Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Movie ~Super Fusion! Bonds That Transcend Time~

[63cohen]

I don't think this was posted here or not, but might as well. The Yugioh chalk art for the NYC con is actually of the 10th anniversary, a poster like thing. The interesting this is it is also an advertisement for Toonzaki. Perhaps this means we could be getting it subbed on Hulu/Toonzaki soon.

[Arynis]

Gotcha, GoldenUmi. This thread shall stay until the DVD date is announced, then.

And Cohen, that chalk sketch is amazing! The poster for the 10th Anniversary looks very impressive.

[Allana]

Wow, this poster is really impressive! If It's an advertisement for Toonzaki, perhaps It is the poster for the 10th Anniversary in USA? If they sub the movie on Toonzaki, I hope everybody could see it.

[Heather]

That chalk drawing was just amazing. It's great that it looks like there will be a big 10th Anniversary promotion in America. It also seems that Toonzaki is trying to please the fans quite a lot. Might 4Kids be finally understanding that there are a lot of fans who like to watch the series subbed? I hope so.

[Lia]

I have to admit I expected something more innovative and impressive for a poster concerning the tenth anniversary - especially about the character art. What is really impressive in the video is how the man is redrawing the little poster in way bigger surface only using chalk and without having to rub. x) So because of this - thanks for sharing, Cohen.
As Heather said - there will probably be a big tenth anniversary promotion in America, so hopefully we will see new, more creative and impressive posters with better art.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

How is it nonsense? Damn it. I know a lot of people who don't know the damn conclusion of gx. Jaden went to the stars and now he magically appeared in venice with a cat and a ghost teacher. Jaden also magically has yubel in him and has new clothes. There is need for an explanation.

Then they can look it up as was said. Stop trolling the thread with the same dealt-with ludicrous point that garnered the same response a dozen damn times. Either talk about something else, or leave.

4kids is dubbing the second season of 5ds. People will understand if they see sherry or bruno at the movie. I know ask you a question. What would happen if 4kids didn't dub the second season of 5d's? They would say this.

Except that Judai's Season 4 form has already been in Tag Force 3.

Who the hell is bruno? Who the hell is sherry? Not everyone watches yugioh from the internet. Some people just follow the series from the t.v beacuse they are not addicted to yuigoh as you are.

I'm not addicted. I can stop any time I want. I just don't want to.

I don't think the kids would care too much, Prismamaster. Honestly, it could be way worse for countries who were to get the movie despite 5D's and GX not having aired there at all, or any place which is behind on the franchise. (Granted, nothing is saying this will actually happen. I'm merely bringing up a theoretical situation for my argument.) And no one would explain the protagonists or anything else to us, really. We'd just find a forum, ask questions, maybe do research. Or if anyone's confused in the theater, explain it to them after the movie or something.

I was with you up until the research thing Arynis. Because lets face it; nobody does the research anymore.

And really, everyone who would bother with watching the movie would put effort into researching facts they don't know, regardless of the level of addiction. We're all fans, in the end. a

Damn straight.

...And this marks the magical 3000th post of the thread. Ding! Shall a new thread be made, or keep this one going for a while longer, like until the dub movie's release? (Like how this thread was made just before the movie's release, but that was more of a good timing of hitting the thread limit.)

Go ahead Paradox. Summon Sin Blue-Eyes. I'll summon this thread and kill it.

*Summons Sin Cyber End*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

(You have no idea how long I've wanted to say that.)

And this chalk art; for some reason I have yet to see it. Anybody got a url?

[Allana]

Go ahead Paradox. Summon Sin Blue-Eyes. I'll summon this thread and kill it.

*Summons Sin Cyber End*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

(You have no idea how long I've wanted to say that.)

And this chalk art; for some reason I have yet to see it. Anybody got a url?

Indeed, It's a way to exprims it! XD. I ddn't noticed that. Already 3000!

You mean the video? This the direct link to Youtube. I hope you can see it, It's impressive to see how It is done, step by step. This is an art drawn according a Toonzaki's picture.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Indeed, It's a way to exprims it! XD. I ddn't noticed that. Already 3000!

Yep. Glad you enjoyed it.

You mean the video? This the direct link to Youtube. I hope you can see it, It's impressive to see how It is done, step by step. This is an art drawn according a Toonzaki's picture.

I'll see if I can watch it.

[XERO_Slayer]

I liked that chalk drawing. Awesome!

[63cohen]

I have to admit I expected something more innovative and impressive for a poster concerning the tenth anniversary - especially about the character art. What is really impressive in the video is how the man is redrawing the little poster in way bigger surface only using chalk and without having to rub. x) So because of this - thanks for sharing, Cohen.
As Heather said - there will probably be a big tenth anniversary promotion in America, so hopefully we will see new, more creative and impressive posters with better art.

Yeah, it uses mostly stock art of Yusei and Judai while using something else of Atem (doesn't look stock). But still, it looks just as good as the guy's Soul Eater drawing (well, once colored we can compare; the whole gray will become colored in)

[YYugi]

Yeah, it uses mostly stock art of Yusei and Judai while using something else of Atem (doesn't look stock). But still, it looks just as good as the guy's Soul Eater drawing (well, once colored we can compare; the whole gray will become colored in)

The Atem image reminds me of the one that 4kids always putted in his summary of the previous episodes...
even so, it looks cool in big size

[DarkDust_Dragon]

The Atem image reminds me of the one that 4kids always put in his summary of the previous episodes...
even so, it looks cool in big size

That it does. (My computer is finally loading the video Cohen posted in his post; it wasn't showing up before.)

[Arynis]

Hrm, I have been going back to the whole "Orders to kill the Creator of Duel Monsters" tagline (yes, that one) and I'm wondering if it was just a beta concept that was possibly --or likely-- incorporated into the movie's plot. See, my previous assumption was Never Trust A Trailer, i.e. the tagline was just there to mislead us.

This came up during a discussion with Ark, actually. The tagline in question was first heard in 2009 October, from the Jump Festa trailer. The next time we saw it was the second movie trailer, released in the beginning of 2009 December. The tagline in question never popped up again in any promotional material whatsoever. In fact, it was omitted from the dub trailer footage shown at the World Championship.

Also noteworthy is that the Zero Reverse footage got updated between these periods.



Which leads me to believe that the trailer from December may have carried ideas which did not make it into the final version.

I checked every source (dialogue, Animation Book) and there was no single mention of Paradox acting under an order or whatsoever, nor hinted at. However, Paradox still kills Pegasus when he goes Dragon Rampage on Domino City, with saying "The hour of Fate..." beforehand. (I'm not saying this with 100% certainty, since we're without context with the lack of the movie itself and the actual scenes.)

So what I am thinking is that the concept was either worked into the movie with Paradox killing Pegasus to change history, or it was dropped as per What Could Have Been. Alternately, the idea may be reused in some form when Paradox makes his debut in 5D's? (However, Jirou has made no statements about any roles as of late in his blog, if it matters.)

-- So, how did Paradox come to be?
Yoshida: About the original character, Paradox, there was the issue that the 3 Main Characters were separated by their settings. So we needed a special character not quite hostile towards any of our settings, but could also be linked into the current story of 5D's. So, if you want to know the true colors of Paradox, please check 5D's later on. (Laugh)

...On which note, as you can see above, Ark translated the entire movie staff interview for us. Go check it out, if you haven't done so yet. The staff is quite cool and the interview clears up a lot of things regarding how the movie was handled.

The length of the movie, and to an extent, the length of the duel, for one thing. We know one of the reasons already, which was avoiding eyesore with the kids. The other reason is, as the staff stressed, is that they wanted to make the movie more broad so even non-fans can watch it.

They referred to a "previous movie" (which me and Ark assumed to be Pyramid of Light, for which Hikokubo co-wrote the story along with Junki Takegami), about how dense it was. When you think about it, you couldn't really enjoy POL unless you were a fan of the series and possibly being familiar with Egyptian Mythology. Then there was the duel. While entertaining, it was fairly long which a normal person may have found boring. Then there is the general theme of time travel, which people may be more used to, due to it being used in several Summer Blockbusters (Back To The Future triology comes to mind, or Doctor Who in terms of TV series, which also aired in Japan). Which would also explain the duel length; they went for something short and something that would still showcase the best of the protagonists.

The amount of characters make sense this way as well. The movie was focused on the protagonists to begin with, and too many characters could have possibly overshadowed them and/or the plot. 5D's and Yusei's friends give a setting to work from. Pegasus worked as a plot hook, while Sugoroku took the role of Sexy Grandpa Fanservice! (Did I just say that? Then again, he was quite a looker...) Let's face it, as awesome Kaiba would have been to be in the movie, he would have dragged the entire movie away with him, along with the focus.

I could see it being similar to the New Series of Doctor Who. Add enough elements for the fans to shake a stick of geekiness at, but not enough details to alienate newcomers to the franchise (such as omitting Autons being referred to as Autons).

However, if it makes any fan of the characters who were left out of the movie feel better, Takeshita, the movie's director, expressed interest in doing another movie with the other characters, if they can get to do it (that is, given permission).

[YYugi]

Hrm, I have been going back to the whole "Orders to kill the Creator of Duel Monsters" tagline (yes, that one) and I'm wondering if it was just a beta concept that was possibly --or likely-- incorporated into the movie's plot. See, my previous assumption was Never Trust A Trailer, i.e. the tagline was just there to mislead us.

This came up during a discussion with Ark, actually. The tagline in question was first heard in 2009 October, from the Jump Festa trailer. The next time we saw it was the second movie trailer, released in the beginning of 2009 December. The tagline in question never popped up again in any promotional material whatsoever. In fact, it was omitted from the dub trailer footage shown at the World Championship.

That trailer just promoted the appearance of the three protagonists, not even Paradox was explained. <--Rewatched the trailer xD
Remember, 4kids and now Toonzaki don't make any mention of death or things that relate to it.
Lucky them at the end of the movie it was like if nothing of that happened.

Also noteworthy is that the Zero Reverse footage got updated between these periods.



Which leads me to believe that the trailer from December may have carried ideas which did not make it into the final version.

The one at the bottom left looks like the one showed at AxA but at grayscale.

...On which note, as you can see above, Ark translated the entire movie staff interview for us. Go check it out, if you haven't done so yet. The staff is quite cool and the interview clears up a lot of things regarding how the movie was handled.

Read the interview, It was a good reading, thanks Neo Arkadia

[Arynis]

Yes, it did, but it also had a segment of the December trailer. As for the death issue, death is not allowed in the TV series due to Network Censors / Media Watchdogs. But we're talking about a movie here, which can get away with a lot more things.

I think the dub preview may have been in color as well, but it looks like that due to the recording quality. Unless it is in greyscale. Any memory on that, preview watchers? (Kyte, etc.)

[YYugi]

Yes, it did, but it also had a segment of the December trailer. Good point on the death thing, though. I forgot about that. But remember, Anubis did say "die" in Pyramid of Light. If they went that far in that movie, I don't see why they'd remove the death references this time around. Besides, this is a movie, which may be exempt from such Network Censors?

Because this time it happens for real.
Or maybe because they don't want little kids to be scared of Paradox before watching the movie.

(must check that Anubis' line)

[Arynis]

Anubis said "It is no longer time to duel. Now it is time to die!" I might be paraphrasing, though.

And err, I edited my post while you replied to it, sorry. :x But yeah. Pyramid of Light got away with a lot more things compared to the TV series, due to it being a movie.

[YYugi]

Anubis said "It is no longer time to duel. Now it is time to die!" I might be paraphrasing, though.

And err, I edited my post while you replied to it, sorry. :x But yeah. Pyramid of Light got away with a lot more things compared to the TV series, due to it being a movie.

Oh, Now I remember! Thanks Arynis ^^

I was also thinking that.
But, until we see the movie we can say.
And no problem about the edit.

[63cohen]

Just like to point out Toonzaki isn't the same as Toonzai. Toonzaki is this. Toonzai is this. Quite a difference, and the former has been very nice to us teens, while Toonzai hasn't said a word to the fandom.

Considering the bottom of the chalk art shows the Toonzaki logo, I think it is safe to assume the movie will be used to advertise the site and vise-versa. And we can expect if subbed/dubbed, death will be mentioned when needed. But remember, this movie is quite clean regardless.

[YYugi]

Just like to point out Toonzaki isn't the same as Toonzai. Toonzaki is this. Toonzai is this. Quite a difference, and the former has been very nice to us teens, while Toonzai hasn't said a word to the fandom.

Considering the bottom of the chalk art shows the Toonzaki logo, I think it is safe to assume the movie will be used to advertise the site and vise-versa. And we can expect if subbed/dubbed, death will be mentioned when needed. But remember, this movie is quite clean regardless.

Thanks clearing up that Cohen, I was mistaking Toonzai with another forum that I remember has a similar name and thinked Toonzaki was 4kids O_O
So thats why toonzaki is realizing the episodes subbed. . . (too bad its not available for all the world )
And I thinked 4kids changed... What a mistake.

[NeoArkadia]

Except they have changed with the Subs.

And their dubbing with 5D's is trying to stick closer to the original storyline, give or take errors and cultural differences.

The only reason people not in the US can't see it isn't a fault with 4kids but with Hulu AND your country's TV Networks for not getting in on the action.

Geezum, you people are stuck in 5 years ago.

[Allana]

I didn't noticed this. They can have shown the Zero Reverse scene from anime in the preview because It is almost identical to the udpated scene and they want to save a little effect of surprise for the fans: no doubt If they have shown the udpated scene in the preview fans would have noticed this.

Hear the word "death" is the dub stay possible, It was apparent in Pyramid of Light dub. Even If they don't pronunce it in the dub, fans will obviously understand Paradox is died at the end of the movie, the fans, even young aren't stupid.

About Pegasus, It make sense If scripters can have finally decided to mention Pegasus and his fate in 5d's. Paradox wants to kill Pegasus and Paradox appears in 5d's...

[NeoArkadia]

Hear the word "death" is the dub stay possible, It was apparent in Pyramid of Light dub. Even If they don't pronunce it in the dub, fans will obviously understand Paradox is died at the end of the movie, the fans, even young aren't stupid.

This is because the Pyramid of Light movie was a movie and not aired on TV. Networkss like FOX (formerly), The WB (formerly) and TheCW4kids have issues with Death and the like being mentioned. Realistic firearms cannot be shown and have to be lasers. Death and Die are usually taboo as to keep a cartoon politically correct. Heck, the hero Spiderman was not allowed to be shown harming or disrupting pigeons in a cartoon from like 1994.

POL didn't have to deal with the issues and restrictions because movies for children (at least in America) are allowed to get away with a lot more crap than TV Networks allow 30 minute cartoons to get away with.

So expect Death. Die. Dead. Unless I've failed to notice a crackdown there since forever.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hrm, I have been going back to the whole "Orders to kill the Creator of Duel Monsters" tagline (yes, that one) and I'm wondering if it was just a beta concept that was possibly --or likely-- incorporated into the movie's plot. See, my previous assumption was Never Trust A Trailer, i.e. the tagline was just there to mislead us.

There are some things that just cannot be lied about in trailers. That particular one runs the risks of generating negative reviews.

[QUOTE]This came up during a discussion with Ark, actually. The tagline in question was first heard in 2009 October, from the Jump Festa trailer. The next time we saw it was the second movie trailer, released in the beginning of 2009 December. The tagline in question never popped up again in any promotional material whatsoever. In fact, it was omitted from the dub trailer footage shown at the World Championship.[QUOTE]

Then again, the footage shown didn't have the crush scene either...

Also noteworthy is that the Zero Reverse footage got updated between these periods.



Which leads me to believe that the trailer from December may have carried ideas which did not make it into the final version.

The footage on the left is taken directly from the second opening. My guess is they used it because the redo of the footage wasn't finished, or because they wanted to remind people of what happened in the show.

I checked every source (dialogue, Animation Book) and there was no single mention of Paradox acting under an order or whatsoever, nor hinted at. However, Paradox still kills Pegasus when he goes Dragon Rampage on Domino City, with saying "The hour of Fate..." beforehand. (I'm not saying this with 100% certainty, since we're without context with the lack of the movie itself and the actual scenes.)

So what I am thinking is that the concept was either worked into the movie with Paradox killing Pegasus to change history, or it was dropped as per What Could Have Been. Alternately, the idea may be reused in some form when Paradox makes his debut in 5D's? (However, Jirou has made no statements about any roles as of late in his blog, if it matters.)

Well... until we see him in 5D's, we cannot know.

...On which note, as you can see above, Ark translated the entire movie staff interview for us. Go check it out, if you haven't done so yet. The staff is quite cool and the interview clears up a lot of things regarding how the movie was handled.

The length of the movie, and to an extent, the length of the duel, for one thing. We know one of the reasons already, which was avoiding eyesore with the kids. The other reason is, as the staff stressed, is that they wanted to make the movie more broad so even non-fans can watch it.

YMMV, but I think the may have overdone it a bit...

[QUOTE]They referred to a "previous movie" (which me and Ark assumed to be Pyramid of Light, for which Hikokubo co-wrote the story along with Junki Takegami), about how dense it was. When you think about it, you couldn't really enjoy POL unless you were a fan of the series and possibly being familiar with Egyptian Mythology. Then there was the duel. While entertaining, it was fairly long which a normal person may have found boring. Then there is the general theme of time travel, which people may be more used to, due to it being used in several Summer Blockbusters (Back To The Future triology comes to mind, or Doctor Who in terms of TV series, which also aired in Japan). Which would also explain the duel length; they went for something short and something that would still showcase the best of the protagonists.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure most people know who Anubis was. He's the third most famous Egyptian God, after Ra and Osiris. And I liked the long duel; it's good to see a back-and-forth that isn't bogged down by 10 minutes of tirades per turn.

The amount of characters make sense this way as well. The movie was focused on the protagonists to begin with, and too many characters could have possibly overshadowed them and/or the plot. 5D's and Yusei's friends give a setting to work from. Pegasus worked as a plot hook, while Sugoroku took the role of Sexy Grandpa Fanservice! (Did I just say that? Then again, he was quite a looker...) Let's face it, as awesome Kaiba would have been to be in the movie, he would have dragged the entire movie away with him, along with the focus.

Apparently that idea was dropped with GX. Yubel makes sense because... well, she's fused into Judai; but Daitokouji was unnecessary (though fun to see again).

I could see it being similar to the New Series of Doctor Who. Add enough elements for the fans to shake a stick of geekiness at, but not enough details to alienate newcomers to the franchise (such as omitting Autons being referred to as Autons).

However, if it makes any fan of the characters who were left out of the movie feel better, Takeshita, the movie's director, expressed interest in doing another movie with the other characters, if they can get to do it (that is, given permission).

AWESOME.

Anubis said "It is no longer time to duel. Now it is time to die!" I might be paraphrasing, though.

Nope; that's the exact line.

And err, I edited my post while you replied to it, sorry. :x But yeah. Pyramid of Light got away with a lot more things compared to the TV series, due to it being a movie.

Yep. They could have gotten away with even more. Of course, Season 4 of GX has even more stuff like that, and some stuff in 5D's is probably as well (come on, Kiryu shot a guy IN THE HEAD with his monster...)

[63cohen]

To clarify, WB is now the CW, and they are the ones who request what is of the Y-7FV rating 5Ds needs to have. They made Popo blue, censored the words "Goku is _____" and other things in Kai as well. 4kids makes shows for broadcast so they can air it on their block at anytime without problems, which is why episodes of 5Ds and GX that aired on CN first were not edited any differently (no unedited cards ...).

[NeoArkadia]

To clarify further, that's not entirely true. The CW was made from a joint venture of Time Warner's Warner Brothers and The CBS Corporation. Might not be exactly the same, but I would not be surprised if employees from each side were kept on. And the cartoon block for The CW was inherited from The WB's KidsWB when the networks merged.

But yeah, the main reason 4kids dubs the way it does is to get past the demands of Network Executives and Standards & Practices, who demand these changes. Might seem ridiculous to us, but they make sense to them.

At least they aren't as crazy as Hungary was over Duelist Kingdom, who cited it as too violent, too complex, and too frightening for children to watch it.

[63cohen]

Hungary, Hungary .... and here I thought Americans were the most protective of their children.

[Arynis]

Haha. Yeah, it's all true. Long story short, we had YGO aired in the same timeslot originally reserved for Pokemon (I think it was between 8 and 9 AM, I don't remember). When the Television Board caught it, they went bonkers, rated the series PG-12, and penalized the channel by suspending it for 30 minutes on a certain Saturday. In other words, nothing was broadcast during the duration of the penalty, only a message was displayed saying that according to so and so law, they violated things and this suspension is the penalty. It was even worse that the channel kind of dropped YGO after that, and people thought the whole rating mess caused the channel to abandon the series. Others said it was because the series merely finished its Season 1 run and the channel did not buy the rest. We'll never know the truth, I guess.

I assumed the whole thing was due to Value Dissonance, especially with the Television Board pointing out qualities that were common for anime and such. Still, that won't make it any less retarded.

Then again, the same Television Board banned Dragonball from being aired because they deemed it way too violent.

[NeoArkadia]

To be fair, Dragonball Z is fairly violent, all things considered, even if there's a lot of fantasy violence.

[Allana]

So there no chance POL airs to the TV.

About the issue death in Hungary, It's also true in France for channels for childrens, they also banned today almost all references to the death execept for somes old animes still aired. If you want to see a manga, you must watch them on specials channels, who are paying. Only one free channel air a little manga but not a lot. It's pretty weird when you think there 10 years ago, mangas was aired without problems on free channels. I guess times changes...

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Hungary, Hungary .... and here I thought Americans were the most protective of their children.

Protective? I'd call it 'controlling', but okay. And apparently no, anyway.

To be fair, Dragonball Z is fairly violent, all things considered, even if there's a lot of fantasy violence.

You call that violent? Either we're horribly desensitized, or something's up.

So there no chance POL airs to the TV.

About the issue death in Hungary, It's also true in France for channels for childrens, they also banned today almost all references to the death execept for somes old animes still aired. If you want to see a manga, you must watch them on specials channels, who are paying. Only one free channel air a little manga but not a lot. It's pretty weird when you think there 10 years ago, mangas was aired without problems on free channels. I guess times changes...

Really? Canadian Television has no real problems with death, and anything Canadian-made can make reference to death; but seeing as there are no Canadian companies who do anime dubs, we're stuck with American watered-down stuff.

[Arynis]

About the issue death in Hungary, It's also true in France for channels for childrens, they also banned today almost all references to the death execept for somes old animes still aired. If you want to see a manga, you must watch them on specials channels, who are paying. Only one free channel air a little manga but not a lot. It's pretty weird when you think there 10 years ago, mangas was aired without problems on free channels. I guess times changes...

We based our dubs on the 4kids dub, which means no death reference (or minimal amount of it) to begin with. However, the Media Watchdogs did go bonkers over Kaiba telling Yugi he would commit suicide if Yugi attacked for the win. (This was original in the 4kids dub as well.)

But yeah. The show was aired in the same timeslot Pokemon was (I forgot to add that Pokemon has no rating given, so it's acceptable for all ages), which may have been a cause of the rage. And basically how children under seven (or just very young children in general) would have a hard time understanding the story concepts or even certain words (e.g., Polymerization).

If any of you want to read the report in which they detailed their reasons, give me a holler. It's in Hungarian (obviously) and Google Translate does not do the best job at translating, so I could translate the report. (Or at least give a lengthier, paraphrased summary.)

[Nexus]

Yay! The 10th anniversary movie pack is released!!!

[Allana]

Really? Canadian Television has no real problems with death, and anything Canadian-made can make reference to death; but seeing as there are no Canadian companies who do anime dubs, we're stuck with American watered-down stuff.

Unfortunatly, yes. You don't have problems with this issue? Interesting and in same time I'm not surprised: I already saws some Canadian dubs and they are pretty accurate.

We based our dubs on the 4kids dub, which means no death reference (or minimal amount of it) to begin with. However, the Media Watchdogs did go bonkers over Kaiba telling Yugi he would commit suicide if Yugi attacked for the win. (This was original in the 4kids dub as well.)

It was for this reason? If It was original 4kids dub, It's themselves had understand even the childrens would have understood what happening in the scene.

But yeah. The show was aired in the same timeslot Pokemon was (I forgot to add that Pokemon has no rating given, so it's acceptable for all ages), which may have been a cause of the rage. And basically how children under seven (or just very young children in general) would have a hard time understanding the story concepts or even certain words (e.g., Polymerization).

It can be a reason, indeed. But they could simply change the line and everydoby could be satisfied.

If any of you want to read the report in which they detailed their reasons, give me a holler. It's in Hungarian (obviously) and Google Translate does not do the best job at translating, so I could translate the report. (Or at least give a lengthier, paraphrased summary.)[/QUOTE]

By curiosity, what they said in in a short summarize?

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Yay! The 10th anniversary movie pack is released!!!

He's not lying. Well, except that the set is only announced thus yet.

Unfortunatly, yes. You don't have problems with this issue? Interesting and in same time I'm not surprised: I already saws some Canadian dubs and they are pretty accurate.

Not really. Canadian children are presemued to be able to handle more than American children - we don't shield them as much. Coincidentally, we have less youth crime.

And yes, Canadians try and get this stuff right. We feel we owe it to the original.

[yami14]

already has provision for when the movie comes out for download or on DVD??

[Arynis]

Not in 2010.

@ Allana: I'll get the report translation/summary done tomorrow.

[XERO_Slayer]

He's not lying. Well, except that the set is only announced thus yet.



Not really. Canadian children are presemued to be able to handle more than American children - we don't shield them as much. Coincidentally, we have less youth crime.

And yes, Canadians try and get this stuff right. We feel we owe it to the original.

Heh, it seems the more protective you are, the more corruption it can lead to. XD

Also, yay at the Movie Pack!

[DarkDust_Dragon]

already has provision for when the movie comes out for download or on DVD??

...What?

Heh, it seems the more protective you are, the more corruption it can lead to.

Children must be shown the faults of the world, so they know to avoid them.

Also, yay at the Movie Pack!

I agree. I've thought about what cards would go in the pack. It was 9 cards, 7 new, one repirint is Sin Red-Eyes. Sin Truth makes sense as the other, but doesn't really matter. The 7 new are more fun.

With the right errata, all 4 monsters can be printed, which would leave 4 slots for Spells and Traps. Sin Paradigm gets written off, since it has no use. Sin World it pretty much a given. Sin Force and Claw Stream seem too weak to warrant printing, and Sin Selector is far too broken. With the right rewording, Sin Tune and Sin Cross could be released, and would lend draw and revival to an arhcetype that could use them.

So, my guess for the pack:

Sin Red-Eyes (known)
Sin Truth
Sin Cyber End
Sin Rainbow (both of these reworded with proper Sin effects)
Sin Parallel Gear (reworded to actually work)
Sin Paradox (reworded to be less broken)
Sin World (modified effect)
Sin Cross (modified effect with new cost/conditions)
Sin Tune (same as Sin Cross)

If this is not the list, I'll eat my Deck.

[Hisui]

Sin Parallel Gear (reworded to actually work)

Mm, the only dilemma there is, how do you reword it to actually work? Nothing in the game can ignore the mechanic of "Only 1 Sin monster can be face-up on the field". Negating effects isn't sufficient since not even Skill Drain removes that clause. It'd have to be renamed to not be a Sin monster at all in which case it's... alittle awkward on the whole.


For that reason alone, I might remove him as a choice lol.

[Makoeyes987]

The pack isn't just going to be a Paradox pack. There's more to it than just the Sin series, guys.

Junk Gardna (Yusei's only new monster) and Yugi's two new Dark Magician cards are pretty obvious choices for a printing.

[NeoArkadia]

I do think most of the Sin Dragons would be sensible to print, though. And some sort of nerfed Sin World for them. Do also expect Junk Gardna.

But yeah, definitely expecting Sin Cyber End, and Sin Rainbow Dragon, though I'd hope they'd have some sort of summoning Sickness or other condition to keep them under control, because 4000 ATK without some restrictions holding them down? Hahaha, no.

[XERO_Slayer]

I do think most of the Sin Dragons would be sensible to print, though. And some sort of nerfed Sin World for them. Do also expect Junk Gardna.

But yeah, definitely expecting Sin Cyber End, and Sin Rainbow Dragon, though I'd hope they'd have some sort of summoning Sickness or other condition to keep them under control, because 4000 ATK without some restrictions holding them down? Hahaha, no.

Not to mention that our infamous machine dragon pet can inflict piercing damage too...

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Mm, the only dilemma there is, how do you reword it to actually work? Nothing in the game can ignore the mechanic of "Only 1 Sin monster can be face-up on the field". Negating effects isn't sufficient since not even Skill Drain removes that clause. It'd have to be renamed to not be a Sin monster at all in which case it's... alittle awkward on the whole.

Give him the Eccentric Boy effect and let it Tune with a Sin in your hand.

The pack isn't just going to be a Paradox pack. There's more to it than just the Sin series, guys.

Could be, or it may just be an all Sin pack.

Junk Gardna (Yusei's only new monster) and Yugi's two new Dark Magician cards are pretty obvious choices for a printing.

What about the three Traps - the Spiral Forces and Stardust Mirage? They'd be worth printing too.

I do think most of the Sin Dragons would be sensible to print, though. And some sort of nerfed Sin World for them. Do also expect Junk Gardna.

Definitely.

But yeah, definitely expecting Sin Cyber End, and Sin Rainbow Dragon, though I'd hope they'd have some sort of summoning Sickness or other condition to keep them under control, because 4000 ATK without some restrictions holding them down? Hahaha, no.

Other than the Sin restrictions, you mean?

[Hisui]

Other than the Sin restrictions, you mean?

You'd have to hope so. Otherwise Geartown decks can drop a 4000 Sin CED whenever they want and Limiter Removal it if it'll do enough for game. x.x;

Sin CED's status as a fusion deck card, and a Machine, with that high ATK, puts it at a different splash level than the other Sins lol.

That's a neat idea for Parallel Gear though. I hadn't thought of that. ^^;

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Sin CED's status as a fusion deck card, and a Machine, with that high ATK, puts it at a different splash level than the other Sins lol.

Yes it does; exceppt that with Cyberdark-Dragunity soon to be viable, Sin Truth can be milled with Future Fusion as a Cyberdark Dragon target. Still nothing to compare though.

That's a neat idea for Parallel Gear though. I hadn't thought of that. ^^;

I thought of it awhile ago, and put it to good use.

[63cohen]

Perhaps they will give out this pack come Spring, for us TCG players.

[NeoArkadia]

If it's designed for a TCG/OCG joint release, I'd have to guess Sin Truth Dragon as the reprint. As the TCG has Sin Blue-Eyes and Sin Stardust.

[cashman_11]

If it's designed for a TCG/OCG joint release, I'd have to guess Sin Truth Dragon as the reprint. As the TCG has Sin Blue-Eyes and Sin Stardust.

I agree with this, if the TCG/OCG both get this, that would make the most sense.

[DarkDust_Dragon]

Perhaps they will give out this pack come Spring, for us TCG players.

That woul,d be great. I've wanted to play these every since I saw Sin Blue-Eyes.

If it's designed for a TCG/OCG joint release, I'd have to guess Sin Truth Dragon as the reprint. As the TCG has Sin Blue-Eyes and Sin Stardust.

Yep, that's the logic.