working around a time paradox, of course. Usually the easiest solution is that the person doing the traveling is unaffected by any changes in the timeline, letting them remember things as they were while reality is still changed according to the new timeline. However, say that is not the case. It's just as possible that a time paradox will threaten the fabric of reality.
In other words, by going back in time, Paradox causes the disaster that he seeks to prevent. It's not Stardust Dragon who causes everything, Stardust is just the MacGuffin which triggers the events, rather than the cause itself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, or stable time loop.
Of course, this is all just random postulating. If I'm right, I'll be very surprised, but I figured I'd just say it for the hell of it. Enjoy.
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Is it sure that Paradox travels back in time to destroy the past to save the future or only travels back to erase the Duel Monsters card game from existence/prevent its creation.
Which will make him 1 of us that are not very happy that Yu-Gi-Oh! took a turn and made Duel Monsters the main thing of its world.
Meaning with his time traveling stuff he realized that this simple harmlessly looking card game caused/triggered too much bad things too many times that usually threatened the destruction of the world/reality and so on. Probably the disasters in his time also.
So he decided to deal with the problem at the root.
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Most likely, yes.
Eliteslayer: That's an interesting theory there. I like it!
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So Paradox has a seiyuu now? (NOTE: His seiyuu is not specified on the official site yet. Only the three protagonists' VA are given.) I looked it up, and apparently he's Atsushi Tamura, who voiced Hiruma in Eyeshield 21.Originally Posted by Newswise BBS (First page of the thread, first post)
I'm not sure what to think. Doesn't sound what I imagined him to be like. He sounds kind of cocky, in Hiruma's role anyway.
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I don't know how is his voice. You seems don't like it. It is bad ? Maybe he uses a different tone of voice for Paradox ? Your link precises Yoshida Shin had done the scenario and Katsumi Ono Animation's supervision.
I found the translation of cocky... Indeed, It's curious. I didn't imagine Paradox's style like this
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For a brief second he sounded like Nobuyuki Hiyama, the voice actor of Ikkaku from Bleach, Viral from Gurren Lagann and many other popular anime series. That was when he was shouting. He also sounded kind of like Takumi Yamazaki who played Nijiima from Mightiest Disciple Kenichi.
A rather interesting voice, I must say. His profile says he hasn't been in much voice acting but is a lead singer in a j-pop band. I am, curious as towhat he will sound like as Paradox.
I also wonder if they will release any other VA in this movie, that will let us know who else will be appearing.
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Yeah, good point there. He could just use a different tone, after all.
I don't think it's bad, I just found it weird for the character I perceive him as. I dunno, he's like a mysterious man and everything. A calm man who is sure of his plan. Maybe it's just my interpretation and perception of him. But Paradox sounding like that (I mean, he does sound kind of Hot Blooded...) would be awkward for me. XD (Granted, I don't know what Hiruma is exactly like since I haven't seen the series.) Wikipedia noted that Hiruma was a trickster character just like Atsushi Tamura, although with that interpretation in mind we could think of Paradox being some kind of a trickster guy, which doesn't sound that bad, actually.
But I'll admit these were just knee-jerk reactions. *shrug*
GoldenUmi: He does sound a bit like Viral!
I'm in the middle of writing up my specualtions for the movie, which I should post soon... providing my brain won't break until then, because my head hurts from all the time travel stuff. XD
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Hiruma is a trickster kind of guy who always bosses people around, he blackmails literally everyone, is incredibly cocky, and carries multiple machine guns at any and every given moment. But he's also a genius and is incredibly lucky. He is very eccentric though, and everyone around him thinks he is a demon because he is very evil(in a comedic kind of way). In other words, Hiruma's always thinking of a master plan. If Paradox has Hiruma's VA, he's going to have to pull off one HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEELLUVA performance to convince me that it isn't the same person.
Paradox seems like an evil bad guy with a plan, and even though Hiruma is kind of the same, he's more of a evil-comedian who always has a plan for everything, even at the very last minute. Personally, I would have preferred someone who's close to Vegeta's Japanese VA for Paradox.
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Ah, I see. Thanks NeoKING!
But yeah, I don't see Paradox as a comedian. I thought he would have sounded good with the Anti Spiral's VA from Gurren Lagann. So he feels more like an entity of some kind, maybe.
Allana: Could be my interpretation. I thought of cocky as the way you said, sort of, but with a pinch of Hot Bloodedness to it. And by that, I mean he would sound "loud" and basically not calm at all. Energetic. That's why I like the Anti Spiral idea - he would sound somewhat evil while not sounding like some passionate person, lol.
EDIT: Hmm. Japanese Vegeta's voice would sound pretty good for him, too.
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Here's one video.
And another.
Here's his voice actor, Ryo Horikawa.
And if we are talking about Dragonball... :B Couldn't resist.
I hope these are good enough. :]
As for the other characters' VAs, I hope we'll get Jirou for Pegasus again.
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Not only does Ryo Horikawa voice JP Vegeta, he also does Captain Falcon in the Super Smash Bros. games. I think Mr. Horikawa's KAI Vegeta would be a pretty perfect fit for Paradox, if it was a bit toned down, maybe.. I mean, he doesn't seem to be too old, and for a plan like destroying all Duel Monsters or whatever, he doesn't seem to that "stuck-up his ass evil," so maybe I can see him as a bit cocky here and there, or more Vegeta-ish, kind of like the 3 swordsmen from DOMA or something like Fujiwara..Kind of.
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The key to voice acting is being able to alter your voice for any role: from a childish prankster to an evil mastermind. We will see if this VA has the skills to pull this off. It also depends on the character as well. He may look like an evil mastermind but under his mask he could be some punk ass ***** who was bullied for not having strong enough cards as a child and wants to get rid of DM as revenge. Lol, let's hope that's not the case.
Wow, he's like a clone of Niijima.Maybe they are related.
Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain in words, but you could also string this with arrogance and naivity as well. It's a string of different characteristics, along with the "hot-bloodedness" mentioned already.
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I bet that jaden and yusei will play new cards.A new ehero monster or a new nex neo spacian monster!!As for yusei,a new synchro monster.
I don't think that yugi will play a new card.
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A new Black Magician card, maybe
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Yeah, you're right. We'll see, indeed. And yes, let's hope it's not the case. :p
Either way, I tagged up with a friend and finished the speculation post I mentioned earlier. The post focuses on Pegasus, Paradox himself, and Paradox's time travel. It's somewhat long, but we enjoyed writing it. Even if half or all of it will turn out to be useless by the time the movie is released (or before it). That's the point of speculation, after all - guessing possibilities! Enjoy if you go ahead and read it. :B
Link the entry.
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I love that theory on how Stardust is a Synchro Monster, yet lame-ass-looking villan uses it for retrogressive time travel.
Also, I too noticed that his D-Wheel resembled a dragon just recently. In fact, when I saw it closely, it reminded me of Cyber Dragoon.
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Cyber Dragoon was such a disappointing Beyblade...
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Bad guys in YGO always want to destroy the world because of some big tragedy which had happened in their past. Or, at least, their evil actions are somehow influenced by this tragic, past event of their lives.
So, I guess Paradox is no different.
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I thought the name Paradox Has been used about 90 gazillion times already -shot-
....blah they shoudlve been more creative...
oh well, I'd still watch this
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Thanks everyone! :D I'm glad you liked it. :] Good to see our views on Paradox are similar.
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It appears Paradox's VA has been confirmed, it is Atsushi Tamura after all. (Look at the very bottom.)
The posters in that 2ch thread didn't seem too happy about it, either.
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I thinking about thing. Perhaps It's nothing or ridiculous but Paradox's violet hair reminds me Atem's hair. If Paradox was Yugi ?
After all, his face had never seen in GX. Also, It's Yugi who defeated Atem, so he is responsible of Atem's disappearence. And he defeated Atem thanks to Duel Monsters. I can't belive Yugi accept this: by a ritual, he do disappear his best friend because of Duel Monster. If the Duel Monster hadn't never existed Atem stayed in the real world. Or, Paradox wants to kill Pegasus for Duel Monster never exist... or rather for Synchro monster never exists ? Like a certain Stardust dragon the card destined to destroy the world ? It's two questions differnts for me. And he had chosen to come back in he time before Atem recover his memory. (I think this bacause Atem bears Millenium Puzzle and the teaser in episodes shows his monsters in Battle City period) Precisely at this period. Why Paradox choose this one and not come back in the time before Zero Reverse for example ? In choose to come back at this period I think isn't a coincidence.
And Anzu. It's curious Yusei's mother ressembles at her a lot I think. She lost Atem because Yugi and the Duel Monsters. Can be bear (supporter) this ? That Yugi do disseapear Atem by Duel Monster ? I think not because she intrested by Atem. See this way, a future between Yugi and Anzu become impossible... always bacause Duel Monster.
Also, episode 224 shows a priori that all characters return at a normal life. This seems very easy according to the episode. But I think It's more complicated.
What's your opinions ? I suppose a lot of persons will not agree.
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