Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[63cohen]

I assume they will just use the same version no matter what. But it doesn't matter, it is such a small point, I am more worried with how they will deal with Zexal if the card backs are like that. They never really had to do so much like that before, I wonder if it is even a big deal, or if it could be kept the same.

[Siliva]

The main reason for why the Theater version would be edited is 4kids doesn't have a lot of money to waste on 2 versions, and if they want to air it on Toonzai, it would make financial sense to do one version.

Yeah, that makes sense when you think about it. Still not happy with it though, since other stuff will probably just end up cut out and gone, unless we get the Japanese version on Toonzaki or something. (Which...I can see happening...)

[YYugi]

Official English site launched: http://www.yugiohmovie3d.com/

I can't see whats in the trailer T_T
Damn you 4kids!
(somebody can post the images that haven't been shown?pleeeease )

[63cohen]

It is the same thing Slifer recorded from Comic Con, just with DOMA esque music (you know how good 4kids DOMA BGM was)

[YYugi]

Ok.
Even so, seeing that pics in good quality would be good though.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Official English site launched: http://www.yugiohmovie3d.com/

Awesome. Took them long enough too...

Admittedly, the English trailer looked promising. Here's hoping the dub version will be good too. I will probably buy the dub as well, unless I hear it's god awful. Although, by the description, it appears the plot will be untouched.

Plot untouched: good.

Only major thing I'm seeing is they've edited the cards, but considering they want to do a TV run and a Theatrical release, perfectly understandable.

Cards edited: makes them difficult to decipher, but okay.

I don't think so, it is the same video Slifer posted up from Comic Con, meaning it is just some ordinary background music.

Changed the background music: not so good. Also inexplicable since not changing the soundtrack would have been cheaper.

I wouldn't say the edited all the cards for the TV Release.

Spoiler: Frame by frame ninja~

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Wow. It's Rose Tentacles all over again.

As long as the errors that pop up aren't incredibly derpy like they can be sometimes, I have no problem with editing the cards.

You mean like using the wrong art, states etc. for a card? This is 4Kids; don't get your hopes up.

Also, the background music sounds like your typical 4Kids-DM styled music, with the awesome level cranked up to about 12,000 or so. It sounds like some weird thing was put into that they normally don't put in their music...

...Oh yeah. Effort.

But it's no Japanese OST.

This is true. It's on the better side of 4Kids music, but it is still 4Kids music. Light and Dark called; he wants his awesome back.

The main reason for why the Theater version would be edited is 4kids doesn't have a lot of money to waste on 2 versions, and if they want to air it on Toonzai, it would make financial sense to do one version.

It also made financial sense to not change the cards or the BGM. We'll see how economically smart 4Kids really is soon.

It is the same thing Slifer recorded from Comic Con, just with DOMA esque music (you know how good 4kids DOMA BGM was)

Uncharacteristically good, actually.

[NeoArkadia]

It also made financial sense to not change the cards or the BGM. We'll see how economically smart 4Kids really is soon.

If they want to air the movie on Toonzai, they have to change the cards to an edited form. Why? Because the FCC considers unedited cards to be equal to commercial time because the 1980s abused the crap out of toyetic shows like Transformers, GI Joe, and He-Man.

[63cohen]

First of all, we have no confirmation of no original music, this was a promo Konami made and 4kids merely edited the look of. The music is the same from that promo, it sounds like it. Is it Slifer?

Second, using the original music is much more expensive than to go in house. Usually that is.

[Ryusaki]

It is the same thing Slifer recorded from Comic Con, just with DOMA esque music (you know how good 4kids DOMA BGM was)

Do I? I remember the first five seconds of their Seal of Orichaclos theme (the catchy bit) but that's all. Fairly sure it was the usual endless fare. It doesn't help that Sound Duel 3 was so good in comparison.

First of all, we have no confirmation of no original music, this was a promo Konami made and 4kids merely edited the look of. The music is the same from that promo, it sounds like it. Is it Slifer?

Yeah, although I can't view the clip that's what I'm banking on at the moment too. Because if it turns out they've learned nothing and aren't using the original soundtrack like all other dubbed anime do, then I really don't care how good the dub soundtrack is: I'm out.

Does that seem extreme? It is, ridiculously so. But it's been nearly a decade of dubbed YGO and I really don't care about whatever music they have to offer. Really don't care.

[63cohen]

The OST cost more money than it does to make their own music, a freelance worker in Canada who did work for Nelvana confirmed it. However, I think the forum post where he said it has long been erased.

[GoldenUmi]

4Kids did have some nice music, but...

their excuse for not dishing our more money for the original OST is such a weak one. All other dub companies I consider good dish out the money, and with a higher quality product, receive the money back because fans buy the product.

The same would apply to 4Kids, but they have never seen that and never will. I'm not saying a different score will make it terrible, but why can't we just have the original music that's five times better? Or at least pull a Pokemon and leave some of the original music in and add their own crap in silent moments, since kids can't have silence apparently.

[63cohen]

4kids has no way to make DVDs now, their product, so OST is out of the question. 4kids is in the shit hole. However, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that being if Konami takes charge of most of Yugioh production, aside from dubbing. They would deal with all the financial stuff, and 4kids would provide the voices and visual edits. Will that happen? Lets hope the way the movie is handled, with 4kids being the last name shown, a good sign.

[Makoeyes987]

.....Seriously? Are you freakin' kidding me now? I'm not feeling enthused or hopeful here with this.

The music (one of the best qualities of YGO) does not need to be changed, 4Kids. Put up the cash and just get the damn soundtrack to match. If there is one thing I hope they learn and implement, it's that. I can understand the card artwork, the dubbing, a few localizations etc etc. But this shit is stupid. My line in the sand is the original music. If they can't even get that to earn my business, I'm not interested. There is literally no reason at all to change the music for a theatrical run, when they can make serious cash back from it all. It's not like this is a damn risky venture. This trailer does not bode well. No, I'm not impressed with 4kids music. I've never been. And no, I do not like it and never have. Why would they change the music for their web trailer in the first place, if it didn't reflect the actual movie? That seriously raises some red flags. They wouldn't do that for no reason.

Ugh. Balls.

[63cohen]

To use the OST, they need money, something they don't have ready to throw out, since their product cannot be bought as GoldenUmi said.

let's hope the fact the movie is probably financed by Konami be a good indicator we might have OST.

[Makoeyes987]

They can. If they really wanted to. The freakin' movie's only an hour long in the first place. There's no risk here. They'd make the damn money back and then some. Do they not see that?

It's a piss poor, weak excuse.

[Lia]

I can't see whats in the trailer T_T
Damn you 4kids!
(somebody can post the images that haven't been shown?pleeeease )

It's not only you. Can someone somehow download this and upload it on youtube. I still want to see it even if there's nothing new shown in there. Only if possible of course.

[63cohen]

They can. If they really wanted to. The freakin' movie's only an hour long in the first place. There's no risk here. They'd make the damn money back and then some. Do they not see that?

It's a piss poor, weak excuse.

Slow down, let me finish my point. I was talking about general anime episodes. The movie is special in that Konami is most likely financing it, along with NAS and TV Tokyo, since their names were shown first. Which means it is possible.

The movie will have a product, DVD, to be sold, so there is money to be made. The anime is right now a different story.

[Makoeyes987]

Slow down, let me finish my point. I was talking about general anime episodes. The movie is special in that Konami is most likely financing it, along with NAS and TV Tokyo, since their names were shown first. Which means it is possible.

I don't know why they wouldn't show the real music in their actual trailer, then. If that's the case, they have a very sick sense of humor.

It just feels like a big slap in the face here.

Fans aren't asking for much here. Screw the cards, screw the inevitable crappy dialogue changes, etc etc. Just give us the damn music. Please, 4kids? Can you handle that? That's all we're praying for here.

[63cohen]

Have you seen the trailer? It was that thing made specifically for the dub back at comic con, just with information about a free card with ticket fee. The music was synched with the trailer, not the scenes shown.

[GoldenUmi]

I do understand what you are saying Cohen, but that is present-day excuses. I'm talking about way back to Duel Monsters. I know we can't blame the "old 4Kids staff" mistakes on the "new 4Kids staff" and they are trying to change things, but the fact of the matter still remains that it was an incredibly dumb, cheap and lazy move to not purchase the OST in the first place when they had a lot of money back then and could have definitely been able to afford it.

Hopefully by Zexal, assuming it has a good soundtrack and I actually like it, they will be able to get the OST.

[63cohen]

I do understand what you are saying Cohen, but that is present-day excuses. I'm talking about way back to Duel Monsters. I know we can't blame the "old 4Kids staff" mistakes on the "new 4Kids staff" and they are trying to change things, but the fact of the matter still remains that it was an incredibly dumb, cheap and lazy move to not purchase the OST in the first place when they had a lot of money back then and could have definitely been able to afford it.

Hopefully by Zexal, assuming it has a good soundtrack and I actually like it, they will be able to get the OST.

I think it would be a good idea to email Mr. Kirk now about all of this. See if he responds. Oh, and could you add that it would be a good idea for them to jump a head and sub Crashtown, because the ending in the dub cut too much.

[Makoeyes987]

Whatever, just screw it all. We'll see how this all turns out. Maybe there's still hope, maybe not. But I will say my expectations have been lowered significantly. This shit's just retarded. I can't believe its a question now of if there's gonna be the actual music now....Ugh.

[63cohen]

What you are doing is let the 92 dub episode get to you. Calm down, it isn't the end of the world, there is still faith in a better dub, which I mentioned a few posts above.

[cheesedude]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I found the dub-DM theme music very nostalgic.

The summary on the trailer page seems to reveal that they didn't change Paradox's name. Yay.

[Makoeyes987]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I found the dub-DM theme music very nostalgic.

The summary on the trailer page seems to reveal that they didn't change Paradox's name. Yay.

Yes. You are.

I'm sorry, but I'd like my series as close as to the original as possible if we're not going to go through bullcrap of censors, FCC, bullcrap, etc etc. There's no excuse in this medium. I don't get how them diluting source material would be nostalgic or acceptable here. Or how expecting the actual music from the movie is too much.

But whatever. Maybe this is just a big troll by 4kids.

[Kyte]

Well, would it be considered false advertisement, what with the movie preview back in WC2010 had the original music and they ARE capable of shortening the soundtracks since some clips were removed for the preview (such as Yusei telling Yugi that he can use the effect of Reincarnation of Hope) so would still be in sync? I mean, yeah, preview was being shown only during a weekend and at a single place, so not too big of an audience would be seeing it. But with the fact that most likely it'd be leaked online, which it did, people will be expecting the music they heard. Also especially how at the end, they play makemagic. I really wouldn't mind atleast keeping that song and the very cool ending that was shown and proven to be in the ending credits of the actual movie. But it would look very..ugly with the edited cards.

Did Pyramid of Light trailers show the actual cards? Don't remember myself, I was pleasantly surprised seeing translated cards, and official-looking card art.

[63cohen]

Again Mako, you seen the trailer?

[cheesedude]

Yes. You are.

I'm sorry, but I'd like my series as close as to the original as possible if we're not going to go through bullcrap of censors, FCC, bullcrap, etc etc. There's no excuse in this medium. I don't get how them diluting source material would be nostalgic or acceptable here. Or how expecting the actual music from the movie is too much.

But whatever. Maybe this is just a big troll by 4kids.

I'd like it as close to the original as well, but at this point, I don't expect it. This is just par for the course with 4Kids. That being said, I first saw YGO as the DM dub, so the music was nostalgic for that reason, not because I particularly liked that.

[Makoeyes987]

I"d like it as close to the original as well, but at this point, I don't expect it. This is just par for the course with 4Kids. That being said, I first saw YGO as the DM dub, so the music was nostalgic for that reason, not because I particularly liked that.

So you've like...given up hope. I see. Well, I've had some hope with this, going by the last trailer shown that had the original music, so this is pretty jarring.

Fair enough. I see what you mean.

@Cohen

Yes, I have. And it looks great. 4kids thankfully can't screw with that and it'll be visually appealing. But that's not all there is to it. And I want to have something as close to the original experience as possible.

[cheesedude]

More or less, I suppose. I still really want to say the movie, dubbed or otherwise. I'll be happy with it as long as they don't have "Get Your Game On!" playing in the background during Judai's moves.

[Lia]

As always those who don't live in America got screwed. Anyway....still hope the video will pop up on youtube.

[Allana]

As always those who don't live in America got screwed. Anyway....still hope the video will pop up on youtube.

Unfortunatly yes and I don't understand why, It's just the trailer, not the entire movie. I think someone will do it, the first English trailer had been posted.

[Lia]

Unfortunatly yes and I don't understand why, It's just the trailer, not the entire movie. I think someone will do it, the first English trailer had been posted.

I guess there gotta be a way the teaser to be downloaded from the site and therefore uploaded elsewhere since the same happened with the original japanese trailer, but I don't know how. Anyway, we'll see if someone will succeed in doing so.

[GoldenUmi]

I think it would be a good idea to email Mr. Kirk now about all of this. See if he responds. Oh, and could you add that it would be a good idea for them to jump a head and sub Crashtown, because the ending in the dub cut too much.

I'm thinking about sending him an email or facebook message at some point. Just not when I get home from work at 11 at night, because I will sound like a retard, lol. I have to think over what I want to say about the movie and about Zexal's simulcast and whatnot.

I'm not sure if they'd be willing to skip that far ahead in the subs.

[63cohen]

If you find some spare time at work try and write it out. I would really like it to be sent to him, because Toonzaki itself hasn't posted in that discussion other than the X is silent.

[Kyte]

I don't think they'd assume you're a tard, Umi lol. Some emails about this and this can be sent late at night, at least it would pop up in their inbox first thing in the morning and would have to answer it with all seriousness.

But about Zexal, meh. Sorry, I'm just gonna pretend its dead and live life of ignorance in bliss. Ahh~

[GoldenUmi]

If you find some spare time at work try and write it out. I would really like it to be sent to him, because Toonzaki itself hasn't posted in that discussion other than the X is silent.

Since I work in a deli, that is impossible.

Well, let me get through the hective weekend. I'll see if I can cook something up on Sunday night. I get out earlier then.

[YamiMario]

I'm a bit confused. Is it just the same trailer from Comic Con, or is something changed?

I'm asking since I can't watch it.

[63cohen]

Just has some new info at the end, but nothing super important. Every ticket gets you a free card.

[MasterGhost]

http://img816.imageshack.us/i/101219...4293f83bd.jpg/

Apparently a scene from the movie. Have fun, guys.

[Makoeyes987]

...Is that really new? I'm sure I've seen that before.

[Lia]

It's definitely not new, but is still very hilarious. xD
I hope new english trailer will appear soon. It'll be good to hear the voice actors at least. And I hope this time EVERYONE will be able to watch it.

[GoldenUmi]

http://img816.imageshack.us/i/101219...4293f83bd.jpg/

Apparently a scene from the movie. Have fun, guys.

LOL, I have not seen that. Pretty damn funny.

I'd love to see Yugi's reaction as well.

[XERO_Slayer]

LOL, I have not seen that. Pretty damn funny.

I'd love to see Yugi's reaction as well.

LOL, I think this is when Judai and Yusei are about to travel to the past. So Yugi isn't there with them yet. XD

[GoldenUmi]

LOL, I think this is when Judai and Yusei are about to travel to the past. So Yugi isn't there with them yet. XD

So Yugi never rides on it at all?

[NeoArkadia]

Of what I've seen of the scripts gathered on the Movie Wiki:

Spoiler: Yugi

... gets swallowed by the Crimson Dragon, screaming in terror and then gets deposited in the past by it. :'|

[XERO_Slayer]

Of what I've seen of the scripts gathered on the Movie Wiki:

Spoiler: Yugi

... gets swallowed by the Crimson Dragon, screaming in terror and then gets deposited in the past by it. :'|

Wow.

The Crimson Dragon dare do that to the Legendary King of Duelists? And Yusei lets that happen to Yugi instead of Judai who experienced tons of stuff like that in the Duel Monster Spirits World?

Wow. Just wow.

O.O

[Makoeyes987]

...Didn't we know that already too?

Hell, the trailer shows the Crimson Dragon swallowing Yugi too.

[Lia]

Hell, the trailer shows the Crimson Dragon swallowing Yugi too.

Well it actually shows that the Crimson Dragon is approaching Yugi (who stands up from the ground at that moment) ready to swallow him, but the actual swallowing don't happen.
But if you talk for the very new dub trailer - well then I can't say cuz I'm one of the few people here who didn't have the luck to check it out.

So Yugi never rides on it at all?

Well, he actually does ride it, but only in a fanart. xD 8D I found such one where the 3 of them are on Yusei's D-wheel, but will show it when get home from work. x) It's pretty hilarious. xD

[kahunyu]

Up 'til GX, we were using Yugi's series' logo for the cards, but 5D's has Yusei's series' logo.

Considering how Paradox is technically Yusei's enemy and ZONE's friend, how Yusei deals the finishing blow, and how Yusei's alternate future self has power that apparently exceeds god cards AND can control the Crimson Dragon by what we seen in the OP, they can kinda do that to Yugi if it involves Yusei, sadly.

As far as they're making things out to be, Yusei's reality-warping powers are on par to that of Yugi and Judai now, and by the time he beats ZONE he'll have exceeded them. Doesn't help that he's a decent street fighter, has an IQ of like 300, is taller than both characters despite being only about 1~2 years older, is a tech junkie, can jump spacetime by his own power, and has a girlfriend who turns into a psychotic sadist ***** when she's mad or sad. Seriously, they haxed out Yusei past Yugi, then screwed with his personality so he's not like a more silent Tendou Souji.

Same goes for Jack, though to a lesser extent. Scar-Red Nova and Shooting Star more or less screw over the God Cards in one-on-one combat. Have both of them on the field and you could probably screw Ra and Obelisk. As for Osiris...just get Yugi's hand down to two cards and Crow can beat the thing. :/