Yu-Gi-Oh! 3D Bonds Beyond Time

[63cohen]

Both. But i'll mostly play White.


The movie was pretty sweet, though of course at this point i pretty much knew how everything would go lol. Not much to add really, the music was decent with few scores that would actually sound great, the script was decent by 4KIDS standards (though i did facepalm more than once...) and well the 3D was cool.
Meanwhile Jou and Kaiba are in an alleyway dying a slow death and Yugi is non the wiser about it...

The ignorance (not the rude form, not knowing form) of the script writer to not include any other of Yugi's friends, even in passing, is odd. If you are doing such a big movie, to celebrate the 10th anniversary, use some of the background characters, like Joey or Kaiba or Chazz or Alexis (sorry if dub names offend). 5Ds had all of its side characters shown, even ones like Yanagi. It is just not as special to not have from the other series. I can compare this to if Turtles Forever didn't include Rocksteady or April from the old cartoon.

[Heather]

The ignorance (not the rude form, not knowing form) of the script writer to not include any other of Yugi's friends, even in passing, is odd. If you are doing such a big movie, to celebrate the 10th anniversary, use some of the background characters, like Joey or Kaiba or Chazz or Alexis (sorry if dub names offend). 5Ds had all of its side characters shown, even ones like Yanagi. It is just not as special to not have from the other series. I can compare this to if Turtles Forever didn't include Rocksteady or April from the old cartoon.

It's the one thing that disappoints me about seeing the film is that I won't see Manjoume in glorious 3D. Damn you scriptwriters for not making Paradox want Armed Dragon LV10

[Makoeyes987]

No one knows why NAS went all limp in terms of making this 10th Anniversary movie epic and filled equally with characters from all 3 series. Maybe they were afraid of investing too much money in it or something, but yeah. It's kinda stupid they only made it 50 minutes in the end, and made it basically a 5Ds movie with cameos from the other 2 series.

[sd2000]

I didn't see the movie, but why did Paradox choose to abduct Dragon and Dragon-like monsters?

[Makoeyes987]

I didn't see the movie, but why did Paradox choose to abduct Dragon and Dragon-like monsters?

Because he has a dragon fetish. Some of the strongest monsters in YGO history are dragons, ergo, he went after them to massacre Pegasus.

[63cohen]

No one knows why NAS went all limp in terms of making this 10th Anniversary movie epic and filled equally with characters from all 3 series. Maybe they were afraid of investing too much money in it or something, but yeah. It's kinda stupid they only made it 50 minutes in the end, and made it basically a 5Ds movie with cameos from the other 2 series.

Well, it does start off with Jaden being attacked in Venice, but other than that, yes, total 5Ds with cameos.

[Yuuki Judai]

No one knows why NAS went all limp in terms of making this 10th Anniversary movie epic and filled equally with characters from all 3 series. Maybe they were afraid of investing too much money in it or something, but yeah. It's kinda stupid they only made it 50 minutes in the end, and made it basically a 5Ds movie with cameos from the other 2 series.

I just assumed that it was because 5Ds is the current series, and it made sense to give it more of the promotional spotlight. D; Would've been nice to see more DM and GX characters, though.

[Makoeyes987]

Even then, leaving it as only 50 minutes long is still ridiculous. And while 5Ds is the current series, that doesn't mean it should get more "special" treatment.

[Yuuki Judai]

Even then, leaving it as only 50 minutes long is still ridiculous. And while 5Ds is the current series, that doesn't mean it should get more "special" treatment.

I agree, but I'm not so sure NAS / KONAMI / TV Tokyo / whoever else was making money offa this saw it the same way. xD;

[XERO_Slayer]

IIRC, wasn't the movie supposed to originally be a 30 minute short OVA? If so, maybe when they decided to make it a full-fledged movie in theaters, they simply expanded the original plot and some stuff originally planned out more. Just my speculation.

[Hisui]

Odd note: Having actually seen some of the duel finally, wouldn't Paradox have actually won if he'd attacked the attack mode Black Magician with Sin Truth instead of Sin BEWD? The attack landed, and Sin Truth's effect activated afterwards, but the only reason the protagonists won is because... Paradox chose to do 500 battle damage then attack directly for 5000 rather than simply do 2500 battle damage and win right there?

...I'm not surprised or anything given that Yusei passed up two opportunites to OTK Z-ONE for narrative padding, but worth noting.

[ShiningStardust]

To note on the voice changes, according to TV tropes, Solomon was voiced by Wayne Grayson, and Yubel was voiced by Eileen Stevens. Evyone else was the same, as far as I can tell.

I liked Yubel's new voice, BTW.

[63cohen]

Odd note: Having actually seen some of the duel finally, wouldn't Paradox have actually won if he'd attacked the attack mode Black Magician with Sin Truth instead of Sin BEWD? The attack landed, and Sin Truth's effect activated afterwards, but the only reason the protagonists won is because... Paradox chose to do 500 battle damage then attack directly for 5000 rather than simply do 2500 battle damage and win right there?

...I'm not surprised or anything given that Yusei passed up two opportunites to OTK Z-ONE for narrative padding, but worth noting.

Jaden would have just activated Flute of Summoning Kuriboh whenever Malefic Truth attacked, letting epic Kuriboh come earlier.

To note on the voice changes, according to TV tropes, Solomon was voiced by Wayne Grayson, and Yubel was voiced by Eileen Stevens. Evyone else was the same, as far as I can tell.

I liked Yubel's new voice, BTW.

About that, behindthevoiceactors confirms it, since they only post when they have direct evidence. I am assuming the evidence was the credits of the movie.

[Valkaris]

Jaden would have just activated Flute of Summoning Kuriboh whenever Malefic Truth attacked, letting epic Kuriboh come earlier.

Truth Dragon's anime effect happens when ANY Sin monster destroys, though, and it deals 1000 for each monster destroyed.

So Sin BEWD would destroy Neos, dropping them to 600 through its effect. And then he'd use Sin Cross to bring back Sin Stardust and attack directly...with Flute already used.

An alternative he could use is to activate Flute to get Winged Kuribo in response to Truth's effect, destroying it to negate any further battle damage from Sindust's attack, but he'd still take 3000 damage instead of 2000 damage from the effect because of an extra monster on the field.

I was skeptical of this at first too, but then I remembered that Truth Dragon's anime effect is wildly different.

EDIT: If you wanna get into specifics, I think Sin Truth's negation of Stardust's destruction effect shouldn't work in the first place, because Stardust NEGATES and destroys it. :/ Paradox shouldn't be able to remove a Sin from the grave in the first place to negate its destruction.

So either way, huge duel writing issue.

[MorningMoon]

OH YEAH I JUST REMEMBERED!!

Jaden: *something about fusing his monsters, fighting side by side or something*... you get the best of both worlds!

Me: *FACEPALM!* (Hannah Montana reference?! D<) oh god..

[63cohen]

OH YEAH I JUST REMEMBERED!!

Jaden: *something about fusing his monsters, fighting side by side or something*... you get the best of both worlds!

Me: *FACEPALM!* (Hannah Montana reference?! D<) oh god..

That phrase has been around long before Hannah Montana. That is lile saying 4kids was referencing Slim Shady with the episode "Will the Real Jack Atlas Please Stand Up".

[Kyte]

I noticed that they called Pegasus 'cold-hearted' in the recap. And that in the newspaper article, Pegasus was 'missing' but Yusei and Jaden clearly makes it seem that he was killed.

[Arynis]

No one knows why NAS went all limp in terms of making this 10th Anniversary movie epic and filled equally with characters from all 3 series. Maybe they were afraid of investing too much money in it or something, but yeah. It's kinda stupid they only made it 50 minutes in the end, and made it basically a 5Ds movie with cameos from the other 2 series.

According to the FAQ on the official site, they made the movie shorter due to 3D shenanigans. They didn't want people to get eyestrains due to the movie being extremely long, so they went for the "not too short but not too long" route. Of course, that gets us back to "Why 3D?"...

...'Cause it's SCREEN POPPING SREE DEE~~~!

Because he has a dragon fetish. Some of the strongest monsters in YGO history are dragons, ergo, he went after them to massacre Pegasus.

So Paradox sent "dragons" to "massacre" Pegasus? Sounds good enough to me!

I noticed that they called Pegasus 'cold-hearted' in the recap. And that in the newspaper article, Pegasus was 'missing' but Yusei and Jaden clearly makes it seem that he was killed.

Pfff ahaha, cold-hearted. Then again, that's what he was. A ruthless man stomping anyone in his way for the sake of his goal, despite wanting to save a stranger thief in Egypt by passing up all his money when he was younger.

[XERO_Slayer]

3D because they want the fans to gloat at a big DMG pumping herself and a giant furry ball going flying. >.<

[magicneos]

Odd note: Having actually seen some of the duel finally, wouldn't Paradox have actually won if he'd attacked the attack mode Black Magician with Sin Truth instead of Sin BEWD? The attack landed, and Sin Truth's effect activated afterwards, but the only reason the protagonists won is because... Paradox chose to do 500 battle damage then attack directly for 5000 rather than simply do 2500 battle damage and win right there?

Nop. If Sun Truth Dragon had attacked Black Magician, Yugi and Judai could have activated their Spirals Force, Then, Black Magician�s attacks points would be 10000 and Paradox would lose. Equally, Yugi could have activated his Spiral Force against Blue Eyes and also would have won the duel. Or Yugi could have play de-fusion in his turn, then activate Black Twin Burst and finally the Judai�s Neos Spiral Force.( Black Magician attack points =9000). Then Black Magicians attacks Sin Paradox Dragon and Yugi wins.

Simply, the writers wanted to win Yusei, so Yugi and Judai become idiots and forget theirs Spiral Forces on the Paradox turn.

[Lia]

Some new camrips popped up on YouTube again. x)
1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SPlGAp_jI
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55sBYZuIHbE

[Arynis]

3D because they want the fans to gloat at a big DMG pumping herself and a giant furry ball going flying. >.<

You forgot Aki's boobs.

Simply, the writers wanted to win Yusei, so Yugi and Judai become idiots and forget theirs Spiral Forces on the Paradox turn.

...Dude, the other protagonists got enough recognition and shine as well, despite the derpy duel coming from Hikokubo's pen. I believe that has been established several times enough.

And last time I checked, while it was technically Stardust's attack, all three ace monsters attacked Paradox and Sin Truth Dragon. It wasn't just Stardust going, "LOOK AT ME, I'M THE STAR OF THIS DUEL AND I'LL HAVE SIN TRUTH TO MYSELF~".

[Lia]

Nop. If Sun Truth Dragon had attacked Black Magician, Yugi and Judai could have activated their Spirals Force, Then, Black Magician�s attacks points would be 10000 and Paradox would lose. Equally, Yugi could have activated his Spiral Force against Blue Eyes and also would have won the duel. Or Yugi could have play de-fusion in his turn, then activate Black Twin Burst and finally the Judai�s Neos Spiral Force.( Black Magician attack points =9000). Then Black Magicians attacks Sin Paradox Dragon and Yugi wins.
Simply, the writers wanted to win Yusei, so Yugi and Judai become idiots and forget theirs Spiral Forces on the Paradox turn.

Don't take this so to heart. It's true that the plot was mainly Yusei and Stardust Dragon centered, but Yugi and Judai played a great deal too. There were times in the duel when each of the three needed the skills of the other two. There's no need to start such fan-warlike discussion again. What's done is done already, so just accept it and enjoy the movie moments you like, while not paying attention to those which annoy you. So far nothing YGOish has been done perfectly, so all the fans around the world to be completely satisfied. There will always be something that the franchise won't like. xD That's just it.

[magicneos]

Hey, I'm not complaining that Yugi and Judai had less protagonism, that I've accepted. I was just explaining that Paradox never had chance to win, and if he not lost before, was because the writers nerfed Yugi and Judai, when they could have won. Because is an obvious fact that in order to be Yusei whoever wins, Yugi and Judai becomes idiots, they could have won the duel in several occasions. Because we're going, it's stupid not to activate any Spiral Force when Blue Eyes attacking Black Magician. Seriously, I can not understand that going through the minds of Yugi and Judai at that moment, because if activated only Spiral Force, they won the duel. Instead decide to let them kill their monsters. There is no logic in that action.

If the writers wanted to win Yusei (because although it is called 10th Aniversary Movie is a 5D film, closely related to the plot of the same serie) could have done differently, but the reality is that Yugi and Judai are like idiots, because they could have won by activating a simple card trap and did not. Is forced and looks bad.

You forgot Aki's boobs.



...Dude, the other protagonists got enough recognition and shine as well, despite the derpy duel coming from Hikokubo's pen. I believe that has been established several times enough.

And last time I checked, while it was technically Stardust's attack, all three ace monsters attacked Paradox and Sin Truth Dragon. It wasn't just Stardust going, "LOOK AT ME, I'M THE STAR OF THIS DUEL AND I'LL HAVE SIN TRUTH TO MYSELF~".

But the sequence is only symbolic. If only they had turned a standard card "Attack Union" would be better to leave all three together (and with 7500 ATK had more than enough to kill paradox). For example, Black Magician and Black Magician Girl unite their powers, as the Twin Black Burst is a card that makes him a monster of its force to another (in that case, there is feeling of unity, because reallythe Black Magician gains the power of BMG) , but in the case of Stardust's not even that, Neos and Black Magician limited to double the attack of Stardust, but I really do not combine their powers.

[Lia]

I understand your indignation, but we aren't the ones who write the duel.

[Heather]

Some new camrips popped up on YouTube again. x)
1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SPlGAp_jI
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55sBYZuIHbE

Thanks as always Lia.

Loving Aki's cheeky wink to Yusei

Not loving the noise in the cinema. Is this common in America or is it just because it's full of over exitable fans? If there was that level of noise when I went to see it I would be truly hacked off. My only experience of watching films in the US was many years ago when I watched Hitch in New York. At the end of the film the audience stood up and started cheering and clapping which I thought was bizarre (anyone would have thought Will Smith was there himself!!). Thankfully I'm a reserved Brit who would only tut quietly to herself instead of saying anything!!

Oh, and it was a bit too fast to see, but it looks like the second clip shows Judai doing his Jonouchi face at about 0.12 in.

[Tri_Horned_Dragon]

Not loving the noise in the cinema. Is this common in America or is it just because it's full of over exitable fans? If there was that level of noise when I went to see it I would be truly hacked off.

You didn't watch Twilight in a cinema then...

Fangirls: Take off your shirt... TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRT!!! OMG!!! HE TOOK OFF HIS SHIRT!!!

but who can blame them? I could do the same in the YGO movie

Me: Discard to Kuriboh... DISCARD TO KURIBOH!!! OMG!!! HE DISCARDED TO KURIBOH!!!

[darkinfernal]

Hope you guys like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hkvBLWSAI

[Heather]

You didn't watch Twilight in a cinema then...

I did actually, all three to be precise and not a peep out of anyone. Obviously the British way I guess.

Now if Manjoume were in the film I may have acted differently but since he's not, no screaming from me.

[Lia]

Hope you guys like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hkvBLWSAI

Thanks again. Appreciated. There are several scenes (especially from the very beginning) we haven't seen till now.

[renders]

Hope you guys like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hkvBLWSAI

thank you sir...i liked that intro it was pretty nostalgic

[Lia]

Too bad the parting scene wasn't from the secretly filmed parts. But well...I'm still pleased with what we had till now. I doubt there will be more camrips though. We'll be left to wait for the DVD from now on.

[Heather]

Hope you guys like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hkvBLWSAI

I liked it a lot! Thanks ever so much. Wow! It's so cool to see Yugi and Atem drawn using the latest animation techniques, they look fantastic!!

[Palooza]

I liked it a lot! Thanks ever so much. Wow! It's so cool to see Yugi and Atem drawn using the latest animation techniques, they look fantastic!!

Latest techniques? O_o

[Heather]

Latest techniques? O_o

It is compared to what was available in the days of DM.

[Lia]

Kagami has done his best work up to now. I haven't seen such wonderful art since the time of DM's OP/ED 5. Every single movement and gesture are literally polished up to perfection and all the characters have really beautiful faces and bodies. I know he's famous for his FABULOUS HANDS , but there is one detail which I like even more - THE FABULOUS LIPS. if you take a closer look you will understand what I mean. This outlined-lips effect isn't visible everywhere. It can mainly be seen when we have a close-up of the character's face. But when it's discernible - I'm truly like thrown into ecstasies. X)

[Palooza]

It is compared to what was available in the days of DM.

I don't think it's really a change in technique or process, just that they happened to get -very- talented animators working on the movie this time around who know how to use those techniques best. 2-D animation today is still a long and tedious process with even the knowledge of the best way to do it, like how it was way back in the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc.

[Heather]

I don't think it's really a change in technique or process, just that they happened to get -very- talented animators working on the movie this time around who know how to use those techniques best. 2-D animation today is still a long and tedious process with even the knowledge of the best way to do it, like how it was way back in the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc.

My mistake then. I actually thought most of it was done digitally by computers nowadays and would have been more hand done back in the day. I actually know nothing about animation and it obviously shows. Yugi and Atem do look wonderful though.

And Lia, I know exactly what you mean. I don't think they have ever looked so good . Yugi even looks that bit older to me too, just fantastic.

[Palooza]

My mistake then. I actually thought most of it was done digitally by computers nowadays and would have been more hand done back in the day. I actually know nothing about animation and it obviously shows. Yugi and Atem do look wonderful though.

And Lia, I know exactly what you mean. I don't think they have ever looked so good . Yugi even looks that bit older to me too, just fantastic.

Yes, they do look just beautiful, along with everyone else. @_@ Kagami, thank you for existing.

An animator can have the fanciest computers and software, but it doesn't mean poo if he/she can't draw competently (lol Mitsuru <3). Thankfully, they got animators who know how to do their job, and well.

[Lia]

And Lia, I know exactly what you mean. I don't think they have ever looked so good . Yugi even looks that bit older to me too, just fantastic.

Yup, he's definitely drawn older. And I actually like it. That's why Dan Green had to change his voice intonation a little.
EDIT: New short video uploaded 10 hours ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B5uZ7hqs7E

[NeoArkadia]

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/-/2466/1...archtype=genre

Oh look. May 30th, dears.

[YaminoRPG]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
It's on sodding blue ray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I won't buy blue ray as hd doesn't work for me. Please for the love of god put it on dvd also.

Angry and frustrated

[Heather]

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/-/2466/1...archtype=genre

Oh look. May 30th, dears.

Eeek!! How exciting. I hope to god they're not leaving that DVD cover though

@YaminoRPG http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/19101...rlrefer=search Don't Panic

Mine ordered already!!

[NeoArkadia]

Also much thanks to PDUTogepi for pointing this out to me. While it's only confirmation for England/Europe at the moment, I expect we'll see an American release at some point. (Unless this is due to a difference in 4kids' UK and US distributors...)

[Lia]

Seeing it'll be BlueRay, DARKMASTER will be very pleased. xD It's his long lost dream. 8D As for me - I just wana watch it in HQ (and have it on my PC ) already, so don't care if it'll be DVD or BlueRay, although I know which one is with the highest quality. xD

[magicneos]

The cover is horrible. I hope the Japanese will not take long to come out. The japaneses must be rabid. That DVD takes longer than a year and also go out earlier in USA / EU than in Japan ... Definitely, if I were japanese, would be angry.

[63cohen]

Don't know if I should buy tha one or wait till an American one is announced, as the fanpage suggests

[Heather]

Don't know if I should buy tha one or wait till an American one is announced, as the fanpage suggests

It's a while until it comes out so why don't you pre-order it and then cancel the order when the American one is announced? That way you should get one of the first copies if they don't announce the American ones (though I can't imagine that will actually happen).

[SurtKyo]

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/-/2466/1...archtype=genre

Oh look. May 30th, dears.

Oh yeah, I'm just hoping that the Voice Actor of Yusei won't dare to say the same things that I heard in the French Version... And I'm wondering how will be Paradox. Thank you for the link =)

[Lia]

The cover is horrible.

They definitely should've done the easiest thing - at least use the poster art. It wouldn't be something inovative, but at least it'd be better than these so old stock pics we know for nearly 10 years already.