Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[Allana]

You can look at it as though both Sin Paradox and Sin Truth are part of him. Master, Apprentice, Servant. As you said, Sin Trith is the Master, Sin Paradox would be the Servant, and Paradox himself the apprentice. OR, to get back to the religious connotations, look at the (Un)Holy Trinity: Father, Son, (Un)Holy Spirit

Yes, Sin Paradox Dragon has the same hair than his master. Paradox, the apprentice? Interesting idea. That's suppose If Paradox is the apprentice, he had been chosen by Sin monsters themselves. Or Paradox can have created himself Sin monsters, symbols of all his existence accross them.

I don't think the Trinity can work here: it throw away all others Sin monsters who are also unique in being a corrupt form of several original monsters.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yes, Sin Paradox Dragon has the same hair than his master. Paradox, the apprentice? Interesting idea. That's suppose If Paradox is the apprentice, he had been chosen by Sin monsters themselves. Or Paradox can have created himself Sin monsters, symbols of all his existence across them.

I don't think the Trinity can work here: it throw away all others Sin monsters who are also unique in being a corrupt form of several original monsters.

Think about the origin of Duel Monsters as we know it - back in Ancient Egypt. Monsters were born in people's hearts as a result of turmoil. Paradox knows turmoil better than anyone. Sin Truth likely came from his soul.

As for the Holy Trinity, keep in mind dual symbolism still works. If you overlap my Seven Deadly Sins and Holy Trinity theories, they suddenly form a whole.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

The newest 5D's Episode talks about the ability of Burning Soul, to harness incredible power from the Crimson Devil. This makes 2 abilities to evolve: Burning Soul and Clear Mind. Paradox may have one or both.

Clear Mind makes sense; he can use it in a way that transcends what Yusei can do (instead of Accel Synchro, he can reach the speed necessary to travel through time-space). Burning Soul is more about harnessing physical power. Look at Scar-Red vs. Sin Truth:

-Both are Level 12, DARK Dragons
-Both are related to a Synchro Monster which is also a Dragon
-Both have multiple effects that are of high power
-Both have high physical strength
-Both are enormous
-Both have other-worldly power

This may or may not mean anything, but it's worth discussing.

[Allana]

The newest 5D's Episode talks about the ability of Burning Soul, to harness incredible power from the Crimson Devil. This makes 2 abilities to evolve: Burning Soul and Clear Mind. Paradox may have one or both.

Clear Mind makes sense; he can use it in a way that transcends what Yusei can do (instead of Accel Synchro, he can reach the speed necessary to travel through time-space). Burning Soul is more about harnessing physical power. Look at Scar-Red vs. Sin Truth:

-Both are Level 12, DARK Dragons
-Both are related to a Synchro Monster which is also a Dragon
-Both have multiple effects that are of high power
-Both have high physical strength
-Both are enormous
-Both have other-worldly power

This may or may not mean anything, but it's worth discussing.

Good point! I don't see another point in common between both of them.

There an opposition between Burning Soul and Clear Mind.

Burning Soul means feeling very strongs emotions. Clear Mind means to be quiet, clear in his mind. One is associate to the emotion, other to the serenity.

Accel Synchro is able to go Yusei in a very distant place in some seconds. In that sense, he travel time.


I thought to the Sin concept, It is possible to explain it without religious connotation.

The Sin archetype is used by Paradox. Goes to the idea the sin archetype is an expression of Paradox himself.

In courant language, the word sin exists. The sin is defined as a mistake or do a bad action. Also as commit an offense, a violation. Paradox does a sin when he steals Stardust Dragon. He commits a bad action, a offense. Turn original monsters to Sin monsters can indicate he has got all of them by bad actions.

Technically, do bad action means there a justification, I mean a goal, something the person wants in committing his bad action. Changing the past to save the future means kill a lot of person, firstly Pegasus is a bad action with a precise goal.

There another sense to the sin concept. It can be linked with the word corrupt. It’s because someone had been corrupt by another person or something this person do bad actions, commit sins. So, It is possible to do a sin after have been corrupt. To be corrupt means usually someone or something turns a person to act bad. The destruction of the Earth by Duel Monsters turns Paradox to a bad person in the goal to prevent his destruction.

This word means also change things in the sense upset. Paradox, in his quest to change the past, upset it completely.

It is possible to say Paradox, corrupt by his wishes to save the world, commits sin. Or in another word, blinked by his goal, he do bad actions to get it. All means are goods. The end justifies methods used.

To conclude, the sin means here to be corrupt, do bad actions. It can be noticed than corrupt persons aren’t corrupt all time. Yugi and Judai had been corrupt but they are returned to their other self, like they were before to have corrupted.

[Makoeyes987]

We really must be getting desperate to grasp at straws to connect things now. What's there to discuss between two entirely different characters, using two entirely different monsters, that only have the vaguest of similarities in terms of type and attribute? Their effects, origins, and purpose are wholly dissimilar. This pinning Paradox to anything 5Ds farts out, is getting old.

Allana, you basically surmised the Sin archetype perfectly. Paradox's darkness, born from his goal, is what allows him to corrupt the cards of other people, and make them his own. It's pretty much that, and "Sin World" representing the world of the future. Trying to shoehorn religious connotations to Paradox's motif doesn't really explain, or broaden his character at all. There's nothing else there.

[Lia]

As I catch you online Mako, are you about to upload the alternative HD versions of the 5D'S OPs and EDs on MU?

[Makoeyes987]

As I catch you online Mako, are you about to upload the alternative HD versions of the 5D'S OPs and EDs on MU?

Oh crap, I totally forgot.

Thanks for reminding me. Since I'm at work atm, I'll have to do it when I get home, but I'll definitely do it tonight.

[Lia]

Oh crap, I totally forgot.

Thanks for reminding me. Since I'm at work atm, I'll have to do it when I get home, but I'll definitely do it tonight.

Good. Much appreciated, actually! x) I guess it won't be a problem if you post the links directly here when you're ready. When Arynis comes back, she'll replace the links in the main list. Thanks again. x) It's important to have all HD versions of these alternative OPs and EDs. x)

[Allana]

We really must be getting desperate to grasp at straws to connect things now. What's there to discuss between two entirely different characters, using two entirely different monsters, that only have the vaguest of similarities in terms of type and attribute? Their effects, origins, and purpose are wholly dissimilar. This pinning Paradox to anything 5Ds farts out, is getting old.

Allana, you basically surmised the Sin archetype perfectly. Paradox's darkness, born from his goal, is what allows him to corrupt the cards of other people, and make them his own. It's pretty much that, and "Sin World" representing the world of the future. Trying to shoehorn religious connotations to Paradox's motif doesn't really explain, or broaden his character at all. There's nothing else there.

The similarities between Sin Truth and Scar Red are only symbolics, I'm agree. To say true, Sin Truth is more linked to Egypt because the mythology. I explained it in this analysis.

Thanks you very much!

Very good point! I hadn't thought the ability corruption could come from his darkness! You're probably right, he corrupt monsters himself. He corrupt monsters because his heart is also corrupt.

If the light come back in his heart, he must be able to destroy Sin Monsters in the sense he can return the original card to white, like it was before a Sin Monster appears inside it. Like Pegasus did it in Duelist Kingdom.

I'm agree with Sin World, It's the more obvious. Sin Tune also exprims the corrupt. The tune must be lighted but it turns to dark instead.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I thought to the Sin concept, It is possible to explain it without religious connotation.

The Sin archetype is used by Paradox. Goes to the idea the sin archetype is an expression of Paradox himself.

In current language, the word sin exists. The sin is defined as a mistake or do a bad action. Also as commit an offense, a violation. Paradox does a sin when he steals Stardust Dragon. He commits a bad action, a offense. Turn original monsters to Sin monsters can indicate he has got all of them by bad actions.

Technically, do bad action means there a justification, I mean a goal, something the person wants in committing his bad action. Changing the past to save the future means kill a lot of person, firstly Pegasus is a bad action with a precise goal.

There another sense to the sin concept. It can be linked with the word corrupt. It’s because someone had been corrupt by another person or something this person do bad actions, commit sins. So, It is possible to do a sin after have been corrupt. To be corrupt means usually someone or something turns a person to act bad. The destruction of the Earth by Duel Monsters turns Paradox to a bad person in the goal to prevent his destruction.

This word means also change things in the sense upset. Paradox, in his quest to change the past, upset it completely.

It is possible to say Paradox, corrupt by his wishes to save the world, commits sin. Or in another word, blinked by his goal, he do bad actions to get it. All means are goods. The end justifies methods used.

To conclude, the sin means here to be corrupt, do bad actions. It can be noticed than corrupt persons aren’t corrupt all time. Yugi and Judai had been corrupt but they are returned to their other self, like they were before to have corrupted.

You have some very interesting points. The reason I reference Sin's religious connotation is because of the religious references that run rampant in Yugioh, particularly the Three Emperors of Yliaster. Your points also look at the concept of inner darkness, Darkness of Heart, which is a recurring theme.

We really must be getting desperate to grasp at straws to connect things now. What's there to discuss between two entirely different characters, using two entirely different monsters, that only have the vaguest of similarities in terms of type and attribute? Their effects, origins, and purpose are wholly dissimilar. This pinning Paradox to anything 5Ds farts out, is getting old.

Allana, you basically surmised the Sin archetype perfectly. Paradox's darkness, born from his goal, is what allows him to corrupt the cards of other people, and make them his own. It's pretty much that, and "Sin World" representing the world of the future. Trying to shoehorn religious connotations to Paradox's motif doesn't really explain, or broaden his character at all. There's nothing else there.

If there's nothing else to his character, then he would have been explained in whole in the film. He wasn't. Furthermore, it was mentioned that his story would be completed in 5D's. Lastly, my connections are based upon the idea that the Tenth Anniversary Movie may have been a foreshadow for all sorts of things to happen.

As I pointed out before, there are lots of words that can mean "corruption". They chose the word "Sin", which is filled with connotations, both in English and Japanese (the Romaji "Shin"). You mean to say then, that with all of this, it's really so shallow? I think not. There's always more to these things.

[Makoeyes987]

If there's nothing else to his character, then he would have been explained in whole in the film. He wasn't. Furthermore, it was mentioned that his story would be completed in 5D's. Lastly, my connections are based upon the idea that the Tenth Anniversary Movie may have been a foreshadow for all sorts of things to happen.

I hate to be the one to say this, but he still is, just a movie/OVA character that has no tangible connection to any established events of the series. They never said his "story would be completed." They just said that we may see more of him in 5Ds. There's not even any context to just how we'd see more of him.

As I pointed out before, there are lots of words that can mean "corruption". They chose the word "Sin", which is filled with connotations, both in English and Japanese (the Romaji "Shin"). You mean to say then, that with all of this, it's really so shallow? I think not. There's always more to these things.

I'll believe it when I see it. But Paradox's deck is mostly composed of other people's monsters. It's kinda hard to go for indepth religious symbolism when the majority of his deck save for his two aces are other people's cards. The symbolism itself is the fact that his corruption/tragedy allows him to control other people's monsters, and that he's an amalgam of the strongest opponents possible, and a threat from the future. He's the strongest opponent, from an unknown, destroyed future. He's the ultimate optional boss of YGO.

The only "sin" is the sin of destruction that presumably, he feels falls on the past for destroying the future. Nothing really religious there.

[Allana]

I hate to be the one to say this, but he still is, just a movie/OVA character that has no tangible connection to any established events of the series. They never said his "story would be completed." They just said that we may see more of him in 5Ds. There's not even any context to just how we'd see more of him.

I'll believe it when I see it. But Paradox's deck is mostly composed of other people's monsters. It's kinda hard to go for indepth religious symbolism when the majority of his deck save for his two aces are other people's cards. The symbolism itself is the fact that his corruption/tragedy allows him to control other people's monsters, and that he's an amalgam of the strongest opponents possible, and a threat from the future. He's the strongest opponent, from an unknown, destroyed future. He's the ultimate optional boss of YGO.

The only "sin" is the sin of destruction that presumably, he feels falls on the past for destroying the future. Nothing really religious there.

Paradox is THE Yu-Gi-Oh! boss. So powerful protagonists must duel him together, all 3 against him who is alone. No doubt Paradox, with his deck, can beat them all individually.

His sin come from his darkness. The religion hasn't been never really present in Yu-Gi-Oh!, just mentionned. Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't Castlevania, Yugi Muto isn't Soma Cruz.

I think Paradox will his own arc, probably after the WRGP. It seems me the best way to tell his story. He will appears in 5d's but we don't know when exactly. Neither the circumstances of his appareance. I hope a badass first appareance who leaves me without voice.

[Makoeyes987]

I'm sorry it took so long for me to do this after I said I would, but here it is. Better late than never right? XD

Here are all the alternate openings and endings of YGO 5Ds, that feature clips from the movie.

Enjoy everyone! ^^

[Allana]

I'm sorry it took so long for me to do this after I said I would, but here it is. Better late than never right? XD

Here are all the alternate openings and endings of YGO 5Ds, that feature clips from the movie.

Enjoy everyone! ^^

Thanks a lot! You is our savior!

[Moglie_di_Chazz]

I'm sorry it took so long for me to do this after I said I would, but here it is. Better late than never right? XD

Here are all the alternate openings and endings of YGO 5Ds, that feature clips from the movie.

Enjoy everyone! ^^

Thank you Mako for alternative Opening and Ending ^-^

[Lia]

I'm sorry it took so long for me to do this after I said I would, but here it is. Better late than never right? XD

Here are all the alternate openings and endings of YGO 5Ds, that feature clips from the movie.

Enjoy everyone! ^^

Much appreciated. I'm checking the link now.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Paradox is THE Yu-Gi-Oh! boss. So powerful protagonists must duel him together, all 3 against him who is alone. No doubt Paradox, with his deck, can beat them all individually.

His sin come from his darkness. The religion hasn't been never really present in Yu-Gi-Oh!, just mentionned. Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't Castlevania, Yugi Muto isn't Soma Cruz.

I think Paradox will his own arc, probably after the WRGP. It seems me the best way to tell his story. He will appears in 5d's but we don't know when exactly. Neither the circumstances of his appareance. I hope a badass first appearance who leaves me without voice.

For your first point, undoubtedly. Yusei barely held a defence by himself, Judai needed Yusei for Fusion, and Yugi set up Sin Truth. Way to go.

Religion not present?

-The Three Demons are named after Judeo-Christian Angels
-Yliaster is an "Organization of God"

Agreeably, this isn't much, but enough to show that it is there.

Finally, I think it's 116 of 5D's that sounds like it might reference Paradox, but I'm not sure.

[Allana]

For your first point, undoubtedly. Yusei barely held a defence by himself, Judai needed Yusei for Fusion, and Yugi set up Sin Truth. Way to go.

Religion not present?

-The Three Demons are named after Judeo-Christian Angels
-Yliaster is an "Organization of God"

Agreeably, this isn't much, but enough to show that it is there.

Finally, I think it's 116 of 5D's that sounds like it might reference Paradox, but I'm not sure.

I mean religion isn't the central plot. There references to the religion but it's all, there no speech about it or something.

The 116 preview is pretty interesting. It set the possibility of the existence of an alternate universe. And Crow's arm seems cured. Maybe Paradox will appears?

Nice avatar!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

I mean religion isn't the central plot. There references to the religion but it's all, there no speech about it or something.

The 116 preview is pretty interesting. It set the possibility of the existence of an alternate universe. And Crow's arm seems cured. Maybe Paradox will appears?

Nice avatar!

I'll bet you this is exactly what the creators of the film were trying to do. "Let's get all the die-hard fans quibbling about what "Sin" is talking about! Mwu ha ha." Or something like that.

Yeah, it does, and I hope so too. I'd love to see him in 5D's, and find out more.

And thank you.

[Tri_Horned_Dragon]

Just relationed news:

The Fate/Stay Night movie "Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works" was confirmed to be released in Semptember 30 in Blu-Ray. "Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu" was confirmed to be released in Amazon in Blu-Ray too but still there is not a official date. Both movies were released in the same month than Yu-Gi-Oh! the movie so it could be released in September-October.

[63cohen]

Just relationed news:

The Fate/Stay Night movie "Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works" was confirmed to be released in Semptember 30 in Blu-Ray. "Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu" was confirmed to be released in Amazon in Blu-Ray too but still there is not a official date. Both movies were released in the same month than Yu-Gi-Oh! the movie so it could be released in September-October.

Or we are waiting for 4kids to release it internationally as Horoko suggested.

[Avenger]

cant take it anymore
when will the movie be on dvd?
havent anyone heard news about it or something?

[Makoeyes987]

Godda|\/|nt, stop bumping this fvcking thread asking if there's news. If there's news, you'll find it in the most recent post. It's annoying coming here and thinking something interesting's been posted only for it to be another mofo asking the same question that's been asked since page 1. Quit it, for God's sake.

[Shadowmancer]

Hey guys, I found some more news!

Nah, I just want to say that you're being too harsh.

Sorry to disappoint.

[Tri_Horned_Dragon]

Or we are waiting for 4kids to release it internationally as Horoko suggested.

I have not read the previous posts... the danger of read a spoiler is very high. Just take it like curious news.

[63cohen]

I have not read the previous posts... the danger of read a spoiler is very high. Just take it like curious news.

No worries, with all the lengthy posts I can agree.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Godda|\/|nt, stop bumping this fvcking thread asking if there's news. If there's news, you'll find it in the most recent post. It's annoying coming here and thinking something interesting's been posted only for it to be another mofo asking the same question that's been asked since page 1. Quit it, for God's sake.

Leet Swearing - a Janime tradition.

nd I agree with Mako. Here's a hint to the f-ing morons who keep doing this; if we didn't answer you the first 30 f-ing times, we won't answer you the next f-ing time, so take your stupid repetitive whiny question and shove it up your [censored]. Seriously.

[Allana]

I thought again to Paradox and Sins monsters and I draw theses interpretations:

Paradox is the last survivor on Earth. Before to travel time, he has probably searched others survivors. It’s a terrible experience, absolutely terrible. He discovers he is the single survivor, all life has disappeared, animals, vegetals and even water. Paradox understands he is doomed to disappear without person, being the last human on Earth. He decides to travel time to change the History and create a better future. Paradox wants save the future. His goal is so stronger his heart and himself become corrupt. He must succeed, he has no choice, he is the last survivor on Earth. Paradox, corrupt by his wishes to save the world, commits sins. It’s why he talks of experiments: It’s a self mechanism defense to occult the fact he becomes a destructor. In his mind, he doesn’t think to be a destructor he is the humanity’s savior. However, he has consciousness to destroy the past and the world because he say to Judai he will "destroy his era also". But accept it like a truth with the consequences is the next step, more difficult to do it. Indeed, Paradox himself can't do this next step because he own a D-Wheel who can travel time and space. Paradoxes understand he commits sins. And his monsters exprims the corrupt like their master. It is possible Paradox get them by bad actions, in committing sins. In studying their names, it can be noticed they means a lot of things.

Sin Blue Eyes White Dragon is the most symbolic corrupt. The original card, Blue Eyes White Dragon, own originally to Seto Kaiba. Blue Eyes White Dragon, who contains Kisara’s Ka, is to Seto Kaiba the most important card on Earth. Blue Eyes White Dragon is a card who represents the purity, the light. For an unknown reason, it fails in Paradox’s hands and turns to become a Sin version. Under this form, he has lost all purity, he isn’t at all this dragon who has a good soul. His DARK Attribute can be considered as a proves of this aspect. On his artwork, SBEWD has the thunder represented, he is flying. It’s the contrary for his original counterpart, Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon.

Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon is the corrupt form of the original Red Eyes Black Dragon, who is himself the counterpart of the Blue Eyes White Dragon. In the manga and anime, his original card, Red Eyes Black Dragon feels sadness when he discovers his master Jono-Uchi, controlled by Marik is dueling Young Yugi, who actually own REBD in his deck and decides to summon him on his side of the field. He wishes his master return to normal. In feeling sadness for his master, Red Eyes Black Dragon has a good side, he is able to understand and even protect humans. He shares this similarity with Blue Eyes White Dragon. In becoming a Sin Monster, probably all compassion, all feelings for humans is gone. The Sin version must probably lose all feeling for humans. Contrary to Sin Blue Eyes White Dragon, SREBD, is shown near of the Earth, because is the very near of a volcano. It stay DARK attribute as originally he was showing an opposition with SBEWD. Ironically, they fight together on Paradox’s field.

Sin Cyber End Dragon. His original card, Cyber End Dragon, he is one the most powerful Machine Type Monster of the Duel Monsters with 4000 attacks points. When Ancient Ultimate Gear, the most powerful Machine type monster the ancient mechanics, Cyber End Dragon represents the ultimate level of the technology. And this is associate to the evolution, the idea in the technology and it progresses are it improves life, quotidian as professional. In becoming a Sin version, Cyber End Dragon can shows dangers of the news technologies. It can destroy a lot of things, sometimes kill people because of a malfunction or a bad utilization for example. It is shown by the scene when it destroys building to kill people and Pegasus: with his 3 heads he throws several attacks, It’s him who destroys really the building who fails on Pegasus killing him. In becoming Sin version, Cyber End Dragon become the instrument of the death, not a proves that human life can be improved by technology.

Sin Rainbow Dragon is similar. The Rainbow Dragon, by his name exprims life, more than colors. In all mythology, it is associated to the life. It is also a way between the world of the human and Gods in several mythologies. In Japanese mythology for example, the first men Isanagi and the first women, Isanami had walked on a rainbow, which lead them on Earth and they able to create life. In becoming a Sin version, a corrupt version of the rainbow Dragon, Sin rainbow Dragon represents the life who die on Earth, in one word, he means the death. He loses his role of the protector and intermediate of the life. Also, in traveling time with his master, Rainbow Dragon and Sin Rainbow Dragon proves together in a certain sense there a way between two world. Here, they take the form of the past and the future.

Sin Parallel Gear seems to be a unique Sin monster, without original card. He represents a gear who reminds a gear of a machine. Paradox using his D-Wheel as time machine, Sin parallel Gear can represent it. He evocates machines of the past. By his function of Tuner Monster, he assemble monsters together, he do function the machine here the Synchro Summon. He is an essential piece to perform Synchro Summon. Also, he can represent the function of Paradox's D-Wheel who allow him to travel time and space.

Sin Stardust Dragon is the corrupt form of Stardust Dragon who has been stolen by Paradox to Yusei. According certain theories, scientists or not, the stardust is associate to the creation of the life. As card of Duel Monster, the Sin Stardust Dragon has a space represented on his artwork. It is probable this is Sin World, Paradox’s Field Spell. His special ability who allows him to protect Field Spell Card gives credit to this possibility. He has a stronger meaning. In the space, there a stars who has a cycle life. Sin Stardust Dragon can be, by his name, interpreted as star killer. Sin Stardust Dragon, who is a corrupt version, can corrupt all stars in the space star by star that can turn like he is.

Sin Paradox Dragon is obviously a representation of Paradox himself. He bears a black color. This color represents one part the death, the sadness, the obscurity. Other part, it represents the mystery. It’s exactly Paradox himself: he is mysterious because he don’t give his real identity. He bears also same hairs than his master. He has 4000 attacks points and defense points, giving him a powerful strength compared to Sin Rainbow Dragon has 0 Defense Points giving potentially to Paradox the risk to get Piercing damage. His special ability who allows him to revive a Synchro Monster from the Graveyard is very symbolic. He do reborn the life and use it to bring death. It’s what happened with Stardust Dragon: he does revive him from the Graveyard but in same time, he uses his attacks points to decrease attacks points of an opponent’s monster by the total of his original attacks points. By this special ability, Sin Paradox Dragon is a symbol of the death. It is the contrary of Sin Truth Dragon, the monster who can be summoned thanks to him if he is destroyed by the Trap Sin Paradigm Shift.

Sin Truth Dragon is the master of all Sin Dragons. He bears a dark gold color who means jealousy and betrayal. It’s very interesting; it is possible this describes Paradox’s past himself. He bears also a dark red color meaning violent feelings like angry, also the passion. They describe Paradox and his will to kill Pegasus and the Duel Monsters. His gigantic attacks points set him above all Sins monster. There another interesting aspect, the fusion with his master. It can be seen as an honor: he is only Sin monster able to fuse with his master, a man who use and rules the Sin deck. His effect proves he is their master: in inflicting damage after another Sin destroy an opponent's monster by battle, he can potentially kill opponent's Life Points. In supposing this happens, It is a victory gained by Sin Truth Dragon himself, the master has the last word.

The Field Spell Sin World represents a city, with it seems to be a sun and something black inside it. Probably it’s the end of the world. The effect of this card allow to his controller to get a Sin Monster instead of conducting his normal draw. In others words, this card allow to his master the monsters who represents the corrupt.

The Quick Spell Sin Cross do reborn a Sin monster of the Graveyard. His artwork seems represents several ways who lead to a same point. This point can be seen as the destruction of the Earth so the death. Symbolically, this card creates the contrary of his effect. This card has to function to do reborn monster so theoretically bring life. But in bringing a Sin monster on the field, this card brings the death on the field. The fact Paradox can ignoring summoning conditions is obviously necessary to the game but Paradox can in theory bring a definitive death to his opponent. However, there another contradiction: he bringing Sin Monster from the Graveyard, Paradox can also bring the life: he can potentially win the duel. If he had succeeded in the movie, he would have won the duel thanks to this card. That’s means he would have save the world from the destruction, preserving life.

Sin Selector, by his name, reminds the Natural Selection theorizing by Charles Darwin. This name implies this card must bring to Paradox the strongest monsters of his deck. However, his effect contradicts his name in a certain sense: this card can bring randomly monsters to Paradox’s hands. That’s means he can bring weakest monsters like strongest monsters. It’s a little ironical and funny in same time. The monsters bring by this card are Sin Blue Eyes White and Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon. Their original monsters are the counterpart of each other, respectively Blue Eyes White Dragon and Red Eyes Black Dragon. On his artwork is represented a hand holding a blue flame. This hand holding a flame can be interpreted as a hand who holding life. It can be a hand who holding hope. The blue color of this flame gives credit to this idea: the blue color means the harmony, the serenity the truth but also – and It’s very interesting – the purity of the feelings. Paradox’s wants save the future. It’s a noble, a pure feeling. But unfortunately, this wishes is so stronger he has corrupt his heart. It’s why this card take finally the name of Sin Selector: Paradox’s feelings are pure, noble but he must save the future by all means so he must get the most quickly possible the Sins monsters in his hand who are, for the moment, all very powerful except Sin Parallel Gear.

Sin Claw Stream is a trap who destroys an opponent monster that a Sin monster hasn’t succeeded to destroy by battle. It gives the pictures of a claw that comes take him to destroy it and It’s so quick he comes like a stream. In other words, that’s means this claw is representation of the death. The resolution of this card is quick staying this picture possible. The word claw can be also a reference to Paradox’s nails who has like claws. Of this point of view this card can represent Paradox himself creating an empty field to win. The word Stream is also a reference to the water, to the life. For example, on the Nile, when the Delta is in flood, alluviums are deposited. Thanks to them, the soil is reconstituted and plants can grow more easily.

The Trap Sin Force prevents a Sin monster to be affected by Spell Card. It’s a very practical card against Spell Card like Brain Control for example. It is interesting to notice that each protagonist own in their deck a card with Force in their name: Mirror Force to Yugi, Neos Force to Judai and Spirit Force to Yusei.

Sin Tune is a trap who allows to Paradox to draw 2 cards when a Sin monster is destroyed. Usually, a Tune is a song. But a Tune is also something who must be fixed, adjust, harmonized: this is this second sense that correspond to Sin Tune. The goal of Paradox is fixe History to change and save the future. But this tune becomes a sin because Paradox wants kill a lot of person to fulfill his objective.

Sin Paradigm Shift allows Paradox to Summon Sin Truth Dragon halving his Life Points. This card, when it active takes the colors of Three Egyptians Gods. Probably this aspect wants show Sin Truth Dragon is more powerful than the Three Egyptians Gods together: he has more attacks points than Obelisk (5000 vs. 4000), his attacks points are given contrary to Osiris and Ra and can prevent his own destruction. Interestingly, this card shows a Synchro Monster bring a effect monster. It should be the contrary: the Synchro Monsters aren’t the Duel Monster’s evolution?

[63cohen]

^And that is why I do not visit this thread often.

[Makoeyes987]

The speculation can only go so far before we're just rehashing and saying the same thing we've concluded over and over again.

We're grasping at subjective meaning from an OVA that lasts less than an hour...from a character who has less dialogue than most characters in the entire series. Paradox is awesome, but he's hardly that much of a complex or deeply written character, given to the simple fact his appearance is one of the shortest in the entire series. He's only one step above Anubis. We're kinda retreading old ground here trying to find meaning in his deck over and over and over again.

[63cohen]

I just do not get why you are trying to find meaning in his deck, it could just be that all his cards are corrupt due to the bad future Yliaster is trying to prevent.

[Makoeyes987]

Hey don't look at me, I stopped 20 pages ago. XDDDD

I don't know why either. But then I could also say that people trying to shoehorn or find connections between the current arc now and Paradox are right in the same league. We again are not given any hint at all that the Yliaster Emperors are trying to save the future or whatever. All they're doing is doing what they've done all throughout history. Manipulate humanity and guide the planet to the goals they feel it should be. There's no "saving" here. It's just straight up manipulation. It gets equally tiring pinning every fart of Yliaster to Paradox, and vice versa.

[Avenger]

Godda|\/|nt, stop bumping this fvcking thread asking if there's news. If there's news, you'll find it in the most recent post. It's annoying coming here and thinking something interesting's been posted only for it to be another mofo asking the same question that's been asked since page 1. Quit it, for God's sake.

too many pages so i dont have time to read them all or half of them
so yeah

[Shadowmancer]

Actually, Jose mentions saving the future. That's why people are trying to make the connections. I'm not sure which episode, but I definitely remember it in one of the three tenor discussions.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Actually, Jose mentions saving the future. That's why people are trying to make the connections. I'm not sure which episode, but I definitely remember it in one of the three tenor discussions.

Episode 106, talking with Lucciano:

"The Circuit is being completed bit by bit. But, a Circuit that can only be completed by the D-Wheeler crashing is quite troublesome."
"To unlock the true potential of humans, we need the power of Momentum; in other words, the power of D-Wheelers. When the Ciruit is completed, the location of God will appear."
"But how big is it? The Circuit is the same size as Neo Domino City. Completing it will surely destroy the city."
"It would be a small price to save our future."

And you're right, this is the source of the debate; after all, it seems to be the same goal as Paradox, and the sacrifice of a few to save the many. The way I see it, either this is the Emperors being used to reference Paradox, or vice-versa.

[Makoeyes987]

Goes to show how much I'm paying attention to this trainwreck of a season...

I remember that now. In regards to that line, they're talking about saving "their" future. Not the future of humanity or of everyone else. But they're referring specifically to the outlined future that they want to achieve. Couple that with the words they stated after introducing themselves to Yusei, Jack and Crow, and its clear that the future they so eagerly want to save, is a future of their own making. A future that they want, not one for any and all people. This isn't them saving the world, this is them saving their own idealized image of the world they want to see come to fruition. Because that's what Yliaster apparently does. Steer human history and civilization towards the goal they think is best.

Paradox is an entirely different case. Paradox is from a whole new generation. A generation that literally is stated as destroyed with him being its sole survivor. Going by his words, it was all thanks to Duel Monsters, and he has literally ripped through space-time to change the past and undo it. There's a difference between him saying he's trying to change the hopeless future of his time, versus the Yliaster emperors stating they want to save "their" future.

[Allana]

Jose said they wants save their future. I watched again the scene and I don't think they know the future. They wants just create History according their wishes. For example, they don't tolerate the Momemtum. So they decides to destroy it. In this action, there no link with the future, It's just they estimates the Momemtum is unless to the humans like they estimates Synchro Monsters are also unecessary to them. They interacts on the present to change the future but they don't know how the future will be really. They acts just to create it like they hoping it will be day after day.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Goes to show how much I'm paying attention to this trainwreck of a season...

I have a semi-eidetic memory; that's why I know the lines. Not really worth paying attention to, you're right.

I remember that now. In regards to that line, they're talking about saving "their" future. Not the future of humanity or of everyone else. But they're referring specifically to the outlined future that they want to achieve. Couple that with the words they stated after introducing themselves to Yusei, Jack and Crow, and its clear that the future they so eagerly want to save, is a future of their own making. A future that they want, not one for any and all people. This isn't them saving the world, this is them saving their own idealized image of the world they want to see come to fruition. Because that's what Yliaster apparently does. Steer human history and civilization towards the goal they think is best.

Because apparently God wants a specific outcome but also wants "all possibilities [to be] made equal". Personally, I think they're all glitched; that's why Placido is impatient and Lucciano is... well, however he is, when they're all robots and thus should be devoid of emotion.

Paradox is an entirely different case. Paradox is from a whole new generation. A generation that literally is stated as destroyed with him being its sole survivor. Going by his words, it was all thanks to Duel Monsters, and he has literally ripped through space-time to change the past and undo it. There's a difference between him saying he's trying to change the hopeless future of his time, versus the Yliaster emperors stating they want to save "their" future.

Yes, I agree that it is a very different goal. I was referring solely to their phrasing; but they lie, even to each other. It isn't truly "saving" the future so much as controlling it; Paradox actually looks like he wants to save it.

Jose said they wants save their future. I watched again the scene and I don't think they know the future. They wants just create History according their wishes. For example, they don't tolerate the Momentum. So they decides to destroy it. In this action, there no link with the future, It's just they estimates the Momentum is unless to the humans like they estimates Synchro Monsters are also unnecessary to them. They interacts on the present to change the future but they don't know how the future will be really. They acts just to create it like they hoping it will be day after day.

And apparently I agree with Allana. I think they don't like Momentum or Synchro Monsters for exactly the reason Ghost stated - they represent further human evolution. Evolution from apes led to human awareness; human evolving further would mean awareness of God, of Yliaster, on a whole new level.

Or, perhaps they fear that Momentum can be used to cause total destruction. Jose and Placido did call it a mistake in human history; perhaps more than one. Think it's at all possible that Momentum is why Duel Monsters destroyed Paradox's world?

Think about it. Momentum is a "living energy", used to power duels (among other things), that is basically infinite. It also has limitless destructive power, as shown in Zero Reverse. Perhaps Momentum was taken too far...

[Prismamaster]

You guys are overthinking too much.It's just a short movie.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

You guys are over-thinking too much.It's just a short movie.

We need something to do man; give us that.

[Nexus]

http://h.imagehost.org/0954/Yu-Gi-Oh...C_20-31-14.jpg

so, the complete effect of sin world. anyone who can translate it?

[Makoeyes987]

And here I thought there was a new meaningful post of information or news about the OVA. Or at least some discussion.

The YGO wikia has a translation of its effect already. And who could read the card text from that screenshot anyways? You can't make out any of the characters at all.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

And here I thought there was a new meaningful post of information or news about the OVA. Or at least some discussion.

The YGO wikia has a translation of its effect already. And who could read the card text from that screenshot anyways? You can't make out any of the characters at all.

Technically, it has an approximation of the effect (most likely based off dialogue since, as you mentioned, the effect is illegible). But yeah, this was really pointless.

[Makoeyes987]

Speaking of cards from the OVA, I'm feeling rather disappointed we seem to have gotten the last bit of cards for this special. I don't think we'll be getting Yugi's new Dark Magician support cards, or Yusei's Junk Gardna either.

And I definitely doubt we'll be getting Sin Cyber End or Sin Rainbow Dragon, as well. Considering how utterly boss and broken they are.

It also would've been nice to have gotten some other cards from the Sin archetype to make it all come together as a theme, not just a bunch of beatsticks with mediocre effects and debilitating side effects.

The cards from this movie would've made a wonderful limited edition or premium pack.

[Allana]

Speaking of cards from the OVA, I'm feeling rather disappointed we seem to have gotten the last bit of cards for this special. I don't think we'll be getting Yugi's new Dark Magician support cards, or Yusei's Junk Gardna either.

And I definitely doubt we'll be getting Sin Cyber End or Sin Rainbow Dragon, as well. Considering how utterly boss and broken they are.

It also would've been nice to have gotten some other cards from the Sin archetype to make it all come together as a theme, not just a bunch of beatsticks with mediocre effects and debilitating side effects.

The cards from this movie would've made a wonderful limited edition or premium pack.

In fact, according the previews, I expected to see more monsters.

A structure deck of the Sin deck would have also been excellent. It seems me the better way to get them quickly. I think I can continue to dream ^^

[Lia]

You guys are overthinking too much.It's just a short movie.

Yes, but it's the best YGO movie ever made, soooo..........

[kc_alex2]

Yes, but it's the best YGO movie ever made, soooo..........

It's very easy to outclass the Anubis movie.

Geez, I can't believe there is no information about the DVD release in the moment...

[Heather]

It's very easy to outclass the Anubis movie.

Geez, I can't believe there is no information about the DVD release in the moment...

I agree. I'm that desperate to see the movie that I'm half hoping that the rumour of a summer release by 4Kids in the cinemas is true (I know I will regret that statement if they ever do release it as it is bound to be awful but I suppose it will be the only way I will see Dark Yugi, Judai and Yusei in glorious 3D).

[Lia]

I agree. I'm that desperate to see the movie that I'm half hoping that the rumour of a summer release by 4Kids in the cinemas is true (I know I will regret that statement if they ever do release it as it is bound to be awful but I suppose it will be the only way I will see Dark Yugi, Judai and Yusei in glorious 3D).

Well, I suspect we'll see the american version released way before the original japanese one anyway. l-(

[kc_alex2]

I agree. I'm that desperate to see the movie that I'm half hoping that the rumour of a summer release by 4Kids in the cinemas is true (I know I will regret that statement if they ever do release it as it is bound to be awful but I suppose it will be the only way I will see Dark Yugi, Judai and Yusei in glorious 3D).

If the movie come out this summer, we would know about it. Sorry, but we have June.
Beside this, I have nothing of a cinema release in the US, because I'm from Germany. Moreover, even when it comes to Germany, the german dub are more horrible then a fandub, so I prefer the original.