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    Listening to the final noise-removed file's preview now for the GX Passionate Duelists scene, and doing it twice seems to have done the trick, since it's pretty quiet BGM-wise. You hear the song just a bit at the beginning, but after that "shing" SFX on Yugi's face, there's little to none of it. The only issue is there's a very slight..."hollowness," I guess would be the word, to the voices (it's, uh, kinda hard to describe, lol). It shouldn't sound all that bad with music and the backing SFX attached, but it may be slightly noticeable if a scene gets silenced (the backing SFX should help there, though). I might have to do the same to the Music/backing SFX tracks, too.

    So, I'll just need to remake the BGMs as they're used so I can noise-remove them from the dialogue/SFX track. Hopefully, it'll turn out the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    ;A;

    Is there any way you can put in Duel of Friendship (not the 5D's one- the DM one) near the end where they are setting off, Fang of Critias and Hopeless... somewhere in there XD?
    Was already planning on trying to include Duel of Friendship and Fang of Critias. But I didn't even consider Hopeless... good suggestion! I don't know where to fit all three in, though.

    The rip I made isn't perfect, but I think it will work if you guys don't mind it sounding just a bit different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow91 View Post
    Those samples sound amazing. So did you upload the voices and sound effect file already? I want to play around with it a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    Listening to the final noise-removed file's preview now for the GX Passionate Duelists scene, and doing it twice seems to have done the trick, since it's pretty quiet BGM-wise. You hear the song just a bit at the beginning, but after that "shing" SFX on Yugi's face, there's little to none of it. The only issue is there's a very slight..."hollowness," I guess would be the word, to the voices (it's, uh, kinda hard to describe, lol). It shouldn't sound all that bad with music and the backing SFX attached, but it may be slightly noticeable if a scene gets silenced (the backing SFX should help there, though). I might have to do the same to the Music/backing SFX tracks, too.

    So, I'll just need to remake the BGMs as they're used so I can noise-remove them from the dialogue/SFX track. Hopefully, it'll turn out the same way.
    Excellent!

    I know what you mean by the "hollowness". It's so hard to put into words, though. It just makes them sound a little less natural, somehow, like something was taken that you just can't put your finger on.

    I think the best thing to do would be not to apply that filter to the entire movie and only do it on the scenes where we're planning to change things. Like I believe we'll be leaving Light and Darkness in every version? Or do you guys want to switch it out on at least one with something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Excellent!

    I know what you mean by the "hollowness". It's so hard to put into words, though. It just makes them sound a little less natural, somehow, like something was taken that you just can't put your finger on.
    Haha, that's exactly it. It's like 95% of the voices are there, but that other 5% makes it sound really good.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi
    I think the best thing to do would be not to apply that filter to the entire movie and only do it on the scenes where we're planning to change things. Like I believe we'll be leaving Light and Darkness in every version? Or do you guys want to switch it out on at least one with something else?
    Yep, once I remake all the BGM tracks (I think we're leaving Light and Dark at least for the first, but it could always be trimmed a bit to play around a bit more), I was just going to apply that filter to only those parts of the SFX/Dialogue track, and then save the file to use.

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    Just those two clips you made, made me feel like I was watching DM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    Haha, that's exactly it. It's like 95% of the voices are there, but that other 5% makes it sound really good.

    Yep, once I remake all the BGM tracks (I think we're leaving Light and Dark at least for the first, but it could always be trimmed a bit to play around a bit more), I was just going to apply that filter to only those parts of the SFX/Dialogue track, and then save the file to use.
    Sounds great. I have some homework to do now, but I think I'll play around with a few more samples for my ideas in the next day or so. I don't want to go too crazy, but there's a few scenes I want to experiment with. Once I'm done with my experiments, I wouldn't mind making samples for other people's ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by masterduelistky View Post
    Just those two clips you made, made me feel like I was watching DM.
    That's really the main problem I have with the movie, aside from its length. Hey, I love 5D's as much as Duel Monsters, but this is supposed to be a three-way-collaboration. I don't feel enough emphasis was placed on GX, and even more importantly, the series that started it all, the original. Sure, we can't do anything about the length or the plot, but we can at least try and give fans more nostalgia with GX and DM fan favorite tracks.

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    Not that I'm asking as a favor, but did you ever wonder what it would be like to use Going my Way as the song for Yusei, Jaden, and Atem's final attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER View Post
    Not that I'm asking as a favor, but did you ever wonder what it would be like to use Going my Way as the song for Yusei, Jaden, and Atem's final attack?
    It would be kind of cool, wouldn't it? I feel like Clear Mind should be in here too somewhere, lol. Well, we're doing three different versions. It would be kind of cool to try that out in at least one of them, don't you think? I feel like Clear Mind can play during Yusei's first turn.

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    http://www.tudou.com/playlist/p/l12444915.html : MOVIE

    Great.. I saw the movie.. but, Where I can find the Movie without this subtitles?
    So, Thi subtitles are chineses. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER
    Not that I'm asking as a favor, but did you ever wonder what it would be like to use Going my Way as the song for Yusei, Jaden, and Atem's final attack?
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    It would be kind of cool, wouldn't it? I feel like Clear Mind should be in here too somewhere, lol. Well, we're doing three different versions. It would be kind of cool to try that out in at least one of them, don't you think? I feel like Clear Mind can play during Yusei's first turn.
    Huh...that actually isn't a bad idea. Although...since the movie is about bonds and them being time-transcending and all, maybe Kizuna should get thrown in for one?

    @SilverButterfly: The subbed movie's already in one of the first few posts, or you can go back a page or two and find GU posting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    Huh...that actually isn't a bad idea. Although...since the movie is about bonds and them being time-transcending and all, maybe Kizuna should get thrown in for one?

    @SilverButterfly: The subbed movie's already in one of the first few posts, or you can go back a page or two and find GU posting it.
    I like Going My Way better, but... well, we could always try fitting all three in one of the three versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    I like Going My Way better, but... well, we could always try fitting all three in one of the three versions.
    Heh, so do I. Just figured an insert that went with one of the movie's themes would work nicely, lol. But yeah, we can mess around and see what can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    Heh, so do I. Just figured an insert that went with one of the movie's themes would work nicely, lol. But yeah, we can mess around and see what can work.
    Sounds good.

    By the way, SavyFox from LittleKuriboh's team (playing Jaden) messaged me and wanted to know if I'd give them my raw. And I did. So we can expect an abridged version sooner.

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    So uh... I think 'After the Battle' can fit in there somewhere but where. Then again. too many DM tracks have been sugested. Since this is a three-way crossover, we need a few more GX and 5D's tracks to fit in there.
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    It's a good thing there's the TV version of Going my Way to fit with the scene^^, I don't know how Clear Mind and Kizuna could fit into that final attack scene.

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    I'll put it simply: GU, you are absolutely sublime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Sounds good.

    By the way, SavyFox from LittleKuriboh's team (playing Jaden) messaged me and wanted to know if I'd give them my raw. And I did. So we can expect an abridged version sooner.

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    I can just imagine the abridged version will definitely have mention of Aki's many fanservice shots-v-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Before I reply again, here is the HQ subbed movie:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjg...dvd_shortfilms

    It's encoding, but it should be ready soon for your viewing pleasure.




    Well, it was also played when Bakura merged with Zorc, so I disagree on that. I think it would fit well. Although, I think you're thinking of a different spot than I am. I want to play this theme a bit later on after this. Where exactly, I'd have to think over and see where it fits more.



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    No, Light and Darkness will not be touched. I wanted to play this theme during his fusing with Sin Truth Dragon, to give a nod to Dark Malik's fusing with Ra (that theme was used). All of this replaces Placido's Fusion, which can easily be cut for much better themes. Nothing against it though.



    I do too. Will keep it then.
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    Why does Pegasus still have his eye?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTheAntihero View Post
    Why does Pegasus still have his eye?
    Prosthetic I’m sure. Wish he'd tie his hair back into a pony tail and wear an eye patch. He'd look fabulously awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTheAntihero View Post
    Why does Pegasus still have his eye?
    Fake replica - He usually doesn't wear one but didn't want to scare the kiddies there.

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    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!
    Good think we should have all preordered the MangaUK version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!
    Really? God, 4Kids suck I think the UK one is still due to be released as planned, I've not received any notification emails from Amazon anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!
    WRONG! It's DECEMBER 2012. When it's shipped to stores. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.
    If I have to quote Akari - "Something smells fishy here..." and it definitely isn't the fish I ate for dinner an hour ago..... But yeah....that doesn't seem normal, but still - that's 4KID'S we're talking about. Not that they can add some more intriguing material to make their version more for preference by fans.


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    I can't believe we have to wait even more for just one dvd.

    Where did you guys get this information from? Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makoeyes987 View Post
    in other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the ygo 3d movie has been postponed until....january of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    In other less awesome and awe inspiring news, apparently the 4kids dub release of the YGO 3D movie has been postponed until....January of 2012.

    It's as if 4kids is trying to piss off as many of the few poor fans who still support it, as possible. Great job!
    Whelp Im glad we still have the UK release so I couldn't care. But good job 4kids, for trying to royally f__k up everything YGO before your license is taken away.

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    I can't believe we have to wait even more for just one dvd.

    Where did you guys get this information from? Link?
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    12/31/20XX is usually a placeholder date, so we can assume that the movie has no release date as of now. I wonder if this has to do with the lawsuit?? In any case, it's disappointing, as I wanted a 3D blu-ray version, and the UK version is Region B and won't play on my US PS3 :/. ~Sigh~ maybe I'll have to import the JP version...

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    Man I just don't get it if 12/31/2012 is really the release date for the english movie then why would 4kids make their fans wait for a year just to buy a 49 minute movie its kinda weird..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamtravisporter View Post
    Man I just don't get it if 12/31/2012 is really the release date for the english movie then why would 4kids make their fans wait for a year just to buy a 49 minute movie its kinda weird..
    Either they don't have the money to pay for a DVD distributer in the US (Europe already had one, hence they still get a DVD) or no DVD distributer wants to do business with them or they're focusing everything on Zexal to make a quick cash in before the lawsuit hits them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Either they don't have the money to pay for a DVD distributer in the US (Europe already had one, hence they still get a DVD) or no DVD distributer wants to do business with them or they're focusing everything on Zexal to make a quick cash in before the lawsuit hits them.

    Ok I think I get it now. On wikipedia the Yugioh movie article said that A&E Home video was suppose to release the movie in the U.S I guess 4kids didn't pay enough mabye?


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    I just got the movie! I only watched part of the dvd rip so I didn't spoil myself before it arrived. Now I've watched it through 2 times~~

    Man, I love this movie! The dub was fun, but you just can't beat the original. Paradox's acting was something else. I really enjoyed it and was actually shocked to see how much his tone changed when he sacrificed his life to fuse with/become Sin Truth Dragon. He really sounded desparate and in pain… Also, the amount of Judai just made me crazy happy. But seriously, neko-neko Daitokuji-sensei gets more screentime than Kaiba (who, of course, got zero.) I mean, I love my GX, and I know it makes sense because Judai took him with him, but srsly....!

    And I know this was in another thread, but since I finally watched the whole movie through again since seeing it in the theaters, I have to say...

    --This movie is not a stable time loop! You know why? Look at when Luca brings the article for Yusei to see. She shows him Paradox attacking with Stardust Dragon (in GX timeline.) But what we also see, is the Domino City Duel Cup completing successfully (DM timeline). That means that when Paradox was first back in the past fighting Judai, he hadn't assassinated Pegasus yet. Only a few minutes after Yusei chases Paradox off, do we see an article about Pegasus being killed, and this is in GX land. If it was on the Manjoume group's database then, if it had already happened in the future/present, it should have been on the report Luca gave Yusei. Plus Neos only starts to disappear after Paradox leaves Judai.

    --Let's think about this, if Paradox kills Pegasus in the past, that means Kaiba Corp is unlikely to hold a card design competition for DM when Judai is a little boy, thus he didn't design and submit Neos = no card.

    --So only after Paradox leaves Yusei and Judai in Europe does he go back to DM to try and kill Pegasus. Which, again, he hadn't tried the first time Yusei travelled in time after him.

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    I've seen it speculated that Paradox let Yugi live through the Domino City disaster, because he had to live in order for the Pharaoh to stop Zorc or the world would be destroyed anyway. If he assassinated Pegasus before DM was invented, the Pharaoh would never have reclaimed the God Cards and his memory, most likely.

    But wait, he didn't try to kill Pegasus until after failing to kill Judai, yet Neo Domino City was still being erased from the timeline after the first attack! Which seems to mean, Judai, after graduation, had something to do with either Momentum, Synchro Summoning, or Yusei. If he had no role in shaping 5D's, then killing him in Europe would not have affected Yusei's Neo Domino City. (Now what part he had in the setting of 5D's is even wilder speculation~)

    Now here's the weirder thing. When Paradox killed Pegasus in DM's time, not only did Neos disappear, but Europe itself started to disappear as an effect of the timeline! Now, we can argue that the world was heavily shaped by Dueling in 5Ds, but it wasn't that affected by it in the GX era. Yeah there were a few schools, and a professional sports league, but it's not Neo Europe or anything, right?

    So, killing Pegasus and making Duel Monsters fade out had an effect on the world in GX's time…? One big enough to affect Europe, which wasn't even the stage of the story?! What was it?

    Okay, so there is no Duel Monsters, no card game, therefore, no Academy to teach card games. So what is different?
    • With no Duel Monsters as a vessel, Kagemaru probably had no way to regain his youth by way of the Genma and the Seven Stars, so that probably didn't happen. (1st Year Disaster Averted)
    • Saiou was still a disenfranchised orphan, but he was infected by the Light of Destruction by way of DD, who was infected by Edo's father (basically) through making a DM card. If there was no DM, Edo's father wouldn't have designed Bloo-D, so no vessel for the light. (2nd Year Disaster Averted)
    • The Yubel stuff probably would have still happened, since that was set into motion long into the past, but Yubel wasn't intending on destroying the human world, just gaining possession of Judai. (3rd Year Disaster Averted)
    So what had a big enough impact that it would change the shape of the world in GX just because there was no more card game after DM? It would have to be something that started during the time of DM…

    Yusuke Fujiwara. His parents died when he was very little, and GX was only 10 years after DM. Since Fujiwara is around 21 at the end of the show, that means his parents most likely died in a car crash during the course of the first show. His parent's death led to his "issues" and his issues led to the summoning of Darkness. With no Duel Monsters and possibly no Judai (especially no Johan with no Crystal Beasts/Rainbow Dragon!) there is likely no one to stop Fujiwara and Darkness's return, erasing everyone in the world so they can become one with Darkness. Now THAT is big enough to have an impact on Europe post-Graduation Ceremony.

    So, while Paradox may have planned for Atem and Zorc, he didn't plan for the actions of emo-tastic Yusuke! So it is a good thing Yusei defeated Z-ONE and then saved the future with his amazing ability to become a trusted lead scientist with no training and schooling!


    Oh, and did anyone else find the movie's ending bittersweet now that Yusei and Judai and Yugi and Atem all mean to meet up again sometime later, but now that the Crimson Dragon took his marks and went home at the end of 5Ds, Yusei cannot travel in time anymore? Even if Yugi and Judai are still around in Yusei's time, Atem is gone… He and Yusei can never meet again. (Unless Yuma and Astral pull off some crazy 2nd crossover movie?)

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    Well... The Movie HQ is REALLY HQ... but, Where is the Movie without subtitles? It�s strange, I can find the movie with subtitles, so, Why this movie isn't without subtitles in internet? WHYYYYYYYYYY... ;A;

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    Here is a test scan that I did (using my printer/scanner) of booklet that came with DVD.

    I try to scan all of it in the future when I am able to, but wanted to see what you thought of this one (first).

    Spoiler: It's only a test scan image


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    Here is the list of samples of my version, borrowing some ideas from Mako and Lance in some places:

    Movie Format - GoldenUmi Version

    Beginning

    Second Scene Change

    Third Scene Change

    Fourth Scene Change

    Fifth Scene Change

    Yugi's Turn with Passionate Duelists (Fixed)

    Paradox's Assault

    Ending

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    Any of the scenes not shown will retain their silence/original scores.

    Once Lance makes me the list of suggestions, I will throw together other samples in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Here is the list of samples of my version, borrowing some ideas from Mako and Lance in some places:

    Movie Format - GoldenUmi Version

    Beginning - Great, like the first track a lot

    Second Scene Change - Seriously one of my favorites, it sounds like this was ment to be...

    Third Scene Change - pretty good, but it sounds/looks like the screams are all missing, which makes the scene look a little funny...

    Fourth Scene Change - I can't remember what played here, but this was good

    Fifth Scene Change - pretty good, while Judai's theme was nostalic, I think the others fit better...

    Yugi's Turn with Passionate Duelists (Fixed) - of course this is way better IMO

    Paradox's Assault - definately one of the best replacements

    Ending - great

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    Any of the scenes not shown will retain their silence/original scores.

    Once Lance makes me the list of suggestions, I will throw together other samples in the near future.
    Thoughts are in the quote, only thing I'd like to see is possibly the part with Yusei's theme replaced with Duel of Friendship, but I think this version would be very cool to have. (Is there any way you can make one video file with multiple audio options?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashman_11 View Post
    Thoughts are in the quote, only thing I'd like to see is possibly the part with Yusei's theme replaced with Duel of Friendship, but I think this version would be very cool to have. (Is there any way you can make one video file with multiple audio options?)
    Remember this is just a demo, so any missing background noises will be dealt with.

    I'm not sure if we can do that or not, but maybe Lance knows how. And we will definitely try the Duel of Friendship in there somewhere, but not necessarily during Yusei's turn. I think it fits better in place of Bonds of the Three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Here is the list of samples of my version, borrowing some ideas from Mako and Lance in some places:

    Movie Format - GoldenUmi Version

    snipsnipsnip
    ;A; Glorious. My only complaint was the lack of Duel of Friendship and Hopeless but I assume it'll be sorted around/edited/put into a different version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    Here is the list of samples of my version, borrowing some ideas from Mako and Lance in some places:

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    Beginning
    I like the idea of throwing "Wicked Grudge" in there. But I think "Mystery of the Millennium Kingdom" should've started as the movie fades in (unless you put it there 'cause of that "hearing the original BGM" issue).

    Second Scene Change
    Good choice with "Legend of the People of the Stars." Either it or "Dragon" would've fit there, but the first gets underused after Seasons 1/2, lol. Also liked that you threw in "Calm Before the Duel" from GX for that attack scene. And for "Agonizing Heart," a sec or two later might be better, since there wasn't much silence between the two. Something should be thrown in for the buildings falling, too.

    Third Scene Change
    I think "Battle City" should finish up right as the clock strikes noon. Feels kinda weird having it keep playing as the dragons fly in, lol. "Battle of the Gods" wasn't too bad there, either, though it feels weird playing while not much action is going in the later parts, lol.

    Fourth Scene Change

    Likin' "Mysterious" here, but it could also work from the article flashback to the end of that scene.

    Fifth Scene Change
    Those two Yliaster themes worked pretty well. I'd have just started the second one at Paradox's close-up before the flashback. Passionate Duelists starting in the middle was kinda jarring, though. Maybe still using the beginning part, but, like you were going for, starting with the DM one and finish with the GX one might do the trick. "Wicked Spirit" is still awesome, just it could start right as Sin World gets played and we see it forming. I like "Yusei Fudo" for his turn; just gotta work on the looping a bit. "Wrath of God" worked well, and "Fervent Duel!" worked as great as I thought it would.

    Yugi's Turn with Passionate Duelists (Fixed)
    Aside from one or two looping jumps, absolutely flawless.

    Paradox's Assault
    Seems to be the same one from before, so just what I said then. That said, it can't be good that I still get uncomfortable every time I see Paradox go Yami Malik...

    Ending
    I think starting "Connected Hearts" right after Yusei says they'll always be bonded also works nicely, but it still fits perfectly there.
    My thoughts in the quote. Once I get those tracks (mostly) silenced BGM-wise, we should have a lot more room for creativity.

    Also, about doing more than one audio track in a video file... I dunno, actually. It could work for an .mkv, maybe, but I dunno about avi's or mp4's letting you do it. It's a good idea, though (saves us making multiple files), so I'll look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    ;A; Glorious. My only complaint was the lack of Duel of Friendship and Hopeless but I assume it'll be sorted around/edited/put into a different version.
    Yes, those will be added in a later version. I was really just experimenting with my ideas and Mako's/Lance's here, but I'll get around to trying other scenarios out.

    @ Lance - Some repositioning may be needed all around. This was basically just so you all see what I was envisioning.

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    [QUOTE=GoldenUmi;2567252]Here is the list of samples of my version, borrowing some ideas from Mako and Lance in some places:

    Movie Format - GoldenUmi Version

    I wasn't a big fan of Mystery of the Millennium Kingdom choice. It just didn't seem to fit at all. The Egyptian theme and melody lines didn't mesh at all with the European scenery, and non-Egyptian monsters, especially Cyber End, and Stardust. And of course, Paradox lol. I did love Wicked Grudge though. That was a nice surprise. That was a great choice.

    "People of the Stars" was an AWESOME choice. That was a rather clever, and well placed choice. The other one where Judai was attacked and Yusei appeared, I wasn't that fond of personally, but I haven't heard that song in awhile. It was surprising to hear again though. What were the tracks you used for the Judai and Yusei meeting? I didn't recognize them? They were pretty good too!

    Oh. My. God. You did it. YES. This sounds SO much better. "Battle City" and "Wrath of God" made those scenes so much better. Thank you for that. That just. Yeah. Total win right there. XD

    OH MY GOD! You used. THAT one. I totally didn't even think of that one! That was a GREAT choice. The Doma "Mystery" track. I loved that. That totally fit this scene perfectly. Way to go on that choice. Damn, you're on a roll. XDDDD

    What 5Ds track did you use for when Paradox first appeared after saying he couldn't let them do that? I like it. It's a very good one. I'm more partial to the original one that was used but this one is damn good too. Awesome choice. And then what was the track that came after it? That was spot on. Omg. I love this track XDDD I wish I remembered all the 5Ds track names. This one leading into their fight and challenge was perfect. Especially with Paradox's D-Wheel transforming and yeah. XD

    ....Why didn't you use the real Passionate Duelists when Yugi transformed into Atem there? That time definitely needs the REAL Passionate Duelists theme. It sounds so hollow without it.

    Wicked Spirit works PERFECTLY for Paradox's first turn. I loved it, thank you!

    Not really a fan of the music used for Yusei's turn. I much prefer the Season 1 Yusei theme. It's a good track but not for a first turn, to me.

    The next theme used for Paradox's second turn, I'm not quite feeling either. It's the Egyptian motif that just..it doesn't quite fit him. Especially with him summoning something like Sin Rainbow Dragon XD Just doesn't seem to work to me.

    I much prefer Judai's theme for Judai's turn too. I mean, the track's good but. I'm not really preferring that change either XD Interesting choice though. That's another track that is used for whenever Judai begins to curbstomp his opponents!


    This was perfect. Period. Nothing else to even say. Perfect.

    I've seen this one before so my thoughts are pretty much the same. The track used for Paradox's merging with Sin Truth Dragon worked surprisingly well. As did the other one. "Battle of the Gods" was paradoxical but kinda worked. Not exactly my choice but still pretty damn good.

    The theme used was perfect. However I would've started it sooner, like at 13 seconds in. I think it'd fit better at that time than starting it so later.

    Overall I think your choices were pretty good. A few I disagree with, but a majority of them I can see working, or even like now that I've seen you do! You've got a good ear for this. I'm so damn excited.

    I hope Lance is still keeping track of the versions cause now mine kinda changed to add the ones Umi just turned me onto.

    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    My thoughts in the quote. Once I get those tracks (mostly) silenced BGM-wise, we should have a lot more room for creativity.

    Also, about doing more than one audio track in a video file... I dunno, actually. It could work for an .mkv, maybe, but I dunno about avi's or mp4's letting you do it. It's a good idea, though (saves us making multiple files), so I'll look into it.
    Eep. I can't play MKVs on my tv/PS3. =\
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    THANK YOU! That's pure AWESOMENESS! (It's extraordinarily incredible how better the original Passionate Duelist fits Yugi's turn!)
    There's only one thing that bugs me about the Fifth Scene Change a.k.a. Test 4 - Passionate Duelist that starts at 3:45 may be should end exactly at 4:09 (right after the protagonists' life counter appears and before the scene with Daitokuji and Pharaoh on the roof at 4:10) so there to be short silence while Daitokuji says his sentence.
    I'll have to listen all videos more in details when I have time, but no matter what comments I'll have on them, they really sound better than in the original version of the movie and I think I agree with almost all choices. Still can't realize why those making the movie would neglect such amazing DM tracks. These versions should be literally thrown in their faces so to see how true fans are doin' it! x)
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    Question. The movie leaves a massive problem for me. When Paradox died he was disintergrated (so it seems), so his cards where likely also. if this is so then...

    1. How would time have changed since Kiaba now only had 2 blue eyes. It would mean he couldn't have put up his fight against Zorc.

    2. same point with Jonouchi

    GX poses less of an issue being he could have nicked them after their plots had resolved in GX.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GymLeaderLance99 View Post
    My thoughts in the quote. Once I get those tracks (mostly) silenced BGM-wise, we should have a lot more room for creativity.

    Also, about doing more than one audio track in a video file... I dunno, actually. It could work for an .mkv, maybe, but I dunno about avi's or mp4's letting you do it. It's a good idea, though (saves us making multiple files), so I'll look into it.
    mkvmerge can add multiple audio tracks for mkvs, while Yamb does the same thing but for mp4s.
    I have no idea about doing it with avi's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YaminoRPG View Post
    Question. The movie leaves a massive problem for me. When Paradox died he was disintergrated (so it seems), so his cards where likely also. if this is so then...

    1. How would time have changed since Kiaba now only had 2 blue eyes. It would mean he couldn't have put up his fight against Zorc.

    2. same point with Jonouchi

    GX poses less of an issue being he could have nicked them after their plots had resolved in GX.
    The cards materialized back to their original owners ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    I wasn't a big fan of Mystery of the Millennium Kingdom choice. It just didn't seem to fit at all. The Egyptian theme and melody lines didn't mesh at all with the European scenery, and non-Egyptian monsters, especially Cyber End, and Stardust. And of course, Paradox lol. I did love Wicked Grudge though. That was a nice surprise. That was a great choice.
    For this, I actually agree with you. This is one of the few times an idea in my head didn't come out the way I was hoping. It's a great track, but I don't think it fit here. I'd be fine with us swapping it out for something else.

    Glad you liked Wicked Grudge, though. I thought that part at least worked well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    "People of the Stars" was an AWESOME choice. That was a rather clever, and well placed choice.
    I was surprised they didn't include this anywhere in the movie, to be honest. I'm glad you guys approve on this, because I think it fits the scene well. Lance may shorten it a bit more so it doesn't leak into the Judai scene, but I think it worked well overall. We could also start it earlier, but I think it wouldn't fit playing until they see Stardust.

    [QUOTE=Makoeyes987;2567270]The other one where Judai was attacked and Yusei appeared, I wasn't that fond of personally, but I haven't heard that song in awhile. It was surprising to hear again though. What were the tracks you used for the Judai and Yusei meeting? I didn't recognize them? They were pretty good too![/quote[

    To be honest, most GX tracks (aside from the few that kickass) I'm not too fond of. I just chose the first one out of the blue, so I am open to any ideas you all have for this. I think Lance had an idea for the face-off between the two.

    The second track was one of the tracks Lance suggested, forget the name. I think it's called "jealousy", but I may be mixing them up. I think it worked a bit better than the one they used, even if I liked that one too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Oh. My. God. You did it. YES. This sounds SO much better. "Battle City" and "Wrath of God" made those scenes so much better. Thank you for that. That just. Yeah. Total win right there. XD
    Yeah, it worked well over all. I too thought it was a bit odd having it leak over Paradox's speech. I just couldn't figure out how to shorten it anymore, lol, but maybe Lance can do the trick. It's hard for me to cut down pieces of a music track that's really good, because I like the entire thing usually and I get mad at having to lose certain pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    OH MY GOD! You used. THAT one. I totally didn't even think of that one! That was a GREAT choice. The Doma "Mystery" track. I loved that. That totally fit this scene perfectly. Way to go on that choice. Damn, you're on a roll. XDDDD
    Lance actually tipped me off to this idea, so kudos to him. Well, he didn't mention where to use it. I just thought here would work pretty well, so glad you approve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    What 5Ds track did you use for when Paradox first appeared after saying he couldn't let them do that? I like it. It's a very good one. I'm more partial to the original one that was used but this one is damn good too. Awesome choice.
    Hey, I love Showdown as well, but I just wanted to try some different things out in these different versions.

    FYI, the track I used in this scene was an unreleased track that always played during scenes with Placido, Lucciano and Jose (and later Aporia) so we dubbed it "The Three Emperors of Yliaster". This is one of the few unreleased tracks I did that came out so well I actually used it in a project like this. And I think it fits the eery feeling between them all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    And then what was the track that came after it? That was spot on. Omg. I love this track XDDD I wish I remembered all the 5Ds track names. This one leading into their fight and challenge was perfect. Especially with Paradox's D-Wheel transforming and yeah. XD
    This one was "Placido" on the third sound duel. One of the best season 3 pieces we had along with Yliaster Battle Mode before the W.R.G.P. rolled around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    ....Why didn't you use the real Passionate Duelists when Yugi transformed into Atem there? That time definitely needs the REAL Passionate Duelists theme. It sounds so hollow without it.
    The 3.5 minutes I gave you wasn't enough? >;D

    I don't hate the second version as much as you seem to, so I kind of like it being here. Surely it playing for such a small amount of screentime wouldn't bother you THAT much, would it?

    Back to a comment Lance made, I don't think it's any less jarring than how it was done in the original, but that's just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Wicked Spirit works PERFECTLY for Paradox's first turn. I loved it, thank you!
    I admit this track worked even better than the original.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Not really a fan of the music used for Yusei's turn. I much prefer the Season 1 Yusei theme. It's a good track but not for a first turn, to me.
    Not to be nitpicky, but this track came first. The "Yusei Fudo" theme, at least to me, sounds a lot better than Yusei Battle. And I think the ending to that theme works well here. We can't agree on everything, so... well yeah, lol.

    That being said, I would so use the Synchro Summon unreleased theme from the first 12 episodes if I had a better rip of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    The next theme used for Paradox's second turn, I'm not quite feeling either. It's the Egyptian motif that just..it doesn't quite fit him. Especially with him summoning something like Sin Rainbow Dragon XD Just doesn't seem to work to me.
    While I admit you have a point... don't forget how they shoved it with Dartz, who was no more Egyptian than Paradox is.

    Even if we remove the second part of this, you have to admit the first 30 seconds or so (the choir chanting part) works well here. We could just use that and maybe use something like Terror as was used originally or maybe even Dark Signer Battle. Or Earthbound God.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    I much prefer Judai's theme for Judai's turn too. I mean, the track's good but. I'm not really preferring that change either XD Interesting choice though. That's another track that is used for whenever Judai begins to curbstomp his opponents!
    Again, this was just to try something different out. I love Judai's theme much better, but... just experimenting here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    The theme used was perfect. However I would've started it sooner, like at 13 seconds in. I think it'd fit better at that time than starting it so later.
    This was a quickie and the song was too short. It really needs to be looped a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    Overall I think your choices were pretty good. A few I disagree with, but a majority of them I can see working, or even like now that I've seen you do! You've got a good ear for this. I'm so damn excited.

    I hope Lance is still keeping track of the versions cause now mine kinda changed to add the ones Umi just turned me onto.


    Eep. I can't play MKVs on my tv/PS3. =\
    Thanks, as said we're not going to agree on everything, so that's why we're making different versions.

    We can just make different AVIs or even MP4s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lia View Post
    THANK YOU! That's pure AWESOMENESS! (It's extraordinarily incredible how better the original Passionate Duelist fits Yugi's turn!)
    There's only one thing that bugs me about the Fifth Scene Change a.k.a. Test 4 - Passionate Duelist that starts at 3:45 may be should end exactly at 4:09 (right after the protagonists' life counter appears and before the scene with Daitokuji and Pharaoh on the roof at 4:10) so there to be short silence while Daitokuji says his sentence.
    I'll have to listen all videos more in details when I have time, but no matter what comments I'll have on them, they really sound better than in the original version of the movie and I think I agree with almost all choices. Still can't realize why those making the movie would neglect such amazing DM tracks. These versions should be literally thrown in their faces so to see how true fans are doin' it! x)
    You're probably right about this. Just needs to be shortened a bit more, but Lance can handle that I think.

    Will probably do one version with insert songs used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenUmi View Post
    For this, I actually agree with you. This is one of the few times an idea in my head didn't come out the way I was hoping. It's a great track, but I don't think it fit here. I'd be fine with us swapping it out for something else.

    Glad you liked Wicked Grudge, though. I thought that part at least worked well.
    Yeah, your wicked grudge choice was awesome. But I'm not sure what else I could use to replace the Millennium Kingdom track. Honestly the opening theme for me is fine so my mind hasn't really thought much in regards to what theme to put there. I'll have to get back to you on that one XD

    But I think you're onto something with Wicked Grudge's placement. Very good choice. It playing right when Stardust Dragon appeared was epic.


    I was surprised they didn't include this anywhere in the movie, to be honest. I'm glad you guys approve on this, because I think it fits the scene well. Lance may shorten it a bit more so it doesn't leak into the Judai scene, but I think it worked well overall. We could also start it earlier, but I think it wouldn't fit playing until they see Stardust.
    Yeah, this is one theme I'd definitely like to incorporate into my version XD

    To be honest, most GX tracks (aside from the few that kickass) I'm not too fond of. I just chose the first one out of the blue, so I am open to any ideas you all have for this. I think Lance had an idea for the face-off between the two.

    The second track was one of the tracks Lance suggested, forget the name. I think it's called "jealousy", but I may be mixing them up. I think it worked a bit better than the one they used, even if I liked that one too.
    Ahh okay. Well I can't wait to see what you and Lance come up with. I did too prefer the Jealousy track as well.


    Yeah, it worked well over all. I too thought it was a bit odd having it leak over Paradox's speech. I just couldn't figure out how to shorten it anymore, lol, but maybe Lance can do the trick. It's hard for me to cut down pieces of a music track that's really good, because I like the entire thing usually and I get mad at having to lose certain pieces.
    I understand, hopefully Lance can figure it out, hehe.


    Lance actually tipped me off to this idea, so kudos to him. Well, he didn't mention where to use it. I just thought here would work pretty well, so glad you approve.
    Yeah, that's a pretty beast incorporation Lance. I'd also love for this one to be incorporated too.


    Hey, I love Showdown as well, but I just wanted to try some different things out in these different versions.

    FYI, the track I used in this scene was an unreleased track that always played during scenes with Placido, Lucciano and Jose (and later Aporia) so we dubbed it "The Three Emperors of Yliaster". This is one of the few unreleased tracks I did that came out so well I actually used it in a project like this. And I think it fits the eery feeling between them all.
    Oooooh, wow. Interesting. Neat choice indeed. I'm more partial to Showdown, but you incorporating an unreleased track like that, especially one that sounds so good is very creative and well done.


    This one was "Placido" on the third sound duel. One of the best season 3 pieces we had along with Yliaster Battle Mode before the W.R.G.P. rolled around.
    Yeah, I much prefer this one to the original. I'd love that one to be incorporated in mine too. XD



    The 3.5 minutes I gave you wasn't enough? >;D

    I don't hate the second version as much as you seem to, so I kind of like it being here. Surely it playing for such a small amount of screentime wouldn't bother you THAT much, would it?

    Back to a comment Lance made, I don't think it's any less jarring than how it was done in the original, but that's just me.
    See, I have to adamantly disagree.

    I just... hate the GX remix of Passionate Duelists because it sounds so utterly empty and lazy in terms of its instrumental arrangement and melodic range, at least compared to what was in the original DM anime. For one, I find the synth is just so damn weak. Horoko and I call it the "My First Casio" version because it literally sounds like a kid playing that theme on their first synth keyboard, to us. It just doesn't hold a candle to the original orchestral arrangement that was played with a live string orchestra that captured all the energy, and majesty of such a theme.

    I mean, I hate to be a stickler but I'd really love for the GX remix to completely be replaced in terms of the movie score. The GX remix of that theme is basically, "Diet Passionate Duelists."

    Would you be able to do that at least in mine? I'd be thankful forever and ever XDDD




    I admit this track worked even better than the original.
    I agree. Yes, haha.


    Not to be nitpicky, but this track came first. The "Yusei Fudo" theme, at least to me, sounds a lot better than Yusei Battle. And I think the ending to that theme works well here. We can't agree on everything, so... well yeah, lol.

    That being said, I would so use the Synchro Summon unreleased theme from the first 12 episodes if I had a better rip of it.
    You're right it did, but....I suppose I just prefer that one in terms of him dueling and battling.

    And Synchro Summon? Which track is that?


    While I admit you have a point... don't forget how they shoved it with Dartz, who was no more Egyptian than Paradox is.
    To be honest, I liked that track as much as I did Dartz somehow being present to see the duel the Pharaoh had against Thief King Bakura.

    Which is...not very much

    Even if we remove the second part of this, you have to admit the first 30 seconds or so (the choir chanting part) works well here. We could just use that and maybe use something like Terror as was used originally or maybe even Dark Signer Battle. Or Earthbound God.
    See, I'm more partial to Earthbound God, honestly. XD

    I think that'd fit perfectly. I think it'd be pretty neat.



    Again, this was just to try something different out. I love Judai's theme much better, but... just experimenting here.
    Ahh, that's cool, I see then. ^^



    This was a quickie and the song was too short. It really needs to be looped a bit.
    Ooooohhh. Would you be able to do that?



    Thanks, as said we're not going to agree on everything, so that's why we're making different versions.

    We can just make different AVIs or even MP4s.

    Oh really? Awesome, thank you! That'd be perfect. I'm really curious to see your version too. I know I'm gonna at least be downloading two copies of this movie, mine and then yours.

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