Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D Bonds Beyond Time

[Lia]

Guys I found a bit of the movie...

http://allnewfun.wetpaint.com/page/All+New+Videos

Enjoy guys!

The movie starts 50 seconds in.

I'm pretty much fine with any kind of videos we receive about the movie. I really enjoyed this, even by only listening to the dialogue. 4KID'S did not-so-bad this time. The BGM also sounds good. I really like that exact music right after Dark Yugi says "It's time to duel!" You know...when the 3 of them are activating their duel disks. Very nice sound. x) Yugi's transformation music also sounds pretty cool this time...even with the annoying "Yuuugiiiioooooooh" part in it. xD Impatient to listen xD part 2 when it's being uploaded tomorrow.
Thanks for the link, Darkinfernal. Much appreciated.
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BTW, the next video in the movie's FB page is with the producer Shane Guenego. Accourding to him, since his mom loved the movie xD, you're gonna love it too. xD
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EDIT: Now when I listened to the dialogue more carefully, I found these 2 lines in the dub for pretty irritating ones:
Yugi: We don't care about you back story, we just care about keeping our world save.
(Yugi's definitely not in character here :/)
Yusei: No, our future is a great one.
(Oh, Yusei...still one and the same with you. =_=)

Overall, everything else...at least for now xD...sounds fine.

There were 2 lines by Paradox, which I liked:
- Where I came from is why I'm here.
- When there's a will, there's a way. And there was will. (Really strong words.)

But, is Judai calling Paradox "One sick puppy" or my ears are deceiving me??? Or it's "One sick puppet"

[darkinfernal]

Great news guys Part 2 and 3 are up now...

http://allnewfun.wetpaint.com/page/Y...DS+BEYOND+TIME

As always the movie starts about 50 seconds in.

[63cohen]

Don't you just love America, where you can whip out a camera and start recording with little to not punishment?

Mega-Kuriboh FTW. Looked so much better in 3D though.

[Valkaris]

Don't you just love America, where you can whip out a camera and start recording with little to not punishment?

Your idols would call that kind of thinking "un-American."

But yeah. Can't wait to see this again, only with better quality. And hopefully a Japanese voice + music track on the DVD (not likely).

[63cohen]

Your idols would call that kind of thinking "un-American."

But yeah. Can't wait to see this again, only with better quality. And hopefully a Japanese voice + music track on the DVD (not likely).

Well, it was asked why none of the Japanese did this, but there laws exists that forbid it (laws that are strongly enforced, unlike American copyright laws which are usually dead water claims, relying on the owner of the property to do something, rather than the government)

I don't think anything else, such as the OST, could really affect the enjoyment. And I don't understant Japanese, so this was great being in English.

[Valkaris]

Well, it was asked why none of the Japanese did this, but there laws exists that forbid it (laws that are strongly enforced, unlike American copyright laws which are usually dead water claims, relying on the owner of the property to do something, rather than the government)

I know, I just think you of all people saying "thank god for stealing films!" is hilariously ironic.

I don't think anything else, such as the OST, could really affect the enjoyment. And I don't understant Japanese, so this was great being in English.

We already have your opinion on the OST and dub. And naturally, I meant with subs.

Still, from the quality shown, looks like a fun film.

[YaminoRPG]

Well, it was asked why none of the Japanese did this, but there laws exists that forbid it (laws that are strongly enforced, unlike American copyright laws which are usually dead water claims, relying on the owner of the property to do something, rather than the government)

I don't think anything else, such as the OST, could really affect the enjoyment. And I don't understant Japanese, so this was great being in English.

It's not just that Cohen. Honesty and respect are a prime part of Japanese culture. This is why they have such a low crime rate compared to other countries. It's something I really admire about Japan. I wish the west had such honour.

[63cohen]

Perhaps it was because of sarcasm, but the way people are in America is very different from those compared in other countries. We are must have people. I saw the movie in theater, so I don't care, and couldn't care as the only thing it is good for is the noise.

Well, crime rate in America has always been high, due to many reasons. One big reason is the diversity. In Japan, there is no diversity. In America, it is all diversity.

But yeah, that is a tad off topic. I am neither glad nor upset with this. I just feel the quality is too bad to really matter.

[Siliva]

Well, it was asked why none of the Japanese did this, but there laws exists that forbid it (laws that are strongly enforced, unlike American copyright laws which are usually dead water claims, relying on the owner of the property to do something, rather than the government)

I don't think anything else, such as the OST, could really affect the enjoyment. And I don't understant Japanese, so this was great being in English.

The OST affects my enjoyment of the dub anyway, so why wouldn't it affect my enjoyment of the movie? Granted the dub's music was relatively well-done, but it still would have been better with the original music.

But, Your Mileage May Vary and all that.

[YaminoRPG]

We are must have people.

Hence the invasion of Iraq, must have that oil aye lol. (I can't tell if this is sarcasm as I believe that's why Bush invaded).

I actually found the soundtrack on this worse than the series. It just seemed so....amateurish but I guess that is because we get the glorious Japanese version. Also Paradox voice was terrible, no way did it suit him. I would have got someone like David Warner to voice him.

[63cohen]

I don't know why everyone loves the Japanese OST, it isn't something so special. It is just something there. It sometimes gets in the way too, considering the Japanese record at only 2.5.

I think Sean was the perfect choice. It really resonated in the theater "That is Paradox".

[YaminoRPG]

I don't know why everyone loves the Japanese OST, it isn't something so special. It is just something there. It sometimes gets in the way too, considering the Japanese record at only 2.5.

I think Sean was the perfect choice. It really resonated in the theater "That is Paradox".

But a 2.5 record of a quality score vastly compensates a horse dropping in surround sound. Come on Cohen, I know you're pro dub but you must have some taste. Surely you can see the vast majority of the dub stuff is bland. I'll admit over the years it had some okish bits like the Pegasus theme but compared to anything the Japanese have, its cheap and tacky.
Often the music feels as if its just there, it serves no purpose, or that the person making it is just playing randomly along to the show to cover scenes with some sort of music. It lack soul, substance and often decent rhythm.

[63cohen]

It is better, but it really isn't that much better.

All dubbing companies record in 5.1. Japanese actually use 2.0

[Makoeyes987]

That is the most F.O.S. statement I've ever heard. The Japanese OST runs circles around the dub's "my first cassio" synth crap that's produced most of the time. I'm sorry, but any series that can actually get a full on orchestra or band to produce it's tracks and actually compose music, wins by default.

[Valkaris]

That is the most F.O.S. statement I've ever heard. The Japanese OST runs circles around the dub's "my first cassio" synth crap that's produced most of the time. I'm sorry, but any series that can actually get a full on orchestra or band to produce it's tracks and actually compose music, wins by default.

But...but...but it's "cleaner!" It's cleaner, Mako!

[YaminoRPG]

It is better, but it really isn't that much better.

So your saying Clear mind, Yusei Battle, Atlas Theme and the Zone flying theme are on par (or slightly higher) than the US dub music?

Well I know tastes differ, I mean I know what it's like not to understand why something popular is popular. For example I think David Tennant cannot act his way out of a paper bag. I guess I just can't see why you like the dub so much, to me it's about as annoying as a Conservative MP saying "we're all in this together".

[Makoeyes987]

For tastes to differ, there must be some sort of taste to begin with. Comparing Clear Mind, Yusei Battle, or any of that to the dub's tracks is like comparing a Salisbury steak to filet mignon.

[YaminoRPG]

For tastes to differ, there must be some sort of taste to begin with. Comparing Clear Mind, Yusei Battle, or any of that to the dub's tracks is like comparing a Salisbury steak to filet mignon.

I so agree. The main reason I stopped watching the dub (and remember a dub is more beneficial for someone with my disability) was because the music was awful and often drowned out the dialogue. It just ruined all sense of atmosphere. At times it felt like someone playing the Mr Blobby theme song at a funeral or Garry Glitters my gang at a nursery open day. Highly inappropriate and ruins the event.

[Valkaris]

I can listen to Cannibal Corpse in 7.1 High Def, or I can listen to The Beatles in basic stereo.

DECISIONS, DECISIONS.

Sound quality does not equate to musician quality, for the same reason that a film with a higher budget isn't inherently better.

[GymLeaderLance99]

I don't know why everyone loves the Japanese OST, it isn't something so special. It is just something there. It sometimes gets in the way too, considering the Japanese record at only 2.5.

And the dub's music is? The Japanese episodes have more moments of silence in one episode than the dub tends to have in a whole series; the dub not only plays music over those silent moments, but most of the music they choose to use doesn't match what's going on all that much. The Japanese OST has tracks to convey moods of comebacks, standoffs, victory, impending doom/loss, tough attacks, tension, and all that good stuff that persists the whole time a track plays (see "Strategies", "Mysterious", "Wrath of God", "Battle of the Gods", and "Passionate Duelists" in DM, "Coming Back from a Hopeless Situation", "Attack", "A Powerful Threat" and "Impossible Victory" in GX, and "Counterattack" and "A Looming Threat" in 5D's for some examples), but the dub doesn't exactly replicate the same feelings with most of their music (though, this is mostly how I feel about GX's stuff; 5D's has been improving somewhat music-wise lately, but for me, it's still not as good some of the time), and whatever pieces they use that are good, that do fit, they end up cutting off a few seconds later to play something else (their Earthbound God theme, for one, would actually be pretty good if it was used for a longer period of time).

Of course, it all comes down to opinion, so if you find the dub's score to be good, then enjoy it (I do on some occasions).

[63cohen]

I don't even know why i try. Yugioh doesn't even have the greatest soundtrack compared to some American cartoons, but yeah, no need to argue this one. Attack the original at anything and expect backlash. I won't be surprised if my rep went down. Don't care.

[Makoeyes987]

I don't even know why i try. Yugioh doesn't even have the greatest soundtrack compared to some American cartoons, but yeah, no need to argue this one. Attack the original at anything and expect backlash. I won't be surprised if my rep went down. Don't care.

Don't tuck that tail too far now! *rolls eyes*

And maybe contemporary YGO you may be right, but DM had a very sophisticated and well done soundtrack preformed by actual professional Japanese orchestra. I call BS on that statement as well.

[YaminoRPG]

I don't even know why i try. Yugioh doesn't even have the greatest soundtrack compared to some American cartoons, but yeah, no need to argue this one. Attack the original at anything and expect backlash. I won't be surprised if my rep went down. Don't care.

Name an example excluding Zim because we all know that's awesome.

[Valkaris]

I don't even know why i try. Yugioh doesn't even have the greatest soundtrack compared to some American cartoons, but yeah, no need to argue this one. Attack the original at anything and expect backlash. I won't be surprised if my rep went down. Don't care.

Saying you don't care and calling attention to what you're worried about is the fastest way to let everyone know that you care.

[63cohen]

Don't tuck that tail too far now! *rolls eyes*

And maybe contemporary YGO you may be right, but DM had a very sophisticated and well done soundtrack preformed by actual professional Japanese orchestra. I call BS on that statement as well.

We are discussing 5Ds here. When the Duel Monsters tracks played, they would be much better, but it doesn't really affect enjoyment that much. For many Janime users it does, but for users like me, it really wouldn't so it that much.

Note the silent moments claim doesn't work here as there were silent moments in the dub movie.

EDIT: Oh no, I already know who will post next. I'm out of here until it is over, if that person posts

[ScarletWeather]

We are discussing 5Ds here. When the Duel Monsters tracks played, they would be much better, but it doesn't really affect enjoyment that much. For many Janime users it does, but for users like me, it really wouldn't so it that much.

Note the silent moments claim doesn't work here as there were silent moments in the dub movie.

EDIT: Oh no, I already know who will post next. I'm out of here until it is over, if that person posts

...Way to cover that you're trolling for someone now, Cohen :<

Dude, really, you should start citing sources even when talking about stuff like OSTs. Saying generic things like "Some AMERICAN cartoons" (for some reason I'm imagining every time you say America in your post being read in LittleKuriboh's Bandit Keith voice) really doesn't help prove your point. Citing the cartoons? That might.

I haven't heard the dub OST so I'm staying out beyond saying that historically, 4Kids dubs have had music provided by the lowest possible bidder, so while their sound quality may be improved their musical quality is certainly nowhere near the original's. Also, arguing that sound quality is an advantage somehow implies that because "the Japanese" record only in 2.1 or whatever, amazing work like Yui Kajiura's stuff for Tsubasa, .hack, or Madoka is below the quality of the average dub OST.

I mean, obviously, "No Matter What" is far superior to "Magia" or "Obsession". Just listen to that SOUND QUALITY.

[XERO_Slayer]

Not all dub themes are bad. I mean, I personally love Toon World dub theme, Kaiba's Hacking Theme, and Millennium Battle. But the others made valid points. As Mako said, the original version had pros in orchestra performing the music. And it's not wrong to like the dub or anything, but if you wanna attack the original, you ought to have good reasons to do so, especially in the case of YGO.

[Valkaris]

Note the silent moments claim doesn't work here as there were silent moments in the dub movie.

Were there as many? Were they placed in the same areas? Did they have the same dramatic implications as the original?

Now, I haven't seen the original version of the film, but going off history? I'd have to say the safest bet is noooo~

[Siliva]

You guys can stop raping this thread now. http://www.janime.eu/threads/53523-English-Dub-Soundtrack-VS-Japanese-Soundtrack

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[Prismamaster]

I don't like Yubel's new voice. Why did 4kids change her voice? DAMN YOU 4KIDS!

[63cohen]

I don't like Yubel's new voice. Why did 4kids change her voice? DAMN YOU 4KIDS!

A move. Yubel's old VA moved.

[Prismamaster]

A move. Yubel's old VA moved.

No way. Wasn't Yubel's VA also Alexis's VA? This sucks.

[63cohen]

No way. Wasn't Yubel's VA also Alexis's VA? This sucks.

No, it was the same as Leo and Luna. Their voices changed as well due to the move. Cassandra Morris, look her up.

[Kyte]

Well, there are themes that was pretty cool in dub. GX, not at all, really. But in DM and 5D's, some cool ones, just they kinda reuse them a lot and sometimes older themes also. Toon World's theme I friggin loved, same goes for Orichalcos and the God Card themes. But, do prefer orchestral music, however.

I liked Yubel's new voice, its much deeper and fitting, for me it was too light in the GX dub. I couldn't tell if it had the man-like voice due to the echo.

[Siliva]

I quite like Yubel's new voice, actually. A lot more than the GX dub's Yubel. :V

[Prismamaster]

That new voice doesn't fit Yubel at all. I am going to watch the Japenese version. In my opinion,4kids dubbed this movie horribly.It's awful.

[GymLeaderLance99]

I also liked Yubel's new voice, and thought it fit it more. Why they felt they had to go with it sounding (and, by extension, acting) like a little girl is beyond me.

@Kyte: There was a hint of a man-like voice back in 130 during Yubel's backstory, but I think that was the only time, and even then, it sounded like just voice editing.

[YYugi]

EDIT: Now when I listened to the dialogue more carefully, I found these 2 lines in the dub for pretty irritating ones:
Yugi: We don't care about you back story, we just care about keeping our world save.
(Yugi's definitely not in character here :/)
Yusei: No, our future is a great one.
(Oh, Yusei...still one and the same with you. =_=)

But, is Judai calling Paradox "One sick puppy" or my ears are deceiving me??? Or it's "One sick puppet"

About the lines you mention, true, Yugi said a completely different line in Japanese (acording to the script translation).

About Yuusei, you wouldn't think he said that, do you?
In Japanese (scripts again) Paradox tells him that if he changes the future Satellite and Neo Domino won't be separated, then he tells them that he came from a future in ruins.
And then Yuusei just repeat the line of Paradox about the future in ruins.

Oh and looks like Im not the only one that heard that xDDDD

[Digitalgirl]

About the lines you mention, true, Yugi said a completely different line in Japanese (acording to the script translation).

About Yuusei, you wouldn't think he said that, do you?
In Japanese (scripts again) Paradox tells him that if he changes the future Satellite and Neo Domino won't be separated, then he tells them that he came from a future in ruins.
And then Yuusei just repeat the line of Paradox about the future in ruins.

Oh and looks like Im not the only one that heared that xDDDD

I believe the dub changed quite a few lines. I could swear I remembered reading a part of the script where Jaden didn't deny Yusei's claims about the timeline, compared to the dub where he denied them over and over and over.

[Lia]

Well, as the person who has taken this camera rip said - "The movie may be low quality, but it's good enough to watch free...In a way." xD
Now when I fully listened to the dub version, I'll probably save it on my PC along with the original, which is something I didn't do with PoL. The music was pretty good one, there were no ridiculous censors (from what I could see) and the characters' lines didn't sound too far-fetched. Only a small part of the lines didn't sound on place, but overall 4KID'S did well. [If only they were so careful with DM once upon a time. xD]

[63cohen]

For what the script was worth, it got the job done.

[YaminoRPG]

For what the script was worth, it got the job done.

That like a toiler cleaner wiping around the bowl whilst leaving the shit still stuck on the inside and calling it done. A half ass job does get "something" done, but it clearly shows it was a half arse attempt.

[63cohen]

That like a toiler cleaner wiping around the bowl whilst leaving the shit still stuck on the inside and calling it done. A half ass job does get "something" done, but it clearly shows it was a half arse attempt.

I never implied it was half assed. It was good, and got the job done.

[EvilAzn]

A few things the movie lacked was the vibe, the energy and the lack-luster feel the dub movie had against the Japanese version. At least epic scenes felt epic in the Japanese version. The dub movie didn't seem like it bothered and it went all bizarre and bland. You could tell the voice of Jaden changed his voice from the start of the film to the end, it just didn't feel right having a grown up voice break half way through the movie and revert back to young Jaden voice. Aside from that, they could have had edited the cards with English text or leave it alone but, that's 4kids for you.

One plus; Dan Green's voice basically made all other voices moot in terms of a quality comparison. Even if the Pharaoh has the voice of a 40 year old, it at least sounded a lot better than whiny Yusei.

With the music scores, I can't believe someone would defend the garbage from 4kids. Ever since they dubbed GX, the quality of their scores have dropped a hundred fold. I'll give them a little bit of credit for Duel Monsters music score because of the Orichalcos Theme but, that was it. Japanese BGMs are great because they can speak for the scene, e.g. if it's Rua's Signer unraveling, we have music that can conjure up the feeling that both a new power has awakened and the hope towards victory. Whilst the dub for GX just plays happy music when Jaden is winning; it doesn't change to reflect the situation like Jap GX's Impossible Victory (Haou vs. Jim) or Excited Duelists (Judai v.Yugi) .

[Lia]

We all know that the original japanese movie will be much better, but we can't deny that 4KID'S have made some efforts to make the script and the music pretty decent. Although 4KID'S are known for their crappy dubbing, this time they at least desrve some pat on the shoulder exactly for this effort. I can't deny that I'm eagerly looking forward to the moment when I'll watch the movie with its original script and music with high quality. x) But I can't categorically say that the movie's english dub is a complete trash, because at least this one time it isn't.

[Kyte]

Well, to be honest, from what I've read the Japanese script, I'd say the dub movie made it better. I know it sounds blasphemy, but the original is quite serious besides a few lines here and there, but that's it. Would feel dull. And yeah, original music would've made it probably better but but I still really liked the score used. I tremendously enjoyed the movie (now the cake line is an inside joke between me and my friend who we both cosplay Judai and Yusei) which is why I'll see it again on Sunday not just because its the movie, but that I really liked its dubbing.

Also, I didn't see Judai pull that infamous face expression Kagami always drew for Jonouchi.....Around what time was it again when he supposedly does it?

[Arynis]

If the Chinese summary from the BBS is any indication, Judai does the Jonouchi face when Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl take down Sin Paradox Dragon.

[Kyte]

I think he did the pose but Judai always does that pose, but not the face from what I recall.

[Megatronmaster]

Wow the Joey face, thats one of my favourites. Hopefully onr day ill be able to see this movie.

[Lia]

I think he did the pose but Judai always does that pose, but not the face from what I recall.

Well, that should be the scene where Judai does the famous Jonouchi face:

Spoiler: Now Judai do the Jonouchi face

Sort of...

But as YYugi said....he's sort of doing it.