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    Quote Originally Posted by YYugi View Post
    YAAAAY, loved that scene of the ending ^^
    It makes me wanna watch he movie so hardly >_<
    The one at the opening was also cool, O_O how Sin world effect comes from Paradox D-Wheel.
    Yes, that and Sin Cyber End's summoning was just amazing. But when we do watch the movie in like 6 months from now, were not going to be able to see it on a massive screen with awesome 3D animation T.T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allana View Post
    Interesting ! A lot of parallel timeline are possible. When these timelines are created, the time continue "normally" ? Good question. Impossible to know.
    As I said, it depends on how the time travel is executed in a work. Those timelines may have not been created. In Chrono Trigger, you can travel in time back and forth, but a new timeline was created only when Lavos was defeated, with a future that wasn't ruined by Lavos.

    However, if only Yugi is brought back in time after Paradox destroyed Domino City, that may have been a new timeline branch where Yugi didn't exist since he was taken away by Crimson Dragon, and Sugoroku and Pegasus are dead. I'll have to see the movie if Crimson Dragon transformed everything back, or it took only Yugi back in time.

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    Lol, Paradox is making a �3� face in there, but only because he's just talking and the screenshotter caught him at a wrong time. Yusei's faces, however... XD

    In Sin Paradigm Shift, you can see Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon. So in a way it's a mirror (the looks are similar) and yet opposite (red - blue color) of Sin Paradox, nice.
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    LOVE THE SCREEEENSHOTS ^^
    Thanks A LOT Arynis, you're the BEST ^_^

    LOL, Paradox reminded me of Kaiba in the 5th screenshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    As I said, it depends on how the time travel is executed in a work. Those timelines may have not been created. In Chrono Trigger, you can travel in time back and forth, but a new timeline was created only when Lavos was defeated, with a future that wasn't ruined by Lavos.

    However, if only Yugi is brought back in time after Paradox destroyed Domino City, that may have been a new timeline branch where Yugi didn't exist since he was taken away by Crimson Dragon, and Sugoroku and Pegasus are dead. I'll have to see the movie if Crimson Dragon transformed everything back, or it took only Yugi back in time.

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    Lol, Paradox is making a �3� face in there, but only because he's just talking and the screenshotter caught him at a wrong time. Yusei's faces, however... XD

    In Sin Paradigm Shift, you can see Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon. So in a way it's a mirror and yet opposite of Sin Paradox, nice.
    Thanks for the screenshots Arynis! amazing quality as usual ^^
    AND NOOOOOOOOO YUSEI!! T.T In the screenshot he looks pretty F'd o.o

    EDIT: I have to mention this, look at the screenshot where it shows Paradox's cards in his hand. Look at Sin World, from what i can see of it so far, it reminds me of Future Fusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    As I said, it depends on how the time travel is executed in a work. Those timelines may have not been created. In Chrono Trigger, you can travel in time back and forth, but a new timeline was created only when Lavos was defeated, with a future that wasn't ruined by Lavos.

    However, if only Yugi is brought back in time after Paradox destroyed Domino City, that may have been a new timeline branch where Yugi didn't exist since he was taken away by Crimson Dragon, and Sugoroku and Pegasus are dead. I'll have to see the movie if Crimson Dragon transformed everything back, or it took only Yugi back in time.

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    Lol, Paradox is making a �3� face in there, but only because he's just talking and the screenshotter caught him at a wrong time. Yusei's faces, however... XD

    In Sin Paradigm Shift, you can see Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon. So in a way it's a mirror (the looks are similar) and yet opposite (red - blue color) of Sin Paradox, nice.
    Thanks a lot Arynis !

    Your idea about the Crimson Dragon is possible.

    Paradox hasn't a good hand to start: he can't summon monter(s). Hopefully, there Sin World !

    The opposition between the two dragon is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allana View Post
    Thanks a lot Arynis !

    Your idea about the Crimson Dragon is possible.

    Paradox hasn't a good hand to start: he can't summon monter(s). Hopefully, there Sin World !

    The opposition between the two dragon is interesting.
    He can summon Sin Cyber End Dragon

    And thats a nice 4000 ATK monster straight off the bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    Hmmm. Aha!

    So basically, Yugi knew of Judai not by the final episodes of GX, but because of the movie's events!

    DM!Yugi meets postGX!Judai, and that's how he knows of him. That's why he gave him Winged Kuriboh (apart from Winged Kuriboh wanting to be Judai's card), and that's why he kept an eye for him as well. In Judai's and Yusei's view, this doesn't change a thing - Yusei is from the future, and that Judai was already post-series, so the movie affected Yugi only.

    Therefore, what happened in GX's final episodes can be disregarded from this view because Yugi already knew Judai thanks to the movie.

    Perhaps the Yugi from Judai's duel doesn't recognize him because it was really real for Judai only. Or the Yugi in question was a parallel universe Yugi (one which may have not met Judai by the movie's events), or... from a meta view, GX came before the movie and therefore the movie's changes may not be reflected in GX's story accordingly, for obvious reasons.
    This seems very likely to me! Judai is post GX Judai so remembers Yugi but Yuugi is Pre GX Yuugi so doesn't remember Judai but now knows how he's going to advance so gives him Winged Kuriboh at the start of GX.

    May be he thought "If I don't give him Winged Kuriboh he won't put Kuriboh Calling Flute in his deck and save my ass in the Movie!!" Lol!
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    Well if Hane Kuribo can time travel then it make sense that Stardust Dragon can destroy the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkWarrior View Post
    He can summon Sin Cyber End Dragon

    And thats a nice 4000 ATK monster straight off the bat
    It's Sin Cyber Dragon in his hand ! I didn't recognize him. He can summon a monster finally. Good eye JunkWarrior !

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    I guess Sin Claw Stream makes more sense than Sin Crow Stream

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    Yes, it came from the Extra Deck. Exact !

    And It's Sin Claw who is in his hand.

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    Seeing Paradox's cards are really exciting! One of the best bits of Yugioh for me is seeing other duelists holding the cards in their hands. I used to love seeing all the different duelists looking through their decks and drawing their cards just to see the cards on the Anime. Does that make sense??!!
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    Well if Hane Kuribo can time travel then it make sense that Stardust Dragon can destroy the world.

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    YGO 5D's Episode 95 10th Anniversary Alternate:
    Opening - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ywGe0PzPU
    Ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GACWtLw4Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkWarrior View Post
    YGO 5D's Episode 95 10th Anniversary Alternate:
    Opening - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ywGe0PzPU
    Ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GACWtLw4Y

    If you want me to upload them in HD just ask.
    Thanks a lot JunkWarrior !

    Sin World represents the space and the stars, It's beautiful ! Paradox is really very powerful !

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    Wonderful OP and ED, but I expected to see more of Yugi's play....but again I didn't. Anyway. I hope next 5D'S episode will also have alternative OP and ED with more cool scenes.

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    Great movie footage in today's 5D's. With all the disappointment about the apparent lack of focus on the backstory and character of Paradox, it's easy to forget that this movie will probably be really, really entertaining. I do love it when they write card names in English too, for that foreign sense. Shame they didn't go the whole way and put their effects in English too.

    I see the movie is not shy of once again showing us Pharaoh's private cat parts.

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    Staff Diary Update - 2010. 02. 03. http://www.yugioh10th.com/diary/

    Producer S would like to reveal a few secrets that would make the movie more enjoyable for those who watch the movie in the future.

    The first secret is something about Katsumi Ono.

    The second one seems to talk about how the staff got excited about the movie two days ago (before the release?) I have no idea, machine translation is confusing here...

    The third one shows the scenes Takahashi himself worked on. Here they are:



    Dark Yugi's looking good! Thank you, Takahashi!

    The last sentence is talking about secrets being concealed, but as I said, the machine translation is too weird here. Meh.

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    Takahashi had worked on the scenes ! Good new ! Katsumi Ono had participated on the movie but also on the 5d's anime. Maybe a secret concern his work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YYugi View Post
    YAAAAY, loved that scene of the ending ^^
    It makes me wanna watch he movie so hardly >_<
    I love the ending too. Man I want to watch the movie so badly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post

    The third one shows the scenes Takahashi himself worked on. Here they are:



    Dark Yugi's looking good! Thank you, Takahashi!
    I had a suspiction that Takahashi is involved into making the movie's character animation yet when I saw the third picture Dark Yugi. Not surprising, actually....He was happy to know that he'll see Yugi again and guess he was quite pleased to participate in making the character's animation style even for such a short scene. His style hasn't changed. It's wonderful that his style of drawing and that of Kagami fit so well in this movie. Dark Yugi looks amazingly good. Can't wait to see both types of animation in action.

    PS: JunkWarrior, if you have free time, you could upload the alternative OP and ED in HD. Usually False Memories upload the HD videos connected with the movie (and other things Yu-Gi-Oh-ish), but untill then, if you wish of course, you could do it by yourself.
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    Wow, sure does look amazing with the screenshots! I wonder if they'll continue showing these movie scenes for like 1 more week? It'd sorta spoil for us but fans just can't help but wanna be spoiled and yet not XDD

    I sincerely hope Pharaoh's private parts isn't in 3-D....

    EDIT: *snickers* Will they keep to like in 5D's season 1 where Yusei gets physical injury? I swear, poor guy! Well, atleast we can see that in 3-D!

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    Alternate HD
    Opening - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWbwW0dj8j0
    Ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uwr5l9y2Vc

    I uploaded them on my other account and not my 5D's account because I want to avoid having 2 of the same video.
    Just need to wait until it finishes proccessing fully then it'll be in HD
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    @Arynis

    I think what the Crimson Dragon did was literally do a "time rewind" in terms of scooping up Yugi and taking him into the past before Paradox did his grand entrance and mass murder at the Duel Monsters party and card hand out.

    Because if you notice..when Yugi traveled back in time, and Yubel chased away the crowd so there would be no collateral casualties during their 3 on 1 duel...there isn't a Yugi Muto from 20 minutes in the past. Yugi was literally scooped up from the Paradox attack time frame and isolated from the rest of the people in the timeline rewind thanks to the Crimson Dragon. There's no duplicate Yugi of the past existing simultaneously with the Yugi from the future who was scooped up after Paradox's attack.

    So the timeline was literally rewound. There was no split. The entire timeline was rewound, with Paradox's massacre nullified thanks to time travel. The Crimson Dragon is literally godly in terms of its powers because its somehow able to exist in a sense...outside of time itself.

    In regards to the new openings and endings featuring scenes from the movie. Wow...this duel is going to be awesome. I'm seriously loving the card artwork of Paradox's deck. And Sin World has officially won the "Coolest Looking Field Spell" award in all of YGO. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    @Arynis

    I think what the Crimson Dragon did was literally do a "time rewind" in terms of scooping up Yugi and taking him into the past before Paradox did his grand entrance and mass murder at the Duel Monsters party and card hand out.

    Because if you notice..when Yugi traveled back in time, and Yubel chased away the crowd so there would be no collateral casualties during their 3 on 1 duel...there isn't a Yugi Muto from 20 minutes in the past. Yugi was literally scooped up from the Paradox attack time frame and isolated from the rest of the people in the timeline rewind thanks to the Crimson Dragon. There's no duplicate Yugi of the past existing simultaneously with the Yugi from the future who was scooped up after Paradox's attack.

    So the timeline was literally rewound. There was no split. The entire timeline was rewound, with Paradox's massacre nullified thanks to time travel. The Crimson Dragon is literally godly in terms of its powers because its somehow able to exist in a sense...outside of time itself.

    In regards to the new openings and endings featuring scenes from the movie. Wow...this duel is going to be awesome. I'm seriously loving the card artwork of Paradox's deck. And Sin World has officially won the "Coolest Looking Field Spell" award in all of YGO. Wow.
    Yeah, I kind of realized sometime after posting just taking Yugi back wouldn't make sense. Because there would be duplicate Yugis... Which means 4 Yugis (2 Yugi, 2 Dark Yugi) in overall. FFFF, Attack of the Yugi Clones! Or things would get ****ed up because the Yugis meet, or at least they'd both suffer a severe headache from the encounter. XD

    And I agree with you on Sin World. It looks AMAZING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    Yeah, I kind of realized sometime after posting just taking Yugi back wouldn't make sense. Because there would be duplicate Yugis... Which means 4 Yugis (2 Yugi, 2 Dark Yugi) in overall. FFFF, Attack of the Yugi Clones! Or things would get ****ed up because the Yugis meet, or at least they'd both suffer a severe headache from the encounter. XD

    And I agree with you on Sin World. It looks AMAZING.
    LOL, see why Time Travel is so insane? XD

    This is why I don't think any duplicate or alternate timelines were created. Only one timeline is shown to exist within this movie, and that's the one that's being threatened by Paradox. What Paradox doesn't know however, is that the Crimson Dragon is apparently just as adept, if not more so, than he is.

    I also realized something as I watched how Paradox duels, and his apparent abilities with stealing monsters and inflicting damage with duel monsters.

    Is Paradox...a Super Psychic Duelist? He has all the abilities and features of psychic duelists! The ability to actually manifest monsters...the ability to inflict tangible, physical injuries to duelists with his monsters...and the ability to actually manifest the effects of magic and trap cards in reality. Paradox is damn Psychic Duelist from the future as well.

    I wonder what Sin World represents too? Why does it look the way it does..and what's it mean?

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    I still think that Yugi will remember jaden.Let's wait for the movie and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisedomaster View Post
    Has no one noticed that are all cards in English? Just the Kanji's over the Names are not english. ;D
    Yep, I have noticed xD

    Wheeee. Thanks JunkWarrior for uploading the OP and ED ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoeyes987 View Post
    LOL, see why Time Travel is so insane? XD

    This is why I don't think any duplicate or alternate timelines were created. Only one timeline is shown to exist within this movie, and that's the one that's being threatened by Paradox. What Paradox doesn't know however, is that the Crimson Dragon is apparently just as adept, if not more so, than he is.

    I also realized something as I watched how Paradox duels, and his apparent abilities with stealing monsters and inflicting damage with duel monsters.

    Is Paradox...a Super Psychic Duelist? He has all the abilities and features of psychic duelists! The ability to actually manifest monsters...the ability to inflict tangible, physical injuries to duelists with his monsters...and the ability to actually manifest the effects of magic and trap cards in reality. Paradox is damn Psychic Duelist from the future as well.

    I wonder what Sin World represents too? Why does it look the way it does..and what's it mean?
    Hey, since Time Travel isn't insane? ;) That's why I love it.

    Wasn't there something about the Psychic Duelists' power corresponding with their emotions? Aki was a lot more dangerous when she was mad (or controlled by Divine through the Trigger Phrase). Or it could be possible that the Duel Monsters are linked with their player, maybe technology just got even more advanced. Tamura stated Paradox carries grief on his shoulders, and seeing what he may have gone through, there must be powerful emotions manifested in him. Extreme sorrow over losing his world and great anger over the destruction's cause. It reminds me of the 12th Pokemon Movie, where Arceus and Giratina were filled with anger and their minds couldn't be read by Sheena at all, they were powerful enough to blow her away. Especially Arceus couldn't be stopped under any condition (apart from the fact that he is, well, pretty much God). Yet when the Pokemon are calm, she could communicate with them fairly easily...

    Paradox also has the ability to turn Monsters into Sin Monsters. Although by this point, they could've just referred to Sin World transforming them somehow, similarly to Toon World turning Monsters into Toons.

    Hahahaha, I was just talking in the chat about the meaning of Sin World. Then I saw your post. Hivemind, man, hivemind! :V Anyway, my take on Sin World:

    It appears to be a space field which transforms the entire area. Space is supposed to be vast and infinite, and in a sense, empty. It could represent the state of Paradox's future - the world is still vast, but nothing remains, he is alone. The Sin of mankind (their acts, or through Duel Monsters) have wiped everything out. The vast space is Paradox's loneliness, showing that this is the infinite end, the future is ruined.

    The way the Field Spell transforms the city has other meaning as well. We know that at this point, the reality is slowly falling apart from Paradox's changes. Paradox's goal is to destroy Duel Monsters, to eliminate the past to save the future (presumably destroying it, thus preventing the destruction from ever happening). The space field gives the place a semi-non existent appearance, as if it is still there, but it is about to be replaced by nothingness. As if the entire reality was warped into that state, the impending erasure, nothingness and loneliness...

    Why is it called Sin World? You could see the ruined future being the result of Duel Monsters/mankind's Sins, so in a sense, it is a world produced from that Sin.

    On a related note, I'd like to throw in Sin Paradox Dragon, Sin Truth Dragon and Sin Paradigm Shift as well. One may wonder why on earth would one need a Trap card to get Truth out (apart from playability and balance issues), but story wise, it perfectly makes sense.

    Now, we know a paradox is a seemingly contradictory statement that may nonetheless be true. But there's only a contradiction, neither statement is the victor. "Paradigm Shift" is altering one's perception of reality. When you look at a paradox in a different way, you may see that the statements alone do make sense, they represent something true. Therefore, there can be truth in such a group of statements despite the apparent contradictions, if you look at them in a different way (eg. individually).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    Hey, since Time Travel isn't insane? That's why I love it.


    Oh I do too, but it can definitely lead to headaches XD

    Wasn't there something about the Psychic Duelists' power corresponding with their emotions? Aki was a lot more dangerous when she was mad (or controlled by Divine through the Trigger Phrase). Or it could be possible that the Duel Monsters are linked with their player, maybe technology just got even more advanced. Tamura stated Paradox carries grief on his shoulders, and seeing what he may have gone through, there must be powerful emotions manifested in him. Extreme sorrow over losing his world and great anger over the destruction's cause. It reminds me of the 12th Pokemon Movie, where Arceus and Giratina were filled with anger and their minds couldn't be read by Sheena at all, they were powerful enough to blow her away. Especially Arceus couldn't be stopped under any condition (apart from the fact that he is, well, pretty much God). Yet when the Pokemon are calm, she could communicate with them fairly easily...
    Yeah, that makes sense. His emotions would definitely be very powerful. And very dark. Perhaps its that darkness that allows him to corrupt Duel Monster cards and make them Sin monsters. His own manifested darkness can literally steal and infect monsters, allowing them to become Sin monsters.

    Paradox also has the ability to turn Monsters into Sin Monsters. Although by this point, they could've just referred to Sin World transforming them somehow, similarly to Toon World turning Monsters into Toons.
    ...Wow, I didn't even think of that. You know, maybe that IS the case in terms of the movie. Maybe in the movie, the stipulation and effect of the Sin Monsters require Sin World to be in play, thus, in a figurative sense, Sin World IS responsible for the Sin monsters' existence. Sin World, like Toon World, creates these corrupted versions.

    Now I want to see the movie more, to see if your theory is correct. XD

    Hahahaha, I was just talking in the chat about the meaning of Sin World. Then I saw your post. Hivemind, man, hivemind! :V Anyway, my take on Sin World:

    It appears to be a space field which transforms the entire area. Space is supposed to be vast and infinite, and in a sense, empty. It could represent the state of Paradox's future - the world is still vast, but nothing remains, he is alone. The Sin of mankind (their acts, or through Duel Monsters) have wiped everything out. The vast space is Paradox's loneliness, showing that this is the infinite end, the future is ruined.

    The way the Field Spell transforms the city has other meaning as well. We know that at this point, the reality is slowly falling apart from Paradox's changes. Paradox's goal is to destroy Duel Monsters, to eliminate the past to save the future (presumably destroying it, thus preventing the destruction from ever happening). The space field gives the place a semi-non existent appearance, as if it is still there, but it is about to be replaced by nothingness. As if the entire reality was warped into that state, the impending erasure, nothingness and loneliness...

    Why is it called Sin World? You could see the ruined future being the result of Duel Monsters/mankind's Sins, so in a sense, it is a world produced from that Sin.
    ....Wow. That is a damn good analysis, and I think that's pretty spot on in terms of its reasoning. Sin World is a representation of the "sin" creating the empty world. And that future "sin" is the darkness that corrupts the cards and make up that archetype.

    On a related note, I'd like to throw in Sin Paradox Dragon, Sin Truth Dragon and Sin Paradigm Shift as well. One may wonder why on earth would one need a Trap card to get Truth out (apart from playability and balance issues), but story wise, it perfectly makes sense.

    Now, we know a paradox is a seemingly contradictory statement that may nonetheless be true. But there's only a contradiction, neither statement is the victor. "Paradigm Shift" is altering one's perception of reality. When you look at a paradox in a different way, you may see that the statements alone do make sense, they represent something true. Therefore, there can be truth in such a group of statements despite the apparent contradictions, if you look at them in a different way (eg. individually).
    Ahhh that makes sense too. That's very cool. LOL I only made it as far as Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon being a collective analogy of how a paradox, while contradictory and impossible, was also the truth, and thus there is a connection in time travel between objective truth and a paradox. XD

    But you took it much further in incorporating the trap card too. Awesome analysis.

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    From the pictures, i see that Sin World effect its much larger to just let him add 1 Sin instead of drawing in draw phase, it makes me thing that the effect that lets him control more than 1 Sin monster and allows them to attack its part of sin world's effect

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    Paradox had killed nobody because Crimson Dragon do come back everyone 30 minutes before he arrives. His actions to kill Pegasus and Sugoroku had never arrived.

    Psychics Powers are creayed by the pain. Maybe Paradox's Psychics Powers are created by the destruction of the world or even before this destructionby a unknown reason. His powers are more powerful and developped than Aki. Paradox's pain must be immense.

    Like Arynis had said, the space is a huge and a cold place: the stars symbolises this because it is impossible to interact with them. Paradox is the only human in this space and is alone. Except him, nobody lives in this place. Toon World is a place where the monsters lives, they had humor, they laugh, It's a sympathetic place.
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    Aww.. no SIN F.G.D, whoulda been over kill... i mean seriously a light monster can take it down, and guess what, the protagonists have light monsters...i think except dark magician, not sure about stardust dragon and neos... : / since IF IT WERE TO BE TRUE TAHT SIN FGD EXISTS then we need a protagonists' LIGHT MONSTER to kick its butt
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    Aww.. no SIN F.G.D, whoulda been over kill... i mean seriously a light monster can take it down, and guess what, the protagonists have light monsters...
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    actually i realized since im bored i might as well study up on the movie's whole duel, sin cards and make up MY OWN VERSION OF THE DUEL IN 10th Anniversary with SIN F.G.D
    Any suggestions? Links for Duel Syummary and Analyisis will be appreaciated,

    Im serious, i'm gonna make how ownage Paradox gonna be with the Sin F.G.D

    I might fail at making it, coz i dont remember yugi's full deck well, yusei on teh other hand i know some, jaden well, i only know his deck on arc 1 not the who e-hero or neos thing... : /

    Man this is gonna take a while, but i will do it, but i might fail so wish me luck and hope i can do this! : )

    I may not do it though if it's too much hassle, but if anyone wants pitch in and make it a joint project guys, i would love to make a joint team what-if-paradox has Sin F.G.D and duels the 3 fanfic so yeah....
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    Oh I do too, but it can definitely lead to headaches XD
    Nothing wrong with headaches. I say when something makes your head ache when you think about it, it's a good thing! =D ...But I see what you mean.

    Yeah, that makes sense. His emotions would definitely be very powerful. And very dark. Perhaps its that darkness that allows him to corrupt Duel Monster cards and make them Sin monsters. His own manifested darkness can literally steal and infect monsters, allowing them to become Sin monsters.
    Good point. After all, the cards represent their owner, so Paradox's darkness is so strong it can manifest in the form of Duel Monsters. Perhaps a similar thing happened that caused the future to be destroyed, but with people's "rotten" emotions ("Sin") being manifested instead?

    ...Wow, I didn't even think of that. You know, maybe that IS the case in terms of the movie. Maybe in the movie, the stipulation and effect of the Sin Monsters require Sin World to be in play, thus, in a figurative sense, Sin World IS responsible for the Sin monsters' existence. Sin World, like Toon World, creates these corrupted versions.

    Now I want to see the movie more, to see if your theory is correct. XD
    Sin Monsters could be brought out with any Field Spell, but Paradox uses Sin World which is used during the whole duel. It also makes a parallel with Pegasus' "I'll invite you into that world!" line. Just as Pegasus drew his opponents into Toon World, Paradox drew the protagonists into Sin World, his representation. Then there are the opposites between Paradox and Pegasus as the "Destructor" and Creator of Duel Monsters.

    ....Wow. That is a damn good analysis, and I think that's pretty spot on in terms of its reasoning. Sin World is a representation of the "sin" creating the empty world. And that future "sin" is the darkness that corrupts the cards and make up that archetype.
    Exactly!

    Ahhh that makes sense too. That's very cool. LOL I only made it as far as Sin Paradox Dragon and Sin Truth Dragon being a collective analogy of how a paradox, while contradictory and impossible, was also the truth, and thus there is a connection in time travel between objective truth and a paradox. XD

    But you took it much further in incorporating the trap card too. Awesome analysis.
    Yeah, that's the farthest I got myself, until it was revealed that Sin Truth's summoning actually requires Sin Paradigm Shift. Then I went "Hey, wait a second..." The Life Point cost could be seen as looking at the statements individually, one by one. Like, let's say there are two statements (Full LP) which make up the contradiction (Paradox), but then you look at the whole situation differently (Paradigm Shift), and you can see the truth in each statement (Truth, LP payment).

    And thank you! :] I'm hoping to bring the fullest out of Paradox's deck once the movie is out, because the context is also important for understanding a deck. For example, you couldn't understand the true meaning of the Toon Monsters until you hear Pegasus declare them as the "perfect lifeform" or stating they "can live forever and never die". It makes a great difference from looking at the cards themselves, or when you also know the context around them.

    I wonder if Paradox has a speech for summoning Sin Paradox Dragon? Or when he activates Sin World? One of the V-Jump issues (I think it was the one where unmasked Paradox was first revealed) did state that Tamura's acting allowed to bring out "Paradox's deep thought". I'm looking forward to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Allana View Post
    Paradox had killed nobody because Crimson Dragon do come back everyone 30 minutes before he arrives. His actions to kill Pegasus and Sugoroku had never arrived.

    Psychics Powers are creayed by the pain. Maybe Paradox's Psychics Powers are created by the destruction of the world or even before this destructionby a unknown reason. His powers are more powerful and developped than Aki. Paradox's pain must be immense.

    Like Arynis had said, the space is a huge and a cold place: the stars symbolises this because it is impossible to interact with them. Paradox is the only human in this space and is alone. Except him, nobody lives in this place. Toon World is a place where the monsters lives, they had humor, they laugh, It's a sympathetic place.
    Paradox may have still caused casualties in Venice, during the GX period. He did wreck the entire Basilica, after all.

    Indeed, but Toon Monsters were also somewhat insane looking. Under Pegasus' playful exterior was of a man torn by grief, which is represented by the dark buildings and the graveyard (In the OCG / TCG art, anyway) and the twisted look of the Toon Monsters.


    Quote Originally Posted by KENZZ View Post
    actually i realized since im bored i might as well study up on the movie's whole duel, sin cards and make up MY OWN VERSION OF THE DUEL IN 10th Anniversary with SIN F.G.D
    Any suggestions? Links for Duel Syummary and Analyisis will be appreaciated,

    Im serious, i'm gonna make how ownage Paradox gonna be with the Sin F.G.D

    I might fail at making it, coz i dont remember yugi's full deck well, yusei on teh other hand i know some, jaden well, i only know his deck on arc 1 not the who e-hero or neos thing... : /

    Man this is gonna take a while, but i will do it, but i might fail so wish me luck and hope i can do this! : )

    I may not do it though if it's too much hassle, but if anyone wants pitch in and make it a joint project guys, i would love to make a joint team what-if-paradox has Sin F.G.D and duels the 3 fanfic so yeah....
    You can find the Duel Summary on the first page of this thread, first post. It's under a spoiler tag.

    ~~~

    Oh, and the Interview section of the Movie site updated: http://www.yugioh10th.com/interview.html

    Now they have a video up with Chronos-san and Kaiser Kaiba talking about Sin Red-Eyes Black Dragon.
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    Nothing wrong with headaches. I say when something makes your head ache when you think about it, it's a good thing! =D ...But I see what you mean.



    Good point. After all, the cards represent their owner, so Paradox's darkness is so strong it can manifest in the form of Duel Monsters. Perhaps a similar thing happened that caused the future to be destroyed, but with people's "rotten" emotions ("Sin") being manifested instead?

    Sin Monsters could be brought out with any Field Spell, but Paradox uses Sin World which is used during the whole duel. It also makes a parallel with Pegasus' "I'll invite you into that world!" line. Just as Pegasus drew his opponents into Toon World, Paradox drew the protagonists into Sin World, his representation. Then there are the opposites between Paradox and Pegasus as the "Destructor" and Creator of Duel Monsters.

    Exactly!

    Yeah, that's the farthest I got myself, until it was revealed that Sin Truth's summoning actually requires Sin Paradigm Shift. Then I went "Hey, wait a second..." The Life Point cost could be seen as looking at the statements individually, one by one. Like, let's say there are two statements (Full LP) which make up the contradiction (Paradox), but then you look at the whole situation differently (Paradigm Shift), and you can see the truth in each statement (Truth, LP payment).

    And thank you! :] I'm hoping to bring the fullest out of Paradox's deck once the movie is out, because the context is also important for understanding a deck. For example, you couldn't understand the true meaning of the Toon Monsters until you hear Pegasus declare them as the "perfect lifeform" or stating they "can live forever and never die". It makes a great difference from looking at the cards themselves, or when you also know the context around them.

    I wonder if Paradox has a speech for summoning Sin Paradox Dragon? Or when he activates Sin World? One of the V-Jump issues (I think it was the one where unmasked Paradox was first revealed) did state that Tamura's acting allowed to bring out "Paradox's deep thought". I'm looking forward to it.




    Paradox may have still caused casualties in Venice, during the GX period. He did wreck the entire Basilica, after all.

    Indeed, but Toon Monsters were also somewhat insane looking. Under Pegasus' playful exterior was of a man torn by grief, which is represented by the dark buildings and the graveyard (In the OCG / TCG art, anyway) and the twisted look of the Toon Monsters.




    You can find the Duel Summary on the first page of this thread, first post. It's under a spoiler tag.

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    Oh, and the Interview section of the Movie site updated: http://www.yugioh10th.com/interview.html

    Now they have a video up with Chronos-san and Kaiser Kaiba talking about Sin Red-Eyes Black Dragon.
    Thanks a lot Arynis !

    Paradox must have a Synchro Speech. Why Paradox would have no Synchro Speech ?

    Yes, It's true, I forget the Basilica. The Toons looks a little evil, mad and insane also.

    The Graveyard in OCG/TCG can perhaps just represents a possibility of card game. Pegasus wants creates a card game interesting in which players can have several possibilities, not just a simple card game. He wants that the differents possibilities of play can interest more people than possible. Thanks to this, the card game is attractive, know and Pagasus earn money.

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    Thanks a lot Arynis !

    Paradox must have a Synchro Speech. Why Paradox would have no Synchro Speech ?

    Yes, It's true, I forget the Basilica. The Toons looks a little evil, mad and insane also.

    The Graveyard in OCG/TCG can perhaps just represents a possibility of card game. Pegasus wants creates a card game interesting in which players can have several possibilities, not just a simple card game. He wants that the differents possibilities of play can interest more people than possible. Thanks to this, the card game is attractive, know and Pagasus earn money.
    The Graveyard? Why the Graveyard in particular? The deck itself could represent possibilities - you never know what you will draw from your deck, what card(s) you could put to use on your turn. Or do you mean how just because a card is in the graveyard, it doesn't mean it can't be used anymore, because you can bring cards back from the graveyard for further use?

    ...Oh, wait. By graveyard, I meant the graveyard you can see in Toon World's card art, not the Graveyard where cards go after they are used. XD

    As for Pegasus and money, wasn't he rich enough to begin with? ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    The Graveyard? Why the Graveyard in particular? The deck itself could represent possibilities - you never know what you will draw from your deck, what card(s) you could put to use on your turn. Or do you mean how just because a card is in the graveyard, it doesn't mean it can't be used anymore, because you can bring cards back from the graveyard for further use?

    ...Oh, wait. By graveyard, I meant the graveyard you can see in Toon World's card art, not the Graveyard where cards go after they are used. XD

    As for Pegasus and money, wasn't he rich enough to begin with? ;p
    Aaah... ! The Graveyard on the Toon World's card art ! Sorry, I misunderstood your sentence. Learn to read Allana ! . You're right about the deck.

    And yes, Pegasusis enough rich when he starts Duel Monsters. His father has just a big casino in Las Vegas.

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    http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...&country=Japan
    It seems that the 10th Anniversary Movie is no longer in the Japanese Box Office. (I hope it still has time to return, though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lia View Post
    http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...&country=Japan
    It seems that the 10th Anniversary Movie is no longer in the Japanese Box Office. (I hope it still has time to return, though)
    -pushes movie to #1- ^^
    Why wouldn't they want Paradox as No. 1? -shifty eyes-

    Also the art on Sin World kinda reminds me of Future Fusion.
    And if anyone is still wondering why Paradox gets more than 1 Sin on the field and can attack with more than 1 Sin. Here is the reason why (its not because they changed the effects on the real card)

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    The controler of this card may control more than one "Sin" monster. All "Sin" monster you control can attack, even if you control another "Sin" monster.During your Draw Phase, you can add one "Sin" monster from your Deck to your hand at random instead of conducting your normal Draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lia View Post
    http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...&country=Japan
    It seems that the 10th Anniversary Movie is no longer in the Japanese Box Office. (I hope it still has time to return, though)
    Come back Box Office Paradox and protagonists !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allana View Post
    Aaah... ! The Graveyard on the Toon World's card art ! Sorry, I misunderstood your sentence. Learn to read Allana ! . You're right about the deck.

    And yes, Pegasusis enough rich when he starts Duel Monsters. His father has just a big casino in Las Vegas.
    It's alright! ^^ It happens.

    XD He did, indeed.

    Anyway... I'm wondering why did Paradox want to save his future? Was it for selfish reasons, or did he had someone he wanted to save? Or he felt humanity didn't deserve this fate? Or he simply didn't want to accept a world like this? But if the future was destroyed because of humanity's sin, why would Paradox want to save them, in that case? Or he wasn't aware of humanity's sin empowering Duel Monster cards / humanity's sin manifesting as Duel Monsters which then resulted in the world's destruction?

    Tamura did mention that Paradox "carries grief on his shoulders" and something along the lines of "has strong faith". Considering he possibly witnessed the world getting destroyed and was left as the only human in the world, he has impressive willpower.

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    -pushes movie to #1- ^^
    Why wouldn't they want Paradox as No. 1? -shifty eyes-
    Hmm. I think the movie's "lack" of success could be based on several factors. I recall 2CH discussing how today's kids may not be too familiar with GX and DM. It may also have to do something with the cast itself - take the Pokemon movies, for example, the cast is usually Ash, Brock and Misty/May/Dawn + main movie character. They are easily recognizable, but in the Yugioh movie's case, there are a lot of characters. They may not be familiar with Jonouchi, Ryo/Sho or who Johan was. The length may be also another reason (a lot of people weren't happy when the fact got out).

    Or it could be the timing. The box office is ruled by films such as Avatar now, which, by the looks of it, is rather hard to top right now. Still a pity to see, though.

    If it makes things better, the movie is still ranking as #9 on TOHO's site.

    Also the art on Sin World kinda reminds me of Future Fusion.
    And if anyone is still wondering why Paradox gets more than 1 Sin on the field and can attack with more than 1 Sin. Here is the reason why (its not because they changed the effects on the real card)

    Sin World
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    The controler of this card may control more than one "Sin" monster. All "Sin" monster you control can attack, even if you control another "Sin" monster.During your Draw Phase, you can add one "Sin" monster from your Deck to your hand at random instead of conducting your normal Draw.
    Same here, it looks quite like Future Fusion. However:



    I'm still waiting for a better quality raw to be out, but what is that over the city, that yellow thing?

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    Same here, it looks quite like Future Fusion. However:



    I'm still waiting for a better quality raw to be out, but what is that over the city, that yellow thing?
    I'm trying to make a better quality video of it. I'm going to upload a test now and see what its like

    EDIT: Arynis, I don't know is this is any better but it's the best I could do for now
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uOGOxYfAuA
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    Pictures of Jealkb (Haderu, his band and Ai Hiruna) - http://mainichi.jp/enta/mantan/graph/anime/20091204/
    I think they are from Haderu's birthday. We saw a video of it.

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    The pictures look cool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkWarrior View Post
    I'm trying to make a better quality video of it. I'm going to upload a test now and see what its like

    EDIT: Arynis, I don't know is this is any better but it's the best I could do for now
    Alt. Opening 1080p
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uOGOxYfAuA
    It's slightly better than the raw I have, but I can't see much of the card, still. ): The HQ Raw I'm waiting for has a pretty good resolution (1280x720) which should be sufficient enough, as it's big and clear enough.

    But thank you, either way! :]


    Quote Originally Posted by Lia View Post
    Pictures of Jealkb (Haderu, his band and Ai Hiruna) - http://mainichi.jp/enta/mantan/graph/anime/20091204/
    I think they are from Haderu's birthday. We saw a video of it.
    Pretty nice! But that news article was posted on Tamura's birthday, December 4.

    Also, on 2CH, they are speculating about next week's OP. One of the posters wondered if we might get to see Paradox's crazy faces.

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    Pretty nice! But that news article was posted on Tamura's birthday, December 4.
    The article appeared at the main page just today I think. May be the pics were added these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arynis View Post
    [FONT="Tahoma"]Also, on 2CH, they are speculating about next week's OP. One of the posters wondered if we might get to see Paradox's crazy faces.
    I hope so. I want to see "crazy" Paradox and a little from Yugi's play in the next alternative OP and ED. I hope there will be such, though.

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    Perhaps the opening and ending will show Sin Blue Eyes White Dragon and Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon. But I would see Paradox's crazy face.

    Maybe the yellow thing on Sin World is the Sun ?

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    Perhaps the opening and ending will show Sin Blue Eyes White Dragon and Sin Red Eyes Black Dragon. But I would see Paradox's crazy face.

    Maybe the yellow thing on Sin World is the Sun ?
    I thought of that, but the middle of the yellow thing is dark. I don't know, I don't think it would be the sun.
    Last edited by Arynis : 02/04/10 at 09:28 PM

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