Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Speaking of cards from the OVA, I'm feeling rather disappointed we seem to have gotten the last bit of cards for this special. I don't think we'll be getting Yugi's new Dark Magician support cards, or Yusei's Junk Gardna either.

Which is a shame. I would have loved to get all those cards, just to say I had them.

And I definitely doubt we'll be getting Sin Cyber End or Sin Rainbow Dragon, as well. Considering how utterly boss and broken they are.

It also would've been nice to have gotten some other cards from the Sin archetype to make it all come together as a theme, not just a bunch of beatsticks with mediocre effects and debilitating side effects.

The cards from this movie would've made a wonderful limited edition or premium pack.

In fact, according the previews, I expected to see more monsters.

A structure deck of the Sin deck would have also been excellent. It seems me the better way to get them quickly. I think I can continue to dream ^^

It really does. S Sin structure Deck would be way better than them as random promos.

If the movie come out this summer, we would know about it. Sorry, but we have June.
Beside this, I have nothing of a cinema release in the US, because I'm from Germany. Moreover, even when it comes to Germany, the german dub are more horrible then a fandub, so I prefer the original.

I'm pretty sure everyone will love the original more. And it's hard to say when we'll get it, I know. All we can do is wait.

[Heather]

I prefer the original.

Me too but at this moment in time I will take whatever is thrown at me!! Even if that means it is 4Kids dubbed offering. Sad but true.

[Quitus]

Me too for god sake can�t wait i hope it�s realeased before Christmas. the thing about 26 july, was just a rumour (i read someone told it before) or it�s for real?

[GoldenUmi]

Yeah, this won't come out until October at the earliest. Things come up online for preorder 3 to 4 months in advance, so it would be up by now if it was coming out in the summer.

[63cohen]

Yeah, this won't come out until October at the earliest. Things come up online for preorder 3 to 4 months in advance, so it would be up by now if it was coming out in the summer.

Perhaps we could get some type of airing in America on TV though.

[GoldenUmi]

Perhaps we could get some type of airing in America on TV though.

Considering I have no interest in the dub for this, that won't do me any good. But I suppose it'd make some of the fans happy.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Considering I have no interest in the dub for this, that won't do me any good. But I suppose it'd make some of the fans happy.

I agree with my neighbour to the South here. It might please some fans, but only the original would satisfy me.

[Lia]

But I suppose it'd make some of the fans happy.

Neither happy nor completely satisfied..........it'll only gratify my curiosity about how BAD and hilarious the dub will be. xD But I have to admit I'm impatient to see the gorgeous animation. x)

[Allana]

Neither happy nor completely satisfied..........it'll only gratify my curiosity about how BAD and hilarious the dub will be. xD But I have to admit I'm impatient to see the gorgeous animation. x)

I hope the dub will be closer to the original. I hope 4kids will keep the original scripts and not include inventions like Yusei who knows already Ushio in the first dub episode when It's completly wrong and unless.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I hope the dub will be closer to the original. I hope 4kids will keep the original scripts and not include inventions like Yusei who knows already Ushio in the first dub episode when It's completely wrong and useless.

Or make Judai as F-ing stupid as he was during GX. And Yubel's gonna sound terrible as a supporting protagonist with that Children of the Corn voice.

[Makoeyes987]

Or make Judai as F-ing stupid as he was during GX. And Yubel's gonna sound terrible as a supporting protagonist with that Children of the Corn voice.

Judai was a special type of moron in the dub, LOL. Oh man, he had some hilariously stupid lines.

I love your description of Yubel's dub voice though. ROFFL.

Although tbh, I never had that much of a problem with Yubel's dub voice. It wasn't the voice itself. It was the actual delivery and lack of expression and acting range. It just felt like someone reading the lines in a weird, childish voice. There was no real emotion behind it.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Judai was a special type of moron in the dub, LOL. Oh man, he had some hilariously stupid lines.

"Be careful Jaden. I hear Axel is Viper's Protege."
"What's a Protege? Is it a car?"

You mean like that one?

I love your description of Yubel's dub voice though. ROFFL.

Although tbh, I never had that much of a problem with Yubel's dub voice. It wasn't the voice itself. It was the actual delivery and lack of expression and acting range. It just felt like someone reading the lines in a weird, childish voice. There was no real emotion behind it.

The lack of emotion CAN be done; but only if you can make the character into a psychopath or sociopath. That's not what Yubel became. I'm disappointed that a fellow Canadian did so poorly (Priscilla Everett was born in BC). That, and the sound effects created errors in communication the discussion about Yubel saying "But instead, you fight" vs "you f---", for example.

The biggest screw-up with her voice, though, was her past voice. In Japan, you can tell it's Hiromi Tsuru talking (that's why I say 'female'). Why 4Kids gave Marc Thompson, one of the most masculine-sounding VA's in their staff, the job, is beyond me. They inadvertently made Yubel into a transsexual, and made Judai gay, in attempt to eliminate a reference to hermaphroditism. Way to go, 4Kids.

[Lia]

I hope the dub will be closer to the original.

I don't think this will happen, but....we'll see. x)

[Makoeyes987]

"Be careful Jaden. I hear Axel is Viper's Protege."
"What's a Protege? Is it a car?"

You mean like that one?

ROTFL, yes. Like that. Wtf? It's like Judai suffered a head injury.

The lack of emotion CAN be done; but only if you can make the character into a psychopath or sociopath. That's not what Yubel became. I'm disappointed that a fellow Canadian did so poorly (Priscilla Everett was born in BC). That, and the sound effects created errors in communication the discussion about Yubel saying "But instead, you fight" vs "you f---", for example.

Yeah, Yubel is very emotional. Emotional to the point of insanity. She's certainly not cold or without expression. Which is why her dub portrayal annoyed me. LOL, the inadvertent swearing however was amusing.

The biggest screw-up with her voice, though, was her past voice. In Japan, you can tell it's Hiromi Tsuru talking (that's why I say 'female'). Why 4Kids gave Marc Thompson, one of the most masculine-sounding VA's in their staff, the job, is beyond me. They inadvertently made Yubel into a transsexual, and made Judai gay, in attempt to eliminate a reference to hermaphroditism. Way to go, 4Kids.

Well Yubel alternated from a feminine voice, to a masculine voice when angry or trying to be intimidating or scary. Furthermore, Yubel always referred to itself with a male pronoun. Boku to be exact. Its heavily hinted that Yubel was a boy before being transformed into a female dragon creature demon. Whether or not Yubel has both parts now is well...something only Judai could tell us.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

ROTFL, yes. Like that. Wtf? It's like Judai suffered a head injury.

I know. I have no idea why they felt it necessary to have Matthew Charles say that.

Yeah, Yubel is very emotional. Emotional to the point of insanity. She's certainly not cold or without expression. Which is why her dub portrayal annoyed me. LOL, the inadvertent swearing however was amusing.

Again, it's sad; the character had so much potential.

Well Yubel alternated from a feminine voice, to a masculine voice when angry or trying to be intimidating or scary. Furthermore, Yubel always referred to itself with a male pronoun. Boku to be exact. Its heavily hinted that Yubel was a boy before being transformed into a female dragon creature demon. Whether or not Yubel has both parts now is well...something only Judai could tell us.

I am aware of that. However, keep in mind she only uses the male voice while influenced by the Light. With how deep it is, it would almost seem the Light itself created that voice. I can't prove it, but it is possible. Secondly, there are females who use "Boku", however few; and on the topic, if Yubel truly was from that long ago, she would likely use "Ware" anyway.

And well, there are some things that it's best not to find out...

[Makoeyes987]

I know. I have no idea why they felt it necessary to have Matthew Charles say that.

Probably thought it was funny. Which, while it was, was at the expense of the character.

I am aware of that. However, keep in mind she only uses the male voice while influenced by the Light. With how deep it is, it would almost seem the Light itself created that voice. I can't prove it, but it is possible. Secondly, there are females who use "Boku", however few; and on the topic, if Yubel truly was from that long ago, she would likely use "Ware" anyway.

Well Yubel wouldn't have to use ware if Yubel didn't feel like it suited itself. The fact Yubel still chooses to use boku, a young male personal pronoun seems to indicate what it thinks of itself. Also, the fact Yubel has one boob and one male pectoral seems to indicate Yubel has the gender aspects of both. I'd say that since Yubel originally looked like a young boy before its transformation, and used the boku pronoun as a human and still does now..its likely Yubel originated as a boy and was made both.

And well, there are some things that it's best not to find out...

LOL but true love transcends space, time, card games and even genders!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Probably thought it was funny. Which, while it was, was at the expense of the character.

In case this needs pointing out, it isn't. It's just f-ing stupid.

Well Yubel wouldn't have to use ware if Yubel didn't feel like it suited itself. The fact Yubel still chooses to use boku, a young male personal pronoun seems to indicate what it thinks of itself. Also, the fact Yubel has one boob and one male pectoral seems to indicate Yubel has the gender aspects of both. I'd say that since Yubel originally looked like a young boy before its transformation, and used the boku pronoun as a human and still does now..its likely Yubel originated as a boy and was made both.

Pronoun is personal choice, it's true; but that can work against your argument as well. Characters in anime have wildly varying pronouns; and there are females who use Boku. Rei does, for example, even after she stops cross-dressing.

LOL but true love transcends space, time, card games, card games on motorcycles and even genders!

[Makoeyes987]

In case this needs pointing out, it isn't. It's just f-ing stupid.

ROFFL, agreed.

Pronoun is personal choice, it's true; but that can work against your argument as well. Characters in anime have wildly varying pronouns; and there are females who use Boku. Rei does, for example, even after she stops cross-dressing.

Well that's why I think Yubel's both. Yubel clearly has feminine characteristics and features now. But as a human, Yubel looks a lot more boyish. I hesitate to say Yubel is a full female now because Yubel only has one boob XD

[soroam]

"And here I thought there was a new meaningful post of information or news about the OVA." But there's only people discussing off-topic wether Yubel is male or female.

Just throwing that out there.


On topic: Why there's so many people saying that the movie is coming on July 23, that date is everywhere but there's not a single source.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Well that's why I think Yubel's both. Yubel clearly has feminine characteristics and features now. But as a human, Yubel looks a lot more boyish. I hesitate to say Yubel is a full female now because Yubel only has one boob XD

You and I will just have to agree to disagree. Both our arguments have merit, and we stick to our guns.

Oh, and on the "one boob" comment; I know lots of girls with uneven racks. Granted not to this extremity, but still...

[Allana]

"And here I thought there was a new meaningful post of information or news about the OVA." But there's only people discussing off-topic wether Yubel is male or female.

Just throwing that out there.


On topic: Why there's so many people saying that the movie is coming on July 23, that date is everywhere but there's not a single source.

Who said this and when? This date is probably a fake informaton someone had invented and people believed it was true. For the moment, there no official date of the release of the 10th Anniversary DVD.

[Arynis]

Alright, I FINALLY managed to backtrack every single post I missed during my absence. XD You guys are productive as ever.

Anyway, let's clear up a few things first.

DVD release date

Unfortunately, there's absolutely no information at all. I'm sorry, guys. I have checked several blogs, lurked at Nintendo World BBS, lurked the 2CH movie thread, Googled for DVD information. But no, everyone (and I mean even the Japanese) is asking the same question over and over again with little success. The closest thing I found was a post on 2CH posting information about the DVDs, but it's very likely fake - it claims the movie is 40 minute long (the real movie is 49 minutes long) and the promo cards are different for the DVD / Blue-Ray versions. So yeah.

I am afraid we will just have to wait more. Sorry.

Dub movie release date being July 23

The only source I found for this was Wikipedia and the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia (with no citations, I may add). I checked the Toonzone 4kids thread, and even the people over there were skeptical about it. Besides, if that were true, would not we have 4kids advertising it all over? I recall Pyramid of Light being pretty hyped up. Trailers, promotional article in Shonen Jump and possibly other magazines. If we were truly 3 weeks away from the real thing, don't you think they would have done something already? But it's quiet. Too quiet...

All we know is that 4kids is working on the movie. That's it.

Staff interviews, interviews with the voice actors, etc.

People have been discussing how cool it would be to include these on the DVD. The thing is, there are already interviews. The movie's official site hosts an interview with all four voice actors (Kazama, Miyashita, KENN, Tamura). The 10th Anniversary Animation Book contains an interview with the staff members, including Yoshida Shin and Junki Takegami. It again contains an interview with all four voice actors, and there's the Takahashi interview me and Remaner more or less covered.

However, all material is in Japanese. I will confess I know very little Japanese, pretty much what I learned from watching subbed anime. I do not know grammar at all. All I have is a few dictionaries at my disposal. Remaner studies Japanese, but she has still got to learn. We both own the Animation Book, we can type down everything as it is in Japanese, and then make an attempt at translating it. Please understand that we are not good at this. All we can do is make it sound a bit more coherent than your usual Google Translate translation. That's all we can go for, but no more. We are no professionals. If anyone thinks they can lend a hand, please do so. But whether anyone wants to help out or not is up to them entirely. But if no one is going to come to aid, I am afraid our sub-par translation is all you will have.

Inaccuracies in the movie summary

First and foremost, I am aware of the duel errors in the summary - I have noted this in the beginning of that post. In the end, I didn't know what source was correct, so I just gave up on fixing it. Sorry, I'm lazy. XD

As for errors in the summary itself, Heleentje translated the original Chinese summary posted by XYZ Dragon Cannon months ago, back when it was first posted. Naturally, with Heleen being a Chinese student, her knowledge has improved since. I have asked her if she is up for a re-translation, but it's entirely up to her. I'm not going to force it on her if she doesn't want to do so.

Alternate OPs/EDs removed from Youtube

I have seen that False Memories' account has been suspended, but Makoeyes has supplied us with a download. I can include that in my first post instead of the video links if it's not against the rules. (Because as far as I know, downloadable material is prohibited outside the download forum, isn't it? Just making sure.) If it is, I can go find Youtube links again.

Notice about the Official 10th Anniversary Yu-Gi-Oh! Movie website (yugioh10th.com)

I have stated in this thread earlier that the domain would expire on the 7th of July. However, it appears the registration has been recently renewed:

Domain Handle: None
Domain Name: yugioh10th.com
Created On: 2009-07-06 13:17:01.0
Last Updated On: 2010-06-29 15:06:50.0
Expiration Date: 2011-07-06 04:17:01.0
Status: ACTIVE
Registrant Name: Yujin Nishino
Registrant Organization: TV TOKYO Entertainment,Inc.
Registrant Street1: 4-2-3, Toranomon
Registrant Street2: Toranomon Tosei BLD. 3F
Registrant City: Minato-ku
Registrant State: Tokyo
Registrant Postal Code: 105-0001
Registrant Country: JP
Registrant Phone: 03-5733-3745
Registrant Fax: 03-5733-3889
Registrant Email:

No idea if it means anything, or if they are just keeping the site around. The site is the same as it was back in February - no new updates on the site itself at all.

[NeoArkadia]

I might be wrong and this might of been disproven, but wasn't it noted, unless I've gone mad, that the Movie's DVD is planned to be released in a mass joint release with 4kid's version? And isn't 4kids stating they won't have anything really new available until 2011?

[Arynis]

I might be wrong and this might of been disproven, but wasn't it noted, unless I've gone mad, that the Movie's DVD is planned to be released in a mass joint release with 4kid's version? And isn't 4kids stating they won't have anything really new available until 2011?

Hmm, I haven't heard about that. The most recent thing I have seen regarding 4kids was that report in which they mentioned they acquired the movie... albeit that was rather long ago.

Although, if Horoko's sources are true on the DVD not coming out in this year, it would correlate with your findings. If the DVD is released with the international version, and the DVD doesn't come out in this year, and supposedly 4kids doesn't have anything new until 2011... Hmm.

But I'm just making a guess here.

[63cohen]

I might be wrong and this might of been disproven, but wasn't it noted, unless I've gone mad, that the Movie's DVD is planned to be released in a mass joint release with 4kid's version? And isn't 4kids stating they won't have anything really new available until 2011?

I think I heard something about that over at ToonZone, but since I got temp banned, I have no way to question anymore. Also, I do not think 4kids would just let their properties sit for 4 or more months without any premiers. After August is Fall, the big time league in TV broadcast. Anything can happen, and 4kids could change their mind about premiering shows.

From what I remember, 4kids said new episodes of 5Ds would be available Q1 of 2011, and newer shows Q2 2011. DBZ Kai will be available for broadcast by Q4 2010, which is the closest thing to new until Fall is over. That is if 4kids doesn't change their minds about switching over to DM again August 14.

[Lia]

Inaccuracies in the movie summary

First and foremost, I am aware of the duel errors in the summary - I have noted this in the beginning of that post. In the end, I didn't know what source was correct, so I just gave up on fixing it. Sorry, I'm lazy. XD

As for errors in the summary itself, Heleentje translated the original Chinese summary posted by XYZ Dragon Cannon months ago, back when it was first posted. Naturally, with Heleen being a Chinese student, her knowledge has improved since. I have asked her if she is up for a re-translation, but it's entirely up to her. I'm not going to force it on her if she doesn't want to do so.

Well, there was some incomprehension about Paradox's words when meeting the 3 protagonists for the first time. Heleentje have translated Paradox's line being "Ah... The kings of duel have all assembled", but Mako said not so long ago that this was mistranslation and Paradox really stated "Ahh...the King of duelists has joined as well." You have to agree that there's a big difference in the meaning. But Heleentje have done enough and wonderful work by translating the entire XWZ's movie summary, so even if there're some mistranslations, I don't consider this as a big deal at all. I can wait untill the DVD release when we'll have the exact translation.

Alternate OPs/EDs removed from Youtube

I have seen that False Memories' account has been suspended, but Makoeyes has supplied us with a download. I can include that in my first post instead of the video links if it's not against the rules. (Because as far as I know, downloadable material is prohibited outside the download forum, isn't it? Just making sure.) If it is, I can go find Youtube links again.

I don't think there'll be a problem since there're MU links in threads that aren't included in DL section of the forum. Not to mention that these HD videos are nobody's property and noone of us have made or taken them. So there's no problem to add Mako's link in the main page.

Notice about the Official 10th Anniversary Yu-Gi-Oh! Movie website (yugioh10th.com)

I have stated in this thread earlier that the domain would expire on the 7th of July. However, it appears the registration has been recently renewed:

Domain Handle: None
Domain Name: yugioh10th.com
Created On: 2009-07-06 13:17:01.0
Last Updated On: 2010-06-29 15:06:50.0
Expiration Date: 2011-07-06 04:17:01.0
Status: ACTIVE
Registrant Name: Yujin Nishino
Registrant Organization: TV TOKYO Entertainment,Inc.
Registrant Street1: 4-2-3, Toranomon
Registrant Street2: Toranomon Tosei BLD. 3F
Registrant City: Minato-ku
Registrant State: Tokyo
Registrant Postal Code: 105-0001
Registrant Country: JP
Registrant Phone: 03-5733-3745
Registrant Fax: 03-5733-3889
Registrant Email:

No idea if it means anything, or if they are just keeping the site around. The site is the same as it was back in February - no new updates on the site itself at all.

Well, I don't think they will make an effort to prolong the Expiration Date if they don't have an intention to update the website in future. I only hope some major update will appear there soon.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hmm, I haven't heard about that. The most recent thing I have seen regarding 4kids was that report in which they mentioned they acquired the movie... albeit that was rather long ago.

Although, if Horoko's sources are true on the DVD not coming out in this year, it would correlate with your findings. If the DVD is released with the international version, and the DVD doesn't come out in this year, and supposedly 4kids doesn't have anything new until 2011... Hmm.

But I'm just making a guess here.

I certainly hope that the movie becomes within our grasp before then - but if we must wait that long, we will.

Welcome back BTW.

[63cohen]

Neither happy nor completely satisfied..........it'll only gratify my curiosity about how BAD and hilarious the dub will be. xD But I have to admit I'm impatient to see the gorgeous animation. x)

I wouldn't knock them until you see it. 4kids has provided excellent dubs of anime movies before, why thrash something now?

[Heather]

I wouldn't knock them until you see it. 4kids has provided excellent dubs of anime movies before, why thrash something now?

Well, regardless of what 4Kids do the dub I will go and see the film just to see it in 3D and then wait for the Japanese DVD to watch it properly. I wonder if anything else will be tagged onto the showing as the film is really short by todays standards and it costs about �1.50 more to see a 3D movie rather than a 2D one.

[Arynis]

Oh, everyone. Heleentje agreed to re-translate the Chinese summary, so we'll be going through it sometime!

~

While I am aware that the Tenors' future/Paradox's future has been touched on before, there's been something bugging me since watching episode 110 of 5D's.

So Jose was discussing about the future. Yes, it's true that we do not know anything about the Tenors' future, but wouldn't Yusei start thinking about Jose's speech after hearing Paradox's speech, if just for the "changing the future" bit? Illiaster's and Paradox's methods do differ and we don't even know what is Illiaster's future is like, or if they come from the same future. It is true that we don't know about the Tenors' time travel capabilities, but didn't Jose mention they "were able to come into this time and create a new plan"? That seems to imply that some kind of travel -- dimensional or time -- was involved.

If the movie really did happen pre-WRGP, wouldn't Yusei at least start putting things together? If the movie happened post-WRGP, it would cause problems regarding Yusei's reaction to Paradox.

Did Yusei actually meet Paradox? Did the events of the movie indeed happen? Or the writers are just purposefully beating around the bush, not letting on anything just to make people write posts like this? XD

I'm wondering if the movie went through a Ret Gone somehow. Like Yusei and co. doing something in the near future to alter the events of the distant future. Or alternately, Illiaster's interference with the recent events resulted in a change. (Or both parties were equally responsible.) It means that Paradox wouldn't do what we saw him do in the movie, but something else, and that's how he will be involved in 5D's? And thus Paradox never actually travel back to steal Stardust Dragon, and Yusei never traveled back... thus, he doesn't "remember" anything because there was nothing to remember for in the first place!

In a nutshell, the movie did indeed happen... then it "didn't".

Either way, the issue made me draw this comic, whether it is right or not. I did it just for fun. XD

Spoiler: Picture size

[Makoeyes987]

I wouldn't think too much of that. This is NAS, who has a bad habit of writing crapily and just throwing past events and instances onto the bus whenever they want to or feel like it. See Rally, Jack Atlus and Carly's relationship, Aki being shunned and feared by everyone in Neo Domino, etc.

It's not that it didn't happen, its just...NAS has as much writing skills as a monkey on Red Bull and coke.

[Arynis]

I wouldn't think too much of that. This is NAS, who has a bad habit of writing crapily and just throwing past events and instances onto the bus whenever they want to or feel like it. See Rally, Jack Atlus and Carly's relationship, Aki being shunned and feared by everyone in Neo Domino, etc.

It's not that it didn't happen, its just...NAS has as much writing skills as a monkey on Red Bull and coke.

Ahahaha, "monkey on Red Bull and coke". XD

Yeah, that might just be it, sadly. Sometimes it annoys me, because the writers research their alchemy and mythology stuff so meticulously and so well it makes geeks squee. Which means they are capable of doing great things, if they spent so much time on researching... or they are total geeks trying outgeek each other every episode. XD (Except Quetzalcoatl. That is not related to Nazca or Incan myths. Nice Job Breaking It Writer, whoever wrote those two episodes.)

And Yoshida Shin even said Paradox is connected to 5D's. Damnit, man. Although if it means reintroducing Paradox into the series under different circumstances and we may be finally about to learn more about him, I won't complain.

[Makoeyes987]

I just don't see Paradox appearing in regards to this arc. In another one sure, but this one seems squarely focused on Yliaster and I don't see him fitting or getting mentioned.

And yeah, they do their research and can impress with their details, but on the flip side they also can go mind numbingly stupid in terms of their writing and just make you wonder if they even bother reading over the stuff they write and crap.

NAS has a horrible tendency to just brush crap off and pretend it never happened, for the convenience and ease of the plot's progression. So I wouldn't really take it too seriously. They had Yusei forget he had Turbo Warrior and Junk Archer just for the sake of making Yusei angst and nightmare over a synchro eating Machine Emperor he already beat the first time. Roffl. XD

[Arynis]

I just don't see Paradox appearing in regards to this arc. In another one sure, but this one seems squarely focused on Yliaster and I don't see him fitting or getting mentioned.

Yeah, that's true. Although I like to pretend Paradox would suddenly come in and try to take down Illiaster. Partly because Doctor Who makes me think Paradox is a Time Lord, Illiaster is a race of Time Lords, and then he must do away the rest of the (by this point) corrupted Time Lords to stop messing up time and history already and bring forth the END OF TIME! It doesn't help that the planet at the end of the current 5D's OP looks like freaking Gallifrey, the planet of the Time Lords. And according to V-Jump, the Signers feel that things are going off the rails soon. Very, very soon.

But Paradox taking the star role from everyone just to do away the arc's antagonists? Nah, that's something that would never ever happen, sadly. XD It would make Paradox look the savior he always wanted to be, though.

And yeah, they do their research and can impress with their details, but on the flip side they also can go mind numbingly stupid in terms of their writing and just make you wonder if they even bother reading over the stuff they write and crap.

True... then there's when their references seem to tie the plot together somehow, such as Amnael's Philosopher's Stone - Sabathiel card being a possible foreshadowing to Darkness in GX. But people just dismiss it because it's obscure or it's just an interpretation. Granted, it means not much people might get it (and I agree that making the references too subtle in some cases was bad - 5D's is somewhat better with the subtlety issue), but it would be still some kind of a saving throw in regards to the seemingly bad writing.

Then there's when not even symbolism helps. I'm looking at you, Episode 28 of DM.

NAS has a horrible tendency to just brush crap off and pretend it never happened, for the convenience and ease of the plot's progression. So I wouldn't really take it too seriously. They had Yusei forget he had Turbo Warrior and Junk Archer just for the sake of making Yusei angst and nightmare over a synchro eating Machine Emperor he already beat the first time. Roffl. XD

Fffff, true. Well, at least it proved to be amusing for us, right? XD *shot*

[Makoeyes987]

Yeah, that's true. Although I like to pretend Paradox would suddenly come in and try to take down Illiaster. Partly because Doctor Who makes me think Paradox is a Time Lord, Illiaster is a race of Time Lords, and then he must do away the rest of the (by this point) corrupted Time Lords to stop messing up time and history already and bring forth the END OF TIME! It doesn't help that the planet at the end of the current 5D's OP looks like freaking Gallifrey, the planet of the Time Lords. And according to V-Jump, the Signers feel that things are going off the rails soon. Very, very soon.

He'd certainly be more interesting than the random ass androids that came from nowhere with their cards from space and all.

But Paradox taking the star role from everyone just to do away the arc's antagonists? Nah, that's something that would never ever happen, sadly. XD It would make Paradox look the savior he always wanted to be, though.

We wouldn't be so lucky, unfortunately.

True... then there's when their references seem to tie the plot together somehow, such as Amnael's Philosopher's Stone - Sabathiel card being a possible foreshadowing to Darkness in GX. But people just dismiss it because it's obscure or it's just an interpretation. Granted, it means not much people might get it (and I agree that making the references too subtle in some cases was bad - 5D's is somewhat better with the subtlety issue), but it would be still some kind of a saving throw in regards to the seemingly bad writing.

I'd believe it were that planned out if Darkness didn't literally just spring out of nowhere. Season 4 had so many antagonists vying for the spot of main bad guy that it just looked like a mess. We went from Trueman, to Fujiwara, and then to Darkness. It was like a cracked out relay race. None of them got enough development or explanation. If they did plan all that out, then the execution suffered horribly because it felt like they were rushing and unsure of which new villain would stick and be appropriate. I never liked Darkness, because we already had two main villains who served his purpose succinctly already. Trueman was a much more sinister and relevant villain considering the whole "cards of darkness" theme they had going on. THEN when they DO choose to introduce Darkness again, Fujiwara as the harbinger of the World of Darkness was more than appropriate. It just....it was so random.

If Goat-Headed Darkness was the main bad guy all along, they surely should've been a bit more direct about it.

Then there's when not even symbolism helps. I'm looking at you, Episode 28 of DM.

Which episode was that again?

Fffff, true. Well, at least it proved to be amusing for us, right? XD *shot*

Well, it did and it didn't. The duel against Placido and Yusei where Yusei curbstomped him had some awesome moments, such as when he got Clear Mind the first time. But then there were just...moments that weren't so awesome. And the duel came to an end WAY too fast. It was just like...once he got Shooting Star Dragon...it was over. Like...Placido just got murdered.

[Lia]

[FONT="Tahoma"]Oh, everyone. Heleentje agreed to re-translate the Chinese summary, so we'll be going through it sometime!

Well, I'm glad to hear that, but I hope the retranslation won't burden her too much.

[Arynis]

He'd certainly be more interesting than the random ass androids that came from nowhere with their cards from space and all.

FFF, "random ass androids". XD But yeah, even Paradox seems more interesting at this point. If you just take the movie itself (and disregard the recent developments in 5D's), you'd get an interesting dilemma. It also makes the protagonists look much darker. Paradox wants to save the future from the destruction of Duel Monsters, but killing Paradox means there's no way of saving the future. There's a reason Paradox must have claimed the protagonists' "we can change the future" mentality as nonsense. But Paradox's methods of killing everyone is also questionable. But hey, when the entire Earth's population depends on it... Essentially a Grey and Gray Morality. It's also the ultimate Deconstruction of Duel Monsters. That's why I like Paradox so much.

I'd believe it were that planned out if Darkness didn't literally just spring out of nowhere. Season 4 had so many antagonists vying for the spot of main bad guy that it just looked like a mess. We went from Trueman, to Fujiwara, and then to Darkness. It was like a cracked out relay race. None of them got enough development or explanation. If they did plan all that out, then the execution suffered horribly because it felt like they were rushing and unsure of which new villain would stick and be appropriate. I never liked Darkness, because we already had two main villains who served his purpose succinctly already. Trueman was a much more sinister and relevant villain considering the whole "cards of darkness" theme they had going on. THEN when they DO choose to introduce Darkness again, Fujiwara as the harbinger of the World of Darkness was more than appropriate. It just....it was so random.

If Goat-Headed Darkness was the main bad guy all along, they surely should've been a bit more direct about it.

Yeah, that's what I meant by subtlety. There's no way to tell if it was intended or not, sadly. I still respect Poet and his interpretations, it makes the series way more interesting. In my eyes, anyway. Although the whole Tarot deal in Season 2 was quite blatant, on the other hand. It's also a nice throwback to Duel Monsters where Ishizu mentions how Tarot Cards were created from the Book of Thoth.

Thinking about the last season, it was much shorter than GX's other arcs (only 24 episodes compared to 52), so the execution may have suffered for that very reason.

But yeah, I see what you mean.

Which episode was that again?

The one where Anzu, Honda and Bakura investigated Pegasus' incredibly tall and slender sanctuary to find out how Pegasus cheated during the Kaiba duel. And mysterious portraits everyhwere! And floor turning into wine! And the gang ending up in some weird Egyptian room! And Yugi witnessing everyone on burning crosses! And churches! And oh, it was all a dream.

That episode was so random that even Poet couldn't add anything. You know it's bad when not even he has an idea, lolol. XD

At least it made Cyndia look like some badass entity which required sacrifices (the person burning who lost the tablet duel versus Pegasus) and a group of chanting people. Awesome.

Well, it did and it didn't. The duel against Placido and Yusei where Yusei curbstomped him had some awesome moments, such as when he got Clear Mind the first time. But then there were just...moments that weren't so awesome. And the duel came to an end WAY too fast. It was just like...once he got Shooting Star Dragon...it was over. Like...Placido just got murdered.

Hmm, indeed. But Placido was totally asking for it, after trolling Yusei left and right. XD

Well, I'm glad to hear that, but I hope the retranslation won't burden her too much.

Her Chinese should be better than before, so hopefully it will be done faster and more smoothly this time around. =D

[Allana]

He'd certainly be more interesting than the random ass androids that came from nowhere with their cards from space and all.



I'd believe it were that planned out if Darkness didn't literally just spring out of nowhere. Season 4 had so many antagonists vying for the spot of main bad guy that it just looked like a mess. We went from Trueman, to Fujiwara, and then to Darkness. It was like a cracked out relay race. None of them got enough development or explanation. If they did plan all that out, then the execution suffered horribly because it felt like they were rushing and unsure of which new villain would stick and be appropriate. I never liked Darkness, because we already had two main villains who served his purpose succinctly already. Trueman was a much more sinister and relevant villain considering the whole "cards of darkness" theme they had going on. THEN when they DO choose to introduce Darkness again, Fujiwara as the harbinger of the World of Darkness was more than appropriate. It just....it was so random.

If Goat-Headed Darkness was the main bad guy all along, they surely should've been a bit more direct about it.

I think Fujiwara had got a good background explanation. Trueman was execellent, saying himself he is appared because of the Darkness in the heart of peoples.

In my opinion, Darkness was created to be a equivalent of Zork: a big vilain unexpected who appears just at the end. I liked a lot the duel against Darkness. He had suggested the Fate is the reason of all: It's the fate If Pegasus discover Duel Monsters, the fate If all events after are happened. So, Cyndia was destined to die, leading the creation of Duel Monsters, the Signers was destined to appear... He said there a Road of Fate.

Which episode was that again?

Well, it did and it didn't. The duel against Placido and Yusei where Yusei curbstomped him had some awesome moments, such as when he got Clear Mind the first time. But then there were just...moments that weren't so awesome. And the duel came to an end WAY too fast. It was just like...once he got Shooting Star Dragon...it was over. Like...Placido just got murdered.

I think the duel was not bad. I never undertood why Placido hasn't Speed Spells. That's odd. Since Placido come back in 117, I guess he is went in a repair shop.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I think Fujiwara had got a good background explanation. Trueman was execellent, saying himself he is appared because of the Darkness in the heart of peoples.

In my opinion, Darkness was created to be a equivalent of Zork: a big vilain unexpected who appears just at the end. I liked a lot the duel against Darkness. He had suggested the Fate is the reason of all: It's the fate If Pegasus discover Duel Monsters, the fate If all events after are happened. So, Cyndia was destined to die, leading the creation of Duel Monsters, the Signers was destined to appear... He said there a Road of Fate.

Fate really is a road which all things walk upon. It's a recurring thing in fiction, fate being written in stone vs carved. Personally, I think both are true; the events will happen, but the outcome is unknown.

I think the duel was not bad. I never understood why Placido hasn't Speed Spells. That's odd. Since Placido come back in 117, I guess he is went in a repair shop.

He's still in the opening, and all 3 were in the shot in 110. His coming back was no surprise.

[Ryusaki]

Having just re-watched all the special 5D's openings with movie clips in, I'm more full of RAEG than ever at the mysteriously slow release of the DVD. I need my fill of glorious mindless rainbow-coloured card game brutality fanservice. I'd also like to send a message to the future 4Kids dub: direct translation + original soundtrack or GTFO & RTJDABA (Release the Japanese DVD and Blu-Ray Already, that second part stands for).

No, I'm afraid I have nothing of interest to contribute.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Having just re-watched all the special 5D's openings with movie clips in, I'm more full of RAEG than ever at the mysteriously slow release of the DVD. I need my fill of glorious mindless rainbow-coloured card game brutality fanservice. I'd also like to send a message to the future 4Kids dub: direct translation + original soundtrack or GTFO & RTJDABA (Release the Japanese DVD and Blu-Ray Already, that second part stands for).

No, I'm afraid I have nothing of interest to contribute.

You know that neither of those things is going to happen.

[Ryusaki]

You know that neither of those things is going to happen.

Yes, hence the GTFO & RTJDABA.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yes, hence the GTFO & RTJDABA.

That probably should have happened earlier. From my understanding, Funimation had the rights to Yugioh at some point, but 4Kids got them. Since then, many shows have gone to Funimation from there, so why not this one? You'd think Funimation would go, "Well, this is popular with kids; but if done closer to the original, we can get the teenage demographic." Funimation generally has good dubs; some of which are better than the original versions (ie Fullmetal Alchemist).

Man, I wish that would happen. A friend of mine and I discuss at random the idea of Season 2 of 5D's dubbed by them. SO much better... But alas, we know it will never happen.

[Lia]

May be it's about time for us to have some new info for the movie and especially for the DVD.

BBS NewWise - post № 2240 - made by our old friend XWZ.
2CHAN.Net - post № 581

Both showing this new link - http://www37.atwiki.jp/ygo10thmovie/ , which have to contain some info concerning the movie DVD.

I'm not sure what effective help would the online translators render us, but I'll give them a try. If anyone understands something...let's share.

[63cohen]

According to Google Translate, it just says this:

Wang Yu ☆ ☆ jokes - Fusion Super Movie! Summary of the timeless bonds - a wiki.

You can not satisfy you in the theater satisfied,
DVD and TV broadcast can not be helped and look forward to you,
Was created to satisfy the convergence beyond space and time with everyone over.

Bridge until the DVD, please use the summary to leave.

I assume this confirms what Horoko said earlier, waiting for international release "with everyone over".

As for the others, no idea.

[Allana]

May be it's about time for us to have some new info for the movie and especially for the DVD.

BBS NewWise - post № 2240 - made by our old friend XWZ.
2CHAN.Net - post № 581

Both showing this new link - http://www37.atwiki.jp/ygo10thmovie/ , which have to contain some info concerning the movie DVD.

I'm not sure what effective help would the online translators render us, but I'll give them a try. If anyone understands something...let's share.

According the translator I used, XWZ's post is the dialogue between Paradox and protagonists before they start the duel.

[Lia]

According the translator I used, XWZ's post is the dialogue between Paradox and protagonists before they start the duel.

Yes, the capital letters are actually abbreviations of their names.
PR - Paradox
YS - Yusei
YG - Yugi
JD - Judai
The scene is in the moment when the 4 of them meet, shortly before their duel to start.
I think XWZ has given up almost the same version of their dialogue like the one we already have.

[Allana]

Yes, the capital letters are actually abbreviations of their names.
PR - Paradox
YS - Yusei
YG - Yugi
JD - Judai
The scene is in the moment when the 4 of them meet, shortly before their duel to start.
I think XWZ has given up almost the same version of their dialogue that we already have.

Yes, It's almost identical. The traslator isn't entierely accurate. And thanks again to Heleentje to her beaufiful work!

[Arynis]

I had noticed the 2CH post earlier, but I see you got around to posting it first, Lia. I will be adding the Wiki link to the first post. About time the Japanese made something for the movie, since they would be able to reproduce the script/summary more easily.

As for the main page, I got this translation myself:

You satisfied with a theater, you who couldn't be satisfied and you who wait for television televising and a DVD impatiently and have no manners were made with everyone because I was satisfied to fuse very beyond time and space.

Until a DVD goes out, connect and please use it for a summary after I go out.

It seems to be suggesting to rely on the site for summaries until the DVD is released.

Hmm, the dialogue XYZ quoted seems to contain more details than the Chinese summary, but I think it's just because Heleen may have not understood everything clearly. (I recall her mentioning at several parts that the sentence is too difficult to translate.) Yusei calls out Paradox on killing Pegasus and Sugoroku, and he just says it's all trivial. Grade A Time Lord, alright.

[Makoeyes987]

LOL, Paradox...you're such a dick.

Okay, I'm lost. Was that statement on just looking towards the summaries of the movie until there's a DVD release or tv broadcast on the official 10th Anniversary site, or some post on 2ch?

http://www37.atwiki.jp/ygo10thmovie/

And what's this site? What's it saying there?